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A29753 Quakerisme the path-way to paganisme, or, A vieu of the Quakers religion being an examination of the theses and apologie of Robert Barclay, one of their number, published lately in Latine, to discover to the world, what that is, which they hold and owne for the only true Christian religion / by John Brown ... Brown, John, 1610?-1679.; R. M. C. 1678 (1678) Wing B5033; ESTC R10085 718,829 590

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yet_o once_o more_o 12._o i_o will_v ask_v why_o it_o be_v that_o in_o his_o thesis_n he_o give_v we_o no_o account_n of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o body_n nor_o of_o the_o last_o judgement_n he_o can_v say_v that_o the_o knowledge_n and_o faith_n of_o these_o particular_n be_v not_o necessary_a unless_o he_o be_v of_o the_o same_o opinion_n with_o other_o quaker_n who_o either_o speak_v dubious_o thereof_o or_o do_v down_o right_o deny_v it_o mr._n hicks_n show_v we_o in_o his_o book_n call_v the_o quaker_n appeal_v answer_v pag_n 21._o that_o one_o whitehead_n assert_v in_o the_o hear_n of_o many_o witness_n that_o this_o body_n shall_v not_o rise_v again_o and_o that_o will._n pen_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v reas._o against_o rail_n pag._n 133._o say_v that_o it_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o scripture_n reason_n and_o the_o belief_n of_o all_o man_n right_a in_o their_o wit_n and_o pag._n 134._o that_o the_o absurdity_n of_o the_o transubstantiation_n be_v rather_o outdo_v than_o equal_v by_o this_o carnal_a resurrection_n and_o that_o pag._n 138._o he_o call_v it_o a_o barbarous_a conceit_n shall_v i_o think_v that_o this_o our_o apologizer_n be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n if_o not_o it_o concern_v he_o to_o speak_v more_o positive_o thereunto_o for_o his_o silence_n will_v go_v for_o a_o approbation_n of_o what_o his_o party_n speak_v express_o and_o further_o as_o concern_v the_o last_o judgement_n we_o may_v suppose_v that_o such_o as_o look_v on_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a as_o a_o figment_n will_v give_v no_o place_n in_o their_o creed_n unto_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n come_n again_o to_o judge_v quick_a and_o dead_a and_o indeed_o i_o find_v in_o the_o second_o dialogue_n of_o mr._n hicks_n pag_n 42_o 43_o that_o whitehead_n in_o his_o christ_n ascend_v pag._n 18_o 20_o 21_o 69._o deny_v that_o christ_n have_v a_o personal_a be_v at_o the_o right-hand_a of_o god_n without_o all_o man_n and_o pag._n 2d_o that_o he_o deny_v that_o 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this_o be_v no_o force_n upon_o conscience_n but_o a_o put_n of_o people_n to_o duty_n 3._o so_o then_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o the_o sword_n be_v a_o mean_n of_o conversion_n of_o man_n to_o the_o true_a faith_n nor_o whether_o heathen_n be_v to_o be_v compel_v by_o the_o magistrate_n sword_n to_o embrace_v the_o truth_n nor_o yet_o whether_o the_o inward_a opinion_n of_o the_o mind_n can_v be_v punish_v by_o the_o magistrate_n but_o the_o only_a question_n lie_v here_o whether_o the_o magistrate_n can_v by_o his_o power_n punish_v and_o restrain_v open_a idolater_n &_o false_a worshipper_n false_a teacher_n perverter_n of_o the_o right_a way_n of_o the_o lord_n seducer_n of_o soul_n corrupter_n or_o denier_n of_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n open_a
