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A85382 The apologist condemned: or, A vindication of the Thirty queries (together with their author) concerning the power of the civil magistrate in matters of religion. By way of answer to a scurrilous pamphlet, published (as it seems) by some poposalist, under the mock-title of An apologie for Mr John Goodwin. Together with a brief touch upon another pamphlet, intituled, Mr J. Goodwin's queries questioned. By the author of the said Thirty queries. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1653 (1653) Wing G1148; Thomason E691_16; ESTC R202305 21,381 34

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Thou hast a Devil say they who goeth about to kill thee b as if they had been the most innocent persons under Heaven in respect of any such vile and bloody intentions and He a person of a Diabolical spirit to lay any such thing to their charge Yet we know they were never the more innocent but the more guilty rather for their peremptory and high rejection of their Charge nor he at all guilty or blame-worthy for charging them notwithstanding their deep offence and exulceration of spirit thereat Most certain it is that all the water in the Sea will not wash the heads whatever it may the hearts of the men I now speak of from the guilt and crime of writing and speaking impiously of the Nature of God They may Proteus-like turn themselves their tongues and pens into twenty several shapes and ten of shifts evasions pretences provisions and what not but all their washings will not make the Blackamore white all their wrestings and wringings it this way and that notwithstanding Haeret lateri laetalis arundo The deadly arrow still sticks fast in their sides Concerning the Testimonies both of Gentiles and Jews for it seems he layeth his hands across upon the heads of his two Compurgators placing the Gentiles at his right hand and the Jews at his left wherewith he concludes his worthy Apology first he giveth instance in the first founding of Rome bonis avibus for good success sake telling us that Romulus and Numa Pompilius the first Kings layd the Foundations of their Law-making in Piety and Justice and that of Romulus it is particularly said that before all things he began with the Divine Worship c. I marvel to what account these Instances turn for his purpose Do they not rather prove that Kings and Magistrates and Rulers of the Earth have more generally an itching humor and love to be tampering in matters of Religion and Divine Worship and to have Religions and Worships of their own calculation and contrivance how blind or insufficient soever they be for the managing or regulating such an affair then that they have any regular Interest or right of Power to intermeddle therein Or doth the Apologist intend to commend the examples of Romulus and Numa Pompilius in setting up what Religion and what Divine Worship they thought best amongst their people unto the Christian Magistrate for his imitation or encouragement Certainly that Religion and kind of Worship which these Kings set up in their dominions was not taught them by the Law of Nature unless it be supposed that the one was the true Religion and the other the true Worship For the Law of Nature teacheth no man any false Religion or false Worship much less doth it teach any man to compel others to submit either to the one or the other Therefore the Gentleman is no Debtor unto the Gentiles for any contribution from them towards his cause For what he cites from Mr Selden's Book De Jure Naturae c. about the Opinion of the Jews concerning the Light of Nature condemning Idolatry making Laws against it c. not having the Book by me nor leasure at present to enquire after it I cannot examine the truth of his citations But whereas he attempts to overawe me with Mr Selden's learning and judgment saying that perchance Mr Goodwin will think fit to comply with them rather then to contest I freely and clearly say that I am most ready to comply with the learning and judgment of a man by many degrees inferior to Mr Selden in the honour which belongeth unto Learning who shall teach me that which I am able to comprehend or to conceive at least as probable but otherwise Angels from Heaven and Scarabees or Beetles from the dunghill are Teachers alike unto me unless the light of Reason sheweth me a difference between them I have no more Faith for the teachings of the one then of the other Were Mr Selden Socrates and my Apologist Plato I must commend them but not forsake my ancient and fast Friend Truth for their sakes But touching the Jews in a word 1. By the course and current of the Scriptures it appears that they were no Great Students in the Law of Nature neither had they the like occasion or necessity which other Nations had to engage themselves much in this study For they from their great Progenitor and Founder of their Nation Abraham were discipled and trained up to a religious and holy Conversation by Miracles Signs and Wonders by extraordinary Appearances of God by literal and express Revelations and Discoveries from Heaven of the Mind and Will of God concerning them Behold saith Moses to this people I have taught you Statutes and Judgments even as the Lord my God commanded me that ye should do so in the Land whither ye go to possess it Keep therefore and do them for this is your wisdom and understanding in the sight of the Nations which shall hear all these Statutes and say Surely this great Nation is a wise and understanding people For what Nation is there so great who hath God so nigh unto them c c. Therefore this Nation having God so nigh unto them as it follows to instruct and teach them all things that were needful for them either to know or practise had no occasion to pore much on the Book of Nature nor to seek that by labour and travel which was brought unto them in such abundance by the immediate hand of God himself Whilest they were dayly fed with Manna from Heaven ploughing and sowing had been but lost labour The case was otherwise with the rest of the Nations on the Earth 2. And with more particularity to what the Apologist alledgeth concerning the Jews their making Laws against Idolatry and false Worship What occasion or necessity can it be imagined they should have to interpose their Laws or Constitutions Laws I mean of their own framing and enditing by the Light of Nature against or about Idolatry and false Worship when as they had so many particular full and express Laws touching matters of this nature delivered unto them by God himself Nay 3. They had not only no occasion or necessity upon them to trouble themselves with making Laws against Idolatry and false Worship being so plentifully in this kind provided for by God himself but they were restrained by an express Law given unto them in that behalf by God from setting their threshold by his I mean from super-adding any Laws of their own unto those which he had delivered unto them Ye shall NOT ADD unto the Word which I command you neither shall ye diminish ought from it that you may keep the Commandments of the Lord your God d And again What thing soever I command you observe to do it thou shalt NOT ADD thereto nor diminish from it e Doubtless though my Apologist judgeth the Laws against Idolatry and false Worship delivered by God unto the Jews to