Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	ghost_n	holy_a	know_v	4,670	5	4.0762	3	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A13773	Positions lately held by the L. Du Perron, Bishop of Eureux, against the sufficiency and perfection of the scriptures maintaning the necessitie and authoritie of vnwritten traditions. Verie learnedly answered and confuted by D. Daniell Tillenus, Professor of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Sedan. VVith a defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scriptures by the same author. Faithfully translated.	Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633.; Du Perron, Jacques Davy, 1556-1618. Discours sur l'autorité.; Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633. Defence of the sufficiency and perfection of the holy scripture. aut	1606 (1606)	STC 24071; ESTC S101997	143,995	256

father_n that_o he_o will_v send_v he_o i_o will_v pray_v say_v he_o unto_o the_o father_n and_o he_o shall_v send_v you_o another_o comforter_n and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n where_o he_o say_v he_o will_v send_v he_o he_o prevent_v say_v they_o the_o opinion_n may_v be_v conceyve_v of_o his_o proceed_n from_o he_o in_o that_o he_o say_v he_o will_v send_v from_o the_o father_n the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n which_o proceed_v from_o the_o father_n &c_n &c_n to_o which_o they_o further_o add_v that_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n between_o the_o temporal_a send_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n at_o our_o lord_n request_n on_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o eternal_a proceed_n of_o the_o say_a spirit_n which_o be_v the_o point_n in_o question_n d._n tillenus_n his_o answer_n the_o proceed_n of_o the_o holy-ghost_n which_o be_v the_o third_o point_n which_o he_o mayntein_v to_o have_v no_o ground_n in_o scripture_n have_v his_o proof_n in_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o schoolman_n themselves_o against_o the_o greek_n who_o receive_v this_o article_n without_o any_o great_a difficulty_n in_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n in_o which_o be_v present_a john_n paleologus_fw-la emperor_n of_o constantinople_n but_o they_o receive_v but_o fained_o and_o by_o constraynte_a of_o their_o emperor_n who_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o the_o western_a church_n the_o article_n of_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n of_o transubstantiation_n of_o purgatory_n and_o other_o like_o which_o be_v without_o and_o against_o the_o scripture_n yet_o there_o be_v some_o bishop_n there_o that_o will_v never_o consent_v unto_o they_o but_o afterward_o cause_v all_o to_o be_v revoke_v impute_v the_o loss_n of_o the_o easte_n empire_n which_o happen_v short_o after_o this_o council_n to_o that_o unlucky_a union_n that_o there_o be_v make_v with_o the_o pope_n now_o as_o the_o principal_a question_n touch_v the_o holy_a ghost_n of_o his_o nature_n and_o of_o his_o office_n have_v always_o be_v determine_v by_o the_o scripture_n against_o the_o arrian_n eunomian_o &_o macedonian_n so_o also_o may_v therein_o be_v show_v his_o proceed_n from_o the_o father_n and_o from_o the_o son_n the_o place_n in_o saint_n paul_n can_v be_v shift_v of_o by_o his_o distinction_n of_o possession_n and_o proceed_n .6_o 〈◊〉_d 8.9_o 〈◊〉_d .6_o as_o if_o he_o speak_v only_o of_o the_o gift_n &_o possession_n of_o the_o spirit_n that_o jesus_n christ_n receve_v according_a to_o his_o humanity_n for_o the_o same_o spirit_n be_v there_o call_v both_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n &_o the_o spirit_n of_o he_o that_o raise_v up_o christ_n and_o when_o saint_n peter_n say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n by_o which_o the_o prophet_n have_v prophesy_v 1.11_o 〈◊〉_d 1.11_o he_o quite_o cut_v of_o the_o bishop_n answer_n for_o see_v that_o the_o prophet_n have_v prophesy_v before_o the_o incarnation_n of_o christ_n they_o can_v have_v prophesy_v by_o the_o spirit_n in_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v give_v to_o the_o humanity_n of_o christ_n and_o on_o the_o other_o side_n the_o scripture_n witness_v in_o infinite_a place_n that_o this_o spirit_n of_o the_o prophet_n be_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n the_o father_n which_o show_v as_o clear_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n proceed_v from_o the_o father_n &_o the_o son_n as_o the_o consubstantiality_n of_o the_o son_n with_o the_o father_n by_o conference_n of_o the_o place_n in_o the_o prophet_n that_o speak_v of_o jehova_n with_o the_o place_n in_o the_o evangelist_n and_o apostle_n which_o appropriate_v they_o unto_o christ_n the_o example_n of_o heliseus_fw-la that_o receive_v the_o spirit_n of_o helias_n be_v as_o little_a to_o purpose_n as_o the_o former_a distinction_n 15_o john_n 15_o jesus_n christ_n say_v that_o it_o be_v he_o that_o well_o send_v this_o spirit_n show_v his_o divine_a power_n helias_n