who_o can_v not_o understand_v these_o question_n and_o this_o will_v justify_v he_o in_o persecute_v the_o christian_n for_o he_o act_v according_a to_o his_o knowledge_n ans._n 1._o and_o be_v there_o not_o many_o question_n in_o moral_a thing_n as_o our_o quaker_n call_v all_o civil_a matter_n that_o be_v hard_a and_o difficile_a for_o every_o magistrate_n shall_v he_o therefore_o be_v no_o magistrate_n have_v power_n to_o judge_v in_o any_o particular_a who_o can_v understand_v all_o the_o intrigus_fw-la of_o every_o question_n and_o controversy_n see_v deut._n 17_o 12._o if_o this_o argument_n hold_v many_o command_n must_v be_v lay_v by_o as_o that_o give_v to_o every_o master_n of_o a_o family_n 2_o joh._n 10._o and_o these_o 1_o cor._n 5_o 11._o rom._n 16_o 17_o 18._o and_o the_o like_a for_o every_o person_n be_v not_o sufficient_o qualify_v in_o these_o matter_n 2._o though_o nero_n be_v here_o include_v yet_o he_o alone_o be_v not_o here_o understand_v and_o so_o though_o he_o be_v a_o heathen_a be_v not_o qualify_v to_o judge_v heretic_n in_o christianity_n christian_a magistrate_n be_v qualify_v may_v judge_v and_o shall_v judge_v such_o evil_a doer_n magistrate_n as_o such_o have_v power_n to_o judge_v evil_a doer_n some_o magistrate_n in_o particular_a can_v judge_v of_o some_o particular_a evil_a doer_n yet_o other_o who_o can_v may_v and_o aught_o father_n as_o father_n be_v to_o teach_v and_o instruct_v their_o child_n gen._n 18_o 18_o 19_o exod._n 12_o 26_o 27._o ephes._n 6_o 4._o 2_o tim._n 3_o 14_o 15._o prov._n 4_o 3_o 4_o 5._o yet_o heathen_a father_n can_v teach_v gospel_n doctrine_n shall_v therefore_o christian_a father_n be_v exeme_v from_o this_o duty_n it_o follow_v not_o 3._o hence_o no_o ground_n to_o justify_v nero_n in_o persecute_v the_o truth_n no_o more_o then_o for_o a_o ignorant_a magistrate_n to_o kill_v a_o innocent_a man_n as_o guilty_a of_o murder_n because_o he_o so_o judge_v through_o want_n of_o understanding_n 15._o he_o adduce_v next_o gal._n 5_o 12._o and_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o prove_v no_o more_o than_o that_o such_o shall_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o church_n by_o excommunication_n ans._n i_o shall_v urge_v it_o no_o further_o as_o also_o that_o revel_n 2_o 20._o when_o it_o be_v say_v that_o heresy_n be_v reckon_v among_o the_o work_n of_o the_o flesh_n gal._n 5_o 19_o he_o tell_v we_o pag._n 321._o that_o magistrate_n may_v not_o punish_v all_o the_o work_n of_o the_o flesh_n as_o hypocrisy_n anger_n envy_n hatred_n and_o we_o grant_v this_o yet_o heresy_n be_v a_o work_n of_o the_o flesh_n that_o be_v open_a and_o apparent_a &_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o witness_n and_o evidence_n but_o these_o latent_fw-la evil_n can_v as_o neither_o can_v heresy_n that_o be_v latent_fw-la in_o the_o heart_n but_o than_o it_o can_v be_v call_v proper_o heresy_n but_o he_o say_v that_o heresy_n fall_v not_o under_o the_o magistrate_n authority_n as_o long_o as_o it_o break_v not_o forth_o to_o the_o hurt_n of_o humane_a society_n but_o only_o abide_v within_o these_o duty_n of_o doctrine_n and_o worshipe_n that_o stand_v immediate_o betwixt_o god_n and_o man_n yet_o if_o these_o duty_n of_o doctrine_n and_o worshipe_n wherein_o this_o heresy_n consist_v appear_v open_o and_o how_o opinion_n lie_v in_o the_o heart_n can_v be_v call_v doctrine_n and_o worshipe_n i_o see_v not_o they_o tend_v to_o the_o hurt_n of_o humane_a society_n as_o be_v of_o a_o infect_v nature_n and_o a_o god-provoking_a evil_n and_o so_o be_v tolerate_v or_o connive_v at_o become_v the_o evil_a and_o guilt_n of_o the_o whole_a society_n before_o god_n and_o render_v all_o obnoxious_a to_o his_o wrath_n who_o be_v not_o in_o their_o place_n and_o station_n seek_v to_o root_v it_o out_o 16._o pass_v all_o the_o rest_n of_o our_o argument_n he_o come_v pag._n 322._o §_o 4._o to_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o compulsion_n of_o conscience_n be_v contrare_fw-la to_o sound_a reason_n and_o to_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n and_o in_o this_o he_o beat_v the_o air_n for_o we_o speak_v not_o of_o such_o a_o compulsion_n as_o he_o imagine_v we_o know_v as_o well_o as_o he_o that_o the_o intellect_n can_v be_v force_v but_o we_o be_v