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A54048	A question to the professors of Christianity, whether they have the true, living, powerful saving knowledge of Christ or no? with some queries concerning Christ, and his appearances, his taking upon him our flesh : as also concerning his flesh and blood, and our being formed thereof, and feeding thereon, and an incitation to professors seriously to consider, whether they or we fail, in the true acknowledgment and owning of the Christ which died at Jerusalem : likewise some propositions and considerations concerning the nature of church-worships and ordinances, since the death of the apostles, for the sake of simplicity, which hath been long held captive therein : with the sounding of bowels towards thee, O England : also a faithful guidance to the principle and path of truth, with some sensible experimental questions and answers from the tenth chapter of John / by Isaac Penington ...	Penington, Isaac, 1616-1679.	1667 (1667)	Wing P1184; ESTC R18236	42,725	54

the spiritually living are ingrafted As the Father is the Husbandman so is not the Son the Vine And hath not this spiritual this eternal Vine in it juice and sap of an eternal Nature and is not this sap its blood Quer. 28. Is there not a choice Vine to which the Foal and Asses Colt of the Seed of Judah is tyed and are not the Garments and Cloaths of the true Jews washed in the Wine and in the Blood of the Grapes of this Vine Gen. 49.11 Quer. 29. What is that which the earthly Nature slayes and what is the Blood which the earthly Nature shall disclose and the slain which it shall no more cover Quer. 30. What are the Robes which are washed and made white in the Blood of the Lamb and how are they washed and made white therein and what is the Blood of what Nature earthly or spiritual wherein they are washed and made white Quer. 31. What is it to have or how come we to have fellowship with Christ in his death and to suffer and be crucified with him Is it by having our natural Bodies crucified on the same Cross of Wood or some such like one as his Body was crucified on or by having the fleshly Nature crucified subdued and worn out of our Souls Minds Spirits c. by the Power of the Spirit Rom. 8.13 Now if the flesh we are to put off be of such a nature and kind to wit inwardly and spiritually corrupt must not the flesh of Christ which we are to put on instead thereof be of as deep inward and spiritual a Nature What is the flesh whereof we are to be uncloathed before we can be cloathed with Christ Is it outward or bodily And what is Christs flesh we are to put on is that any more outward or bodily then that which we are to put off Quer. 32. Is not the flesh and blood which they that have eternal Life feed on and which nourisheth them up to Life eternal they continuing to feed thereon and not feeding afterwards on strange flesh and strange blood I say is not this flesh and blood Spirit and Life For that is it which profiteth John 6.63 Is it not the flesh and blood of the Word Was not the Word made flesh and did not the Word who was made flesh dwell and appear in a Tabernacle of flesh and cause the Glory of his own divine Flesh to shine through that earthly flesh O read and consider that ye who have stumbled and murmured against the Truth may stumble or murmur no more but now at length receive the pure and pretious Doctrine thereof and so come to witness the fulfilling of that Promise Isa 29.18 v. 24. and praise him who giveth understanding Quer. 33. Is not the true Church flesh of Christs flesh and bone of his bone Is not the false or Antichristian Church flesh of Antichrists flesh and bone of Antichrists bone What is the flesh of the spiritual Whore which is to be stripped naked and burnt with fire Shall ever the Church which is of Christs flesh be stripped naked and burnt with fire Nay doth not his flesh make able to abide the devouring fire and to dwell with the everlasting burnings Quer. 34. What is the pure Milk of the VVord which is milked out to the Babes from the pure Breast and what is the Breast from which it is milked out is it of the flesh of Christ or no Quer. 35. Are not the wicked of the seed and flesh of the Serpent Is not that the Body of flesh of sin of death which is to be put off And are not they who are renewed in spirit of the Seed and Flesh of Christ is not that the Body or Garment of Holiness of Righteousness of Life which is to be put on Quer. 36. Is it not as necessary that the eternal VVord be made flesh inwardly that so the Children may feed on him as it was for him to take on him an outward body of flesh to suffer and die for them and to fulfil all Righteousness both of the Law of the Letter and of the Law of the Spirit in Quer. 37. Is there not that which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt and do not they which dwell there instead of eating Christs Flesh and drinking his Blood put his flesh to pain crucifying it in and to themselves trampling under foot the Son of God and counting the Blood of the Covenant an unholy thing Read the Figure Did not outward Israel suffer in outward Egypt Did not just Lot suffer in Sodom Doth not the spiritual Seed suffer in and by spiritual Egypt Doth not the Flesh of the Holy and just One suffer in and by spiritual Sodom Quer. 38. What is that which the Gentile-Christians who