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A13295 A reply to a pretended Christian plea for the anti-Chistian [sic] Church of Rome: published by Mr. Francis Iohnson a⁰. 1617 Wherin the weakness of the sayd plea is manifested, and arguments alleaged for the Church of Rome, and baptisme therein, are refuted; by Henry Ainsworth. Anno 1618. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1620 (1620) STC 236; ESTC S122155 171,683 191

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shall_v separate_v thou_o from_o the_o state_n of_o reprobate_n he_o do_v not_o therefore_o break_v off_o unity_n who_o depart_v from_o the_o synagogue_n of_o rome_n but_o he_o purchase_v unavoidable_a destruction_n to_o himself_o who_o cleave_v unto_o it_o without_o repentance_n these_o and_o the_o like_a thing_n say_v mr._n brightman_n one_o who_o name_n my_o opposite_a 213._o use_v to_o grace_v his_o erroneous_a cause_n by_o mr._n broughtons_n testimony_n we_o have_v hear_v before_o mr._n dudley_n fenner_n in_o his_o theology_n write_v thus_o 1●_n antichrist_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o universal_a apostasy_n that_o shall_v come_v 1._o joh._n 2._o 18._o joh._n 4._o 2._o 2._o thess._n 2._o 4._o 5._o 6._o whereupon_o his_o church_n be_v by_o a_o synecdoche_n call_v antichrist_n 1._o joh._n 4._o 3._o &_o 2._o 18._o as_o the_o true_a church_n be_v call_v christ_n 1._o cor._n 12._o 12._o the_o antichristian_a church_n compare_v to_o a_o beast_n be_v the_o apostatical_a church_n but_o counterfeit_n the_o vizard_n of_o the_o true_a which_o represent_v the_o lively_a image_n of_o the_o roman_a monarchy_n former_o do_z away_o and_o of_o the_o government_n power_n amplitude_n &_o seat_n thereof_o among_o all_o people_n 2_o thes._n 2._o 4._o 5._o 6._o 8._o revel_v 11._o 7._o 8._o &_o 13._o 3._o 11._o 12._o 18_o antichrist_n or_o the_o false_a prophet_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o antichristian_a church_n the_o mediator_n between_o it_o and_o the_o dragon_n rev._n 16._o 13._o &_o 13._o 4._o 11._o 12._o this_o antichrist_n be_v a_o opposer_n for_o to_o defend_v the_o foresay_a depart_n away_o from_o the_o truth_n of_o christ_n 2_o thes._n 2._o 4._o compare_v as_o touch_v the_o phrase_n with_o dan._n 8._o 11._o and_o a_o exalter_n of_o himself_o first_o that_o he_o may_v lift_v up_o himself_o against_o all_o that_o be_v call_v god_n or_o that_o be_v worship_v that_o be_v against_o all_o power_n and_o majesty_n both_o earthly_a &_o heavenly_a 2._o thes._n 2._o 9_o dan._n 8._o 11._o 36._o second_o that_o place_v his_o seat_n in_o the_o church_n in_o name_n call_v god_n he_o may_v show_v himself_o as_o god_n that_o be_v arrogate_v to_o himself_o the_o divine_a power_n and_o absolute_a dominion_n of_o christ_n esai_n 31._o 1._o 2._o 2_o thes._n 2._o 4._o dan._n 8._o 25._o napier_n the_o noble_a of_o scotland_n expound_v the_o revelation_n say_v 2._o but_o as_o for_o the_o outward_a and_o visible_a face_n of_o the_o pretend_a church_n it_o must_v be_v reject_v from_o god_n and_o no_o care_n measure_n nor_o account_n have_v by_o he_o thereof_o because_o it_o must_v be_v give_v over_o to_o antichristian_a and_o idolatrous_a people_n who_o shall_v subdue_v his_o holy_a church_n and_o spiritual_a jerusalem_n and_o tread_v it_o under_o foot_n 1260._o year_n 5._o god_n true_a church_n and_o spouse_n be_v chase_v away_o and_o remain_v invisible_a and_o soliturie_n among_o certain_a private_a person_n predestinate_a &_o elect_v of_o god_n 5._o but_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n that_o lie_v dead_a