speak_v of_o outward_a action_n and_o word_n speak_v by_o the_o tongue_n which_o can_v be_v suppress_v and_o which_o if_o not_o suppress_v be_v noxious_a and_o hurtful_a we_o know_v the_o magistrate_n sword_n can_v convert_v yet_o it_o can_v drive_v away_o ravenous_a wolf_n and_o punish_v evil_a deed_n we_o know_v the_o civil_a sword_n can_v make_v sincere_a professor_n yet_o it_o can_v keep_v person_n from_o blaspheme_a god_n and_o his_o truth_n if_o to_o make_v law_n for_o preserve_v of_o religion_n be_v against_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n how_o come_v it_o that_o heathen_n that_o have_v no_o other_o light_n do_v make_v such_o law_n as_o historian_n witness_v such_o as_o plutarch_n livy_n justin_n diogenes_n laertius_n caelius_n diodorus_n siculus_n herodotus_n xenophon_n and_o other_o seneca_n de_fw-fr benefic_n lib._n 3._o c._n 6._o be_v express_v for_o this_o say_v violatarum_fw-la religionum_fw-la aliubi_fw-la atque_fw-la aliubi_fw-la diversa_fw-la poena_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la ubique_fw-la aliqua_fw-la and_o all_o this_o way_n of_o argue_v will_v take_v away_o the_o church_n censure_n which_o yet_o he_o have_v grant_v for_o they_o can_v true_o convert_v but_o rather_o make_v hypocrite_n and_o then_o let_v this_o man_n answer_v all_o his_o own_o argument_n he_o infer_v pag._n 323._o this_o absurdity_n that_o christ_n be_v deficient_a in_o not_o use_v legion_n of_o angel_n to_o defend_v his_o church_n but_o how_o this_o will_v follow_v upon_o our_o assertion_n i_o desire_v he_o to_o show_v he_o ma●_n with_o more_o colour_n say_v that_o if_o god_n have_v give_v power_n to_o magistrate_n to_o punish_v civil_a crime_n he_o shall_v be_v deficient_a to_o humane_a society_n in_o not_o make_v all_o magistrate_n wise_a as_o angel_n to_o understand_v the_o mystery_n of_o all_o question_n but_o it_o become_v we_o to_o adore_v and_o not_o call_v god_n to_o our_o bar_n the_o next_o absurdity_n which_o he_o mention_v have_v be_v speak_v to_o already_o for_o our_o doctrine_n give_v no_o countenance_n to_o persecution_n for_o righteousness_n sake_n and_o he_o may_v hence_o as_o well_o argue_v that_o magistrate_n may_v not_o punish_v murderer_n because_o hereby_o they_o teach_v murderer_n to_o pursue_v they_o when_o they_o have_v power_n in_o their_o hand_n nor_o do_v our_o doctrine_n give_v ground_n to_o say_v that_o as_o heathen_n persecute_v christian_n with_o fire_n and_o sword_n christian_n when_o they_o have_v power_n shall_v deal_v so_o with_o heathen_n so_o that_o all_o that_o which_o he_o say_v pag._n 323_o &_o 324._o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n because_o man_n in_o power_n abuse_v their_o authority_n to_o suppress_v truth_n it_o will_v never_o follow_v that_o magistrate_n shall_v not_o use_v their_o power_n to_o suppress_v wickedness_n and_o error_n that_o eat_v as_o do_v a_o canker_n so_o a_o heretical_a church_n may_v excommunicate_v a_o orthodox_n person_n yet_o he_o himself_o will_v not_o hence_o infer_v that_o a_o orthodox_n church_n may_v not_o cast_v out_o of_o their_o fellowshipe_n a_o heretical_a person_n as_o we_o see_v above_o 17._o the_o say_n of_o some_o father_n which_o he_o adduce_v pag._n 325._o &_o 3●6_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n for_o we_o willing_o grant_v that_o christianity_n be_v not_o to_o be_v propagate_v by_o fire_n and_o sword_n and_o that_o minister_n ought_v not_o to_o use_v violence_n and_o none_o of_o these_o father_n say_v that_o christian_a professor_n shall_v not_o be_v punish_v by_o christian_a magistrate_n when_o they_o open_o practice_v false_a worship_n and_o seduce_v other_o by_o error_n and_o heresy_n open_o vent_v and_o preach_v and_o what_o they_o write_v be_v against_o the_o persecution_n that_o heathen_n exercise_v against_o christian_n or_o what_o 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