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A43114	The Quaker converted to Christianity re-established, upon the same, sure, safe, and only foundation, Jesus Christ crucified, and his righteousness imputed for justification : having yet no mind to change the sweet and easie Yoke of Christ's Gospel, for the Old Covenant-Yoke of Quakerism, which he found so burdensome and intolerable, or, A full reply to a book entituled, Rebellion rebuked written by John Crook and William Baily, both in the ministry among the Quakers / written by William Haworth ... ; with an account from William Dimsdale ...	Haworth, William.; Dimsdale, William.	1674 (1674)	Wing H1196; ESTC R513	168,839	185

follows to give the Light of the Knowledg See still they had it not in them before Again of the Glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ Now look into those that are well acquainted with the Greek Language they will tell thee this word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth properly a Person Answering to that Hebrew word used in Levi● 19.15 Thou shalt not respect the Person of the Poor And it is used in 〈◊〉 1.11 by the means of many Persons Now was no the Per●o● Christ without them That which in 1 John 1. they had seen 〈◊〉 their eyes it was external to them And most of the Glory of 〈◊〉 did shine forth in Christ's personal coming Therefore when he 〈◊〉 which is the next Scripture thou bringest We have this Trea●●e in Earthen Vessels It was the Knowledg the Apostles had in their 〈◊〉 of the Person without Pag. 42. Parag. 2. Thou ownest the Work of God without If thou wast plain-hearted and honest we would thank thee And we do say with thee there are none knoweth the things of God aright but by the Spirit And it 's the same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead that dwels in his people and will at last quicken their Mortal Bodies But thou hast a reservation in all this Is it any less than Blasphemy to say that the Light within raised Christ from the dead and shall raise the Saints Mortal Bodies in the day of the Resurrection As that Scripture Rom. 8.11 i● to be understood All discerning ones by this time see that the Quakers deny the Resurrection of the Body and so consequently Christ's Resurrection Then this quickning of the Mortal Bodies mentioned by Baily is no more than what as the Quakers apprehend is attained by attendance to the Light within Are the Quakers Christians Baily Next quoteth Rom. 8.9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16. to prove the Apostle preached Christ within Reply Not for Justification those Scriptures speak of Sanctification He had spoke of Justification before which is the Cause of this and this an evidence of the other Baily And Christ Preached the Kingdom of Heaven within people Luke 17.21 Reply This place is much made use of by the Quakers Now it 's plain he speaks to the Pharisees whom he calls there Vipers Hypocrites said Satan was their Father Is it likely that Christ would give a Specimen of what his Kingdom was by it's being in the Pharisees What Children of the Devil and Unbelievers and yet the Kingdom of Heaven within them What the Holy Ghost's Sanctification Faith Love Holiness Peace and Joy For the Kingdom of God consists in these things what all these in the Pharisees The Quakers Light I grant was in them but is this any where called the Kingdom of Heaven What is Nature the Kingdom of Heaven Then this 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is but intra vos or apud vos i. e. with you or among you used by the Greeks in their Translation of the Old Testament 〈◊〉 for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 among you there is no more in it than 〈◊〉 1 John 26. There standeth one among you These Pharisees dreamed 〈◊〉 an Earthly Kingdom in Earthly Glory Therefore he saith 〈◊〉 Kingdom cometh not with Observation Their Eyes were blinded 〈◊〉 this Conception of theirs and they stumbled at the lowness and 〈◊〉 verty of Christ and would not believe that he was the Messiah 〈◊〉 were inquiring for the Kingdom Now he tells them It cometh 〈◊〉 with Observation but it was come he being come and it was among them he in Person being among them working Miracles in the midst of them They sought for the Messiah as absent when he was present and very near them We still grant Sanctification within but here the Kingdom of Heaven is taken for the personal coming of Christ that is without Baily And the True Worship of the Father is in Spirit and in Truth Reply But had not the Father an existence of himself without 〈◊〉 before any had their beings Do ye Worship the Father within by the Light or Spirit as ye call it within And was not the Fathers powerful work in sending his Son And the Righteousness of Christ without notwithstanding this Worshipping of the Father in Spirit and Truth Baily And said what and if ye shall see the Son of Man ascend 〈◊〉 where he was before John 6. It is the Spirit that quickneth the Flesh profits nothing When they cryed How can this