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A40738 The worlds honour detected, and, for the unprofitableness thereof, rejected, and the honour which comes from God alone, asserted, and reduced to practice, or, Some reasons why the people of God called Quakers, do deny the accustomary honour and salutations of the world ... by a friend to truth, who is no respector or regarder of persons, called a Quaker, B.F. Furly, Benjamin, 1636-1714. 1663 (1663) Wing F2541; ESTC R8091 54,243 70

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upon_o any_o occasion_n nay_o either_o his_o hand_n or_o his_o clothes_n be_v too_o fine_a to_o stoop_v to_o it_o and_o to_o give_v they_o the_o upper_a hand_n as_o they_o term_v it_o oh_o nay_o that_o will_v not_o be_v seemly_a yea_o be_v they_o not_o general_o rather_o ashamed_a to_o pass_v along_o the_o street_n with_o one_o in_o a_o mean_a habit_n unless_o he_o be_v on_o the_o low_a hand_n so_o call_v or_o with_o his_o hat_n in_o his_o hand_n a-loof_a off_o at_o a_o distance_n as_o if_o he_o be_v make_v of_o some_o courser_n nature_n or_o more_o ignoble_a matter_n and_o if_o peradventure_o some_o mean_a man_n who_o see_v through_o the_o pitiful_a hood_n of_o lordship_n sir_n john_n hood_n worship_n mastership_n and_o such_o like_a gay_a title_n shall_v meet_v such_o a_o one_o pass_v by_o he_o and_o his_o gugaw_n without_o the_o observance_n of_o give_v he_o the_o wall_n cap_n or_o knee_n more_o than_o to_o another_o mean_a person_n then_o ofttimes_o cain_n appear_v in_o wrath_n and_o fury_n shimei_n in_o rail_v and_o revile_v or_o ishmael_n in_o scoff_v and_o these_o be_v thy_o manner_n nay_o thy_o good_a manner_n so_o call_v o_o christendom_n be_v these_o the_o badge_n of_o thy_o humility_n away_o with_o they_o they_o stink_v in_o the_o nostril_n of_o the_o lord_n but_o as_o concern_v the_o offence_n pretend_v we_o in_o sincerity_n say_v we_o will_v not_o willing_o give_v offence_n to_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v good_a or_o any_o thing_n of_o god_n in_o any_o man_n how_o weak_a mean_a or_o low_o soever_o but_o rather_o do_v desire_n that_o all_o man_n may_v come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o to_o walk_v in_o the_o light_n thereof_o in_o which_o there_o be_v no_o occasion_n of_o stumble_v nor_o offence_n but_o there_o be_v that_o do_v on_o the_o one_o hand_n make_v conscience_n of_o that_o which_o to_o do_v be_v not_o sin_n and_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n make_v no_o conscience_n or_o scruple_n to_o do_v that_o which_o be_v sin_n as_o the_o papist_n in_o abstain_v from_o meat_n at_o certain_a season_n by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n forbid_v and_o again_o in_o worship_v bread_n and_o wine_n and_o honour_v image_n of_o wood_n and_o stone_n etc._n etc._n by_o doff_v their_o hat_n bow_v and_o cringe_v to_o they_o etc._n etc._n the_o very_a action_n here_o in_o question_n and_o so_o zealous_a they_o be_v for_o these_o thing_n that_o they_o be_v possess_v with_o a_o certain_a bitterness_n where_o they_o may_v show_v it_o with_o authority_n against_o such_o as_o conform_v not_o to_o they_o will_v you_o now_o say_v that_o we_o must_v abstain_v from_o the_o one_o and_o do_v the_o other_o to_o avoid_v give_v they_o offence_n if_o yea_o then_o why_o do_v you_o not_o so_o yourselves_o but_o call_v that_o superstition_n and_o this_o idolatry_n if_o not_o then_o why_o shall_v we_o be_v more_o conformable_a to_o your_o custom_n to_o avoid_v give_v you_o offence_n than_o you_o be_v to_o they_o upon_o the_o same_o account_n be_v you_o not_o as_o great_a or_o a_o great_a offence_n to_o they_o than_o we_o be_v to_o you_o see_v they_o be_v offend_v upon_o a_o certain_a religious_a or_o conscientious_a and_o you_o but_o upon_o a_o pettish_a pevish_a wilful_a account_n object_n it_o be_v further_a object_v it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o country_n where_o you_o dwell_v answ._n and_o what_o then_o it_o be_v also_o the_o custom_n of_o most_o country_n and_o of_o most_o man_n in_o most_o country_n to_o lie_v cheat_n cousin_n curse_v swear_v steal_v be_v drink_v live_v in_o fornication_n adultery_n wantonness_n or_o spend_v their_o time_n in_o the_o one_o or_o other_o vanity_n more_o than_o in_o serve_v or_o fear_v the_o live_a god_n and_o therefore_o say_v the_o scripture_n the_o custom_n of_o the_o people_n be_v vain_a must_v we_o then_o be_v subject_a to_o their_o custom_n if_o you_o say_v you_o do_v not_o mean_v so_o than_o i_o say_v this_o plea_n of_o custom_n be_v vain_a object_n but_o these_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o wicked_a only_o in_o all_o nation_n which_o though_o they_o be_v the_o most_o or_o great_a part_n of_o nation_n yet_o good_a