answer_v to_o helizeus_fw-la when_o he_o ask_v he_o double_a portion_n of_o his_o spirit_n thou_o ask_v a_o hard_a thing_n meaning_n that_o it_o be_v not_o give_v by_o the_o power_n of_o man_n christ_n say_v not_o that_o it_o be_v a_o hard_a thing_n for_o he_o to_o send_v the_o comforter_n contrariwise_o he_o say_v all_o that_o his_o father_n have_v be_v he_o also_o he_o give_v it_o indeed_o and_o in_o effect_n to_o the_o apostle_n breathe_v on_o they_o and_o say_v receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n 20_o john_n 20_o and_o whereas_o du_fw-fr perron_n say_v that_o this_o may_v be_v expound_v of_o the_o possession_n &_o domination_n of_o the_o creature_n over_o which_o the_o father_n have_v give_v he_o all_o power_n as_o when_o the_o father_n of_o the_o prodigal_a child_n say_v to_o his_o elder_a son_n the_o like_a word_n all_o that_o be_v i_o be_v thou_o i_o answer_v as_o above_o be_v already_o say_v that_o the_o spirit_n be_v in_o the_o son_n as_o in_o the_o father_n and_o as_o be_v show_v that_o the_o spirit_n proceed_v from_o the_o father_n by_o the_o place_n which_o say_v that_o the_o father_n send_v he_o from_o the_o father_n so_o also_o may_v be_v show_v his_o proceed_n from_o the_o son_n by_o the_o place_n 5.1_o gal_n 4.6_o john_n 5.1_o god_n send_v the_o spirit_n of_o his_o son_n &_o the_o son_n do_v all_o thing_n that_o the_o father_n do_v etc._n etc._n it_o be_v object_v that_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o spirit_n proceed_v from_o the_o father_n that_o christ_n say_v he_o will_v pray_v the_o father_n to_o send_v he_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o christ_n in_o those_o place_n speak_v as_o mediator_n in_o which_o he_o be_v less_o that_o the_o father_n &_o so_o he_o say_v that_o the_o father_n be_v great_a than_o he_o and_o yet_o he_o say_v the_o father_n will_v send_v he_o in_o his_o name_n 15_o john_n 14_o john_n 15_o which_o counteruayl_v that_o other_o say_n that_o he_o will_v send_v he_o from_o the_o father_n as_o for_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o temporal_a mission_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o his_o eternal_a proceed_n i_o say_v that_o this_o eternal_a proceed_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o communication_n of_o the_o divine_a essence_n by_o which_o the_o three_o person_n of_o the_o trinity_n receive_v all_o the_o same_o essence_n from_o the_o father_n and_o from_o the_o son_n as_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o they_o both_o and_o see_v that_o the_o greek_n believe_v with_o we_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v god_n that_o he_o be_v equal_a to_o the_o father_n and_o to_o the_o son_n against_o the_o arrian_n and_o macedonian_n and_o that_o he_o be_v a_o distinct_a person_n from_o the_o father_n and_o from_o the_o son_n against_o the_o sabellian_o we_o be_v not_o to_o hold_v they_o for_o heretic_n in_o this_o point_n though_o they_o have_v certain_a particular_a manner_n of_o speak_v for_o as_o much_o as_o heresy_n be_v not_o in_o the_o word_n but_o in_o the_o sense_n as_o saint_n hierome_n say_v many_o among_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v not_o hold_v for_o heretic_n though_o they_o speak_v often_o improper_o of_o the_o misterye_n of_o the_o trinity_n of_o which_o number_n be_v s._n hillary_n tri●c_fw-la 2_o de_fw-fr tri●c_fw-la who_o in_o many_o place_n put_v three_o substance_n in_o god_n against_o the_o sound_n manner_n of_o speak_v whereof_o he_o excuse_v himself_o say_v that_o these_o thing_n surpass_v all_o signification_n of_o word_n all_o intention_n of_o sense_n all_o conception_n of_o sense_n all_o conception_n of_o understanding_n but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v right_o hold_v for_o heretical_a which_o in_o many_o thing_n do_v attribute_v unto_o itself_o the_o office_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o when_o it_o say_v that_o one_o can_v be_v assure_v of_o the_o truth_n and_o divinity_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o only_o by_o the_o testimony_n that_o that_o church_n give_v of_o it_o the_o bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr the_o four_o point_n which_o we_o have_v propound_v be_v the_o translation_n of_o the_o sabbath_n to_o sunday_n every_o one_o know_v how_o rigorous_a the_o commandment_n of_o the_o sabaoth_n be_v in_o the_o old_a law_n and_o how_o the_o grete_a both_o thretning_n &_o promise_n of_o god_n be_v make_v to_o those_o that_o violate_a or_o observe_v his_o sabbath_n and_o notwithstanding_o this_o commandment_n of_o god_n that_o god_n have_v vouchsafe_v to_o write_v with_o his_o own_o hand_n in_o the_o 10_o precept_n of_o the_o decalogue_n &_o to_o sequester_v it_o as_o by_o special_a privilege_n from_o all_o precept_n of_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n for_o to_o insert_v it_o in_o the_o epitome_n of_o the_o moral_a law_n yet_o the_o church_n have_v change_v it_o with_o out_o any_o write_a ordinance_n both_o as_o touch_v the_o end_n the_o form_n use_v the_o matter_n first_o as_o concern_v the_o end_n saturday_n be_v ordain_v to_o commemorate_v the_o creation_n of_o the_o world_n &_o god_n rest_v after_o