Man give us his Flesh ●● eat Whose Minds were wholly without like many of yours Reply These Jews did not believe that Christ was God but did despise his low estate He is convincing them here that he was God as well as Man though he did vail his Glory thus in the Flesh for the present Therefore he asserts his Original that it was from Heaven and his Eternal existence before he took Flesh and saith here the Son of Man was in Heaven before he took Flesh He useth a Phrase that is common in Scripture Attributing that to his humane Nature which was proper to the Divine Otherwise as the Son of Man he was not in Heaven before his Ascension from the Earth It 's well if thou and thy Brethren did Believe that he is now Ascended into Glory as he is the Son of Man But is evident ye do not That of his Flesh profiting nothing must be understood thus viz. That his Manhood is nothing for Salvation taken alone and apart from his Deity called the Spirit there And they believed him not as we said to be God The reason why they stumbled at that saying viz. That he would give them 〈◊〉 to eat was because they were ignorant of the way of Faith 〈◊〉 gross Conceptions of eating his Material Flesh with their Ma●●● Teeth We Glory in the Flesh of Christ and know that it pro●●● i. e. the Son of God taking Mans Nature into Union with him●● and therein fulfilling the Law and bearing the Curse of it Of●●ng that Body on the Cross Thus he is the Bread of Life and by 〈◊〉 in this as done for us we have Life and entrance into Glory 〈◊〉 New and Living way which he consecrated for us through the Veil 〈◊〉 to say his Flesh Heb. 10.20 Baily And said 2 Pet. 1.19 We have also a more sure Word of Pro●●ty to which ye do well to take heed as unto a Light that shines in a 〈◊〉 place until the day dawn and the day-Star arise in your hearts 〈◊〉 Jesus is the Bright and the Morning-Star Reply Remember Reader that these Scriptures are brought to prove 〈◊〉 the Apostles did Preach Christ only within Now let us see whether in this Scripture Peter doth not point them to the Person of Jesus Christ and this day dawning and day-Star arising in their hearts was but a more clear knowledg of Jesus Christ Certainly he is pressing them to get into their hearts a more distinct knowledg of Jesus Christ's Person and of the

and defraud and so enrich your selves But I am confident this young man was honest and so true to his perswasion for honesty without the Faith of the Gospel is their perswasion and Religion Now thou reflectest upon us by way of Query then what they are converted from or to c I answer we are converted from darkness that imbred natural darkness that we are in and all men unto Light which Light is Christ's person and the Gospel which declares of him and so to all things that Christ in the Gospel requires of us which is not only Morality but attending upon his Institutions as the Lord's Supper As often as ye do it c and through Grace we are true to this perswasion that the Holy Ghost hath wrought in us You will give us leave to walk by our own Light not yours and to profess still that we are not perfect nor think we shall ever attain it in this Life Yet do we think that as the Carnal Jew went beyond the Unbelieving Gentile so if we were as you think us to be but carnal gospellers yet in that we are come further than the Quakers that go about to make the people only moral Heathens J. C. Thou sayst the little time he hath had for proficiency in the Knowledg of the Gospel might discourage thee from making his Book Publick To which thou replyest I wonder at it seeing thou sayst before that it is not possible for any to receive it truly and forsake it which if he hath not done thou speakest unadvisedly with thy lips in saying that it is an experience which the Lord in rich mercy gave him whom thou also callest dear and elect Child and sayest flesh and blood hath not revealed this to him but our Father which is in Heaven but how can he that thus contradicteth himself agree with the truth in others Answer So according to thy Reasoning and Logick It is not possible for any to have been but a little time in the Gospel and yet truly to receive it as to be out of danger to forsake it Is this is a Contradiction every one that receives the Gospel truly must have received it many years but if any turn Quaker as Mede Pen and Ruddier you will say they are in the truth the first day As to the others Cannot the Lord in rich mercy give an experience and yet there may have been but little proficiency in the Knowledg of the Gospel that one may have the true teachings of the Spirit and yet not fit to Write and Print Is it not plain to all but Cavillers that I speak it thus viz. That he having penned these in his own Words and Phrases who was but newly come into the Faith and so might have but a dim sight into some truths and not know how to express himself so fitly as others that had spent more years in the Faith why didst thou not add that which goes before viz. the meanness of the persons Education thou