custom_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o better_a part_n though_o the_o small_a for_o we_o must_v not_o follow_v a_o multitude_n to_o do_v evil_a but_o this_o be_v the_o practice_n or_o custom_n not_o of_o the_o wicked_a only_o but_o also_o of_o the_o sober_a godly_a and_o wise_a unless_o you_o think_v there_o be_v none_o such_o but_o yourselves_o answ._n this_o be_v but_o what_o the_o papist_n say_v still_o to_o yourselves_o no_o better_a payment_n for_o they_o also_o say_v unto_o you_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o our_o country_n and_o cum_fw-la fueris_fw-la romae_fw-la romano_n vivit●_n more_o when_o you_o be_v at_o rome_n you_o must_v do_v as_o they_o do_v there_o and_o why_o can_v you_o not_o say_v they_o you_o be_v strange_a fanatic_n what_o be_v you_o alone_o wise_a alone_o godly_a alone_o conscientious_a have_v you_o more_o holiness_n and_o conscience_n then_o all_o your_o and_o our_o forefather_n more_o understanding_n than_o all_o the_o learned_a man_n among_o we_o at_o present_a or_o that_o for_o many_o hundred_o year_n past_a have_v be_v none_o of_o which_o ever_o doubt_v of_o these_o thing_n object_n another_o argument_n be_v the_o magistrate_n command_v it_o and_o you_o must_v obey_v the_o magistrate_n let_v every_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o high_a power_n etc._n etc._n answ._n the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o the_o high_a power_n unto_o which_o the_o soul_n be_v to_o be_v subject_n but_o the_o power_n unto_o which_o the_o soul_n both_o of_o the_o magistrate_n as_o well_o as_o the_o subject_a be_v to_o be_v subject_a unto_o be_v the_o power_n of_o god_n from_o whence_o the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n come_v and_o so_o must_v be_v subject_a to_o it_o and_o the_o outward_a man_n be_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o outward_a power_n for_o conscience-sake_n which_o therefore_o can_v be_v in_o thing_n against_o or_o contrary_n to_o the_o will_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o a_o good_a conscience_n but_o the_o papist_n also_o say_v the_o same_o to_o you_o our_o magistrate_n command_v it_o etc._n etc._n but_o which_o of_o you_o can_v go_v to_o hear_v mass_n or_o reverence_n honour_n and_o worship_n image_n for_o conscience-sake_n because_o the_o magistrate_n command_v it_o or_o be_v it_o lawful_a for_o any_o of_o you_o so_o to_o do_v upon_o that_o account_n if_o you_o know_v not_o ask_v your_o priest_n object_n by_o put_v off_o their_o hat_n and_o bow_v to_o image_n block_n and_o stock_n be_v worship_v and_o that_o be_v idolatry_n but_o our_o practice_n be_v not_o so_o it_o be_v but_o a_o civil_a honour_n worship_n or_o respect_n answ._n when_o do_v ever_o idolater_n confess_v themselves_o such_o or_o acknowledge_v their_o practice_n to_o be_v idolatry_n do_v not_o the_o papist_n also_o say_v their_o practice_n be_v not_o idolatry_n sure_o yes_o for_o say_v they_o idolatry_n be_v a_o give_v the_o divine_a honour_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o to_o the_o creature_n which_o say_v they_o we_o do_v not_o to_o the_o image_n of_o the_o saint_n nay_o nor_o to_o the_o saint_n themselves_o neither_o but_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a due_a convenient_a decent_a respect_n worship_n or_o ecclesiastical_a honour_n which_o our_o holy_a mother_n the_o church_n require_v of_o we_o her_o child_n thereby_o to_o show_v forth_o the_o esteem_n and_o reverence_n which_o we_o in_o our_o heart_n do_v bear_v unto_o the_o saint_n decease_v of_o bless_a memory_n who_o be_v represent_v by_o their_o image_n and_o not_o at_o all_o do_v we_o worship_v the_o image_n itself_o which_o be_v but_o wood_n or_o stone_n etc._n etc._n as_o other_o wood_n and_o stone_n be_v only_o they_o be_v by_o our_o priest_n consecrate_a and_o set_v apart_o for_o such_o a_o use_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o in_o vain_a it_o will_v be_v for_o you_o to_o defend_v yourselves_o against_o we_o with_o the_o same_o weapon_n wherewith_o the_o papist_n defend_v their_o practice_n which_o you_o call_v idolatry_n against_o you_o for_o what_o you_o say_v for_o you_o that_o they_o do_v for_o they_o and_o whatsoever_o therefore_o you_o will_v return_v to_o they_o as_o proof_n to_o evince_v unto_o they_o that_o their_o practice_n be_v idolatry_n or_o superstition_n and_o unlawful_a that_o take_v to_o yourselves_o and_o so_o either_o go_v back_o to_o they_o or_o come_v forward_o with_o we_o out_o of_o all_o superstition_n and_o idolatry_n halt_v not_o thus_o betwixt_o two_o as_o you_o do_v so_o long_o as_o you_o continue_v in_o the_o one_o and_o condemn_v the_o other_o be_v blind_v by_o affection_n to_o your_o own_o way_n for_o the_o action_n be_v the_o same_o among_o you_o as_o they_o viz._n