in_o antichristian_a error_n arise_v not_o therfrom_o to_o embrace_v the_o word_n of_o life_n ill_a etc._n etc._n hist_o but_o the_o rest_n i_o mean_v the_o whole_a outward_a visible_a church_n lay_v whole_o as_o dead_a and_o corrupt_v with_o papistocal_a error_n of_o the_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n although_o the_o former_a thing_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v enough_o to_o disprove_v her_o baptism_n which_o be_v ordain_v of_o god_n only_o for_o his_o church_n and_o those_o in_o his_o covenant_n out_o of_o which_o rome_n be_v go_v yet_o because_o my_o opposite_a urge_v some_o special_a reason_n against_o i_o for_o the_o same_o i_o will_v also_o brief_o answer_v they_o about_o this_o point_n he_o have_v nine_o reason_n in_o his_o christian_a plea_n pag._n 27_o ..._o 30._o 1._o the_o first_o which_o be_v against_o the_o repeat_n of_o baptism_n again_o i_o grant_v he_o neither_o do_v i_o hold_v it_o needful_a or_o 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be_v not_o true_a baptism_n i_o constant_o affirm_v so_o do_v mr._n johnson_n 110._o himself_o while_o he_o stand_v in_o and_o write_v for_o the_o truth_n that_o the_o papist_n have_v turn_v baptism_n into_o a_o idol_n i_o have_v also_o former_o 73._o prove_v and_o will_v maintain_v against_o his_o answer_n that_o therefore_o it_o be_v detestable_a and_o curse_a unto_o they_o through_o their_o abuse_n of_o it_o do_v necessary_o follow_v for_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o wicked_a be_v a_o abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n pro._n 15._o 8._o that_o it_o shall_v be_v no_o better_o than_o the_o daily_a wash_n of_o our_o face_n be_v wrongful_o impute_v to_o we_o and_o mr._n cl._n who_o he_o cit_v in_o his_o margin_n profess_v to_o hold_v no_o such_o thing_n for_o our_o daily_a wash_n be_v no_o religious_a action_n nor_o sacrament_n at_o all_o but_o baptism_n by_o heretic_n and_o apostate_n be_v a_o religious_a action_n after_o their_o manner_n and_o a_o false_a sacrament_n therefore_o neither_o true_a neither_o yet_o none_o at_o all_o as_o our_o opposite_a with_o we_o once_o profess_v apolog._n p._n 110._o instead_o of_o prove_v it_o true_a baptism_n he_o bring_v reason_n to_o show_v that_o if_o it_o be_v a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n it_o ought_v to_o be_v renounce_v and_o a_o other_o receive_v this_o he_o know_v the_o anabaptist_n do_v practice_v so_o it_o be_v no_o conviction_n of_o they_o all_z but_o he_o bend_v his_o force_n now_o against_o we_o and_o leave_v they_o let_v we_o try_v what_o he_o say_v 1._o because_o say_v he_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n and_o fiction_n be_v not_o of_o god_n but_o of_o the_o devil_n who_o be_v a_o liar_n and_o father_n thereof_o joh._n 8._o 44._o rom._n 3._o 4._o answ._n i_o grant_v that_o which_o he_o say_v but_o he_o conclude_v not_o the_o question_n idol_n so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v idol_n and_o lie_n be_v whole_o of_o the_o devil_n and_o so_o far_o forth_o to_o be_v renounce_v but_o some_o idol_n and_o lie_n be_v make_v of_o god_n true_a ordinance_n and_o of_o his_o good_a creature_n as_o paul_n say_v of_o the_o gentile_n that_o they_o change_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n into_o a_o lie_n and_o worship_v and_o serve_v the_o creature_n rom._n 1._o 25._o here_o the_o gentile_n lie_v be_v to_o be_v do_z away_o and_o their_o idolatry_n renounce_v but_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v retain_v and_o a_o holy_a use_n of_o