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deliberate consult and propose Amendments and Alterations to our establish'd Church of England I shall only desire to know whether there are not those Dissenters now in this Kingdom against whom this Third Canon is directed for no one can believe that they all acknowledg the Church of England to be Orthodox and Apostolical for if they did there would be no ground for them to desire any Alterations nor you to grant them But we very well know that we have many Sects concluded under this Canon whom therefore by force of it we know to be excommunicated and is it your design that all these shall be brought into the Church If not all whom will you exclude By what Rules will you proceed impartially to joyn some of the Dissenters to it and to cut others off For all Sects many being Contraries cannot be comprehended under the same things Must therefore an Anarchy be set up and every one believe as he pleases Must the Presbyterian controverted Doctrines be struck out of the Articles and Doctrines of the Church and not the Anabaptist who perhaps has better grounds for his Principles Or how will you do with all Sects that deny our Doctrines to be Apostolical and Orthodox What sort of a Church must that be which must include all Opposites What Order what Doctrines must constitute that one which must consist of so many Congregations differing in both Do you not also know of many Sects that are directly struck by the Fourth Canon Are there not some against any Form of Prayers And others that count ours superstitious c What Methods therefore can be taken with both these 'T is not a bare giving up our present but all set Forms that will reconcile some and then that displeases others and so vice versâ And what necessity of condescension can there be in this Point where the giving these away is only to please the peevish Humors of those who can joyn in 'em and the giving away all to gratifie those whom they scarce will allow at other times to look like a Christian Church But all this will not do to win all neither unless they will decry the Use of the Lords Prayer with multitudes of them who think it now a Sin to use it It looks strange to some Men that those who have maintained the present Liturgy as the most perfect most advantageous and best that is or ever was in the whole Christian World should now be for the correcting it to suit it to their Humors whose very Reasons they before thought and made appear to be frivolous nay which they themselves as Occasion served or Argument prest have own'd to be so Do you know none who think not one of our Articles to be either superstitious or erroneous or something of that nature If this be the humor and opinion of some Sects which are now to be reconcil'd to the Church what Methods will you follow Must those Articles Can. 5. the design of whose framing 'em was to take away all variety of Opinions and to confirm and establish Consent in Matters of Faith Must those very Articles I say be now given away that we may all agree in 'em the better Can variety of Opinions be removed by the abolishing these Tenets which were for that end therefore enjoyned they may indeed thereby be taken away but then 't is probable that we may agree in the wrong Or will our consent in matters of Faith be the better confirmed and established when it shall be lawful to believe as you will For this it must come to or else the next Sessions at Westminster must declare that which their Fathers Forty years ago after long debate did that they believed in God c. which some will be apt to disbelive of both and then perhaps they may frame such a Religion as will not comprehend the greatest number of Dissenters still and then what good your Designs will do I know not Whatsoever course you follow I cannot see but that you 'll contradict the Judgments and Procedings of a wise King and his great Synod who thought the framing nay and the subscribing too to the truth of them was the surest Methods to take away all variety of Opinions and liked not to break the best setled and composed Church to make a Gap for any of the Sects with which that time no less labored than ours to come in at Are the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England looked upon so pleasingly by the Sectaries as not to draw those Titles of Impious Superstitious c. as in Can. 6. from them now Or rather are not those one great Eye-sore to the weak Brethren Must those therefore be given up to the insatiable importunity of such as by their weaknesses scandalize the Brethren If not what reconciliation can there be And if they must what becomes of all those famous Reasons of Decency Reverence Comliness Union Helps to Devotion c. which must then all give place to pleasure the petulant Humor of a restless unsatisfied race of Men If they must all be left indifferent to every Person to use as he shall think most fit that is most likely to create the greater Mischiefs than the determining of 'em one way or other as you may see in the Sheet cited in the Margin which I advise to the Reader for a careful perusal in most of these Matters and if they be quite taken away you 'll find the Fences of the Church so miserably broke as able to let in all even her very worst Enemies to the officiating in her and then what sort of strength they 'll be to that Church whose Doctrines may be disbelieved or decried by them you may either imagin or see in the aforesaid Letter In the Two next Canons I expect the least alterations or oppositions from you for there will scarce be sound among you unless it be them whose Worth debars from a Bishoprick Demerit now being the sure Promoter that will so far oppose your own Interests as either to deny the Validity of your Orders tho one of you is shrewdly suspected of inability to prove his being Christned and then consequently or condemn the Disciplines and Government of the Church by Bishops Deans c. Were Self denial in practice now I might be tempted to suspect your warping from these Rules But since desire of Power Authority and Interest have got the ascendant over Christian Virtues I imagin these may pass uncorrected by you But then how will they satisfie many of the Dissenters who cannot comply with them these things not being Scoticiz'd Will they be rul'd by that manner of Government which they suppose Antichristian and Impious Or if not must they have another then for themselves And must the same Church then be rul'd by many different contrary Governments Must the Presbyter have a distinct supreme Government and the Bishop another Must the Independent have a third and yet all pleased whilst the