particular_o the_o sprinkle_n of_o the_o book_n may_v be_v comprehend_v under_o the_o sprinkle_n of_o the_o altar_n si●h_v both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o represent_v god_n in_o this_o ratification_n of_o the_o covenant_n for_o the_o book_n contain_v the_o law_n and_o the_o condition_n that_o god_n require_v in_o this_o contract_n wherefore_o as_o s._n paul_n omit_v the_o sprinkle_n of_o the_o altar_n so_o moses_n omit_v the_o express_a mention_n of_o the_o book_n both_o of_o they_o use_v a_o synecdoche_n the_o inconvenience_n that_o the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr allege_v be_v that_o if_o the_o book_n have_v be_v sprinkle_v with_o the_o altar_n moses_n have_v blot_v out_o the_o write_n of_o the_o covenant_n before_o he_o have_v read_v it_o to_o the_o people_n a_o great_a matter_n sure_a that_o one_o can_v sprinkle_v a_o thing_n without_o blot_v and_o spoil_v it_o as_o though_o he_o who_o in_o consecrate_v aaron_n sprinkle_v those_o part_n of_o he_o that_o god_n have_v command_v he_o to_o sprinkle_v without_o plunge_v or_o drown_v he_o in_o blood_n though_o in_o other_o place_n he_o sprinkle_v a_o great_a quantity_n can_v not_o as_o well_o sprinkle_v the_o book_n without_o mar_v it_o shed_v the_o great_a quantity_n of_o blood_n upon_o the_o altar_n there_o be_v as_o much_o cunning_n in_o this_o consideration_n as_o there_o be_v reason_n in_o his_o reproof_n of_o our_o translation_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o s._n paul_n use_v verse_n 19_o to_o speak_v which_o du_n perron_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ordain_v by_o the_o tradition_n of_o his_o new_a lexicon_n that_o henceforth_o it_o signify_v to_o read_v he_o persuade_v himself_o that_o the_o opinion_n of_o caluin_n who_o say_v that_o in_o saint_n paul_n time_n there_o be_v perhaps_o some_o commentary_n of_o the_o prophet_n which_o recount_v more_o ample_o that_o which_o moses_n have_v touch_v only_o by_o form_n of_o abridgement_n make_v great_o for_o his_o purpose_n as_o if_o it_o do_v follow_v that_o those_o commentary_n contain_v infallible_o the_o tradition_n at_o this_o day_n in_o controversy_n or_o because_o they_o be_v lose_v that_o he_o do_v the_o scripture_n no_o wrong_a to_o defame_v it_o as_o imperfect_a &_o unsufficient_a let_v he_o learn_v of_o s._n augustine_n that_o it_o be_v no_o wise_a necessary_a that_o all_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o prophet_n shall_v be_v indifferent_o canonical_a 38_o ●●g_v de_fw-fr ciu._n ●●i_fw-la li._n 18_o 38_o say_v he_o i_o esteem_v that_o they_o to_o who_o the_o holy_a ghost_n reveal_v that_o which_o shall_v be_v authentical_a for_o religion_n may_v write_v certain_a thing_n as_o man_n with_o a_o historical_a diligence_n and_o other_o thing_n as_o prophet_n by_o divine_a inspiration_n and_o that_o these_o same_o be_v so_o distinguish_v that_o the_o one_o be_v attribute_v as_o to_o they_o but_o the_o other_o as_o to_o god_n speak_v by_o they_o so_o that_o the_o former_a pertein_v to_o a_o more_o ample_a knowledge_n the_o latter_a to_o the_o authority_n of_o religion_n in_o which_o authority_n the_o canon_n be_v maintain_v and_o keep_v beside_o which_o if_o there_o be_v yet_o any_o writing_n bear_v the_o name_n of_o true_a prophet_n they_o serve_v not_o for_o to_o have_v a_o more_o abundance_n of_o knowledge_n by_o they_o because_o it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o they_o be_v they_o to_o who_o they_o be_v attribute_v and_o therefore_o we_o believe_v they_o not_o especial_o those_o in_o which_o we_o find_v thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o canonical_a faith_n and_o thus_o be_v caluin_n clear_v it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n cease_v not_o to_o be_v man_n after_o that_o god_n have_v choose_v they_o to_o be_v prophet_n and_o apostle_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o prophesy_v and_o reveal_v the_o mystery_n of_o god_n to_o man_n whether_o it_o be_v by_o word_n of_o mouth_n or_o by_o writing_n 1._o vide_fw-la thom●_n aqui._n par_fw-fr 2_o q._n 171._o be_v 1._o be_v not_o in_o they_o as_o the_o habitude_n of_o a_o science_n get_v by_o study_n neither_o as_o the_o light_n be_v in_o a_o heavenly_a body_n but_o rather_o as_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o air_n from_o which_o it_o may_v be_v easy_o separate_v so_o that_o as_o they_o can_v not_o heal_v all_o disease_n at_o all_o time_n and_o so_o often_o as_o they_o list_v so_o can_v they_o not_o prophesy_v when_o they_o will_v 4.27_o 2._o kin._n 4.27_o neither_o know_v they_o any_o thing_n but_o what_o it_o please_v the_o lord_n to_o reveal_v unto_o they_o witness_n heliseus_fw-la who_o know_v not_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o sadness_n and_o bitterness_n that_o the_o sunamite_n have_v in_o her_o