are not Jews inward circumcised in heart and spirit who know not the inward Temple the place of the true Jews worship where they worship the Father in Spirit and Truth but only worship in the outward Court which God hath cast off and left out of his measure Rev. 11.2 I say What is that Holy City which these Gentiles tread under foot forty two months Is it the Church which is of the Flesh and Bones of Christ or no He that knoweth the substance the Seed of the Kingdom the Birth of the Spirit knoweth the Flesh and Blood which is of the Seed And this Flesh is Flesh indeed this Blood is Blood indeed even the Flesh and Blood of the Seeds Nature but the other was but the Flesh and Blood of our Nature which he honoured in taking upon him in which he did the Will in which he offered up the acceptable Sacrifice but yet did not give the honour from his own Flesh and Blood to it For the Flesh and Blood of our Nature was not his own naturally but only as he pleased to take it upon him and make it his But that whereof he formeth us and which he giveth us to eat and drink is the Flesh and Blood of his own Nature And this was it wherein was the Virtue and wherein is the Virtue Life and Power for ever Happy O happy is he who is of it who is taken out of and formed of him as Eve was of Adam and so becomes Flesh of his Flesh and Bone of his Bone Then will he know the Mystery of Life feed on the thing it self and not stumble about appearances and expressions as those that are out of and from the thing it self do through the darkness of their mind and because of their ignorance of the thing spoken of in the Scriptures An Incitation to Professors seriously to consider Whether they or we fail in the true acknowledgment and owning of the Christ which died at Jerusalem WE who are commonly called Quakers being a People whom the Lord hath gathered out of the wandrings out of the many Professions out of the several scattered estates and conditions wherein his Eye pittied us and his love found us out into a

while he was here on Earth yet was not excluded from being in Heaven with the Father at the very same time as he himself said concerning himself The Son of Man which is in Heaven John 3.13 Nor was the Father excluded from being with him in the Body but the Father was in him and he in the Father whereupon he said to Philip He that hath seen me hath seen the Father What did every on that saw that Body see the Father also Nay not so but be that saw Christ the Son of the living God whom flesh and blood revealed not but the Father only Mat. 16.16 17. he saw the Father also O Friends look to your knowledge of Christ and to your Faith and Knowledge of the Scriptures and to your Prayers also for it is easie missing of the living substance in all these and meeting with a shadow which may please and make a great shew in the earthly part in the natural understanding and affections but satisfieth not the Soul or that which is born after the Spirit but still the cry there goes out where the Soul is awakened after Truth Substance Life Virtue from Gods Spirit in the Spirit which it alone can feed upon These four things following I am certain of which he that cometh into the true Light shall infallibly experience them there First That nothing can save but the knowledge of Christ even of that very Christ and no other who took upon him the prepared Body and offered it up at Jerusalem Secondly That no Knowledge of Christ can save but the living Knowledge Not a knowledge of him after the Letter which the carnal part may get much of and value it self much by but a knowledge of him in the Spirit which is only given to that which is begotten and born of the Spirit and only retained by that which abides and remains in the Spirit and runs not out into the fleshly reasonings imaginings and conceivings about the things mentioned in the Scriptures Thirdly That that man who knoweth not Christ in Spirit nor keepeth close to him in Spirit but through darkness and misguidance of the spirit of deceit calleth the shinings of his Light his reproofs his checks for that which is evil and his secret motions to that which is good natural This man though he seem to own Christ never so much according to the Letter yet in Truth denies him Fourthly He that denies Christ in his knocking 's and visitations of him in his own heart and before men in the Truths which he holds forth by his Servants and Ministers of his Spirit him will he deny before his Father in Heaven O I beseech you do not trifle about these things for they are exceeding weighty lest ye perish from the way for missing of the Saviour ye must needs also miss of the Salvation O that ye knew your state as God knows it to be and as it is ceatainly known and felt in the measure of his Life and holy Spirit by those whom God hath gathered together and whose eyes he hath opened and preserveth open there Glory be to his Name therefore Yea Glory Glory Glory and everlasting Praises be sung to him throughout all the holy Land yea in the very heights of Sion by the Souls of the Redeemed from henceforth and for evermore Amen whose Mercy Love Grace Wisdom Power and rich Goodness remaineth and endureth for ever by and in which the Redeemed live to his Praise who have overcome by the Blood of the Lamb whose Blood they know what it is and none else knoweth it but they who feel the