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A01752 An ansvver to the deuillish detection of Stephane Gardiner, Bishoppe of Wynchester published to the intent that such as be desirous of the truth should not be seduced by hys errours, nor the blind [et] obstinate excused by ignorance Compiled by. A.G. Gilby, Anthony, ca. 1510-1585. 1548 (1548) STC 11884; ESTC S103111 212,305 458

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you are the braunches And continuinge in these parables whiche he accustomed his speache vnto in al his sermons and nowe moste specially towardes his death he opened his mistèries for to rauishe the myndes of his disciples that he myghte prynte them the better in their memorie and contrariwyse that the wycked shoulde heare wyth their eares and not vnderstande see wyth their eyes and not perceyue as Christe alledgeth out of the. vi of Esaie in the. xiii of Math. Thus is the highe wysdome of God alwayes vsed from the begynnyng In Moyses wyth his figures In Solomon with his Prouerbes And ryghte so in all the scriptures to the intent that the preciouse Margarite shoulde not be caste to the hogges He wonderfully enstructed his disciples of his departyng Sometyme in parabbles so●…tyme wythout parables in thys and the. ii chapters folowing Wheras he might haue conforted them substancially ●…t one worde as you teache if he had sayed I wyl not go from you for alwayes when you wyll haue me do onely blowe these iiii wordes this i● my body ouer a litle breade and you shall haue me straighte wayes at hande But oh blynde guides Christe telleth you that the fleshe profiteth nothynge though you haue it present as the Iewes Iudas and the bishoppes had Yea though Iudas had eaten it as you wryte that he dyd in the supper No though he had eaten hym alyue when he kyssed and betrayed him Though he had then eaten Christe I saye euen as he went on the grounde whiche is the thynge that you do so sore stryue about that he must be eaten as he went on the earth sauyng onely that thys muste be done inuisibly Thoughe as you say he were thus eatē in fleshe Christ sayth the fleshe profiteth nothyng at al. And where as you cal thys the chiefe holines and chiefe worshippe Christe sayeth his father seeketh suche worshippers as wyll worshippe hym in spirite and trueth and not in the fleshe shadowes and ceremonies Agayne Christe sayeth I dyd not speake these thynges vnto you from the beginning because I was wyth you But you papistes wyl answer So art thou present styl though thou be hid in a boxe or a litle breade Christe sayeth nowe do I go vnto hym that sent me and I demaunde of you papistes howe he went vnto his father that sent hym Not the Deuyl but the scripture and the angelles of God shall answere for you Christe after he was rysen frō death gathered his Apostles together and commaunded them to tarie at Hierusalem and to awayte for their confor●our the holy spirite whom he had promised to sende them when he departed in fleshe frō the earth And whilse he spake thus vnto thē he was in the sight of them all taken vp and a cloude couered hym And whylse they loked stedfastly vp into heauen beholdyng his goinge beholde ii men stode by thē in white garmentes whiche sayed Ye men of Galesee why stande you gasyng vp into heauen Thys same Iesus whiche is taken vp from you into heauen shal so come as you haue seene hym go into heauen He is gone none otherwyse but in the fleshe his fleshe therefore is not in the breade When he cometh agayne he shall come visibly euen as he went in the syght of them al as the angelles wytnes He is not therfore inuisible in the bread Nowe thys your opinion of his being vpon the earth in the fleshe and sufferyng of hym selfe to be hid in a litle boxe and such cakes whereof an hundrede are scarse worth one halfpeny is to shamfull There is no reuerence of God in his sonne remaynynge i●… your hertes And therefore as the Prophe●… Osee sayeth though God shewe the trueth of his lawe neuer so often vnto you yet do you take it but for a straung doctrine Wheras they do sacrifice sayth the Prophete offeryng the fleshe and eatyng it the Lorde wyll haue no pleasure therin but wyll remembre their wickednesse and punishe their synnes Israell woulde turne agayne into Egypte to the fleshe pottes They put fleshe theyr arme which is ment by seekinge to Egypte In many places of the kynges also Yea alwayes both in figures and open wordes the folowyng of the fleshe and outward holines whiche is communely voied of the spirite is sore rebuked greuously punished Therfore addeth the prophete They haue forgotten hym that made them they buylde churches and Iuda maketh many stronge bulworkes I wil therfore sende a fyre into their cities and it shall consume their palaices Agayne sayeth Ose As for the Prophete you holde hym a fole a●d hym that is ryche in the spirite for a madde man So greate is your wickednesse Fleshe you are fleshe you seeke voied and destitute altogether of the spirite of God the onely authour of al truth and vnfeyned holines Christe sayeth I tell you truth it is profitable to you that I go for if I do not go frō you the spirite of conforte can not come vnto you But if I go I shall sende hym vnto you These wordes were fyrste proued true in the Apostles whiche were conforted by the spirite after theyr mournyng for the bobily absence of theyr maister And nowe also doth it appeare true in you papistes that the liuely cōfort of the spirite is ●mally felt or regarded amōgest you whilse you thinke your selues to haue Christe bodily amonge you Agayne Christe sayeth vnto his father Thys is euerlastynge lyfe to knowe the onely the true God and whom thou hoste sent Iesu Christe You saye is euerlastyng lyfe and the chiefe misterie of our religion to knowe thys cake to be a God to knowe the wyne to be a whole Christe God and man where all faythfull hertes muste needes confesse that it is no god nor cā be god what so euer is made with mans hande For both the thinge that is made as the boke of wisedom telleth is inferiour to the man that made it and because mā him selfe is mortal the thing that he maketh cā not be god immortall But I knowe your answere The priest maketh it by the worde of God I answere you agayne We can neither see nor perceyue any maner of thynge there but onely the breade that is made by the hande of the bakar and therfore made and facioned by the handes of man who hath but a borowed spirite and vnhappie are they and amonge the deade is theyr hope that call them Gods whiche are the workes of mens handes Thys is the errour of mannes lyfe when men ascribe vnto stockes and stones and other vile creatures the name of God whiche ought to be gyuen vnto no creature Yea they are twise vnhappy and accursed that do hereby make the creature abominable also depriue the creatoure and maker of all of his dewe honoure But marke agayne that whiche Christ sayth in the same chapter of Iohn Nowe am I not in the worlde and these are in the worlde and
the olde testamēt where the Idoles of the heathē ar named in the singular 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and yet for to sett● forth the vnitie of the godhead alwaie with this worde 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of the plural nūbre is adioined a verbe of the singuler as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And also in the hygh name of God which the Iewes had in so high estimaciō 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which doth sig●ifie vnto vs that onely euerlasteing powre wherbi al thinges haue their being is manifestli opēed the vnitie indi●…sible Of this spirit is it writē thus He that hath not the spirite of Christe is none of hys And agayne Who so ener are led by the spirit of God they are ▪ the childrē of God So ▪ that as we can not be wythout God or Christe su can we not be wythout this spirite proceadeinge from them boeth as Christ him selfe witnesseth saieinge The conforter euen the holye goste whome my father shal sende in my name Againe Whā the holy ▪ goste shall come whom I shal send from my father Of this spirite dyd the prophetes speake muche vnder the name of water and fire as Esaie I shall poure forth my spirit vpō the thirstie mi●floudes vpon the drie land I shal poure forth my spirit vpon thy sede and my blesseing vpon thy buddes and the same shal saye I am the lordes Lyke vnto these are there other places as in Esaie xii Eze. xxxvi Psal C. xlvi lxiii This spirit together wyth the father and the sonne this Trinitie and Vnitie that can not be diuided do we belieue and teach not by a blynde saiynge of any doctoure as you do but by the worde of God and the worke of his spirite whiche is able to leade vs into all truth neuer faileth his church builded vpon the rock Christe agaynste the which the gates of hel can not preuaile For by this spirit thus workyng faieth in Christ and loue to God and ma● is knowne the true church as Iohn sayeth By thys do we knowe that we dwell in hym and he in vs because he hath geuen vs of hys spirite And Paule saieth generally to al● the faithful Do you not knowe that you are the church of God and the spirit of God dwelleth in you If any man do defile the tēple of God him wyl God destroye Thys church of God is holy which you are wher he doeth not meane of the Popes Churche though it wer builded of v. M. proude cardinales and bishopesse much les of our english church built vpō the blind ignorāce sinful lyueing