the_o good_a creature_n may_v be_v have_v which_o they_o abuse_v so_o we_o have_v renounce_v the_o popish_a idolatry_n and_o lie_n which_o they_o have_v bring_v upon_o god_n sacrament_n but_o the_o truth_n we_o retain_v 2._o a_o idol_n or_o such_o a_o baptism_n as_o be_v no_o more_o than_o a_o daily_a wash_n of_o our_o face_n can_v be_v the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o god_n true_a and_o everlasting_a covenant_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i_o grant_v it_o and_o from_o his_o own_o word_n conclude_v against_o he_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v former_o prove_v to_o be_v a_o idol_n because_o they_o give_v to_o the_o creature_n and_o work_n of_o man_n hand_n that_o honour_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o christ_n only_o therefore_o it_o can_v be_v a_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o god_n everlasting_a covenant_n by_o his_o own_o grant_n as_o for_o we_o we_o retain_v no_o idol_n but_o god_n truth_n only_o as_o before_o i_o show_v 3._o the_o sign_n in_o a_o sacrament_n be_v that_o which_o be_v outward_a and_o visible_a which_o in_o baptism_n be_v wash_v with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n if_o this_o be_v a_o fiction_n and_o lie_a sign_n in_o the_o church_n aforesaid_a then_o be_v it_o not_o the_o lord_n and_o they_o there_o baptize_v have_v not_o then_o the_o outward_a visible_a sign_n which_o the_o lord_n ordain_v to_o be_v have_v of_o his_o people_n and_o therefore_o be_v bind_v to_o get_v it_o unto_o they_o where_o it_o may_v be_v have_v rom._n 4._o 11._o &_o 6._o 3._o 4._o act._n 10._o 47._o 48._o etc._n etc._n answ._n 1._o the_o first_o part_n of_o his_o reason_n be_v unperfect_o set_v down_o for_o wash_v with_o water_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o the_o wash_n away_o of_o sin_n by_o and_o in_o god_n institution_n only_o by_o which_o institution_n it_o be_v to_o be_v minister_v to_o none_o but_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n act._n 8._o 36._o 37._o &_o 2._o 38._o 39_o if_o it_o be_v not_o minister_v according_a to_o this_o ordinance_n of_o god_n it_o be_v not_o the_o sign_n of_o his_o grace_n in_o that_o abuse_n though_o it_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o god_n in_o the_o right_a use_n have_v appoint_v for_o a_o sign_n 2._o he_o will_v deceive_v his_o reader_n as_o if_o we_o hold_v wash_n shall_v be_v with_o any_o other_o creature_n than_o water_n or_o in_o any_o other_o name_n then_o the_o lord_n these_o thing_n we_o know_v be_v in_o themselves_o the_o true_a ordinance_n of_o christ_n but_o by_o antichrist_n turn_v to_o a_o lie_n while_o he_o false_o apply_v they_o to_o his_o adulterous_a synagogue_n which_o christ_n have_v give_v to_o his_o church_n only_o and_o while_o he_o idolatrous_o give_v that_o grace_n to_o the_o work_n of_o his_o sacrilegious_a priest_n which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o christ_n and_o his_o blood_n it_o be_v the_o true_a sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v by_o antichrist_n turn_v to_o a_o lie_n and_o if_o we_o shall_v devise_v to_o ourselves_o any_o other_o sign_n we_o shall_v be_v liar_n like_o he_o who_o have_v devise_v cream_n spittle_n and_o other_o like_a element_n synful_o join_v with_o his_o baptism_n 4._o that_o also_o be_v to_o be_v do_z without_o delay_n see_v the_o neglect_n of_o baptism_n be_v sin_n and_o no_o unbaptise_v may_v eat_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n answ._n it_o be_v true_a and_o so_o we_o if_o we_o have_v not_o