sprinkling and virtue of it Lo this is our God we have waited for him and how can we but be glad and rejoyce in his Salvation O let all that live by the breath of thy Power and drink of thy Streams sing praise unto Thee and exalt thy great and wonderful Name for ever and ever Some Propositions and Considerations concerning the nature of Church-Worships and Ordinances since the dayes of the Apostles for the sake of the Simplicity which hath been long held captive therein HE that would know the true state of the Church and Ordinances thereof must wait upon God in fear and humility of heart who alone is able to give the true knowledge and understanding of these things And he that cometh to the Spirit waiteth in the Spirit and receiveth the true Light from the Spirit he shall be able to measure Ages and Generations past as with a span and see clearly in that Light how things were before the Apostacy while the Church was in the Wilderness and how things shall be again after the Apostacy when the Church cometh out of the Wilderness She her self is the same in all but her state is different according to the wisdom and good pleasure of him who variously disposeth of her One while she is cloathed appearing in the beauty and glorious dress which the Lord had put upon her Another while she is stripped of her outward Garments and the Harlot dressed therewith and appearing therein After which season she is adorned again as gloriously if not more gloriously then before but whether ever she appears more in those Garments wherein the Harlot had been dressed and wherein she had long appeared even all the time of the Apostacy the Lord would be enquired of and waited on to know Now to help the tender and upright hearts towards the true sense of these things the Propositions and Considerations following are given forth which he that sincerely waiteth on the Lord from him may receive the true understanding and right acknowledgment of 1. That upon the coming of Christ and the change of that outward Covenant the distinction betwen the outward Jew and Gentile fell they becoming all one as in relation to Christ and then another distinction arose in relation to the Faith Believers becoming Jews now and unbelievers Gentiles 2. That these true inward Jews had not only the inward Faith the Life the Power the Spirit but also a Ministry Ordinances and gifts of the Spirit relating to their present state 3. That there was a time after a long and sharp fight between the true Ministers who appered in the true Light and Power of the true Spirit and the false Ministers who also appeared as Ministers of Righteousness and as in the Power of the Spirit but were not such indeed but instructed by Satan to transform themselves into a resemblance and likeness of Ministers of Righteousness For though they said they were Apostles and seemed so in appearance yet their Spirit being tried was found not to be the Spirit of the Apostles I say there was a time when there was a division or separation made between the inward Temple and the outward Court 4. That when this division was made the outward Court was given to the Gentiles not any longer reserved by God for the true worshippers who worship in Spirit and Truth but given to the unbelievers the

worshippers out of the true Faith the worshippers out of the Spirit and out of the Life 5. That henceforward since this separation the Believers or true Jews are not to be expected in the outward Court in the worship thereof wherein they were found before this separation but the unbelievers the Gentiles who have not the true Nature but at best but the appearance of the Jew are to be expected there and the true Jew is to be looked for and found more inward 6. That therefore which allureth to look for God there and to wait for him in the wayes and worships of that Court all this time of the separation is not the true Spirit which rightly guideth the simple heart to the place where God appears and where he is to be waited for but the wrong spirit who when he cannot stifle the simplicity and hinder it from breathing and seeking after God waits to draw aside and mislead it 7. That the great way of that spirits misguiding and misleading the honest heart in its breathing and longing state is not by a direct taking it off from seeking after God but rather by pointing it to a way to seek him in wherein he once appeared and was enjoyed but is now withdrawn from 8. He that will keep close to God and not be withdrawn from him must watch to his Spirit and know the leadings of it else he will not follow the Lamb whithersoever he goes but stay behind in some observation or practice which the Lamb is gone out of and so miss of his Leader and meet instead thereof with another Leader even the spirit of Antichrist who enters into the outward Court and outward practises so soon as ever the Spirit of God hath left them 9. That Gods People since his withdrawing inward and giving the outward Court to the Gentiles have been much deceived by the Antichristian Spirit and led captive into Babylon in so much as God when he cometh to overthrow Antichrist with the Babylon of his building finds them there and calls them out from thence For the light growing low and the deceit great and that spirit subtile how can the poor weak innocent Babe espy that spirit and escape his snares when he tempts to