but of x. o● xi horned Miters for three or foure of you woulde all were well so it were not longe of the●… but of that onely Churche whyche doeth alwayes knowe heare and folowe the voice of Christe the●● heade and shepeherde and wyll not harke● to the voyce of any stra●nger Who though they be but. ii or iii. gathered together in the name of Christe beinge alwayes dispersed abrode by the Idole shepherde yet is Christ in the middes of them and shal at the length gather them all in one that ther maye be one shepherde and one folde Thys church is washed this church is sanctified and made holie This churche is iustified by the name of the Lorde Iesu and by the spirite of oure God sayeth Paule Christe so loued thys churche that he spent him selfe for hyr to make hyr holye clen●ed throughe the fountaine of water by hys worde that he myght make hir vnto hym selfe a gloriouse churche haueinge no spot blemish or wrinckle or any such thynge But you wyl doubt still O byshopes whether of vs be thys church Whether you gloriouse in the worlde or we despiced Firste therfore marke the foūdaciōs of this church for ther can no man laie anye other then that is al redye layed the Lorde Iesu Christe ❧ The fyrst foundacion Whome the fayeth hath set as the chosen sto● for the foūdaciō of the tru church Sion ❧ The seconde foundacion Christe is the heade of thys churche ❧ The threde foundacion And heade shepeherde of thys folde For the fyrste all men iudge that you al ledgeinge so muche mans lawa●es establisinge and buildinge your fayeth wyth mans ●●ra●y settinge your cousciences vpon your doctours who are but fleshe and bloude do not so greately regarde Christe as we do whyche wyl haue hym oure onely foundacion and wyll admitte nothinge but that is spoken by hys spirite in his scriptures This fayle you in your fyrst foundacion Secondelye if Christe be heade and maister who dyd come humble meke and pore rideinge vpon an asse not hauinge an house where to ●aye hys heade dispisinge al worldly an outwarde glorie when the people would haue made him a kinge why do you ride on mules trapped wyth goulde Why haue you suche castelles holdes parckes and palaices Why wyll you be Lordes worldelie and take to you suche outwarde glorie Christe sayed that hys kyngedome was not of thys worlde and why wyl you beare suche rule heare Yea Christe forbade you to be called maister and why wyll you be called Lorde On the contrarie parte we haue the worde of Christ our heade for vs. Who sayeth Ther is no seruaunt greater then his Lorde and maister If they haue persecuted me they wil persecute you If they haue kept my word they wil kepe yours If the world do hate you knowe that it dyd hate me before it dyd heate you If you were of the worlde the worlde woulde loue that which is his owne But because you are not of the worlde but I haue chosen you forthe of the worlde therfore the worlde hateth you Yet do I leue you peace and my peace do I geue vnto you but not as the worlde geueth do I geue it vnto you ▪ Yea more ouer they shall curse and excommunicate you whyche was your olde practise o prealates and not onely that but the time shal come that who so euer sleath you shall thincke that he doeth high sacrifice vnto God And thys shall they do because they neither knowe my father nor pe● me Tyrdlye If Christe be the heade shepeherde and dyd for your exemple saye that the learneynge whyche he taught was not hys but his fathers that sent him howe da●e you be so boulde to grownde so many thynges on your doctours Christe cōmaundeth you to feade hys flocke but you ●…ea them Christ cōmaundeth you to edifie but you distroye Christe byddeth you go into all the world to preach his word to al the worlde and to preach hys worde to al creatures but you saie naye none shal haue it but gētlemē the other pore knaues shal haue a sophistrie boke of your gloses I praie you whōe make you the heade shepeherde in this and al your doeinges Not Christe but your doctours and Idle braines
To be shorte let any indifferent persone take in hande to iudge the life trade and learneinge of you byshopes and compare it wyth the doeinge of Christe and he shall fynde so muche diuersitie as betwen Christe and Antichrist To compare them also to Peter an Paule and other of the Apostles woulde s●ne declare the one parte to be naught they are so cōtrarie but they shalbe founde the folowers of Christe and therfore of the trwe churche and you the ▪ contrefaites yea the verie folowers of the Romeish Antichrist and therfore the sinnagoge of Sathā As for vs we wyll heare the voice of oure shepeherd onelie We will heare ▪ no straunger and therfore we haue no nede of any testimonie of man For the verie anointe inge teacheth vs to call Father father And the same spirite witnesseth vnto our spirit that wee are the chyldren of God For he that confirmeth vs to gether in Christe is God who hath also sealed vs and geuē the erneste of hys spirite in oure hertes And as Paule sayeth in the fyrste to the Ephesians to so manie as do beleue in the worde of truethe and the gospell of health you are sealed vp by the holy spirite a fore promised whyche is the ernest of oure heritage Therfore sayeth he aga●ne drawe no p●cke wyth the vnfayethful For what companye can ther be betwene the ryghteouse and the vnrigh●●ouse or wha● par●etakeing of the lyghte wyth darckenesse What concorde wyth Christe and Belial Or what parte can the fayethfull haue wyth the vnfathfull or howe can ●he churche of God agree wyth Idoles For you are the ●emple of the liueynge God as God sayede I wyll dwel in thē and walke in them and I wil be their God and they shall be my people c. And thys is the vniuersall churche scatered thorough out the worlde whiche we beleue not the churche of Rome Fraunce and Englande as Peter confessethe sayeinge I persei●e in deed that wyth God there is no regarde of persones but in euerie nacion he th●t feareth hym and worketh ryghtuousenesse he is acceptable● vnto him This church sufferreth alwaye wyth hir heade Christe wherefore she shall also reigne wyth hym alwayes and be glorified This is euē the felowship of sainctes that we do suffer together wyth oure heade and make perfite the afflictions whyche lacked vnto his bodye which is the church haueing one onli father in heauen one onely sauiour on erth one fayeth grounded on hys onely worde one baptisme of the spirite one hope of our calleing one heritage commune from Christe to all the whole feloshipe of sayntes and member● of hys bodie Haueinge the remission and forgeuenesse of oure sinnes as the whole scripture witnesseth be leueinge stydfastely the riseinge agayne of the fleshe as is moste playnely taught and euerlaste●nge lyfe as Iohn witnesseth that God hath geuen euerlasteinge lyfe And thys lyfe is in his sonne He that hath the sonne hath lyfe The spirit is it that witnesseth these thinges for the spirite is trueth and he that beleueth in the sonne of God hath this testimonie wit in hym selfe and he that doeth not beleue maketh God a liar These thinges haue I written that al men myght knowe our fayth not to be grounded on man but on goddes holy worde and that we doubt in noparte of the olde fayeth but onely vpon your newe articles and gloses ❧ The resolusion of certen doubtes contained in Winchesters booke THus haue I put you out of doubt ▪ that we doubte in no article of the christiā faith But I doubt that you b●e not yet out of doubte in those thinges that you doubt of in your detection amongest whych this is the greatest doubt You doubt you saye how the sonne of god whome you cal I●…sus shoulde be contained in the wōbe of the virgine Vnto this your boubt I answere that as he was and is God so was ▪ he and is wythout begining and ende And the heauen yea the heauen of al heauens can not containe hym much lesse a littlle boxe to be shut therin but as he was verie man so was it true that the prophete dyd speake That a woman shoulde cōpasse a man And thys body that was borne of of the woman can you not proue to be scatterred throught out all corners of the erthe and to be in heauen also For so shoulde you make hym a spirite and no bodye yea all together God no crature for no creature can be in ●…o places thē one at one cōtrari to the chieffest article of our faith which is that he was incarnat became mā like vnto vs in al thynges synne onelye excepted and that in the same fleshe he dyed once rose againe and ascended into heauen and there sitteth at the right hande of God the father from when 〈◊〉 he shall come euen verie man as he asended hauinge all the propreties of an incorruptible bodye that is to saye beinge visible and local haueing quantitie and qualities as his fayethfull disciples and Apostles sawe and perceined hym to haue after his resurrection whyche proprites declared hym to di●●er frō a spirite muche more from God as concerneinge the bodye wherin these qualitites be The godheade differeth and is knowne frō the bodye by that it is immense and can be cōtayned in no place neither is it sensible nor can be perceiued by any of the senses Wher as contrariwyse the bodye is sensible and maye be boeth felt and sene and must nedes be alwayes contained in some one place other else is it no bodie And thought by miracle God haue caried any corporall bodie frō place to place cōtrarie to the cours of nature as he dyd Elias in the firely chariot Or as he caried Abacuke for the confort of daniell and as the spirite of God toke awaye Philip when he had christened the Ennuche of quene Candaces and set him at Azotū And as by the spirite Peter was brought out of prisone taken from the foure quaternians of souldiours hys bodye lowsed forth of all the chaines and prisons sodaynelye yea the ●ate of Irone openeinge agaynste hym contrarie to the naturall order yet can no man proue by these or any lyke miracle that one bodye hath ben in ii places at once much les that any of these bodies maie be eueri where as you do maynetayne by miracle of Christ comeinge into the house when the Apostles had shette the dores and wyndowes for the feare of the Iewes that the natural bodye of Christe maye be in ten thousande boxes and aultres when you do not knowe whether the dores dyd open agaynst Christe as the Iron gate dyd agaynst Peter But you bringe in your sophistrie agaynste al reasone wyth out any scripture and therfore wythout any fayeth affirmeinge that ii bodies are in one place together occupi the same place at one time which neither faieth reasone nor any of the sēses that
