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A12284 A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1623 (1623) STC 226; ESTC S100100 65,025 70

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they_o have_v no_o need_n before_o ●h●ir_n fall_v neither_o have_v they_o any_o promise_n of_o it_o till_o they_o be_v dead_a in_o si●_n gen._n 3_o it_o be_v this_o save_a grace_n in_o christ_n from_o which_o the_o elect_a can_v never_o utter_o fall_v and_o not_o any_o other_o grace_n by_o creation_n from_o whi●h_a all_o man_n and_o some_o angel_n have_v fall_v 3_o if_o the_o elect_v can_v fall_v from_o their_o election_n then_o have_v not_o all_o sin_v and_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n and_o shut_v up_o in_o unbelief_n etc._n etc._n answ._n the_o same_o sophistry_n be_v in_o this_o reason_n that_o be_v in_o the_o former_a change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n which_o be_v only_o of_o they_o that_o in_o christ_n be_v choose_v before_o the_o world_n be_v and_o be_v by_o he_o redeem_v justify_v sanctify_a and_o shall_v have_v eternal_a life_n joh._n 10.28_o whereas_o these_o deceiver_n speak_v of_o man_n without_o christ_n and_o before_o they_o be_v by_o he_o 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fall_v into_o damnation_n answ._n herein_o they_o abuse_v god_n comfortable_a promise_n as_o if_o man_n shall_v continue_v in_o sin_n that_o grace_n may_v abound_v far_o be_v it_o all_o man_n ought_v to_o fear_v fall_v into_o any_o sin_n and_o the_o elect_a fear_n continual_o know_v their_o own_o frailty_n our_o spiritual_a security_n be_v not_o carnal_a security_n our_o faith_n be_v in_o god_n not_o in_o ourselves_o by_o his_o power_n we_o be_v keep_v not_o by_o our_o own_o he_o say_v to_o his_o people_n the_o mountain_n shall_v depart_v and_o the_o hill_n be_v remove_v but_o my_o kindness_n shall_v not_o depart_v from_o thou_o neither_o shall_v the_o covenant_n of_o my_o peace_n be_v remove_v esai_n 54.10_o but_o if_o by_o fear_n they_o mean_v fear_n without_o faith_n that_o be_v despair_v we_o believe_v that_o the_o elect_v though_o they_o fall_v into_o such_o sin_n ought_v not_o to_o despair_v or_o distrust_n god_n mercy_n as_o the_o example_n of_o david_n peter_n &c_n &c_n which_o they_o allege_v do_v evident_o confirm_v psal._n 51._o luke_n 22.31.32_o 6_o if_o no_o man_n elect_v can_v fall_v from_o his_o election_n by_o commit_v of_o any_o of_o these_o sin_n then_o to_o what_o end_n be_v repentance_n teach_v it_o be_v in_o vain_a if_o they_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v in_o condemnation_n etc._n etc._n answ._n they_o that_o teach_v such_o doctrine_n their_o religion_n be_v vain_a we_o believe_v as_o the_o elect_a can_v perish_v so_o neither_o can_v they_o continue_v in_o sin_n he_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o god_n say_v the_o apostle_n commit_v not_o sin_n 1_o joh._n 3.9_o all_o that_o true_o believe_v that_o they_o be_v elect_v do_v also_o believe_v and_o know_v that_o by_o repentance_n faith_n and_o abide_v in_o christ_n they_o must_v come_v to_o the_o end_n of_o their_o election_n the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n this_o be_v the_o way_n and_o mean_n unto_o life_n and_o without_o this_o they_o can_v see_v god_n 7_o to_o what_o end_n be_v man_n admonish_v or_o exhort_v not_o to_o receive_v the_o grace_n of_o god_n in_o vain_a 2_o cor._n 6.1_o not_o to_o