those very paths and wayes of worship wherein the Saints had walked and met with God before the Spirit of the Lord departed out of them and gave them up to the Gentiles 10. That there is danger to the People of God of not understanding his Call out of Babylon but abiding there through the subtile entanglements of the false spirit who bewitcheth with the Cup of Fornication to make Babylon appear as Sion her doctrines as the Truths of the Gospel her ordinances and wayes of worship as the true Ordinances and wayes of Worship For the deceit is exceeding deep and the mystery of iniquity very great following that heart close which the Lord is drawing to depart therefrom and if the Lord God were not strong and vigilant who judgeth the Whore she would still keep her hold of the heart and if the heart be not kept very close to the Lord in the Judgement it cannot come out of Babylon but will still be entangled and held in some part or other of the mystery of its deceit 11. Such of the People of God as do not wait to understand and receive the full Call and so do not follow the Lord perfectly out of that City of Abominations but by her subtilties and inward or outward witchcrafts are held captive therein and found in any part thereof when the Lord cometh to judge her such must partake of her Plagues from the hand of the Lord who will not spare her nor the spirits of his dearest People who are found there in the day of his visitation and righteous judgments Therefore come out of her come out of her O ye that love your Souls and the pure Presence and fresh Light of Gods countenance Ye that know what it is to provoke him to jealousy and fear the weight of his hand upon your spirits ye that love the holy Land the holy City and Temple of the living God O come out of that impure building that fleshly building those fleshly wayes and worships which that spirit adorneth to make them appear as if they were spiritual O depart ye depart ye out of your new removes for they are also polluted and not your rest but short of that wherein the Rest the Peace the Presence of the Lord of Life is felt by others and to be found by you And consider this if ever ye will come to the holy City which was once built in the dayes of the Apostles but since the division of it from the outward Court hath been trodden down and trampled under the feet of the unbelievers even while they have been worshipping in the outward Court which God once built and chose but afterwards withdrew his Spirit from and gave up to the unbelievers I say if ever ye will come to this holy City the holy Land wherein it is built and the holy Hill whereon it is founded ye must pass through the Wilderness be exercised in the Wilderness even till ye are fitted for it and not strive to raise up a building your selves in the likeness of it but wait till God hath hewen and prepared the stones by his Spirit and then by the skil of the same spirit build up his Sion again Therefore in the fear of the Lord consider seriously meekly humbly and brokenly that the Lord may manifest your present state and condition unto you Whether ye have not erred in these things as well as others and have not cause to repent of your forwardness herein and to acknowledge that your buildings have been raised in the forwardness of your own spirits and in the confidence of your reasonings upon Scripture-words without feeling the presence guidance and holy Power of Gods Spirit raising up the Foundation of many Generations and rearing his own pure House upon his own holy Mountain In the Lords hand is the time and season of building his own house David though his desire was approved yet might not build the outward Temple in the time of his choice but Gods time and season was to be waited for both for the first building and for the rebuilding of it There is likewise a season for the rebuilding of Spiritual Sion after the long captivity of it in Mystery-Babylon Now he that is forward building before the time and season of the Spirit buildeth without the Spirit and his building is not of the Spirit but of the nature of Babylon which is wholly to be departed from and left behind in the Souls travels and progress towards Sion And what ever is of the nature of Babylon must at length fall with Babylon in the day of her terrible Judgement if the Lord in mercy do not shake it and cause it to fall before Therefore O all Professor awaken out of the flesh

Moses told that before to wit by the Word nigh in the mouth and heart There is somewhat near man even in his mouth which divides his words one from another shewing him at sometimes and would do it oftner if he heeded it which are bad words and which are good words What is that that doth this The same thing also is in his heart as a discerner of the thoughts and intents thereof shewing him when there is a good thought desire or intention in his mind and when there is a bad or wicked one What is this O that men knew what it is O that they could fear the Lord and become subject to it and they should know what it is Every man that will be sanctified and inherit Gods Kingdom must be born of the Will of God He must deny his own Will as Christ did Not my Will said he Father but thine be done that must be crucified He must suffer in the flesh die to the flesh and live in and to the holy Nature and Spirit of God Now thus a man comes