begin ninge who commynge downe from oure heauenlye father dyd declare hym selfe to be the hed corner stone of the true church thoughe the byshoppes refused hym in their buildeinge And when he ascended vp agayn leading capteyue wyth hym captiuitie hyrselfe he gaue gyftes vnto menne makynge one sorte Apostles an other sorte Prophetes some other Euangelistes some Shepeherdes and ●eachers These onely be appointed to be the ministers of his church in the new testament that they shoulde all together in spirite and trueth boeth worship him and cause other to do the same for the spirite is the worcker of al diuiding to eueri one as pleaseth him The bodye of thys churche then is not one membre as of long tyme you haue named your selues onely to be the church but it is many membres as the Apostle witnesseth amonge the whyche membres I feare me you shall not bee worthy to be numbred onles you do amende your life so contrarie to Christ the heade of this churche For thys churche hath he begotten vnto hym selfe by his worde as the parent and onely mother therof that it should be without spot or wrinkle gloriouse holy and without blame and especially saithe Paul the bisshope muste be such a one that no man sholde find any faute with him Thus writethe he to his dearely beloued Timothe and Titus makinge it moste euident and playne vnto vs that you bishopes prestes teachinge for your gaine sake or els teachinge nothinge at all are not the true byshopes and members of the true churche but the hierlinges and hypocrites that haue no parte in the Kyngdom of God and his Christe who dyd come ▪ pore not hauinge wher to laie his heade and dyd chuse pore sheperdes to be his first witnesses and after them fishers toulers and tentmakers And the words that he spake to his disciples are far ouer harde for you byshopes to bear Who so doeth not saieth he for sake father mother goodes lyfe and al together for my sake and the Gospell can not be my disciple Moreouer wher as the bishops of the Iewes and chife priestes doe crie Tēplum domini Templum domini As thoughe they them selues and none other were the true church Christe answereth that the sonne of man shalbe betraied to the chief priestes and they shall condemne hym vnto the death so that they were none of the trwe churche thoughe they were of the seéde of Leui to whome the gouernance ▪ of the churche was promised and performed In like maner you so longe as you persecute Christe hys members and burne his worde crie you holie church neuer so much you shalbe no more of the true churche then ▪ they were For ther is all one worcke and purpose in you boeth that is to saye to miantayne your pompe and estimacion your powre and your holynesse before the people But now is the time come that the thing which ▪ was most holy in the sight of the world as you your iewels haue bene shalbe abominable ▪ vnto God Yet one other thing nothinge pleasaunte to your lordlike stomakes He that wilbe the cheife in this church must be the seruante of al Like as the sonne of manne did come not that he shulde haue seruice done vnto hym but that he him selfe shuld serue and giue his soule for many As many therfore as we finde agreable withe this heade Christ as were the. xij Apostles and all the true disciples who continued together in the breaking of breade and praier acceptinge none of the possessions of this worlde as their owne but makinge all that was theirs commune to the necessitie of their brothers we esteme to be the true and faiethful membres of this church Paule also geueinge him selfe for the Gospell to be imprisoned stoned and slayne was of thys churche Stephane also stoned for the defence of GOD his glorie and Antipas the true and fayethfull witnesse of Christ slaine at Pergamis Ignatius the scholar of Iohn who suffred for the Gospel Ignatius I saié Who so ernestly desired the breade of God the heauēly bread of life whiche is the flesh of Iesu Christ the sonne of the liuing God who was borne in the last ende of the world of the seede of Dauid and Abraham and desyred to drincke the bloude of hym that is wythout corruption and the life euerlasting All these I saye we knowe to be the lyuelye membres of Christes true churche but not these onelye whiche sufferred vnder the Romishe tirantes but theim also the whiche in al countreis and at al tymes haue witnessed and suffered for the trueth ▪ of God his word for all are created for hys glorye and God hath not at any tyme or in any place ben altogether without hys witnesses if the world woulde receiue theim He sente into oure na●ion Iosephe of Aramathia He stirred vp Gildas he enstructed the plowemen o● kent and other contries of whome we haue the monumentes After warde dyd he sende Robert Grosheade who boeth by worde and by writinge dyd rebuke the worlde of blynde iudgement Then came the greate clarke that wrate so mani godli bokes Iohn Wicklife of whose workes though Subincolepus the bishop of Prage did bren to the uombre of two hundred yet are ther manie of them reserued vn to thys daye by the prouision of God to the cōfusion of the kingdome of Antichrist cleare testimonie that the worlde before vs hath not ben vtterly destituted of true know ledge thoughe frome tyme ▪ to tyme whan the lyghtte hath come into the worlde the kingdome of darckenes the children of prid● haue loued darkenesse better then light and therfore haue laboured to extinguishe it and haue prohibited these bright sterres to geu● lighte saue onelye to a fewe whome he had chosen and longe a fore appoynted euen to the weake abiectes and caste awaies in the sight of the world of the whyche sorte parte were slaine and part liued vnknowne to the worlde for this litle flocke euen from the beginninge hath not bene of the wife and stout worldely men and therefore sayeth Christ I thanke the father that thou haste hid these thynges frome the wyse and prudent and haste shewed the same to littleones smallye regarded And Esaie saieth I wyll destroie the wisedome of the wise and the vnderstāding of the prudent wyl I caste awaye And agayne Where is the wise Where is the scribe and interpreter of the law wher is the disputer of this worlde Hath not the Lorde made folyshe the wisdome of this worlde For after that the worlde by hir wysedome could not know God in his wisdom it pleased god by the folishenesse of preachinge to make salfe them that beleue This preachinge of the liuing god whiche sent his sonne an euerlasting sacrifice for the lyfe of the worlde caused the sacrifices to waxe colde and that was it that caused the priestes of the Iewes to persecute the christians so sore that
I come to the O father Saue them euē for thy names sake whom thou haste gyuen vnto me that lyke as we are one so they may be one also Whē I was in the worlde I dyd kepe them in thy name So often it is sayed that Christe is gone furth of the worlde that he is not in the worlde If he were here God and man what needeth these thynges to be so of●… rehearsed What needeth the cōfort of the spirite to be alwayes appointed set furth and neuer once named for theyr cōforte that they should haue Christe presēt with them so ofte as they luste to whisper a fewe wordes ouer a piece of breade These thinges haue you occasioned me to speake by the naming of the circūstāces For thei are spokē in cōtinual course after the supper was done vnto the tyme that Iudas came to betraye hym And I suppose you haue no one place of scripture that hath so many circumstances to declare it not to be spoken as the wordes seme as thys hath As 〈◊〉 Theophilactus maketh rather with vs thē against vs for he seeketh the meanynge by circumstances and stycketh to the wordes in theyr commune senses but we wyll not contende aboute trifles Sōtime they preach and sōtime they write to the vnlearned on this wise Christes wordes be true when he sayed this is my body But as he ment thē For so he saied he was awai he was a vine he was a dore but he was not a natural vine he was no suche way as mē walke in no such dore as mē do cōmonly enter into but only a sēblan̄ce of al these because he is our way to heauē our dore to enter into lyfe oure vinestocke in whom we as braunches be nourished kept in life And so likewise whē Christ sayeth this is my body he meaneth only that it is a resēblaunce a figure a tokē a signe of his body etc. These wordes cā you reproue none other wise but the Deuil saith so might a yonge