be_v baptize_v with_o water_n etc._n etc._n will_v do_v it_o without_o delay_n but_o he_o trifle_v insist_v upon_o the_o outward_a element_n which_o he_o know_v we_o have_v and_o leave_v the_o main_a thing_n the_o relation_n to_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n which_o we_o have_v not_o in_o that_o antichristian_a synagogue_n 5._o if_o any_o retain_v a_o idol_n baptism_n etc._n etc._n and_o presume_v to_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n they_o eat_v judgement_n to_o themselves_o answ._n we_o retain_v no_o idol_n baptism_n but_o have_v put_v away_o the_o idol_n and_o the_o lie_n and_o retain_v the_o truth_n only_o as_o before_o be_v show_v the_o same_o we_o answer_v to_o his_o six_o reason_n which_o be_v but_o a_o repetition_n and_o enlargement_n of_o his_o former_a as_o be_v his_o manner_n 7._o neither_o can_v it_o be_v think_v that_o repentance_n which_o still_o they_o speak_v of_o shall_v ever_o make_v a_o lie_n to_o be_v a_o truth_n and_o idol_n to_o be_v god_n ordinance_n etc._n etc._n for_o though_o repentance_n find_v mercy_n with_o god_n for_o a_o lie_n yet_o a_o lie_n be_v a_o lie_n still_o and_o a_o idol-vanity_n zach._n 10._o 2._o jer._n 10._o 8._o joh._n 8._o 44._o &_o 14._o 6._o &_o 17._o 17._o 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if_o the_o israelite_n have_v make_v idol_n of_o jachin_n and_o boaz_n the_o two_o sacramental_a pillar_n in_o the_o temple_n 2._o chron._n 3._o 17._o and_o have_v burn_v incense_n to_o they_o as_o they_o do_v to_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n 2._o king_n 18._o 4._o they_o shall_v have_v repent_v of_o and_o put_v away_o their_o idolatry_n but_o have_v retain_v those_o pillar_n still_o for_o such_o sign_n as_o god_n have_v ordain_v they_o but_o such_o pillar_n and_o post_n as_o israel_n have_v invent_v of_o their_o own_o head_n and_o set_v they_o by_o the_o lord_n post_n ezek._n 43._o 8._o no_o repentance_n can_v make_v they_o
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of_o transubstantiation_n and_o the_o like_a they_o thould_v not_o only_o repent_v of_o their_o lie_n and_o put_v away_o their_o idol_n but_o also_o renounce_v christ_n word_n and_o put_v away_o the_o holy_a scripture_n if_o this_o doctrine_n of_o our_o opposite_n be_v true_a 8._o nor_o do_v they_o in_o deed_n repent_v who_o still_o retain_v such_o baptism_n as_o themselves_o think_v to_o be_v a_o idol_n etc._n etc._n for_o true_a repentance_n bind_v we_o to_o cast_v away_o all_o idol_n etc._n etc._n answ._n this_o be_v already_o answer_v neither_o do_v we_o reteyn_v such_o a_o baptism_n as_o we_o think_v to_o be_v a_o idol_n but_o that_o ordinance_n of_o god_n which_o be_v a_o idol_n by_o antichrists_n abuse_n and_o be_v through_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n restore_v unto_o his_o former_a truth_n that_o only_o do_v we_o retain_v repent_v of_o our_o former_a abuse_n thereof_o among_o they_o god_n himself_o as_o i_o have_v show_v be_v make_v a_o idol_n by_o the_o gentile_n their_o 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which_o it_o do_v not_o etc._n etc._n they_o do_v but_o shift_v and_o contradict_v themselves_o and_o deceive_v other_o and_o still_o run_v into_o error_n more_o and_o more_o answ._n great_a word_n as_o if_o he_o will_v bear_v down_o all_o before_o he_o but_o let_v we_o hear_v his_o proof_n for_o first_o say_v he_o speak_v of_o the_o lord_n baptism_n they_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o be_v inward_a whereas_o our_o question_n be_v of_o that_o which_o be_v outward_a