to be born of the pure Will to wit by hearing the Word nigh in the mouth and heart and becoming subject to it This cuts down his own will day by day and brings up the Will and Nature of God in him through which he is changed and sanctified and becometh a new Creature For the old Creature is made up of the old understanding and will but the new Creature is made up of the new Wherewithall shall a young man cleanse his way By taking heed according to thy Word saith David What Word was that Was it the Word of the old Covenant or the Word nigh in the mouth and heart And Thy Word saith he is a Lanthorn to my Feet and a light to my Path. What Word was that the Word of the first Covenant or the Word of the second The Law of the Lord is perfect converting the Soul What Law is that The Testimony of the Lord is sure making wise the simple What Testimony is that The Statutes of the Lord are right rejoycing the heart What Statutes are they were not the Statutes of the old Covenant heavy and burthensome The Commandment of the Lord is pure enlightning the eyes What Commandment is that Yea what is that which is sweeter than the Honey the Honey-comb which overcomes with its sweetness O that men could read O that men could see the thing which is pure and maketh pure which is righteous and maketh righteous After men have seen the thing there is a great way to travel to it but how far are they off who do not so much as see it but are in the darkness and prejudices of that Nature and Spirit which is contrary to it Now if the Lord in his tender mercy and love to thy Soul bring thee to a sense of this thing thou beginnest to feel this precious searching Word discovering any evil to thee either in thy heart or wayes O do not dispute do not reason against it but bless the discoverer bow to the Son become obedient immediately faithfully following the Lamb therein lest he remove his Light from thee and suffer darkness and the disputing wisdom to overtake thee Christ is not of the World and he leads out of the World Out of its vanities wayes customs fashions c. A man cannot serve Christ and the World Can any man be born of the Father be begotten by him out of the Spirit of the World and yet live in that walk in that which is not of the Father but of the World which came from the worldly part is of the worldly part nourisheth and pleaseth the worldly part in man but pleaseth not the Father Can that man who is not of the World but of the Father do any thing that upholdeth the lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes or the pride of life either in himself or others Doth not the Spirit of the Lord where it is hearkened to draw out of these and out of all things which are of these Therefore consider well what it will cost and how hard it is to follow Christ that thou who desirest to be the Lords mayest receive help and strength from him to be faithful that in his strength thou mayest overcome all that stands between thee and Life that so thou mayest receive the Crown and inherit the Kingdom which is prepared for and given to the Faithful who labour and fight not in vain but gain ground and conquer yea at length become more then conquerors through the Mercy Love Might and Power of the Lord. Some sensible experimental Questions and Answers from the tenth Chapter of John Question 1. WHO is the good Shepherd of the Sheep Answ The Wisdom Life and Power of the Father which dwelleth in and is manifest through the Son is the Shepherd He that is the Truth the Way and the Life he also is the Shepherd and Bishop of the Soul Quest 2. Who are the Sheep Answ They that are born of this Wisdom gathered by this Life turned to this Power they are the Sheep They who are changed by him into his Nature they are of him Sheep of him the Shepherd Lambs of him the Lamb Doves of him the Dove Quest 3. Which is the Fold of the Sheep Answ The Wisdom Life and Power of the Father even the same that is the Shepherd The Fathers Hand wherewith he covers them wherein he incloseth them that is the Fold For it is the Power Wisdom and Life of the Father which gathereth the Sheep and he gathereth them into his Power into his Wisdom into his Life and that is a Wall or Fold about them Object Is not the Church the Fold Answ This in the Church or the Church in this is the Fold but not out of this For there is no safety or preservation among any sort or gathering of people but as they stand and abide in this And standing and abiding in this they have Authority and Power from the chief Bishop of the Soul but none out of this Quest 4. Who is the Door Answ The Shepherd is the Door also who lets into the Fold and shuts out at his pleasure and none can rightly enter but by him Quest 5. What are they that run before the Power or farther than the Power leads and guides them Answ They are Thieves and Robbers and they may destroy the life and freshness in those that are not watchful but they cannot help to save or build up because they themselves are out of that come out of that and act out of that which alone can do it Quest 6. How may the Sheep be discerned from the Goats and from such also as put on the Sheeps cloathing but yet are not sheep in Nature and Spirit Answ By their Lamb-like Nature by the meekness and innocency in them which is of the Lamb which none can have but they that are of him for it is not to be found in