sophister confute all your boke at one worde truly say that the Deuil sayth it But it is mere sophistry you say for in those other places the mattier sheweth that they be spokē in parable And why doth not the mattier shew the same here I pray you because you do say so or because your father of Rome and his doctours dyd teache so euer sence he ga●e the primamacie and vpper hāde of kinges emperours these viii C. yeres as you name it If the presumption of longe tyme be a sufficiēt argumēt against the truth thē cal againe the Pope the worshipping of images begon in Babilon settinge vp the Image of Belus and continued alwayes in some corner of the worlde vnto this day But nowe you thinke you haue hit the nayle on the heade and you wery your selfe longe about thys mattier Christ spake sōtime in parables but therfore we maye not say that he spake alwayes in parables You neuer harde vs thus reason frō the particuler to the vniuersall proposition But we being taught by the circumstances of the place and by the whole course of scripture of the bodily departing of Christ and of the spiritual eatyng of his body do lykewyse open this text this is my bodie by playne textes both of the old and new testamēt where one thing is named to be the thing which it only representeth in figure shadowe as are these in the olde testamēt The. vii fat oxē are vii yeres of plētie and the. vii leaneones are vii yeres of scarsitie Also the sacrifices are called the sinnes of the people The red heyfer is the synne The priest eateth the synne of the people It is the passeouer of the Lorde The circumsition is called the couenaunte And such lyke In the newe testamente The stone was Christe Thys is Helias And by wordes spoken of the same sacrament at th● same time This cup is the newe testament which you must needes graunt to be spoken in parable and figure But marke the mattier wythout malice We maye not nor wyll not saye that Christ dyd speake alwayes in parables No more maye you saye that Christe doth not speake here in a parable onlesse you can proue it to be trewe by some other meanes then your owne wordes wrytinges which are these Est signifieth beinge and the learned can not be deceiued good men can not be moued Thus bringe you in false interpretations of your owne faynynge to make the mattier odious As thoughe any of vs at any tyme out of place did deny the name of Christ to haue his owne euident signification of Christes owne person But your malice and the Deuyl whom you name so often blyndeth you and couetise leadeth you captiue I coulde answere Ciprian with an other of your doctours but as I tolde you in the begynnynge and as Paule affirmeth oure fayth may haue his foundation onely on the hearynge of the worde of God without the which worde what so euer any doctour bringeth we may not fay aue vnto it nor receiue it for feare leste we be part takers of their yuel workes and writinges Let thē beware therefore that affirme without the worde of God that the breade is chaunged in nature and that it is made fleshe cōtrarie to the scriptures whiche teache that Christe is gone in the fleshe and shal come agayne visible as he went cōtrary to fayth whiche can seeke hym in no place but where he hym selfe assigneth that is to say sittinge at the righte hande of his father tyll he haue made his enemie his fote stole yea cōtrary to reason and the commune iudgemente of the senses and therefore agaynste all the knowledge that man can haue in thys worlde folowyng so much their superstition and outwarde shewe of wysedome that they are deceyued in thinges open by nature vnto their senses Nowe whether of vs are more lyke the Caparnites we that professe wyth the Apostles that Christe hath the wordes of lyfe and do beleue and teache that his doctrine is not carnall but spirituall and his wordes spirite and lyfe or you that carnallie and grosselie do beleue that he muste be eaten as he wente vpon the earthe fleshe bloude and bones whyche the Caparnites dyd seeke for and the carnall disciples dyd flee from hym for the same All christian hertes and spirituall eyes maye easilie iudge The Apostles sittynge at the table dyd not fall downe and worshyppe thys breade newlie made God as you call it whyche is an euident argumente that they had it in no suche estimation as you haue it And that they made no demaunde or questian as they dyd at other tymes of doubtes in Christes speakynge maye be a token that they were vsed and exercised wyth the familiar phrase of ea●ynge Christe by fayth and therefore was it comfortable to them to be taughte presently in open signes howe they shoulde euer after haue hym
An ansvver to the deuillish detection of Stephane Gardiner Bishoppe of Wynchester published to the intent that such as be desirous of the truth should not be seduced by hys errours nor the blind obstinate excused by ignorance Compiled by A. G. Iudicum vi ¶ Oh let thē perish from the erth and from vnder the heauen all the Idoles that haue not made the heauē the erthe destroye you theyr groues and altares If they be goddes let them reueng them selues ¶ Anno. 1547. the. 24 of Ianuary ¶ In the viii leafe i. page and xiiii line for staine mne reade same mine To the Reader DEarely beloued bought wyth the same bloude and therfore parte takers of the same kyngedome because the Lorde oure God is the God of knowledge and wyll haue suche seruauntes as by knowledge in trueth wythout fleshely fantasies either of fained goddes or any fonde worship of mans madde brayne who alwaies from the beginneinge hath renne after vanities wyll be radie to geue answere of their faieth in him the God of lyfe and of the hope conceiued by his onely worde it becometh all his ●o labour for knowledge that they maye walke vpright in the waie of their Lorde and by no halting ignoraunce to slide furth of the same and so to prouoke his worthi displeasure And as he is the God of loue peace vnitie and concorde and will haue vs al tied together with the bonde of loue and made therby in hym all one bodie so doeth it become vs wyth open hertes wythout all doublenesse one to enstructe an other to the edifiynge of oure brethern that in sure grownded fayth we maye loue together and so enioye the hope of our vocacion Therfore though mi talent bee verie smal and no principall gifte either of eloquence or learninge but onely a loue of the trueth geuen vnto me yet seinge the worlde is so blinded with Idolatrie and so beewitched with popishe sophistrie and euen nowe the spirittes and powers of darcknes worcke the chiefe mysterie of iniquitie and wickednesse to set vp and maintaine the moste weake Idole that euer was in the worlde in the steade of the most mightie and euerliuinge God I coulde thincke it no lesse thē my most bounden dutie openly to beare wittnesse vnto the truthe And where as the wordes of truth haue bene slandrously and spitfully named the saieinges of the deuil by the spiritual crafte of a souldiour of Sathā which by painted wordes woulde transform him self into an angel of lyght Whose boke is spred euerie where and receiued in manie places more reuerentlie then the blessed bible the holie worde of God Yet no mā hath so farre as I know once opened his mouth or taken penne in hand to make answere to this blasphemouse messenger of the proude Senacherib neglectinge the liueinge God for the littel I dole that he maketh God or no God at hys pleasure who suffreth Mise to eate him and the wicked to deuoure him Lette all other men do as they shall thyncke good wyth silence to let suche thynges slip Truly if I coulde saye nothinge thereunto but onely naye denienge Idolatrie and renouncynge all supersticion therin maintained I iudge it my parte to publishe my faith rather then by my silence to seame to consent to suche diuillishe doctrine So also do I esteme it the dutie of the faithful in this perillous tyme plainely to professe the Lord the liueuinge God to be the onely God in heauen a boue and in the erth beneth leste bi our silence for sakinge hys cause here vpon erth we be forsaken in his heauenly palace For lyke as in herte we do beleue to oure rightuousnes so must we necessarily confesse to oure saluacion as Paule teachethe We must beware as Paule warnethe and the bishope taketh the same text first ofal that our senses be not corrupted from the simplicite and sing lenesse that is in Christe as the serpent begiled Eua. We knowe but one God We are maried vnto one We knowe but one Christ made man and none other creature for ourcause This thing as we beleue it in herte so muste we in mouth ●o●fesse the same if we wyll walke in the simplicitie and sing linesse that is in Christe as becometh christians For if the hert and mouth go together then is it sing lenesse otherwise it is doublenesse and dissembling But there is one other simplicitie as it hath bene compted as the worde hath bene abused which is verie folishnes This maye we cal the simplicitie that Antichriste woulde haue styl to reigne amonge vs and therefore his champion when he brought in the texte of Paulle lefte out the principall wordes Que est in christo Whyche is in Christe as their olde texte hath it And thorowe out hys whole boke he woulde driue vs to be simple That is to saye to folowe as we be led like blinde men that the proude papisticall prelates still leadeinge vs into the pitte of perdicion abuseing our wines and goodes maye saye in their connentes Let them alone let them offer still vnto Imeages