answ._n a_o good_a beginning_n the_o apostle_n say_v there_o be_v one_o lord_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n eph._n 4._o 5._o himself_o also_o a_o little_a before_o 27._o say_v against_o the_o anabaptist_n there_o be_v one_o baptism_n as_o there_o be_v one_o circumcision_n now_o against_o we_o he_o will_v have_v two_o baptism_n one_o outward_a a_o other_o inward_a whereas_o though_o there_o be_v two_o action_n one_o outward_a do_z by_o man_n the_o other_o inward_a do_z by_o god_n spirit_n yet_o both_o be_v but_o one_o baptism_n one_o sacrament_n as_o the_o outward_a body_n and_o the_o inward_a soul_n make_v not_o two_o man_n but_o one_o man_n a_o sacrament_n be_v a_o sacred_a order_n between_o the_o outward_a visible_a thing_n and_o the_o spiritual_a invisible_a which_o have_v a_o mutual_a proportion_n and_o likeness_n between_o they_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o be_v not_o circumcision_n which_o be_v outward_a in_o the_o flesh_n but_o that_o which_o be_v of_o the_o heart_n in_o the_o spirit_n rom._n 2._o 28._o 29._o if_o they_o have_v in_o rome_n but_o the_o outward_a wash_n without_o the_o inward_a then_o have_v they_o not_o true_a baptism_n but_o a_o false_a deceitful_a sign_n second_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o i_o speak_v but_o of_o the_o inward_a work_n only_o for_o i_o speak_v also_o of_o the_o outward_a which_o be_v have_v in_o rome_n need_v not_o be_v repeat_v as_o i_o show_v by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o israelite_n now_o which_o of_o we_o two_o shift_v contradict_v and_o deceive_v i_o or_o he_o let_v indifferent_a man_n say_v 2._o they_o speak_v say_v he_o of_o abuse_n in_o the_o ministration_n and_o opinion_n of_o the_o minister_n thereof_o whereas_o our_o question_n be_v of_o the_o thing_n itself_o not_o of_o the_o abuse_n answ._n we_o speak_v of_o the_o thing_n itself_o baptism_n abuse_v by_o the_o minister_n and_o receiver_n neither_o of_o which_o be_v in_o god_n covenant_n and_o therefore_o can_v have_v no_o true_a sign_n or_o seal_n of_o his_o covenant_n unto_o they_o in_o that_o estate_n second_o if_o it_o be_v not_o for_o abuse_n and_o opinion_n of_o man_n god_n and_o his_o truth_n and_o ordinance_n can_v never_o be_v change_v into_o lie_n and_o idol_n as_o the_o apostle_n teach_v we_o they_o be_v rom._n 1._o 23._o 25._o the_o athenian_n be_v idolater_n against_o the_o true_a god_n who_o paul_n preach_v and_o who_o they_o ignorant_o worship_v act._n 17._o 23._o if_o one_o will_v take_v they_o in_o hand_n to_o excuse_v they_o &_o say_v our_o question_n be_v of_o the_o thing_n itself_o the_o true_a god_n and_o not_o of_o the_o athenian_n abuse_n and_o opinion_n be_v it_o not_o a_o worthy_a plea_n yet_o such_o we_o have_v for_o antichristian_o baptism_n 3._o their_o assertion_n say_v he_o imply_v that_o they_o have_v not_o the_o lord_n baptism_n till_o they_o get_v it_o themselves_o by_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n in_o true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n which_o be_v plain_a anabaptistry_n and_o covert_a popery_n and_o arminianism_n whereby_o they_o debase_v god_n grace_n and_o exalt_v man_n work_n for_o it_o must_v be_v understand_v either_o of_o the_o inward_a or_o outward_a baptism_n if_o of_o the_o inward_a beside_o that_o it_o touch_v not_o the_o question_n it_o imply_v popery_n if_o of_o the_o outward_a it_o contain_v anabaptistry_n answ._n deliver_v my_o soul_n o_o lord_n from_o lie_v lip_n from_o the_o deceitful_a tongue_n psa._n 120._o 2._o first_o he_o cit_v as_o