shouldest have taken them together But it seems any of your Proselytes though never so childish are fit presently to adventure out in the press and in the ministery who so hold as blind c. J. C. pag. 6. Oh that every one of you my dear Brethren and every one i● Hatford had the Knowledg of Christ thus distinctly formed in you till which thing be the soul of him to whom Christ hath committed you as his charge shall travel in birth and be in pain blessing God that his poor labours 〈◊〉 not altogether been in vain as to this matter what is that travel and labour worth that brings not to a distinct Knowledg of Christ and what a Church is that and what a pastor is he and how can they be dear brethren in truth in whom the distinct Knowledg of Christ is not yet formed Answer Either thou hast forgotten that this Phrase which I make use of was ever used by Paul Gal. 4.19 My little Children of whom I travel in birth again till Christ be formed in you or else thou dost plainly gibe at Paul the Apostle and the Church of the Galatians at least through our sides thou woundest them Paul writes to the Galatians owns them as the Churches of Christ Chap. 1.2 saith that they had received the Spirit Chap. 3.2 Yet in tha● they were hearkening to false teachers and were wavering and halting and tossed he speaks this And I understand it as to the distinct Knowledg of Christ and so I speak of it they had some knowledg of Christ but it was too confused and dim otherwise they would not have been enticed they were but little Children in this vers 19. he called them so yet Children Now John is this language becoming thee viz. Paul what is thy labour and travel worth when-as thou hast not brought the Galatians to have Christ formed in them and Paul what a Church is this Church that thou writes to in Galatia and what a Pastor Preacher and Apostle art thou and what dear Brethren are they to thee and what a Spirit is that they have received in whom Christ is not yet formed well said John thou art now got a degree above the Apostles in that thou canst thus call them to an account and yet this may well be the tendency of thy lines spoken to us when-as your Doctrine and Paul's are so opposite much a kin to the Doctrine of the false Apostles that questioned Paul's authority and looked upon his ministery but carnal and thou hast in this declared the same Spirit Paul saith in another place Thess 1.3 there is much lacking in your Faith and to the Corinthians are ye not Carnal Now what an Apostle what a Pastor art thou Paul and what a Church is the Church of the Corinthians that are carnal what Saints are they and what faithful ones in Christ are they And John how hast thou forgot thy self in this cavil had the Disciples the distinct Knowledg of Christ when-as they knew not the import of his death nor that he should rise again We thought said they that it had been he that would have restored Israel Luk. 24. whereupon he calls them fools vers 25. They did not distinctly know why Christ died nor the Scriptures that prophesied of it they did not distinctly know of his Resurrection for they would not believe it when reported they thought of a carnal Kingdom which the Messias was come to set up Yet these Christ calls Friends Disciples Brethren Go tell my Brethren Mat. 28.10 and in another place I go to my God and your God my Father and your Father Now John see how it will become thee to say what Brethren are those what Friends are those that had no more Knowledg not a distinct knowledg of Christs death and resurrection that were so ignorant and what a Pastor was Jesus that had such followers that had not the distinct knowledg of Christ formed in them but this is enough to make thee

things put together here with which thou art angry 1. That there is a Light that e●ry Man hath not 2. That there is a Righteousness imputed 3. That Salvation is from a Person wholly without which are all Truths and I am ready to defend them The First thou begins with and asks Whether the Apostles of Christ did Preach a Light or of a Light that every Man hath not 1. Now I assert and will make it good that the Scriptures do frequently speak of a Light that every man hath not Jude 19. Natural or Souly not having the Spirit Now the Spirit is Light and he that is but a Natural Man hath it not Then this Scripture speak● of a Light that every Man hath not John 14.17 The Spirit of Truth whom the World cannot receive If the World i. e. Worldly Carnal Men cannot receive it be sure they have it not Luk. 8.10 To you it is given to know the Mysteries of the Kingdom of God but to others in Parables that seeing they might not see c. Now here is a Light that the Disciples had which the others had not Matth. 