Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	father_n	true_a	worshipper_n	2,259	5	11.6610	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A30899	Quakerism confirmed, or, A vindication of the chief doctrines and principles of the people called Qvakers from the arguments and objections of the students of divinity (so called) of Aberdeen in their book entituled Quakerism convassed [sic] by Robert Barclay and George Keith.	Barclay, Robert, 1648-1690.; Keith, George, 1639?-1716.	1676 (1676)	Wing B733; ESTC R37061	83,121	93

pay it with for his want of the money doth not excuse him from the obligation to pay it yet he ought to pay the debt only with money or the equivalent of it but if he should offer to pay it with any thing that is not money nor moneys worth as suppose with a few counters this is no answering the obligation either in the right matter or manner and so it is in the case in hand Again N. 8. They fall into the like prevarication in alledging the question is not about a new heart and spirituall principle of obedience for they owne that as indispensably necessary for acceptable performance But do not they say that when men pray without a new heart they do in part answer the obligation and do not they encourage them to pray even the most wicked This is denyed by the people called Quakers and is a great part of the question We say indeed wicked men ought to pray but not remaining wicked but that they ought to forsake their wickednesse and have a new heart and therewith to pray Moreover whereas they say the question is not about every performance but about acceptable performance Herein they most palpably contradict themselves N. 9. where they grant that no act of worship can be acceptably performed withot these influences and they wel know that the Qu say the same the question then is not about acceptable performance seing both they and we grant that no duty can be acceptably performed without the Spirit so that if the Students had understood their matter they would have said the question is not about acceptable performance but about simple performance whether there be any obligation to performe duty that is not acceptable which they affirme and we deny for indeed unacceptable performance is as good as no performance but rather worse as if under the Law the Jewes had offered up a dogs neck in place of a sacrifice it had been a greater sin then not to offer at all As it is a greater offence for a man to offer to pay his debt with counters or pennies made of slait-stone then not to pay at all Another grosse errour they committ in alledging the question is about praeparatory motions praevious in time this is a lye we challenge them to shew us any such thing in our books we doe not require motions or influences of the Spirit previous in time although they are oft given it sufficeth that they are previous in order of nature as the cause is previous unto the effect which is not alwayes in time but in nature but the question is indeed about the necessity of motions to and in the performance of duty so as the performance is to be in by through and with the Spirit which may wel be without a praeviousuesse in time as to inward duty at least and if the outward can be simultaneous with the inward it may also be as to the outward but if it can not be so soone as the inward in some cases the reason is not for want of the motion but because the bodily organs can not so hastily answer the motion as the mind it selfe can and it sufficiently answereth the motion that the mind answer it first and then the bodily organs as soone as their nature can permitt There is yet another great errour they committ in alledging such a lively and spirituall disposition as being necessary in our sense whereas we doe not lay it upon such a lively c as if we required such a degree of life for the least measure of life that is but able to carry forth the soul in any living measure of performance is sufficient where the soul keepeth to the measure and doth not exceed or goe beyond it In the prosecution of their arguments they are no lesse unhappy in the stating of the question as will shortly appeare Pag. 95. 67. they bring in R B. and A. Sk. denying their sequel which they laboure to prove but how unsuccessfully we shall see anon becaus as angels and bruts agree in that they are both substances so spirituall duties and other duties agree in that they are both to be performed in the Spirit But what then Yet the difference is still great betwixt those duties that as to their matter are naturall and civill and those which as to their very matter are spirituall as for example to eat to plough to pay a debt are not spirituall as to their matter but only as to their manner and end when acceptably performed and therefore the matter of those duties and whole substance of them may be without any gracious motion of the Spirit and in that case the performances themselves are really profitable in the creation among men and consequently doe answer the obligation in part but prayer and thanksgiving c are duties wholly spirituall both as to matter or substance and as to manner and end so that whoso essayeth to doe any of them without the gracious motions of the Spirit he leaveth not only the right manner but the very matter and substance of the duty behind him and bringeth the meer accidents along with him which have no profit nor use to men nor are any wise in the least part an answer of the obligation and as to that Scripture cited by them the plowing of the wicked is sin Prov. 21 4. they do not prove that it is meant of outward plowing the margin of our English hath it the light of the wicked and Arius Montanus rendreth it on the margine cogitatio the thought that the plowing of the wicked is sin in respect of the manner and lastend we grant but that the action materially considered is sin we altogether deny even in a wicked man for the outward mechanick and bodily act is good in its nature and profitable as also in so farr as it may be for the maintainance of his family it is good so that in respect of the matter and subordinate end there is no difference betwixt the plowing of a good man and a wicked whereas the prayer of a good man by the Spirit and the prayer of a wicked man without the Spirit differ materially in their very nature and substance the good mans prayer by the Spirit is true and reall prayer but the wicked mans prayer is no true prayer at all but a dead image of it nor is the wicked man a true worshipper for he only is a true worshipper according unto the expresse doctrine of Christ who worships the Father in Spirit and in truth whereas a wicked mans plowing is as reall and true and good as to the matter and nature of the outward action as that of the good It doth not therefore follow that according to the Q. principle because a man is not to pray without the Spirit that therefore he is not to plow without the Spirit in respect of the matter although in respect of the defect in the manner and last end which should be