heart_n because_o the_o lord_n have_v hide_v it_o from_o he_o and_o samuel_n think_v that_o eliab_n have_v be_v he_o that_o the_o lord_n have_v choose_v to_o be_v king_n in_o saules_n stead_n nathan_n also_o say_v to_o david_n when_o he_o purpose_v to_o build_v the_o temple_n etc._n 1._o sam._n 16_o 7._o 2._o sam._n 7._o etc._n etc._n 1._o chro._n 17_o etc._n etc._n do_v all_o that_o be_v in_o thy_o heart_n for_o the_o lord_n be_v with_o thou_o wherein_o both_o of_o they_o be_v abuse_v by_o the_o instinct_n of_o his_o own_o mind_n &_o therefore_o saint_n gregory_n cite_v by_o thomas_n aquinas_n say_v that_o it_o happen_v sometime_o that_o the_o prophet_n be_v ask_v counsel_n of_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o great_a use_n or_o custom_n of_o prophesi_v utter_v thing_n of_o their_o own_o mind_n have_v opinion_n that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n it_o be_v not_o therefore_o sufficient_a that_o a_o thing_n be_v pronounce_v or_o write_v by_o a_o prophet_n or_o a_o apostle_n for_o to_o have_v a_o canonical_a authority_n attribute_v unto_o it_o but_o it_o behoove_v also_o that_o there_o come_v between_o the_o motion_n and_o inspiration_n of_o god_n assure_v those_o holy_a man_n not_o only_o of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o matter_n which_o they_o treat_v for_o all_o that_o contain_v truth_n have_v not_o canonical_a authority_n but_o also_o of_o the_o end_n and_o use_v thereof_o namely_o that_o it_o be_v for_o to_o be_v authentical_a for_o to_o serve_v for_o a_o infallible_a rule_n to_o the_o faith_n and_o life_n of_o the_o faithful_a to_o go_v about_o to_o conclude_v a_o canonical_a authority_n of_o some_o book_n by_o the_o all●gation_n of_o some_o place_n that_o a_o apostle_n cit_v from_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o deserve_v rather_o to_o be_v laugh_v at_o than_o to_o be_v answer_v for_o by_o that_o mean_v it_o will_v follow_v as_o have_v be_v abovesaid_a that_o menander_n aratus_n and_o epimenides_n or_o callimachus_n heathen_a poet_n shall_v have_v the_o like_a authority_n as_o the_o divine_a prophet_n because_o s._n paul_n allege_v and_o approve_v some_o of_o their_o verse_n .._o and_o therefore_o though_o we_o shall_v say_v with_o caluin_n that_o the_o particular_n and_o circumstance_n express_v in_o this_o 9_o chapter_n may_v be_v take_v forth_o of_o the_o commentary_n of_o some_o prophet_n which_o we_o have_v not_o yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v either_o that_o it_o be_v part_n of_o the_o canon_n or_o though_o it_o be_v which_o we_o say_v only_o by_o concession_n or_o grant_n that_o the_o canon_n which_o we_o have_v be_v imperfect_a god_n of_o his_o goodness_n have_v preserve_v so_o much_o of_o it_o as_o he_o know_v to_o be_v necessary_a for_o his_o church_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o part_n essential_a though_o there_o want_v some_o of_o the_o part_n call_v integrall_a and_o though_o we_o shall_v not_o follow_v the_o opinion_n of_o caluin_n yet_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o these_o particular_n by_o the_o tradition_n or_o cabal_n of_o the_o jew_n see_v they_o may_v have_v take_v they_o from_o some_o other_o book_n not_o write_v by_o any_o prophet_n nevertheless_o receive_v among_o the_o jew_n though_o not_o with_o prophetical_a authority_n as_o some_o historiographer_n be_v among_o us._n and_o therefore_o the_o cardinal_n caietan_n who_o shall_v every_o way_n better_o know_v what_o be_v derive_v from_o tradition_n than_o the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr who_o be_v inferior_a unto_o he_o in_o dignity_n in_o knowledge_n and_o in_o place_n of_o residence_n the_o cardinal_n have_v be_v ordinary_o near_o the_o oracle_n of_o rome_n &_o drink_v of_o the_o fountain_n of_o tradition_n say_v in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o this_o chapter_n &_o namely_o of_o the_o particular_a of_o the_o golden_a censoure_n which_o after_o the_o opinion_n of_o many_o be_v in_o the_o most_o holy_a place_n from_o which_o our_o bishop_n make_v his_o strong_a instance_n it_o be_v not_o know_v whence_o the_o author_n of_o this_o epistle_n have_v take_v this_o namely_o that_o the_o golden_a censer_n be_v in_o the_o

of_o the_o new_a nor_o yet_o of_o these_o two_o epistle_n which_o he_o have_v write_v to_o he_o of_o purpose_n for_o to_o instruct_v he_o how_o he_o shall_v walk_v in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n which_o be_v the_o church_n of_o the_o live_a god_n 3_o 1._o t●m_fw-la 3_o the_o pillar_n and_o foundation_n of_o truth_n whereas_o i_o say_v that_o the_o romish_a church_n cause_v a_o infinite_a number_n of_o thing_n to_o be_v observe_v as_o the_o law_n of_o god_n which_o we_o know_v by_o their_o own_o history_n to_o have_v be_v institute_v many_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n he_o answer_v two_o thing_n 1_o that_o the_o practice_n of_o certain_a point_n be_v find_v have_v be_v in_o the_o church_n a_o long_a time_n before_o they_o which_o