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A military dialogue betweene Philomusus and Miles lively expressing the horrible effects of war, and the unspeakable benefit of peace / by Richard Carter.
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Carter, Richard.
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STC 4697.5; ESTC S1537
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saist peace breeds plentiousnesse That freely I confesse But saying store breeds idlenesse Therein thou do'st digresse Wine is not drunken of it self Though Drunkards it abuse Nor idlenesse proceeds from pelfe Though some it leudly vse Nowe Judge thyself whether that man In idlenesse doth rest When he doth labour what he can Of store to be possest Or he that hath not wherewithall His empty maw to feed With tooth and naile and hand doth hall For to supply his need We live in peace with what we got You live in Warre and want It doth appeare we loyter not But you in worke are scant If you more idle did not live In warre then we in peace You freely would to others give And not their goods decrease You say there are of vices swarms In peace and plenty now But I conceale a thousand harms From bloudy warres that flow I rather plough and sow in field With sweat to get my bread Then in the Warres with golden shield A Troop of Horses lead O noble Athens hadst thou used Dame Pallas gift aright Thy walls had then not been abus'd But still had stood in sight Before the walls were raized above And ere the Town had name Or God Neptune with Pallas strove For honour of the same Their strife was this first Neptune smote A Rock with Trident Mace From whence a warlike Horse did trot Well harnessed in that place Then Pallas smote the ground most free With Javelin she did beare From whence afresh green Olive Tree Did presently appeare The warlike Horse did represent In warre most good successe The Olive Tree did with consent To Athens peace expresse Then wisely Athens took their course In one they did agree Forsaking Neptunes armed Horse They choosed Pallas Tree If they fore-seeing victory Did rather seek for peace How much more then ought we then they From doubtfull wars to cease Now Souldiers leave Tou-to-lo-gie If men in peace do wrong Good Laws have now free liberty To punish them ere long Miles BVt by your leave I am not mad My wits are not yet flowne I doe not make a good thing bad Nor speake of things unknowne Epe-mi nun-das doth report That under Cloak of peace Vice vaunteth out with pompe and port But vertue doth encrease Sodom and Gomor in the plaine With divers Cities more There did not one of them remaine But onely little Zoar. These liv'd in peace and fond desire Fearing no warre at all Till from the Lord Brimstone and fire Did downe upon them fall When did Darius Kingdomes jarre Who Asia all possest But when he was unarm'd for warre And gave himselfe to rest You trim your selves in Peacocks plumes Sporting in Venus Court You are besmear'd with sweet perfumes And use each want on sport A Helmet hides your handsome face Oh take heed of a Gunne Your Mistris you cannot embrace If Mars his course you runne You are foole bent with fond intent To dance in Venus string To all delights you are attent All care away you sing What did you never heare this truth What stories do report Of Hercules how in his youth There did to him resort Two Ladies one a dainty dame In stately Robes beclad The other plain of Natures frame These found the yongster sad To Hercules these females came But one with wanton tricks The other vnto fight for fame His youthfull courage pricks But Hercules he did detest The first and all she said Unto the second Ladies heast He during life obeyed By Hercules his choice and fate We easily may gesse That peace makes men effeminate Which Warre will soon suppresse Philomusus NOw Tully doth preferre ill peace Before a most just Warre Therefore when Foxes teach the Geese Great danger is not farre For Pius Anthonius said I better like of peace Then other Kingdomes to invade My glory to increase And Andrianus also said He rather would divide Small bounds in peace then make aside To conquer Kingdomes wide For Warr that changeth peace I say Is like a harebrain Colt That leaves the plain and beaten way Ore Hedge and Ditch to bolt Not peace but the abuse of peace Gods anger doth provoke When Sodome did her sin increase Gods wrath on them did smoake I say not but that wisdome would In peace we should prepare Against our foes alwayes we should Still have a watchfull care I wish our ships may multiply And in our Havens ride And that we may both farre and nigh Artillery provide I wish our youth with Marshall strain May train in every place By means hereof we may attain Great skill in little space Miles INdeed your words I understand But oh how brave a thing It is when fame in every Land Our valiant Prowesse ring But heare me now I tell you what To this you needs must yield No fame can be compar'd with that That is obtain'd in field Thus famé doth frump them to their face Who do all Warre deride Such do condemme the Eagles grace And praise the Peacocks price Philomusus THou seemest to have a valiant heart Thou countst of bloud but light Consider thou a Christian art And they that with thee fight Are Christians too aswell as wee What should there be more said In Truth and Peace we must agree As members of one head The Heathen they were still at odds God was to them unknown And every man ador'd his gods Or Idols of his own But Christians have one God most good That God we worship all Know thou that shedding Christians blood Is not a trespasse small Lucre of gain did move their hands To Warre and bloody Rage For quarrels small on forreigne Lands Ungodly Warres do wage As they their Triumphs did erect So envie did abound And they whom least they did suspect Did first their pride confound Where is the Parsian Macedon And Roman Empire wide And Thesius that valiant one And Hercules beside Alexander with thousands more Which I omit to name Did hazard life and all their store To follow fleeting fame What can you say now of these men That shed of blood such store For take away the cause and then Their fame remayns no more Yet such as you as Tully says That nothing have to lose Are forward still in brawles and frayes For then your profit grows In troubled waters you may fish Not waying others wracks For blood and Warre you ever wish To satisfie your lack And now my friend since that our King And Countrey rest in peace Forbeare to strike this jarring string From blood and brawls now cease But when by Law thou shalt be prest Obey the King alway Then thou shalt have my wishes best That thou maist winne the day Miles YOur words with me do now prevaile And this I adde beside In vain the shipman hoysts his Saile Against both Winde and Tyde And now I see you partly yield To Mars his honour right True fame obtained is in field When Souldiers bravely fight