fall_v from_o their_o steadfastness_n 2_o pet._n 3.17_o etc._n etc._n if_o they_o can_v fall_v into_o they_o do_v the_o lord_n use_v word_n in_o vain_a answ._n no_o but_o these_o man_n word_n be_v vain_a for_o god_n as_o he_o have_v ordain_v man_n to_o life_n have_v also_o ordain_v his_o law_n exhortation_n threaten_n &c._n &c._n as_o mean_n to_o bring_v they_o into_o life_n he_o deal_v not_o with_o man_n as_o with_o stone_n to_o carry_v they_o into_o heaven_n by_o violence_n but_o give_v they_o repentance_n faith_n love_n zeal_n care_n and_o other_o grace_n he_o persuade_v move_v draw_v they_o to_o come_v willing_o and_o to_o continue_v careful_o and_o so_o at_o last_o save_v they_o in_o the_o next_o place_n these_o faller_n from_o grace_n seek_v to_o wrest_v the_o scripture_n which_o refute_v their_o heresy_n 84._o unto_o christ_n word_n in_o mat._n 24.24_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a they_o shall_v deceive_v the_o very_a elect_a they_o answer_v that_o the_o elect_v namely_o those_o that_o receive_v and_o obey_v the_o truth_n jesus_n christ_n and_o abide_v in_o he_o to_o the_o death_n can_v perish_v answ._n great_a be_v the_o truth_n that_o force_v the_o adversary_n to_o yield_v this_o be_v that_o which_o we_o maintain_v and_o christ_n word_n if_o it_o be_v possible_a prove_v it_o undeniable_o and_o show_v it_o to_o be_v unpossible_a that_o the_o elect_v shall_v be_v deceive_v to_o loose_v christ._n obj._n our_o controversy_n be_v whether_o those_o that_o be_v elect_v may_v fall_v out_o of_o it_o and_o not_o whether_o those_o that_o abide_v in_o it_o can_v perish_v answ._n here_o they_o will_v unsay_v that_o which_o before_o they_o say_v well_o and_o the_o controversy_n they_o make_v be_v mere_a cavil_v for_o if_o it_o be_v unpossible_a that_o the_o elect_v shall_v be_v seduce_v from_o christ_n then_o be_v it_o unpossible_a they_o shall_v perish_v and_o consequent_o it_o be_v unpossible_a that_o they_o shall_v fall_v from_o their_o election_n again_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a that_o they_o shall_v fall_v from_o their_o election_n then_o be_v it_o possible_a they_o shall_v perish_v and_o possible_a that_o they_o shall_v be_v seduce_v from_o christ_n and_o so_o our_o saviour_n word_n will_v not_o stand_v how_o great_o be_v these_o deceiver_n fall_v themselves_o that_o seek_v so_o to_o pervert_v the_o plain_a word_n of_o christ._n object_n many_o fall_n from_o their_o election_n not_o by_o be_v deceive_v but_o willing_o forsake_v the_o truth_n against_o or_o after_o their_o enlighten_v heb._n 6_o 4_o etc._n etc._n and_o 10.26_o etc._n etc._n answ._n first_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o christ_n word_n in_o mat._n 24.24_o second_o the_o scripture_n which_o they_o cite_v say_v not_o nor_o do_v any_o scripture_n say_v that_o the_o elect_n may_v fall_v from_o their_o election_n either_o by_o deceit_n or_o willing_o three_o as_o god_n keep_v all_o his_o elect_a from_o be_v deceive_v from_o christ_n so_o he_o keep_v they_o from_o willing_a forsake_v of_o christ_n for_o he_o put_v his_o fear_n in_o their_o heart_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o depart_v from_o he_o jer._n 32.40_o he_o stablish_v they_o in_o christ_n and_o anoint_v they_o and_o seal_v they_o and_o give_v the_o earnest_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o their_o heart_n 2_o cor._n 1.21_o 22._o 1●_n an_o other_o sure_a