we_o imagine_v to_o be_v the_o inventor_n of_o it_o whereof_o he_o cote_v afterward_o seven_o example_n namely_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a lent_n single_a life_n confirmation_n the_o mixture_n of_o water_n and_o wine_n consecration_n of_o altar_n and_o the_o oblation_n or_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n 2_o that_o they_o confound_v not_o under_o the_o name_n of_o apostolic_a tradition_n all_o the_o custom_n observe_v in_o the_o church_n but_o that_o they_o distinguish_v between_o the_o universal_a and_o the_o particular_a and_o that_o even_o among_o the_o universal_a some_o only_o be_v apostolic_a to_o wit_n such_o as_o have_v always_o since_o the_o apostle_n time_n be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n but_o the_o other_o that_o have_v be_v ordain_v in_o latter_a age_n be_v ecclesiastical_a but_o the_o question_n be_v not_o how_o they_o of_o the_o romish_a church_n distinstuish_v their_o tradition_n but_o by_o what_o authority_n and_o power_n they_o cause_v man_n observe_v as_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n thing_n that_o be_v not_o institute_v by_o christ_n nor_o his_o apostle_n for_o those_o which_o they_o call_v ecclesiastical_a and_o which_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n come_v not_o in_o use_n nor_o yet_o into_o knowledge_n till_o many_o age_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o less_o but_o much_o more_o rigorous_o command_v than_o those_o which_o they_o call_v apostolical_a it_o shall_v suffice_v to_o verify_v and_o manifest_v this_o by_o one_o example_n it_o be_v general_o know_v that_o the_o most_o solemn_a and_o most_o religious_a devotion_n at_o this_o day_n in_o the_o romish_a church_n be_v that_o which_o they_o call_v god_n feast_n or_o corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la day_n to_o the_o observation_n whereof_o pope_n vrban_n the_o 4._o attribute_v remission_n of_o sin_n ●uck_n ●●lla_o ●uck_n which_o be_v the_o knowledge_n of_o salvation_n according_a to_o the_o gospel_n and_o the_o number_n of_o pardon_n grant_v only_o to_o the_o beholder_n of_o the_o same_o be_v almost_o infinite_a and_o whether_o we_o consider_v the_o severity_n of_o prelate_n in_o command_v it_o and_o the_o magnificence_n in_o celebrate_v it_o or_o the_o devotion_n of_o the_o people_n in_o prepare_v themselves_o thereunto_o and_o the_o efficacy_n they_o imagine_v of_o it_o we_o shall_v find_v that_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o they_o pretend_v to_o be_v much_o more_o necessary_a and_o more_o divine_a than_o to_o say_v requiescant_fw-la in_o pace_n than_o to_o abstain_v from_o flesh_n and_o egg_n in_o lent_n or_o any_o other_o point_n of_o the_o pretend_a apostolic_a tradition_n in_o the_o mean_a while_n our_o bishop_n himself_o though_o he_o deny_v all_o can_v deny_v that_o this_o devotion_n be_v institute_v near_o 12._o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o if_o he_o deny_v it_o bellarmine_n will_v reprove_v he_o 30._o ●acr_n euch._n 〈◊〉_d 30._o who_o confess_v that_o pope_n vrban_n 4._o be_v the_o first_o author_n of_o it_o and_o no_o writer_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n deni_v it_o though_o they_o agree_v not_o all_o touch_v the_o motive_n of_o this_o institution_n for_o some_o will_v have_v that_o the_o cause_n of_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a miracle_n happen_v in_o italy_n of_o a_o wafer_n cake_n that_o bleed_v as_o a_o certain_a priest_n doubt_v of_o transubstantiation_n hold_v it_o in_o his_o hand_n other_o attribute_v it_o to_o a_o woman_n of_o the_o country_n of_o liege_n who_o the_o say_a pope_n have_v familiar_o know_v before_o his_o popedom_n and_o who_o have_v give_v the_o pope_n to_o understande_v a_o vision_n or_o revelation_n that_o she_o have_v touch_v the_o institution_n of_o this_o feast_n he_o straight_o ordain_v it_o and_o celebrate_v it_o first_o at_o rome_n and_o afterward_o clement_a the_o five_o make_v a_o most_o rigorous_a law_n concern_v it_o confirm_v even_o by_o the_o council_n of_o vienna_n hereupon_o i_o demand_v our_o bishop_n to_o what_o use_n be_v his_o distinction_n that_o he_o make_v between_o apostolic_a and_o ecclesiastic_a tradition_n see_v that_o these_o latter_a be_v command_v for_o as_o much_o or_o more_o necessary_a meritorious_a and_o divine_a as_o the_o former_a again_o i_o demand_v to_o what_o purpose_n he_o take_v so_o much_o pain_n for_o to_o show_v that_o certain_a thing_n be_v very_o ancient_a see_v there_o be_v new_a and_o latter_a thing_n which_o have_v more_o authority_n necessity_n and_o efficacy_n than_o the_o old_a and_o see_v it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o some_o pope_n have_v ordain_v a_o thing_n without_o inquire_v of_o the_o antiquity_n or_o novelty_n of_o the_o same_o for_o the_o pope_n now_o a_o day_n attribute_v as_o much_o yea_o much_o more_o power_n and_o authority_n to_o himself_o than_o they_o do_v that_o be_v seven_o or_o eight_o hundred_o year_n ago_o and_o