a pice of bread or any thinge else of a good intent all is well done that is done of a good intent They maye worship a stocke or a stone let them folow their auncient fathers They are good simple soules They do as we and oure doctours teach thē If we let thē knowe al trueth they wilbe as wise as we and then they wyll smally regarde vs. Thys is their workeinge these are their wordes howe so euer they haue clok●d hertofore all the worde nowe seeth it Let vs beware therfore of this thir simplicitie and let vs no longer thynke that this their doctrine is'true that al should he well done that is done for a good intent and that it is well done in all thinges to beleue theyr doctours For this ignorante opinion that thei haue grounded in their hertes hath hitherto stopped the waie to all knowledge and nowe letteth faith to be grounded and causeth men to continew styll in their olde errowres wythout any desire to come out of blindnesse Consider therefore good reader a gaynste their blinde lessons that Saull was caste from hys kyngedome for his good intent euen because he intended to do sacrifice vnto the Lorde of the best and fatteste of the Amalechites And yet maye thys seme a gloriouse intent The bishoppes of the Iewes and the Idolatours of al ages folowed theyr good intent euen when they put Christ and all hys prophetes and Apostles to death The byshop of Norwich when he burned pore Bilney folowed his good intent our other byshopes also burneninge and murtheringe theyr bretherne in prisone and out of prisone folowed theyr good in tentes But God is the iudge of the intētes and thoughtes of vs al and sercheth the verie raine and the holes of our hertes Yea the lord our god abhorreth and the prophetes reproue vs alwayes because we wyll do euerie man that semeth good in his owne
sophistrie is betwene the words and the meaneinge wherein the deuell shifteth the mattier thus Where the wordes of scripture be plaine euident manifest and cōfirme the catholike truth ther the deuill diuiseth an other meaneing adu●…eth his scholers that the words be nothing without the meaning and therfore sayeth he we must vnderstand Christes wordes as he ●…eut thē therfore saith the deuil be ware of the words take hede to the meaning Christ saith the deuil saith this is my bodie But take hede sayth the deuill what Christ mēt Thus far you bring in the wordes of the diuell you saie Nowe if you wyll geue me leaue to bring in your wordes folowing a litel after thei wil declare the meaning of these faithfull interpretours of Christes wordes whom you do slaunder by the name of sathā the deuil for non other cause as I suppose but for that you lacke mattier scriptures and substācical argumētes Your wordes be these Who so hath the wordes of scripture per uersely taken is therwith infected and poisoned to his cōfusion as the Arians and Sabel liās and an infinite numbre of heretikes haue ben So that it must nedes be grāted that in the meaning of scriptur is the marow and kenel the swetenes the fode the hony of scripture without which the words be bitter shale and an hard bone without fode or sustinance This must nedes be cōfessed of al men as an euident truth ¶ Hitherto you agre ful wel but nowe lo you braste fourth into your father lyke eloquence and say The deuil abuseth this by ca●ellaciō and sophistrie to ouertourne the trueth in the most bessed sacrament of the aultare It is a more redy maner of sophistical solusiō thā substā●ical forme of artificicial cōfutacion to crie cauillation cauillaciō sophistrie sophistrie the deuil saeth it when you your selfe doo speake the same thynge Forther more you adde herunto these wordes It is in dede a t●ue lessō that the verie word of God is the true meaning of scripture If you would speak plainli saie the cōparing of scriptures whiche are the verie word of god vttereth the wil meaning pleasure of God vnto vs you shoulde make much for our purpose If you saye otherwyse that the worde is the meaning you make the letter to be the spirit the bitter shale to be the kernel it selfe for such is your owne similitude Yea If the verie word be the meaning so that we mai waigh no farther which thinge if you be●…ed in herte you would not sticke so much to your own interpretaciōs I could driue you to much incōuenience But how whau the scriptures ar to be examined and the tru meaning as the kernel to be tried the old rule of al ages mai lead and teach sufficiētly That is that no one place of scripture be set or aledged cōtrarie to other But if suche one place bee alledged it ought to be declared and made playne by the cōpareing of mo places more plaine by the sence and vnderstandinge agreable vnto the faythe gethered of other Reade the rule of Augustyne for that same purpose how scripture which cōmaundeth any absurditie is to be vnderstāded Thē saye you But for the openynge of thys sophistrie it is to be cōsidered that somtime in scripture the wordes be so placed and ordeyned as the meanynge is vttered and opened wyth the wordes at once and hath such lyght of the wordes as they appeare both to gether and wythout farther serche be strayte co●ueyed to our vnderstādynge If these wordes This is my bodie this cuppe is the newe testament were so playne for your purpose that they neded no farther serche or interpretacion what neded it you to seeke these gloses The bodie is in the qualities accidentes quātities dimēsions ann other pretie wordes whiche I am sure can not be founde among the wordes of god noz his sonne Christ really carnally naturally and other termes of trāsubstāciasiō bisides other wrasted gloses That the cup is not the newe testamēt but the whole bod● flesh and bones as wel as it is in the bread and such like But by your straite slightes and subtile interpretasiōs it may be percey●ed that these word● are such as folowe Somtime againe the wordes be suche and so placed that they bring not theyr meanyng straight wyth thē in the same lyght but more darkely and as it were hyd vnder the words Your scripture Humiliauit hespethe to fyll your boke more ouer you saye When we reade of Christ that he sayed hym selfe I am a waye I am a dore I am a vpne here should the meanynge be callid for and here should good men say these wordes must be taken as Christ ment them For the meaning is hyden and apeareth not straight wyth the wordes which be suche as in their cōmune knowne sens be not spokē of Christ but by a similitude and in an other meaning as the circūstances of the place do declare b● which circumstaunces the wordes varie frō theyr cōmune significacion So likewise must we like good men call for the meanynge of these wordes Thys is my bodie This cuppe is the newe testament seynge we know perfectly that in the ●ōmune seus and significatiō nether the bred is Christes bodie nor the cup the newe testament And seynge that we haue so iust occasion offered of the circumstances First let vs loke what Christ did intende at his last supper when he spake the●e wordes Truly his intent was to admonishe his disciples that all the olde sacrifices of the olde testamente which wer but shadowes shoulde in thys onely offeringe of hys bodie vpon the crosse haue an ende as he him selfe sayeth vnto thē before he goeth from supper The thynges that wer of me haue an end according to the psalme Sacrifice and oblatiō thou wouldest not but a bodie thou hast ordeyned me And also to arme them wyth cōfortable wordes a gainst the daingers that were at hand boeth of hys betraynge by hym that did eat of the same dyshe wyth hym selfe and of hys death and departynge forth of the world as appeareth in all the Euaugelistes but especialli in Iohn the. xiii xiiii xv xvi xvii Chapi I besech al christen herts to marke the circumstāces and iudge whither they do leade Christ saieth in the. xxi of Luke Wyth gret desyre haue I desiered to eate this passeouer wyth you before I suffer Christ ioyneth together this olde sacrifice of the passeouer and the geuyng of hys bodie in this only ceremonie Wherfor we may not part them in searchinge the meanynge of hys worke and wordes seinge that he hym selfe coupled thē to gether bothe in dede and speache We must therfore cōsider and marke how and after what maner Christe and his disciples are named to eate the passeouer when they eate the lambe onely which was onely the signe or remēbraunce of the