11. Thou hast hid those things from the Wise and the Prudent and hast revealed them to Babes Then the Wise and Prudent to whom the Father reveals not Heavenly things want this Light that other Babes have Isa 60.21 Darkness shall cover the Earth and gross Darkness the people but the Lord shall arise upon thee and his Glory shall be seen upon thee A Prophecy of the Church that should be in Gospel-times All excepting these he saith will be in Darkness as Goshen had Light when all the rest of Egypt were in Darkness Here is a Light that the Church hath that none other hath This Light that they were to have in a distinguishing way was the Spirit in their Hearts and Gods word in their Mouths According to God's New Covenant Isa 59. and the last verse As for me this is my Covanant with them saith the Lord My Spirit that is upon thee and my words which I have put in thy Mouth c. When thou writest be sure thou omit not answering these Scriptures plainly or else Recant for saying that it is a strange erroneous Doctrine quite contrary to the General Testimony of all the Holy Men of God in all ages B. saith What is that other Light beside the true Light That it may be known distinctly according to plain Scripture And in the next Parag● If you are not able to give us an account of this Light which every Man hath not a measure of we shall justly Judg it to be a meer dark and vain Imagination of your own Brains and asks in p. 41. Whether every one hath two Lights in him And whether they differ in degree only or in kind nature Reply This is something worth while to Answer to I am glad following thee step by step in every line that I have brought thee hither It had been fair if thou hadst promised that if in any plainness I lay down this thing thou desirest and Answer thy Objections that thou wouldest have left the dark vain Imagination of thy Brain and own this to be a Truth and ceased thy Quakerism 1. I Grant that there is a Light in every Man a spark remaining in ●llen Man of that Light that Adam had in a full Flame before his Transgression in his time of Innocency If ye ask me what it is I Answer some Principles of Common Truth fixed in the Mind of Man 2. What can it effect How far can it go 1. By this Man may know some Divine things viz. That there is a God and that he is to be Worshipped Therefore every Nation have had some kind of Worship 2. Hereby Man may discern betwixt some Moral Good and Evil. As the Heathens saw hereby Murther and Adultery to be Evils and therefore made Laws to punish those that were guilty of them 3. Man may hereby and by the help of Conscience and the Common Restraining Power of God be kept from many Evils and do many Duties that lie before him for the profit of his Neighbour for the good of the Society or Common-Wealth wherein he dwells for this one thing he seeth by it viz. the Judgment of God i. e. Justice to punish sin and this makes him fear 4. From this Light is that power in Man which he feels of condemning and excusing He may know many things to be good and his duty to do them now when he doth according to this knowledg of his reflecting upon it he hath Peace his Conscience will be quiet if not there will be trouble through the many reasonings that will be in Man and fear of Judgment 5. This Light is greatly helped and increased by the consideration of the Works of Creation Rom. 2.19 20. 6. More by the reading of the Scriptures hearing the Word preached converse with Christians And let it be noted that the Quakers had the Improvement of the Light this way though they will not acknowledg it In India we hear but of little Improvement of it 7. Many that live not up to this Light will be very inexcusably Condemned 8. And those that walk according to it doing some things contained in the Law do shame Judg and Condemn those that pretend to Christianity and yet live not in Righteousness and Sobriety And shall not Vncircumcision which is by Nature if it fulfil the Law Judg thee who by the Letter and Circumcision dost transgress the Law Rom. 2. 27. Quest 3. What can it not shew to Man 1. It cannot shew to Man how sin came into the world None of the Heathens ever spoke of this it is known only by the Revelation of the History of it in the Scriptures 2. It doth not shew to Man neither can it that the first motions to evil in the heart though not consented to are sin None of the Philosophers saw this Paul saith Rom. 7.7 I had not known Lust i. e. Concupiscence Desire to be sin he means except the Law That is Moses Moral Law had said thou shalt not Covet or desire He knew it not by all the Light of Nature within 3. It doth not shew Unbelief to be a sin a slighting and contemning and rejecting Jesus of Nazareth as the sealed Mediator John 14.8 He i. e. the Comforter shall convince the World of sin because they believe not Now this is plain in the Quakers who following the Light do so much contemn the Person of Jesus and his Righteousness 4. It shews not to Man some Moral Evils The Heathens saw not Fornication to be a Sin by all the Light they had Poligamy was not accounted a sin by them Nor Revenge a Sin Nor Vain Glory c. 5. It doth not shew the right way of Worship that is by Scripture-Revelation only Therefore the Heathens always ran into Idolatries and false Worships 6. It will not shew to Man the necessity of the New-Birth Every Man