require_v no_o less_o but_o much_o more_o obedience_n in_o that_o which_o at_o this_o day_n he_o command_v than_o in_o that_o which_o his_o predecessor_n command_v a_o thousand_o year_n ago_o for_o as_o before_o the_o god_n of_o heaven_n a_o thousand_o year_n be_v as_o one_o day_n so_o before_o this_o god_n on_o earth_n one_o day_n be_v as_o a_o thousand_o year_n when_o there_o be_v question_n to_o make_v himself_o be_v obey_v yea_o the_o time_n have_v be_v when_o pope_n think_v they_o can_v not_o well_o establish_v their_o own_o law_n unless_o they_o do_v abolish_v the_o law_n of_o their_o predecessor_n that_o be_v unless_o they_o displant_v antiquity_n to_o plant_v in_o novelty_n moreover_o if_o every_o thing_n that_o concern_v salvation_n as_o those_o do_v that_o bring_v remission_n of_o sin_n ought_v to_o be_v ground_v on_o the_o word_n of_o god_n either_o write_v or_o unwritten_a as_o he_o grant_v and_o presuppose_v throughout_o his_o book_n by_o what_o conscience_n can_v the_o pope_n institute_n this_o new_a mean_n of_o salvation_n with_o many_o other_o in_o which_o number_n be_v our_o bishop_n grain_n if_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v only_o find_v either_o in_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n or_o in_o the_o pretend_a apostolic_a tradition_n contain_v in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o that_o which_o be_v find_v in_o neither_o of_o both_o these_o two_o register_n be_v by_o his_o own_o confession_n the_o word_n and_o invention_n of_o man_n and_o therefore_o a_o vain_a thing_n and_o displease_v to_o god_n by_o jesus_n christ_n his_o own_o sentence_n 15._o math._n 15._o but_o let_v we_o hear_v bellarmine_n on_o this_o point_n 9_o de_fw-fr verb._n ●_o l._n 4._o c._n 9_o nothing_o be_v of_o the_o faith_n but_o only_o that_o which_o god_n have_v reveal_v by_o the_o apostle_n or_o by_o the_o prophet_n or_o that_o which_o be_v evident_o deduce_v from_o it_o for_o the_o church_n be_v no_o more_o govern_v by_o new_a revelation_n but_o persi_v in_o they_o which_o those_o man_n that_o have_v be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n have_v give_v by_o tradition_n for_o therefore_o it_o be_v say_v ephe._n 2._o build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n wherefore_o all_o the_o thing_n which_o the_o church_n hold_v to_o be_v matter_n of_o faith_n have_v be_v give_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o prophet_n either_o by_o writing_n or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n after_o he_o add_v when_o the_o whole_a church_n observe_v something_o that_o none_o can_v institute_v but_o only_a god_n and_o which_o notwithstanding_o be_v find_v no_o where_n write_v we_o must_v say_v it_o be_v give_v by_o the_o tradition_n of_o jesus_n christ_n himself_o and_o of_o his_o apostle_n the_o reason_n be_v for_o that_o the_o universal_a church_n can_v err_v not_o only_o in_o that_o which_o it_o believe_v but_o as_o little_a in_o that_o which_o it_o do_v and_o principal_o in_o ceremony_n or_o divine_a worship_n let_v we_o conclude_v then_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o this_o great_a rabbi_n who_o acknowledge_v that_o this_o ceremony_n of_o corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la day_n be_v institute_v well_o near_o 1200._o year_n after_o the_o apostle_n by_o pope_n vrbane_n 4._o

the_o pope_n and_o every_o other_o bishop_n unattainted_a or_o convince_v of_o notorious_a crime_n he_o be_v force_v to_o grant_v it_o i_o but_o when_o i_o request_v further_o that_o he_o will_v give_v i_o this_o proposition_n in_o wright_v sign_v by_o he_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v of_o it_o no_o more_o than_o he_o find_v it_o fit_n to_o insert_v this_o question_n in_o the_o number_n of_o the_o seven_o that_o he_o treat_v there_o be_v also_o speak_v of_o the_o institution_n of_o monk_n of_o their_o rule_n and_o ceremony_n special_o of_o the_o charterhouse_n monk_n which_o instance_n importune_v he_o much_o find_v neither_o canall_n pipe_n nor_o devise_v whatsoever_o that_o can_v make_v to_o flow_v form_n apostolic_a tradition_n that_o angelical_a perfection_n whereof_o the_o charterous_a and_o other_o monk_n do_v boast_v in_o this_o altercation_n he_o say_v diverse_a thing_n so_o enormous_a and_o contrary_a even_o to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n that_o if_o they_o have_v be_v set_v down_o in_o writing_n as_o i_o most_o instant_o require_v we_o shall_v have_v a_o goodly_a mirror_n of_o theology_n or_o rather_o pyrronian_n technologie_n and_o see_v he_o then_o rather_o choose_v to_o break_v off_o the_o conference_n then_o grant_v i_o this_o just_a request_n he_o shall_v permit_v i_o also_o to_o finish_v rather_o here_o this_o answer_n to_o his_o reply_n then_o to_o wander_v with_o he_o from_o our_o principal_a question_n for_o to_o extravagte_v upon_o the_o new_a instance_n that_o he_o propound_v beside_o the_o purpose_n consider_v also_o that_o before_o the_o treat_v of_o they_o after_o the_o method_n