proof_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o all_o god_n elect_v be_v in_o joh._n 10.3.4.5.8.14.15.27.28.29_o this_o scripture_n the_o adversary_n will_v pervert_v with_o this_o gloss_n that_o so_o long_o as_o they_o continue_v christ_n sheep_n hear_v his_o voice_n and_o follow_v he_o so_o long_o they_o be_v sure_a and_o have_v safety_n in_o god_n acceptance_n etc._n etc._n but_o if_o they_o do_v evil_a and_o will_v not_o hear_v his_o voice_n than_o he_o will_v repent_v of_o the_o good_a that_o he_o promise_v jer._n 18.10_o etc._n etc._n answ._n first_o that_o by_o sheep_n be_v mean_v god_n elect_v who_o he_o will_v save_v be_v plain_a by_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o sheep_n and_o goat_n math._n 25.33_o etc._n etc._n second_o in_o john_n 10_o christ_n use_v no_o such_o word_n so_o long_o as_o they_o continue_v so_o long_o as_o they_o hear_v his_o voice_n etc._n etc._n but_o he_o plain_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o sheep_n do_v hear_v voice_n v_o 3_o that_o they_o follow_v he_o v_o 4_o that_o they_o will_v not_o follow_v a_o stranger_n neither_o know_v they_o his_o voice_n v_o 5._o that_o the_o sheep_n do_v not_o hear_v stranger_n v_o 8_o yea_o all_o christ_n sheep_n shall_v hear_v his_o voice_n v_o 16.27_o and_o he_o give_v they_o eternal_a life_n and_o they_o shall_v never_o perish_v neither_o shall_v any_o pluck_v
psal._n 51._o second_o it_o be_v another_o abuse_n of_o scripture_n that_o they_o say_v weak_a flesh_n be_v call_v sinful_a fl●sh_n in_o which_o christ_n come_v rom._n 8.1_o where_o first_o they_o make_v david_n no_o more_o a_o sinner_n at_o his_o birth_n than_o christ_n himself_o contrary_a to_o the_o whole_a tenor_n of_o this_o psalm_n and_o contrary_a to_o rom._n 5._o as_o be_v before_o show_v then_o they_o falsify_v the_o text_n in_o rom._n 8.1.3_o for_o the_o weakness_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v in_o the_o law_n it_o be_v weak_a through_o the_o flesh_n and_o so_o not_o able_a to_o save_v sinner_n three_o by_o flesh_n there_o paul_n mean_v not_o the_o substance_n of_o flesh_n for_o that_o weaken_v not_o the_o law_n nor_o hinder_v man_n salvation_n it_o be_v the_o good_a creature_n of_o god_n as_o be_v the_o soul_n or_o spirit_n but_o he_o mean_v by_o flesh_n our_o corrupt_a sinful_a state_n in_o soul_n and_o body_n for_o he_o say_v in_o verse_n 8._o they_o that_o be_v in_o the_o flesh_n can_v please_v god_n if_o flesh_n mean_v our_o bodily_a substance_n than_o no_o man_n live_v in_o the_o body_n can_v please_v god_n not_o the_o prophet_n not_o the_o apostle_n no_o nor_o christ_n himself_o for_o he_o live_v in_o our_o flesh_n in_o our_o humame_n nature_n and_o the_o apostle_n shall_v speak_v untrue_o in_o the_o nine_o verse_n you_o be_v not_o in_o the_o fl●sh_n wherefore_o flesh_n in_o rom._n 8._o signify_v our_o unregenerate_a state_n as_o in_o genes_n 6.3_o john_n 3.6_o rom._n 7.18_o &_o 8.5.9_o four_o it_o be_v another_o falsification_n when_o they_o say_v sinful_a flesh_n in_o which_o christ_n come_v the_o scripture_n say_v not_o in_o sinful_a flesh_n but_o in_o the_o likeness_n of_o sinful_a flesh_n rom._n 8.3_o five_o weakness_n or_o infirmity_n as_o it_o mean_v not_o sin_n but_o affliction_n such_o christ_n have_v such_o the_o apostle_n take_v pleasure_n 2_o cor._n 12_o 10_o but_o infirmity_n as_o it_o mean_v sin_n christ_n have_v not_o he_o be_v oppose_v herein_o