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such_o a_o stumbling-block_n in_o the_o way_n he_o think_v it_o expedient_a to_o make_v bold_a with_o his_o author_n and_o abuse_v they_o than_o by_o tell_v truth_n undeceive_v his_o reader_n this_o may_v be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n but_o to_o give_v mr._n d._n full_a satisfaction_n i_o shall_v make_v a_o more_o particular_a inquiry_n into_o this_o business_n and_o as_o for_o guitmundus_n the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o ait_fw-fr eum_fw-la beringarium_fw-la de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la infan_n &_o de_fw-la conjugio_fw-la non_fw-la recte_fw-la docuisse_fw-la which_o prove_v he_o as_o much_o against_o marriage_n as_o against_o infant-baptism_n but_o bp._n usher_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o book_n the_o successione_n cap._n 7._o §_o 37._o that_o deoduinas_n leodiensis_n take_v it_o upon_o common_a fame_n that_o bruno_n and_o beringarius_n do_v quantum_fw-la in_o ipsis_fw-la erat_fw-la baptismum_fw-la parvulorum_fw-la evertere_fw-la and_o add_v deinde_fw-la ex_fw-la leodiensis_fw-la fide_fw-la 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