that_o he_o observe_v and_o require_v namely_o by_o the_o only_a authority_n of_o the_o father_n without_o any_o testimony_n consequence_n or_o analagie_a of_o scripture_n these_o question_n be_v to_o be_v handle_v i._o whether_o controversy_n ought_v to_o be_v decide_v by_o the_o write_n of_o father_n ii_o who_o give_v they_o that_o authority_n see_v themselves_o never_o have_v acknowledge_v nor_o demand_v it_o iii_o whether_o if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o visible_a church_n can_v err_v this_o same_o privilege_n appertain_v to_o every_o doctor_n or_o particular_a bishop_n of_o the_o church_n iv_o if_o it_o belong_v only_o unto_o some_o by_o what_o work_v we_o shall_v discern_v these_o infallible_a one_o from_o other_o v._o upon_o what_o ground_n be_v build_v our_o bishop_n distinction_n that_o the_o father_n may_v err_v in_o quality_n of_o doctor_n and_o bishop_n but_o not_o in_o quality_n of_o witness_n see_v that_o by_o this_o mean_n one_o part_n of_o their_o writing_n be_v manifest_o make_v equal_a to_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n to_o who_o only_o by_o special_a prerogative_n belong_v this_o quality_n or_o title_n of_o witness_n irreprochable_a and_o without_o exception_n ●_o luk._n 24_o 4●_n act._n 18._o ●_o 15._o &_o ●_o in_o that_o which_o concern_v the_o point_n of_o our_o salvation_n for_o though_o antipas_n and_o other_o christian_n be_v call_v faithful_a witness_n of_o christ_n 2.1_o reu._n 2.1_o this_o testimony_n have_v only_a reference_n to_o their_o constant_a confession_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o torment_n not_o for_o to_o make_v authentical_a unto_o we_o any_o point_n of_o doctrine_n otherwise_o all_o the_o martyr_n shall_v be_v make_v equal_a to_o the_o apostle_n who_o be_v choose_v instruct_v and_o send_v immediate_o by_o our_o lord_n christ_n and_o all_o that_o the_o father_n have_v write_v as_o witness_n shall_v be_v insert_v into_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o scripture_n for_o to_o make_v it_o a_o entire_a rule_n see_v that_o after_o bellarmine_n the_o scripture_n be_v but_o a_o rule_n partial_a 12_o de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 12_o not_o total_a yea_o the_o very_a treatise_n of_o the_o unsufficiencie_n of_o the_o scripture_n if_o our_o bishop_n have_v not_o write_v it_o as_o a_o false_a witness_n and_o if_o all_o that_o which_o contain_v truth_n be_v as_o he_o maintain_v arm_v with_o canonical_a authority_n shall_v be_v add_v to_o the_o scripture_n as_o a_o excellent_a piece_n of_o work_n and_o singular_a ornament_n of_o the_o same_o vi_o wherefore_o the_o romish_a church_n have_v change_v reform_a censure_v and_o abolish_v so_o many_o thing_n which_o the_o father_n be_v report_v as_o witness_n concern_v the_o ceremony_n and_o policy_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o which_o they_o teach_v as_o bishop_n and_o doctor_n in_o expound_v the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o exposition_n be_v nothing_o else_o according_a to_o the_o say_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr but_o the_o subsidiarie_n tradition_n without_o which_o the_o bare_a text_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v unprofitable_a not_o be_v able_a to_o be_v understand_v or_o dangerous_a not_o be_v well_o understand_v and_o of_o such_o reformation_n censure_n and_o abolishment_n we_o will_v produce_v when_o need_n shall_v be_v innumerable_a instance_n meanwhile_o the_o deposition_n of_o cardinal_n baronius_n shall_v suffice_v a_o witness_n yet_o live_v and_o who_o be_v worth_a many_o other_o both_o for_o his_o learning_n and_o for_o his_o dignity_n ●nt_n ●l_n eccl._n ●1_n ad_fw-la aen_fw-la ●4_n impres_n ●nt_n these_o be_v his_o word_n all_o the_o bishop_n that_o have_v succeed_v the_o apostle_n have_v not_o attain_v the_o meaning_n and_o understand_v of_o the_o scripture_n neither_o have_v it_o be_v necessary_a they_o shall_v always_o have_v excel_v in_o this_o grace_n for_o the_o catholic_a church_n follow_v not_o always_o nor_o in_o all_o thing_n even_o the_o most_o holy_a father_n who_o we_o right_o call_v the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n because_o of_o their_o excellent_a doctrine_n though_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o they_o be_v induce_v with_o this_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n above_o other_o see_v here_o the_o subsidiarie_n tradition_n plant_v by_o our_o bishop_n supplant_v and_o cut_v down_o to_o the_o very_a root_n by_o the_o axe_n of_o this_o cardinal_n the_o pope_n library_n keeper_n but_o do_v he_o leave_v at_o leastwise_o to_o the_o ancient_a father_n this_o dignity_n of_o unfallible_a and_o irrefragable_a witness_n as_o little_a true_o contrariwise_o he_o exceed_o reject_v this_o outrageous_a flattery_n ●22_n 〈◊〉_d 1._o ad_fw-la an●39_n ●39_z ●22_n when_o he_o say_v the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n write_v by_o saint_n luke_n deserve_v more_o credit_n than_o