to_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o law_n which_o have_v infirmity_n or_o weakness_n heb._n 7_o 27_o 28_o and_o 4_o 15_o but_o david_n in_o psal._n 51_o confess_v such_o infirmity_n if_o they_o will_v have_v it_o so_o call_v as_o be_v sin_n and_o iniquity_n which_o prove_v he_o be_v a_o transgressor_n from_o the_o womb_n and_o not_o without_o sin_n as_o be_v christ._n 6_o christ_n be_v say_v to_o be_v make_v sin_n for_o we_o 2_o cor._n 5_o 21_o these_o word_n for_o we_o the_o adversary_n balk_v and_o omit_v david_n be_v not_o make_v sin_n for_o we_o or_o for_o any_o but_o be_v himself_o conceive_v in_o sin_n christ_n be_v himself_o no_o sinner_n yet_o be_v he_o make_v sin_n that_o be_v a_o sin-offering_n for_o we_o to_o purge_v we_o and_o make_v we_o the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n in_o he_o for_o the_o sin-offering_a be_v usual_o call_v sin_n in_o the_o law_n leu._n 4_o 3_o 8_o 14_o 20_o 24_o etc._n etc._n the_o apostle_n expound_v it_o for_o sin_n mean_v a_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n heb._n 10_o 6_o from_o psal._n 40_o thus_o christ_n be_v a_o sin_n that_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n but_o david_n be_v not_o so_o therefore_o these_o place_n speak_v not_o of_o sin_n in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o sense_n but_o in_o the_o contrary_n david_n complain_v of_o his_o own_o sin_n and_o guiltiness_n paul_n speak_v of_o christ_n his_o purge_v david_n and_o we_o all_o from_o sin_n and_o guiltiness_n by_o be_v make_v a_o sin_n offer_v for_o we_o their_o former_a answer_n be_v so_o apparent_o against_o the_o truth_n that_o david_n acknowledge_v sin_n they_o will_v have_v it_o no_o sin_n but_o weakness_n they_o devise_v to_o darken_v the_o light_n with_o a_o other_o cloud_n as_o if_o david_n speak_v not_o of_o his_o own_o estate_n but_o his_o mother_n and_o then_o say_v they_o it_o be_v the_o curse_n or_o punishment_n for_o sin_n lay_v upon_o she_o gen._n 3_o 16_o where_o the_o very_a word_n agree_v with_o these_o of_o david_n etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v frequent_a in_o scripture_n to_o call_v punishment_n for_o sin_n by_o the_o name_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v neither_o david_n sin_n nor_o his_o mother_n that_o he_o here_o confess_v to_o speak_v proper_o but_o his_o mother_n punishment_n answ._n as_o a_o bird_n in_o the_o net_n so_o the_o more_o they_o strive_v the_o more_o they_o be_v entangle_v first_o the_o whole_a scope_n of_o the_o psalm_n be_v that_o david_n may_v find_v mercy_n with_o the_o lord_n for_o his_o own_o sin_n as_o any_o that_o read_v it_o may_v see_v and_o that_o in_o supplicate_v to_o god_n for_o grace_v before_o and_o after_o he_o shall_v here_o insert_v a_o complaint_n of_o his_o mother_n punishment_n be_v without_o any_o colour_n of_o truth_n but_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n and_o suitable_a to_o his_o other_o word_n that_o lament_v his_o actual_a transgression_n he_o bewail_v the_o evil_a fountain_n whence_o they_o flow_v to_o weet_v his_o native_a corruption_n which_o bring_v forth_o these_o ugly_a trespass_n second_o to_o let_v pass_v how_o they_o call_v god_n fatherly_a chastisement_n a_o curse_n or_o punishment_n they_o here_o again_o belie_v the_o scripture_n in_o say_v that_o the_o very_a word_n in_o gen._n 3.16_o agree_v with_o these_o of_o david_n for_o neither_o the_o word_n sin_n