vi Hebru viii ix x. xii i. Thess iiii i. Petre. ii So that by the scriptures we muste needes be compelled to deny the bodie of Christ and his humaine nature to be nowe any where vpon the earth ●or els with the Marcionistes muste we take from him the veritie of his body and deny that he hath a body according to our nature This thinge doeth Augustine handle at large in the epistle he writeth to Dardamꝰ vnto whom I sende you that sticke so muche to doctours There he teacheth you that as he is God Christe is in euery place But in that he is man he is in heauen onely whiche all the scriptures do testifie And it is the chiefest poynte of oure beliefe that he is in heauen and sitteth at the righte hande of the father Nowe our fayth which can be grounded on no manne● sayinge can seeke him in non● other place but where the worde of Christ declareth him to be seinge Christe hym selfe warneth vs that false prophetes shall come and saye lo here is Christ lo there is Christ and commaundeth vs that in nowife we beleue them But we shall then onely loke for him when he shal come with such shyne and brightnesse as is the lighteninge from the east to the west thorowout the whole world Which wordes thoughe they maye be well vnderstande of the fall and decaye of al these outwarde rites wherein the Iewes and hypocrites of all tymes haue set the high worshippe and kingdome of God and also of suche seducers as woulde promise them selues false Christes and sauiours yet neuertheles as the spirite of God hath al thinges present whiche are whiche haue bene and shall be so are the wordes of the spirite generall seruing for all tymes fit apte and meete to reproue al abuses And here may we plainly espie that they are spoken agaynste al maner of bodily presence of Christe both in the aultares here and there in the breade and in the chambers and corners where he is holdē vp and shewed betwene the priestes fingers to be worshipped But if you desire yet some one place of scripture so plaine that it can not be resisted by any gloses or sophistrie but that it shall stande plaine contrarie and cantradictorie to your doctrine reade the thirde of the Actes That heauen muste receyue and haue Iesu Christe vnto the tyme that all thinges be restored The wordes of that place are verie playne for he doeth not onely make Iesu Christe a very man as Moyses was whose nature was not to be in two places at once but he addeth also these playne wordes That the heauen muste receyue thys same Iesu Christ vnto the tyme that al thinges be restored Quē oportet celum accipere vsque ad tempus restitutionis omnium Thus do we procede therefore Christe hath by his departynge his sittynge at the ryghte hande of his father and returnynge agayne at the tyme appoynted so playnely appoynted by the scriptures one onely place where we shall seeke his naturall bodie that so many of vs as wyll not stryue agaynste the manifest trueth can not double but that his bodie remayneth there onely where he sheweth hym selfe to be We conclude therefore that it is contrarie to Christes religion to seeke him vpō the earth enclosed in a box Secondly Christe hath shewed where he wyll be vntyll the daye of iudgement that is to saye at the right hande of God his father tyll that he hath made all his enemies his fote stole Wherefore we can seeke hym in none other place wyth sure fayeth to fynde hym Thirdly agaynste your whole doctrine that the bodie of Christe maye be infinitely scattered thorowout the world and your wordes a litle after folowyng which are that the humaine bodie is not diuisible by tyme or place wherin you do cōfound the natures of Christ 〈◊〉 giue that vnto the māhode which is onely the proprietie of the godheade and so opē the way vnto two heresies we haue the plaine testimonie of the Angel You do seeke Christe crutified he is rysen he is not here Where as if his māhode had ben infinite as is the godhead thē shoulde he haue ben there presēt For no mā cā deny but there was his godhead presently Neither cā you escape by this cauillatiō that then he is infinite indiuisible 〈◊〉 without circūscriptiō of time or place whē you wil haue him like as you do multiply your cakes into millions and thousādes of thousādes at Easter whiche do al perishe as it were in a momēt for that which is infinite or indiuisible cānot chaung the nature to haue his bondes and finite order aypoynted him Wherfore we do most truly cal God his power only infinite where man in al his nature hath his determinate measure of substāce quātities qualities and knowledge as appeareth in Christe who as he was very mā did not knowe the houre and time of the day of iudgement of all fleshe was enclosed in the graue and dyd walke vpon the earth and appeare alwayes vnto his disciples in that sorte and maner that at no tyme any occasion myght be taken that he infinitly did fyll all places no not that at any tyme he mighte appeare to be in two places at once all his miracles do so faythfully witnes and reporte the truth of his humaine nature and natural body whiche your vaine opinion of enclosing him in breade and making him infinite goeth about to subuert But nowe when you haue no scripture to proue your mattier true that Christ as he is man maye be in heauen and yet fyll all the Aultares of the earth you do renne to the sayinge of Esaie the prophete If you beleue not you shall not vnderstande The whiche wordes beinge spoken to Achas and the vnfaythful house of Dauid that was afraied at the comming of two kinges of Syria and Damascus whom the prophet doth threaten to be destroyed because Achas wyll not beleue serue nothynge to your purpose The wordes be these If you do not beleue the cause is you wil not be faythfull And so agreeth it well with the wordes folowing when Achas wil aske no signe Is it but a small thynge sayeth Esaie to werie men wyth your infidelitie onelesse you do werie my God And thus in the trewe sense we maye ryghtly tourne it vpon your owne heades whyche wyll wery boeth God and man wyth your braynelesse Imaginations and wyll not beleue the open worde of God because you are vnfaythfull Then come you in wyth your Lordelyke sentence In thys high misterie where God worketh his speciall worke miraculous●ie it is sufficiēt to knowe that it is wrought though I can not tell howe it is wrought nor howe it agreeth wyth other his workes I marueile bishoppe Stephane that you wax not ashamed of your writing You saye that here is a wonderfull miracle wrought but you knowe not howe it is wroughte nor oure senses vnderstandynge and fayth
and truth wil I be worshiped And suche worshipers do I seke as with pure mindes flye vp aboue the heauens and wishe that myne impere and kingdome maye be delated and my name helowed and renow●●ed celebrated and prased in al though al creatures Such worshipers I saie do I seke as can cōprehend and perceiue Christ sitting ▪ at my right hand and wyll seke hym without the helpe of any creature These worshipar wyll I regarde and to their sacrifices wil I haue respect For their high bishop hath an euerlasting priesthod wherbi he may fully saue al thē that wil com vnto me by him whom I haue made the gouernour of holy thynges and of the true ta bernacle which I my selfe and not man haue made which must therfore be cōprehended receiued without the help of any creature vpon earth neither must these worshipers seke Christe here nor ther nor renne after him in anie places vpon earth where any man shall name him to be Muche lesse shall these true worshipers seke me the incomprehensible God tyed to any one place or creature for heauen is mi seate and thearth my fotestole euen as my prophete Esaie dyd witnesse vnto you when he demaunded what house you wold build vnto me or what place I woulde reste in seinge that my hande hath made all My seruaunt Paule also hath sayed vnto you that I the Lorde God haue made the worlde and al that is therin yea the heauens also haue I made howe shoulde it be thē that I might dwell in temples made with mans hande who is one of the creatures that I my selfe haue made And euē as I dwell not in the temples made with mans hand so am I not worshiped wyth the workes of mans hād as once standing nede of any thinge For I the Lord geue breath to al liuing thynges and haue of one bloude made al the kinde of man and haue caused hym to spread ouer the whole face of earth appointinge prescript tymes and limeting the borders of their dwellynges that they maye seeke me theyr God and trye whether they can by gropeing find me Yet not withstandeinge I am not far frō euerye one of you For through me you are do lyue and are moued So that ther is no ignoraunce canne excuse you because you nede not ●o secke my kyngedome farther then in your selues And to ressemble my Godly powre and worshippe wyth golde siluer stone or ani other creatture named and cōuerted into the stead of me the onelie and almightie your god you shall not be excused ●i any ignoraunce for by my workes you maie knowe me from my worckes and much more from your owne worckes If you therfore can not be able resemble my godlie powre by any of your Imaginacions howe muche lesse able shal you be to shet vp me the immortal immensurable and incomprehensible God whom the heauen of heauens is not able to conteine in a little box of golde siluer or any other meatall in breade wine or any other creature setteinge vp a newe and strainge I dole of the whiche neyther you nor your fathers haue hearde one worde of my mouth imagineinge a strange worship of your own Idle braines not withstandeinge that my sonne Christe doeth crie agaynst you sayeinge In vaine do you worshipe me teacheinge the doctrines and preceptes of men His most fayethful seruauntes also ceased not to threaten sharpe plages vnto all them that shoulde adde to or take fro chaunge or alter any one worde of all that theye had receiued of their Lorde the father of spirites Wherfore because your fathers haue for saken me and folowed strange gods serued them and worshiped them they haue forsaken me ▪ and my lawe haue they not kept And you haue done worsse thē your fathers For euery one of you walketh after the wickednes of his owne herte striuinge alwaies howe you maye stop your eares agaynste my wordes and admonicions Loo therfore I wyl fyll all the inhabitauntes of the earth and the kynges which sit in their hygh thrones the preistes and the Prophetes together with drunkennes And I wyl scatter theym one brother from another and the father frō the chylde I wil not spare them nor haue pitie on them but wil vtterly destroy them Harken and