any_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_n yea_o he_o confess_v not_o only_o that_o many_o thing_n have_v be_v false_o attribute_v to_o the_o apostle_n but_o also_o that_o those_o thing_n which_o true_a and_o sincere_a writer_n have_v report_v ●2_n ●n_n chr_n 44_o ●2_n have_v not_o remain_v entire_a without_o be_v corrupt_v vii_o why_o we_o may_v not_o believe_v of_o many_o father_n that_o which_o this_o same_o cardinal_n affirm_v of_o saint_n cyprian_n 258._o ●al_a tom_fw-mi 1_o ●n_n 258._o namely_o that_o he_o abide_v not_o in_o his_o error_n but_o renounce_v it_o before_o his_o death_n though_o that_o do_v not_o appear_v neither_o by_o his_o writing_n nor_o by_o any_o other_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n if_o charity_n be_v the_o only_a cause_n of_o this_o affirmation_n touch_v one_o ancient_a father_n acknowledgement_n why_o may_v not_o we_o use_v the_o like_a charity_n give_v the_o same_o judgement_n &_o conclude_v in_o like_a sort_n of_o other_o consider_v the_o retraction_n that_o one_o of_o the_o most_o excellent_a among_o they_o augustine_n augustine_n have_v leave_v unto_o we_o &_o who_o happy_o add_v many_o other_o before_o his_o death_n either_o by_o writing_n or_o at_o least_o wise_a in_o his_o mind_n himself_o also_o do_v authorise_v as_o to_o say_v of_o he_o that_o which_o he_o say_v of_o s._n cyprian_a 4._o de_fw-fr bap●_n contr_n d●_n l._n 1._o c._n 4._o it_o may_v be_v this_o holy_a soul_n consent_v to_o the_o truth_n as_o though_o we_o know_v it_o not_o for_o all_o that_o be_v then_o do_v among_o the_o bishop_n can_v not_o be_v write_v or_o preserve_v neither_o know_v we_o all_o that_o be_v write_v and_o in_o another_o place_n 48_o epist_n 48_o we_o find_v not_o that_o he_o corect_v this_o opinion_n but_o it_o be_v not_o without_o reason_n that_o we_o be_v to_o judge_v of_o such_o a_o person_n that_o he_o correct_v it_o and_o perhaps_o that_o be_v suppress_v by_o those_o that_o take_v too_o great_a pleasure_n in_o this_o error_n and_o will_v not_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o defence_n of_o such_o a_o advocate_n these_o be_v my_o seven_o question_n which_o must_v first_o be_v clear_v before_o we_o come_v unto_o his_o seven_o the_o most_o important_a of_o which_o which_o be_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n be_v elsewhere_o dispatch_v and_o as_o yet_o by_o he_o unanswered_a and_o as_o for_o the_o lie_v he_o give_v to_o caluin_n viret_n and_o chemnicius_n touch_v the_o institution_n of_o the_o other_o six_o point_n they_o fall_v back_o not_o only_o upon_o polidorus_fw-la virgilius_n platina_n sigebert_n bergomas_n and_o such_o other_o historian_n minorum_fw-la gentium_fw-la or_o upon_o gratian_n the_o compiler_n of_o the_o decretal_n which_o serve_v for_o text_n in_o the_o school_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n as_o the_o holy_a scripture_n do_v in_o we_o 1345._o vide_fw-la to_o ●_o biblio_fw-la s._n trum_fw-la p_o 1345._o but_o also_o upon_o the_o head_n of_o a_o pope_n himself_o nam_o damasus_n who_o report_v the_o institution_n of_o certain_a point_n even_o as_o the_o other_o that_o follow_v he_o also_o upon_o pope_n eugenius_n 2._o attribute_v sovereign_a authority_n to_o gratian'ss_n decretal_n and_o in_o general_a on_o all_o the_o pope_n that_o have_v approve_v it_o since_o but_o what_o will_v he_o get_v by_o it_o if_o we_o shall_v take_v the_o original_n of_o these_o thing_n high_o and_o of_o a_o elder_a date_n see_v that_o no_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_n come_v near_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o evangelist_n since_o that_o which_o the_o true_a writer_n have_v report_v since_o have_v not_o remain_v entire_a by_o baronius_n his_o own_o confession_n to_o conclude_v 11_o de_fw-fr verb●_n l._n 4._o c_o 11_o see_v that_o bellarmine_n confess_v on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v wtitten_v all_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v necessary_a for_o all_o and_o the_o thing_n which_o they_o have_v public_o preach_v to_o all_o it_o shall_v be_v lawful_a for_o i_o to_o crown_v the_o former_a question_n with_o this_o conclusion_n which_o flow_v from_o the_o confession_n of_o that_o arch-rabbi_n namely_o that_o the_o seven_o article_n which_o the_o bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr propound_v be_v not_o necessary_a to_o all_o man_n see_v they_o have_v not_o be_v public_o preach_v by_o the_o apostle_n or_o if_o they_o be_v necessary_a to_o all_o he_o must_v show_v by_o their_o writing_n that_o they_o have_v preach_v they_o public_o this_o be_v it_o that_o i_o summon_v he_o to_o do_v if_o he_o can_v do_v it_o i_o counsel_v he_o to_o be_v silent_a and_o to_o acknowledge_v his_o own_o imperfection_n and_o unsufficiencie_n rather_o than_o to_o attribute_v it_o to_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v most_o perfect_a and_o most_o sufficient_a as_o well_o to_o save_v they_o that_o follow_v it_o as_o to_o confound_v those_o that_o blaspheme_v it_o finis_fw-la