nor_o iniquity_n both_o which_o david_n use_v in_o psa._n 51_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o gen._n 3_o 16_o that_o od●gos_n brow_n may_v seem_v to_o be_v of_o brass_n who_o sh●m●th_v not_o so_o often_o and_o open_o to_o falsify_v the_o text_n three_o it_o be_v true_a that_o sin_n and_o iniquity_n do_v often_o improper_o mean_a punishment_n but_o the_o proper_a meaning_n for_o fault_n and_o guiltiness_n be_v most_o frequent_a and_o wh●n_o it_o signify_v punishment_n the_o context_n manifest_v which_o it_o do_v not_o here_o at_o all_o but_o david_n before_o and_o after_o bewail_v his_o sin_n proper_o neither_o be_v here_o the_o phrase_n of_o bear_v sin_n and_o iniquity_n which_o be_v m●st_o usual_a when_o punishment_n be_v mean_v but_o of_o be_v bring_v forth_o in_o iniquity_n and_o conceive_v in_o sin_n and_o they_o sh●w_v not_o a●y_o o●e_a place_n of_o scripture_n where_o such_o a_o phrase_n signify_v punishment_n four_o as_o neither_o sin_n nor_o iniquity_n be_v use_v in_o gen._n 3_o 16_o so_o the_o word_n conception_n there_o agree_v not_o but_o differ_v from_o the_o conceive_n that_o david_n speak_v of_o in_o psal_n 51_o and_o the_o difference_n of_o the_o word_n plain_o discover_v these_o man_n ignorance_n and_o error_n for_o in_o gen._n 3_o 16_o seron_n be_v conception_n with_o sorrow_n during_o the_o time_n that_o the_o mother_n go_v with_o child_n but_o in_o psal._n 51._o jacham_n signify_v conceive_v with_o pleasure_n for_o the_o word_n proper_o signify_v to_o be_v warm_a or_o inflame_v with_o desire_n as_o in_o the_o act_n of_o generation_n not_o of_o man_n only_o but_o of_o cattle_n also_o as_o in_o gen._n 30_o 38_o 39_o 41._o now_o nature_n both_o of_o man_n and_o beast_n teach_v all_o that_o such_o conceive_n be_v with_o delight_n not_o with_o pain_n and_o therefore_o david_n use_v such_o a_o word_n when_o he_o tell_v how_o his_o mother_n conceive_v he_o can_v in_o any_o reasonable_a man_n understanding_n mean_v his_o mother_n corporal_a pain_n or_o punishment_n as_o these_o corrupter_n of_o the_o scripture_n do_v feign_v they_o proceed_v and_o say_v that_o david_n do_v not_o sin_n in_o be_v conceive_v and_o bear_v 120._o the_o soul_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o sin_n for_o from_o the_o soul_n or_o heart_n come_v wickedness_n mat._n 15_o 19_o the_o soul_n come_v from_o god_n the_o matter_n of_o the_o body_n from_o the_o parent_n the_o soul_n be_v very_o good_a come_n from_o god_n the_o body_n have_v not_o sin_v till_o it_o be_v infect_v with_o the_o soul_n by_o transgression_n of_o a_o law_n and_o see_v th●y_o affirm_v that_o the_o very_a matter_n or_o substance_n whereof_o david_n be_v make_v be_v sin_n and_o that_o this_o be_v it_o he_o confessoth_o in_o psal._n 51_o observe_v what_o will_v follow_v ●f_o this_o their_o dream_n the_o matter_n whereof_o all_o th●_n son_n of_o adam_n be_v make_v be_v sin_n but_o chr●st_n one_o of_o the_o son_n of_o adam_n after_o the_o fl●sh_n be_v make_v of_o that_o matter_n therefore_o the_o matter_n or_o substance_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v sin_n 121._o if_o it_o be_v wicked_a to_o say_v christ_n be_v a_o sinner_n because_o he_o be_v conceive_v of_o his_o mother_n substance_n as_o it_o be_v so_o it_o be_v no_o less_o wicked_a to_o say_v david_n be_v a_o sinner_n because_o he_o be_v conceive_v of_o his_o mother_n substance_n see_v the_o substance_n of_o both_o the_o mother_n