my_o word_n till_o they_o have_v get_v it_o themselves_o by_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n whereas_o the_o word_n themselves_o be_v of_o his_o own_o addition_n second_o he_o wrest_v they_o to_o such_o a_o meaning_n as_o in_o his_o conscience_n he_o know_v i_o never_o intend_v namely_o to_o debase_v god_n grace_n and_o exalt_v man_n work_n as_o do_v the_o papist_n and_o arminian_n as_o if_o i_o think_v that_o we_o come_v or_o can_v come_v to_o the_o lord_n of_o ourselves_o without_o be_v 44._o draw_v of_o the_o father_n or_o as_o if_o our_o come_n to_o he_o be_v a_o meritorious_a work_n which_o error_n i_o abhor_v 3._o neither_o do_v my_o word_n imply_v such_o a_o meaning_n any_o more_o than_o our_o saviour_n when_o he_o say_v come_v unto_o i_o all_o you_o that_o labour_n etc._n etc._n and_o i_o will_v give_v you_o rest_n take_v my_o yoke_n upon_o you_o etc._n etc._n and_o you_o shall_v find_v rest_n to_o your_o soul_n math._n 11._o 28._o 29._o to_o conclude_v of_o that_o speech_n therefore_o they_o can_v come_v of_o themselves_o or_o their_o come_n shall_v be_v a_o meritorious_a work_n or_o the_o like_a be_v a_o openinjury_n to_o our_o lord_n word_n his_o two_o baptism_n inward_a and_o outward_a be_v before_o show_v to_o be_v but'an_n evasion_n we_o acknowledge_v but_o one_o baptism_n eph._n 4._o 5._o neither_o if_o it_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o outward_a do_v it_o as_o he_o say_v conteyn_a anabaptistry_n for_o the_o anabaptist_n do_v not_o hold_v that_o they_o have_v the_o outward_a baptism_n by_o faith_n and_o repentance_n but_o do_v repeat_v the_o outward_a work_n and_o baptise_v again_o which_o i_o deny_v so_o herein_o he_o have_v do_v i_o double_a wrong_n 4._o if_o they_o have_v die_v in_o infancy_n they_o have_v not_o then_o have_v the_o lord_n baptism_n nor_o have_v be_v baptize_v
the_o righteousness_n of_o say_v and_o forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n in_o that_o sinful_a estate_n thus_o i_o show_v god_n word_n not_o i_o own_o for_o oracle_n he_o ask_v if_o we_o will_v be_v wise_a and_o more_o righteous_a than_o god_n himself_o who_o account_v they_o still_o to_o be_v his_o people_n under_o his_o covenant_n and_o himself_o to_o be_v their_o god_n and_o upon_o this_o ground_n call_v they_o to_o repentance_n etc._n etc._n answ._n all_o this_o notwithstanding_o while_o they_o continue_v unrepent_v and_o unbelieved_a and_o 6._o harden_v their_o neck_n against_o the_o lord_n their_o god_n etc._n etc._n their_o circumcisim_fw-la by_o paul_n doctrine_n be_v make_v uncircumcision_n rom._n 2._o 25._o their_o sacrifice_n be_v a_o abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n prov._n 15._o 8._o and_o he_o may_v have_v see_v in_o the_o scripture_n that_o though_o israel_n be_v divorce_v from_o the_o lord_n jer._n 3._o 8._o and_o not_o his_o people_n or_o wife_n nor_o he_o her_o husband_n hos._n 1._o 9_o &_o 2._o 2._o yet_o they_o be_v in_o respect_n of_o their_o former_a state_n their_o continual_a profession_n and_o the_o future_a mercy_n towards_o they_o call_v god_n people_n still_o even_o till_o christ_n time_n esai_n 11._o 11._o 16._o amos._n 9_o 14._o that_o he_o shall_v not_o urge_v a_o phrase_n as_o his_o manner_n be_v against_o the_o plain_a doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n obj._n what_o will_v they_o say_v to_o the_o circumcision_n of_o judah_n in_o their_o apostasy_n etc._n etc._n be_v it_o also_o among_o they_o none_o of_o god_n ordinance_n but_o a_o idol_n etc._n etc._n answ._n it_o be_v god_n ordinance_n though_o abuse_v