geue eare and beware you do not rage for the Lord hath spokē it Geue glory vnto the Lord your God before it wax darke and before your fete do stumble in the darke hilles when you shal loke for lyghte and lo ther is nothynge but the shadowe of death and deepe darkenesse Oh Popes and Princes and glorious Prelates high coūterfait names called byshops to you al I saye whych holde the worlde in darkenes If the Morian can chaunge his skinne or the Leoparde her spottes then can you also do well suckyng wickednes with the mylke of your mothers This shalbe your charge therfore and the portion prepared for you Because you forget me and trust vnto lyes I wil disclose your thoughtes and your shame shall appeare Your lustes your lechery your wiked fornication shall I disolose Let no man praye for thys sorte of people They synne vnto death and their plages are vncurable If you faste I wyll not heare your prayers If you offre offerynges I wyll not receyue them For when you were corrected with famine you dyd not regarde it Whē you were chastened whyth the pestilence and diseases you refused al discipline Stormes tēpestes and earthquakes flo●des and breaches of the sea you count not to be sent by my hāde One of you therefore shal dygge in the bealy of an other and you shall be consumed with the sworde of my furie Lo I wyll sende fishers whiche shall f●she after you by the sea and hunters whiche shall hunte you in euery hyll mountayne and cragy rocke For myne eyes are vpon your wayes and shortly I wyll sende my spirites whiche I haue created for a vengeaunce the fyre the stormy hayle famyne death the teeth of beastes serpentes and the sworde whiche beinge readie in my wrathfull displeasure do torment all thynges at my commaundemente and especially death bloude debate oppression tiranny and the sworde are create for the wicked and therwyth I beate downe myne enemies be they neuer so proude I the Lorde do create all these thynges that my name maye be terrible vnto the heathen and my power knowne thorowout the earth I demaunde of you O Byshoppes of my flocke I wyll aske you stande vp and gyue me answere of your wayes Is there any of your newe founde Goddes that can gyue you rayne or that can saue them selues from the tiranny if neede require Is there any of these Goddes that can saue hym selfe and his worshyppers furth of my hande when I sende fyre and the sworde vpon them Yea tell me thys rather Hath either you or your parentes founde any wyckednesse in me that you are departed from me and folowe vanities
aduaunce your kind aboue the Angels And now you wyl haue hym cowpled with your wrechede creatures worse then your selues But he hath taken the forme of the children of Abraham And for his elect seed was he cōtent to be come man disdayneing all other formes Loke no more therfore for my son Christe vpō the earth in the bread the box or the chalice But heare in heauen shal you seke hym wher he reigneth at libertie with me his father from whom he sendeth down the holie gost the spirite of comforte into the hertes of mine elect to strengthen them against all the assaultes of the serpent I feade inwardly my shepe driuē from the pasture of my word Yea I geue life euerlasting to so many as by him onely wyll come to me his father Thus doeth he sitte at my ryght hande and fulfilleth al in al things spiritually Not beinge bodylie present in euery place where you wyll like charmers mūble foure words vpon dombe creatures Here in heauen you are sure to haue him your aduocate In the bread you haue no such promise With what fayeth then can you seke him ther. He promised you that he woulde sende the holie gost after his going frō you but he neuer taught that he was profitable to be chaunged into breade When he returned vnto me frō the earth then did he send in fyrie tonges visibly the spirite of our powre wisdom which taught the cleare vnderstandynge of the misterie that he had wrought before in the earth This spirite taught the hope of your callinge and that our wonderful worke in you that beleue how that I raysed my son Christ from death and set him at my right hande in heauenly thinges Whense you would most vilaniousely pluck him down turne him into bread and swalowe him like flesh into your bealies which grosse blindnesse and Sythiā crueltie my flol●…l abhor My flocke shal learne nowe other ●…inge of the flesh of my sonne Christ ▪ ●ut that onely which is by the knoweledg●… and beleueing of my mercies in my sonne ●…nd therfore shall they follow no tradicions of the world nor sticke to any creatures but say with mine olde seruāt Dauid I wl loue the O lord my strenth the lord of my succour my refuge my sauiour my bu● lar the horne of my saluciō Yea the more boldely because of my newe testamēt Sai● thus O heauēly father thoughe heauē and earth do perish and all creatures tourne to naught yet liuest thou O lordof heauē and earth in me thou liuest whose son I am bi adoption thi spirite geueing witnesse of this thing Yea Christe the strength might and powre of thi right hād liueth no mā is able to driue him frō the place whether thou hast exalted him Of this am I sure and so lōg as he is saulfe I am sure to be saulfe for I am partaker of his nature substāce powre according to the gifte of Iesu my sauiour that dwelleth in me Not carnally eatē but spirituallye receiued by fayeth wherby I knowe that he is my heade and I one of hys members Thus may you learne O my little flocke whan you haue for sakē al creatures to be assured of fauour and optaine the sownde and sure taste of y●… saluacion and euerlasteynge lyfe and 〈…〉 and fele the hope of your calleinge ●…hall neuer suffer you to come to confu●… and so reioyce as my son wilded you of no powre earthlye neither of carnall eatinge of Christ nor 〈◊〉 dynge vpon serpentes but that your names are written in the boke of lyfe in the heauenes Vnto the other sorte which may worthely boaste of their powre if it be true that they saie because they cā make God or cal down God into the chalice for all is one matter in effecte I will an swer as I did of olde by my prophet Esaye I abhor your Sabothes your sacrificies and all your ceremonies Yea what do I care for your masse mūbling whiche banisheth the memorie of my sonne and setteth a newe Idole to prouoke my zelouse indignacion against you What care I for your gletteringe miters seynge you banishe my word What care I for your fasteyuge and prayeinge seinge your handes are of full of bloude your fingers full of ▪ wickidnes What care I for the swarme of your ceremonies y e whole heap of your farthings where vpō your religion stādeth sei●g your lippes tell lies Geue ●are and tremble for the wickednesse of your handes for the Lorde hath spoken it ❧ An answere to the principal pointes that follow after the doctours in the bishop of winchesters boke NOw go to you papistes who had rather er with your father the pope with his doctours his furred hods and forcked caps then to saie trueth with Christes despised membres wyll you follow the broud way that leadeth to perdiciō because the multitude doeth enter into it Nay rather cōtend and labour to enter the narrow and straight waye whiche leadeth vnto lyfe which is the waye of knowledge and truth wherein fewe do walke I knowe your doctours are gloriouse You call them sainctes and I truste they be so accepted of God But Christ and his Apostles though they were not so glorious and well taken in the worlde yet was ther more truth in their wordes and writings Yea sure it is to be fea red ▪ ther is some priuie flatterie and vntrueth closely ▪ cloked in the darke sentence of their longe bokes where the wrytinges are so cōmendable in the worlde and so phausible in generally to all the heape of the papistes the vpholders of Antechrist For after olde custom and auncient ordre the scriptures of God maie not be reade in the scholes til such tyme as the maister of the sentences and the heape of your other doctoures haue stopped Iacobs welles the louelye fountaynes of the heauenly water with the fillthy mud of their gloses ▪ Yea the filthieste of that flo●… let hym lye let him dote let him bable wha● helusteth yet shall he be alowed boeth in l●… ten and in englishe when the worde of God whē the new and olde testament shalbe brē●… with fire Yea the maynteners therof wh●… are the onely holions of God because they maynetayne the holie worde of God shalb●… destroyed and brent together with the boke● of the Gospell that they mayntayne Surely your perswasion maye do muche to the worldely mynded when you compa●… these ii contraries togither The gloriouse doctours the sayntes by the pope canonised and by al worldely powers maynetayned renowmed and worshiped vnto the out castes of the world stil barkynge at the vices which are abominable scrapeing the eares of men wyth the sharp reaseinge trueth and therby deserueinge as the worldelye suppose worthely to be expelled banished or burned But vnto the godlye whose desyre is to be lyke their master Christ in sufferinge with him in this worlde that they may after rayne wyth him in the