A MILITARY Dialogue betweene PHILOMVSVS and MILES Lively expressing the horrible Effects of War and the unspeakable benefit of Peace Dulce bellum in expertis By Richard Carter LONDON Printed by John Okes and are to be sold at the white Lion in St. Pauls Church-yard MDCXL To the Reader health and happines REader retire thy selfe a while Where private thou mayst be And read although in rustick stile This Poem pend by me For Pan and Coridon gives light Like Phoebus now and then So truth shall spring and shine full bright From my illiterate pen Truth seeks no Trumpet for to sound She wants no pray so of man Good Wine we know it may be found Without a gay Garland Briefly therefore I shall declare The scope which I intend To shew the genuine fruits of warre And Peace with Truth commend The Souldier he would fight the field Fond Fame for to increase Philomusus doth cause him yield They both conclude in Peace Now least this Preface should exceed The Books and be too great No further here I will proceed And now I shut the gate Philomusus thus beginneth WHat suddain winde hath blown you back How comes this quick return Where are the spoyls of warre and wrack What ailes thee thus to mourn It lik'd thee not to bide at home And work from day to day But needs forsooth you must be gone A Souldiers part to play Why look'st thou thin why shougst thou so Why art thou thus arraid Do Souldiers in this habit go And with such wages paid Thou wents from hence in good attire And money in thy bag But back again thou dost retire Not with one comely rag Now for my part I love not jarres God send me health and peace I take no pleasure in the warres My fortunes to increase I hope your hotnesse at the first To follow Souldiers train Is cooled now you have no lust In warre to gad again Miles thus replyeth I Must confesse I do repent Before the time I thought And that I have by this attempt More losse then booty caught Yet blame I not the Warres therefore For Warre is such a gaine Some that were poore return with store Some rich come home with shame As for my losse was small I say For when I went from hence I hardly had where with to pay My charges and expence And thus I warred in this case In joy for hope of pay But Coyne was scarce and Warres did cease So home I took my way But as for you and all such like You flow in wealth at will I wonder not that you dislike The bloudy Warres so ill Your money cannot fight for you Can wealth defend the Land But such as I and all my crew Must in your quarrels stand You do of Souldiers base esteeme For we are abjects now The time will come it may be seen To Souldiers you may bow Philomusus respond WEll now I see you like it well Still idle to remain The more thou stirre the worse you smell The Proverbe speaketh plain An honest man some course will take To live upon some Trade And as we do our bargain make So is our wages paid If harme thou catch whose is the blame Not his that did thee hire For as thou dost thy wages claime So men thy work require Thou must not think to loyter then Most like the idle Drones Consuming that which other men Have got with painful groans These happy times were in my minde When all were well employd When hardly one we could not finde That idle did abide But idle persons now do shift Great multitudes do swarme Committing murther whoredome theft And every mortall harme One saith he gladly would take pains Yet work he will not seek If he one day in work remains Will play therefore a week Some wrap their legs with clouts and salve In corners where they lurk But Souldiers chiefly think they have A priviledge from work Thus vagrant Souldiers go and come Untill good Laws take place Then some reforme and other some Doe die with great disgrace And Souldiers do with ill intent Set all at five and nine And when your means you have all spent All others you repine If Souldiers can in warre I say All mortall pains embrace I nothing doubt but they that may Aswell take pains in peace For he that can doe nothing more But Peascods sheale they say Three quarters of a yeare therefore For want of worke must play Miles VVE Souldiers stand in all the strife For to defend the Land With Pikes and Gunnes and losse of life Your foes we doe withstand When we have passed all this harme With great distresse and cost Some one a Legge and some an Arme And other joynts have lost Yet nothing to us will you give But poore Nay and delay Our wants you will not once relieve But we must packe away Sometimes a sore or festered wound Lame souldiers may protect But such as I whose limbes be sound We live still in suspect For vagrant persons now we goe And scorned here and there So that in warre with mortall foe We live not in such feare And when a Souldier would take paines His service is refus'd But if from labour he refiaines He must not be excus'd If begge or steale the Law takes place Which way then shall we live If steale we doe dye with disgrace The Law will not forgive I thinke it better to embrace The Warre and purchase Fame Than thus to live in time of peace In such reproach and shame I can with Musquet travise so And tosse the tottering Pikes I know to skirmish with my foe And when I ought to strike I know to spurre the Barbed Horse And how to make my Race And warily my foes to course And valiently them chase I can well scale those fenced Walls Against which I am sent I want no skill when time thus falls Ambushments to prevent I know to keepe me in array To march and to retire And take advantage on the day When need shall so require I skilfull am how every wing In order should be plac'd For war-like Feasts in every thing I will not be out-fac'd These things are hard for Carpet Knights Who sleepe in ease and rest But Souldiers gaine though got in fights In time of Warre is best Philomusus OH boasting Thrasoe I thee heare How faine thou wouldst excuse Thy loytering life but stay forbeare Thou dost thy selfe abuse What man so mad or voyd of care Or of so little wit That doth not thinke the warres now are In time of peace unfit Warre doth disturbe and vexe each thing And order doth deface And doth dis-throne a right borne King Out of his Regall place Warre setteth in the selfe-same Throne Usurpers for to reigne The Lords and Peers then grieve and groan When Commons all are slaine The Virgins ravished most vild The new borne Infants dye The Father sees his murther'd child As he doth wounded lye The