by_o the_o unworthy_a receiver_n as_o before_o be_v show_v but_o he_o from_o a_o false_a church_n and_o babylon_n fli_v to_o zion_n the_o true_a church_n corrupt_v which_o be_v his_o perpetual_a fallacy_n if_o judah_n or_o any_o church_n in_o the_o world_n have_v do_z with_o the_o sacrament_n as_o rome_n have_v do_z they_o have_v change_v they_o into_o idol_n contrary_a to_o the_o 2._o commandment_n but_o judah_n never_o do_v so_o with_o circumcision_n and_o the_o passover_n he_o show_v no_o word_n of_o god_n to_o prove_v it_o obj._n have_v the_o gate_n of_o hell_n more_o prevail_v against_o the_o christian_a church_n since_o christ_n come_n than_o they_o do_v or_o can_v against_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n before_o his_o come_n in_o the_o flesh_n mat._n 16._o 18._o answ._n this_o old_a popish_a reason_n have_v be_v often_o answer_v by_o many_o writer_n against_o the_o antichristian_o and_o be_v of_o no_o more_o force_n for_o rome_n turn_v to_o antichrist_n then_o for_o ephesus_n corinth_n and_o other_o church_n turn_v to_o mahomet_n for_o what_o privilege_n beside_o a_o popish_a dream_n have_v rome_n above_o ephesus_n shall_v it_o because_o it_o crucify_v christ_n and_o be_v therefore_o curse_a above_o all_o city_n have_v prerogative_n above_o ephesus_n wherein_o be_v a_o church_n in_o paul_n time_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n and_o pillar_n of_o truth_n 1._o tim._n 1._o 3_o &_o 3._o 15._o yet_o be_v that_o church_n long_o since_o cut_v off_o but_o rome_n church_n must_v continue_v for_o her_o good_a service_n to_o divils_n and_o idol_n rev._n 9_o 20._o and_o for_o worship_v the_o beast_n rev._n 13._o he_o may_v have_v see_v in_o rev._n 12._o that_o the_o woman_n the_o church_n perish_v not_o though_o she_o be_v flee_v into_o the_o wilderness_n from_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o serpent_n and_o synagogue_n of_o antichrist_n his_o other_o repetition_n again_o and_o again_o be_v before_o answer_v obj._n the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n may_v in_o any_o church_n become_v unprofitable_a to_o man_n by_o their_o own_o sin_n circumcision_n may_v be_v make_v uncircumcision_n to_o such_o as_o break_v the_o law_n etc._n etc._n rom._n 2._o 25._o 26._o so_o baptism_n now_o but_o shall_v we_o therefore_o say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o in_o such_o church_n to_o such_o person_n the_o lord_n 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74._o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o rome_n whereof_o they_o have_v make_v a_o abominable_a idol_n worship_v a_o piece_n of_o bread_n as_o their_o maker_n my_o opposite_a will_v never_o mention_v or_o meddle_v with_o this_o but_o shun_v it_o as_o convince_v in_o conscience_n and_o from_o antichrists_n church_n run_v to_o the_o christian_a church_n in_o corinth_n and_o ask_v if_o the_o lord_n table_n there_o be_v a_o table_n of_o divils_n i_o answer_v no_o not_o then_o in_o corinth_n but_o now_o in_o rome_n they_o have_v make_v it_o by_o their_o idolatrous_a mass_n a_o table_n of_o divils_n and_o as_o moses_n say_v of_o israel_n they_o sacrifice_v to_o divils_n not_o to_o god_n deut._n 32._o 17._o so_o say_v i_o of_o these_o antichristian_o their_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n be_v a_o sacrifice_n to_o divils_n not_o to_o god_n this_o he_o shall_v have_v disprove_v if_o he_o can_v have_v do_z it_o and_o not_o to_o leave_v the_o person_n and_o thing_n whereof_o we_o dispute_v and_o run_v 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