Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	good_a	lord_n	people_n	4,014	5	4.8063	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A55393	Quo warranto, or, A moderate enquiry into the warrantablenesse of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons where also some other questions are discussed : viz. concerning [brace] ministerial relation, election, ordination : being a vindication of the late Jus divinum ministerii evangeliei ... from the exceptions of Mr. John Martin, Mr. Sam. Pette, Mr. Frederick Woodal ... in their late book, intituled The preacher sent / by Matthew Poole ...	Poole, Matthew, 1624-1679.	1659 (1659)	Wing P2850; ESTC R33938	110,108	175

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they_o judge_v of_o thing_n by_o appearance_n and_o not_o according_a to_o truth_n that_o those_o way_n and_o doctrine_n which_o be_v most_o specious_a in_o show_n which_o seem_o look_v most_o to_o the_o promotion_n of_o god_n honour_n the_o advancement_n of_o holiness_n and_o the_o liberty_n of_o god_n people_n be_v most_o take_v with_o many_o of_o that_o sort_n of_o person_n who_o have_v a_o due_a sense_n of_o those_o excellent_a thing_n upon_o their_o spirit_n and_o such_o a_o opinion_n i_o take_v this_o to_o be_v which_o be_v the_o principal_a subject_n of_o this_o follow_a treatise_n which_o be_v assert_v by_o our_o brethren_n viz._n that_o gift_a person_n may_v preach_v public_o a_o opinion_n wherein_o there_o be_v a_o double_a compliance_n with_o the_o apprehension_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n whereby_o it_o get_v entertainment_n among_o they_o either_o because_o it_o give_v a_o opportunity_n for_o the_o declaration_n and_o demonstration_n of_o a_o man_n ability_n to_o other_o 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