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A43922 The History of the divorce of Henry VIII and Katharine of Arragon with the defence of Sanders : the resutation of the two first books of the history of the reformation of Dr. Burnett, by Joachim le Grand : with Dr. Burnett's answer and vindication of himself. 1688 (1688) Wing H2157; ESTC R12003 14,763 16

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says nothing of what the Pope promised Cardinal Tournon That for Forms Sake he should be obliged to observe some Formalities of Action to the End he might not shew himself too partial to the King of England in favour of whom he was resolved to do what lay in his Power for the Love of you said the Prelate writing to the King of France And a little after I think I am well assured that our Holy Father will comply with you touching the Request which you have made him in Behalf of your said Brother Henry VIII In a Letter of the Seventeenth of August 1533. The same Cardinal writes to Francis I. That the greatest Party of the Cardinals that were of the Imperial Faction would have been mad with the Pope had he not done what he did in regard there was but little likelyhood that the King would submit his Cause and that the Pope might have some honourable Pretence to act for him he would do it with as good a Will as was possible And it may be adds this Minister when you meet together he speaks of the Interview that was to be at Marseilles there will be found out Expedients It appears also by another Letter that Francis I. told the English Embassador That the Pope himself had confessed that King Henry 's Cause was just and that he wanted nothing but a Procuration Therefore it was that when the King was cited to appear at Rome in Person or by a Proctor he took little Notice of it That if Carn were sent beyond the Mountains in the Quality of an Excuser it was seen by those Mixtures that it was not in the Name of the King but in the Nation 's Behalf that he went to make those kind of Excuses This Refusal of Henry being look'd upon at Rome as an effect of Contempt which he had of the Holy See the Pope promised him the Divorce if he would but appear in that City either in Person or by his Proctor in pursuance of the Assignation which he had caused to be given him and acknowledge his Authority Francis the First applauded the King's Conduct in that Affair and was so far from endeavouring to oppose his Marriage that he ordered his Embassador to be God-Father in his Name to the Child that should be born in case it were a Son The French Embassador at Rome about that time wrote also several Letters to his Master's Court where he observes That the Pope was very ready to do what was desired in the King of England 's behalf and more if he durst or could but that the Emperors People pressed the Affair with so much Importunity that the half of the time His Holiness against God and against Reason nay contrary to the Opinion of a good part of the Imperial Cardinals was constrained above half the time to act at the pleasure of M. Dosme We wanted you there to have put a spoak in his Wheel pursues he writing to the Cardinal of Grandemont There is no Man that dares tell him the Truth And it is as true that this Embassador who was Bishop of Auxerres said also speaking to the Pope That he saw him so pressed by the Emperor his People and the greatest part of the Cardinals that he thought he could do no good but only by Dissimulation But indeed these cunning Politicians understand so well how to change their Stile according to Occurrences that there 's hardly any trust to be given to their Letters The same Day that he wrote what we have cited to the Pope's Legate in another Letter to the Grand Master he observes that the Pope had told him that for Four Years the Business of Henry VIII had been in his Hands that there was nothing effected as yet that if he might do what he would he would do what we would and says the Minister This he told me in such a manner that if I am not deceived he thought what he spoke All those Letters were dated the 17. of Feb. 1532. But in another of the 13. of Jan. following he assures that the Pope had told him That he was resolved to referr the whole Business to a good Time and that he clearly understood what the Pope meant by a good Time To which he adds that if the Matter had been judged according to the Wishes of the Cardinals and the eager Instances of the Emperor's People the most ancient and learned had judged for the King of England But that there were but few of that Company and the number of the other was so great that by plurality of voices the English would have utterly lost it M. Le Grand is very nice and tender when he comes to that Circumstance that there arriv'd a Courrier from England to Rome a day or two after Sentence was given and he omits the hast in which it was pronounced as if he knew nothing of it Nevertheless we find in these Miscellanies a Letter from Pomponio Trivulci dated from Lyons the 16. of April where he observes that M. de Paris passing that way upon his return from Rome told him that the definitive Sentence which the Pope had given against the King of England had been precipitated That it was not the Pope's fault that they did not temporize longer that if they had staid but Six Days more before they had pronounced it the King would have submitted to the Holy See But that the Importunity of the Imperalists and the Consistory was so great that they would not stay That the next Day after the Resolution of England came too late but that then the Consistory and the Imperalists were mad that they staid no longer All these passages plainly shew that the Court of Rome was governed in this Affair only by the prospects and maxims of Policy And therefore it is that according to the Principles of the Gallican Church M. Talon has maintained with so much Zeal upon an occasion of much less importance that the King of England had no reason to have any regard to the Sentences and Thundrings of that Court. If I am extreamly obliged to M. Le Grand for having made me a present of so good a Book in which he furnish'd me with so many proofs of the most important Points of my History I am no less troubled that he had so little value for himself as to suppress them and for his having forced me as I may so say to make use of the kindness he has done me to his own disadvantage But upon such occasions as these the saying is Magis amica veritas And though M. Le Grand imagines that I am jealous of my Productions were not the Interests of Religion intermixed therewith I could easily abandon mine But I will not now push this censure any farther neither do I know whether I shall write any more upon this Subject not being able to determine any thing in that matter till I have seen the Three other parts of this work and the effects it will produce in the World I shall conclude with humble request to pardon the Liberty which I take of addressing this Letter to you and that in so publick a manner not believing a man could otherwise so properly give a censure upon a printed Book I am Sir c. Hague 20. of June FINIS