your handes For from the easte to the west my name is greate amonges the heathen And euerye where do they bren incense and offer vnto my name euen a pure offeringe For greate is my name amonge the heathen sayeth ▪ the Lorde of hostes and you haue poluted it in your wordes The phariseis to whom this was spoken thought them selues and theyr sacrifices so acceptable in the sight of God that they despised al other people as you do nowe And therfore this text serueth agaynst you boeth That enerie wher in euerie nacion and people as Peter was taught in the Act. the pure offeringe in spirite and trueth shalbe offere●… So that we maye truelie saie that Malachie doeth make agaynste you teacheing that a● al prophecies are general as the Iewes preistes were refused for their couetousnesse so shall you for yours And as he declared that their sacrifices ceremonies where vpō they boasted bragged so much shoulde cease so are yours now at the same point He declared also that God should be honoured in spirite trueth thorowout all nacions euen as we haue an example of C xx M. in Niniue of diuers priuate persons in diuers cōtreyes as Naamā in Siria the wydow of Serephtha Iethro the father inlawe of Moyses Hira of Tirus the quene of the south which though they were not of the outwarde Israell dyd neuerthelesse magnifie the name of the lord offer the ca●ues of their lyps offering a pure offeringe of thākes geueing offering theyr own bodies a liueinge sacrifice holie acceptable vnto God this is the pure offeringe that the prophet Malachie did speake of I will not striue with you about your doctours any more because I intēd to auoide the infinite contēcions whiche I perceyue doe a rise of them Notwithstandinge here is a iust occasiō offered as ther hath ben many times where Gregorie Nazianzeue calleth fasteynge in Christe a bulworke and defence against tētaciō As though christ which could not sinne neaded any such bulworke And yet so far as we know he was tempted when he was fasteynge The same Gregorie calleth fasteyngein vs apurgacion or cleanseynge What should we cōtēde about this mattier Lyke as it pleased God to gyue powre vnto Moyses to fast xl dayes twyse in the mountayne not for the a voydeinge of tentacion but for to set forthe the gloriouse lawe and wyll of the father then to be published And Elias beynge sent to anoynte a Kynge ouer Siria a Kynge and a prophet ouer Israell by whō boeth thefe kingdōes shouldbe cleane tered chaunged did faste fortie dayes from all maner meate for the declareinge of the powre of God in his workes So did it please Christ of his owne powre to faste fortie dayes that the Iewes shoulde haue none occasion to thinke hym inferionre to those ij theyr greateste prophetes in the publisheynge of his gospell and glad tithinges vnto the worlde and his renewynge of all thinges Not to the entent that we should folowe him and therby haue purgaciō of oure synnes For besyde that it is impossible to folowe him without an especiall worke of the spirite either in that he fasted xl dayes or in that he was neuer hongrie this were a plain deniall of the benefite of his passion and the settinge vp of our owne worke which is vnperfect For what great mattier is it to eate meate but once eueri daye and drinke ij or iij many haue so liued in the olde tyme. And what holinesse is it to eate fish onely do not cormor●ntes and such as lyue by the sea syde lyue so lykewise Christ hath cōmaunded vs to folowe him in loue peace mercie and such lyke but in this example as a thinge imposseble we haue no such cōmaundement except we be drawn into wildernes by the spirit as Christ was or by any other worke of God we be desti●●te of fode the cōfort of creatures then Lo the example of Christe may strength vs and teach that not by bread onely do we liue but by euery worde that proceadeth out of the mouth of God Woulde God that true fasteynge and prayer were taught and vsed and popeish abuse abolished for trueth and falshode can not be coupled to gether But you bishopes must bear the blame for all these thynges if it be not amended shortly For you haue taken the charge of the flocke ❧ An answere to diuers questions IN the ende of your boke we loked for a substanciall rehersall of your stronge argumentes where with you haue cōfirmed this mattier that you haue taken in hande But we find a rable of confused questians nothinge partaynige to this purpose which we must touch or els you wyl saye that you are not answered And therfore do you craftely heape these to gether in the ende of your boke that in the wrappeynge vp of so many matters you may haue credite of the cōmune people as a professed patrone of they● vsed errours and cause vs to be despysed as the contemners of all these thinges that you do styfly mayntayne This is deuillishe sophistrie subtiltie of Sathan mindeinge nothinge but contencion debate strife when one stynge is stinged to shote forth an other Yea it is rather the mōstrouse poysōful nature of Hidra that Hercules slewe whē thou haddest striken of one heade to haue vij or moe ariseinge in his place When you cā not ouercome by argumentes in the matter we haue in hande then stricke you vp newe alarum to a newe fielde of contencion Thus shal we neuer haue don if we now a freshe take in hand to answer you Fyrste you demaunde which is the true fast which is the true prayer Then what place the preachinge of Godes word owght to haue in the church what place the doctri●e of men may haue in the worshype of God Agayn whether the sacrament ought to be ministered in boeth the kyndes or but in breade onelye For you wyll euer be inuentynge newe mat tiers to occupie mens mindes in contencion and to affraye simples soules from the scriptures And because you wyll maintayne all poperie thought you perceiue it is nothing you can fynde faute with nothynge that the popehath inuented But when you are demaunded of any of his trifles a lone you saie they are nothing And yet you wil haue thys large heape of nothinges to be the masse as you call it and whole heape of our religion and euerie one seuerallie to be necessarie to your estate Agayne by your boke we haue iust occasiō ministred were it not that we would gladly auoide cōtēcionto examin this mōstrouse geare to their worthinesse and to speake of al your nothinges dombe signes lieing shadowes that your father you haue heretofore inuēted But thā should we neuer haue done for euerie one of these argumētes would aske an whole boke lyke as the mattier of the sacrament hath done you haue so blinded the trueth in thē all
dignitie the maintenaunce of Idolatrie Popetrie hath caused the bishop to wryte his boke and to rayle agaynste the trueth And shall not the crowne of glorie whiche can neuer decaye the glory of the only euerlasting God steare faythful men to make answere for the trueth agaynst falsehode specially seinge that we haue thys playne testimonie spoken by the mouth of our sauiour He that confesseth me before men him wyl I confesse before my father that is in heauen and hym that denieth me before men shall I denie also before my father and his holy angels If I be blamed if I be imprisoned yea if I be burned for Christes cause the trueth yet am I happie by the opē testimonie of Christ in Math. My name shall be restored in the heauens in the boke of lyfe to be a fayethfull witnesse I shalbe set at libertie for euer with Christ the sonne of God my bodie brent into ashes where it hath put of mortalitie shal be restored vnto me muche better immortall and incorruptible If I lose wyfe and childe father and mother I shal receiue for them an hundreth folde And for aduauntage aboue all for f●ll recōpence lyfe euerlasting Who wyl not be ammate and encouraged by such large promises ❧ God saue Kynge Edward from all errours God defende his tender age from all ●he subtile malice of al Hypocrites and tray●…urs The lyuyng God establishe his herte in the waye of the trueth for euer and euer So be it ❧ FINIS ❧ The Table A A Rehersall of the benefactours and founders of the Masse Fol. liij An Image can not be a womans husbande Fol. cxlij A declaration of the true churche Fol. lxv Augustine to Dardanius Fol. cxv A double errour Fol. cxxi At his departynge Christe commaunded his remembraunce to be celebrated Fol. cxlix A vaine mūbling called the masse Fol. cxlix A double causion Fol. cl Abrahā was iust before circumcisiō Fol. clxii An answere to the principal pointes after the Doctours Fol. clxvi A broade shauen crowne Fol. clxxi All men muste knowe etc. Fol. lxxviii Accidentes muste haue c Fol. lxxiiii A right bishop c. Fol. lxxv Al the workes of God c Fol. lxxix An apt similitude Fol. clxxxxvii Lit. Dd A shauen crowne c. Fol. clxxxxvii Dd A longe gowne Fol. clxxxxviii Dd An Englishe bishop Fol. ccvi Anne Askue Fol. cciiii B Beleue not euerie spirite Fol. xii Be no more Caparnaites Fol. xxxiiii By what fruite you may know thē Fol. xli Bonifacius putteth Christ out etc. fol. lxxii Bishops defende wyckednesse fol. cxxxix Baptisme is not estemed as it c fol. lxxxv Because all thinges are possible c. fol. clviii By the workes you shall etc. fol. lxxvii Beware of my Lordes lyes fol. clxxxxii Barnes fol. cciiii Bylnaye fol. cciii C Christ dyd not cōsecrate the bread fol. xxxvii Christ can not be eaten without fruite fol. xl Christes comyng is at hande fol. cxxxviii Christes fleshe gyueth lyfe fol. cxiv Christ is the verie vine fol. lxxxxvi Christ shal co●… againe visible fol. lxxxxvii Christ onely must be our bishop fol. clix Christ neuer preached trāsubstā c fol. clxiii Cato fol. ccvi D Doctour Buttes fol. cxli Damascen putteth water into c fol. cv Damascē wil haue water made bloud fol. cv Damascen fol. cxi Dogges wyl not eate dogs fleshe fol. cxx Doctrine preached at Pauls crosse fo clxxxxi E Ecolampadius repented fol. ciii Exemples of mennes c fol. clxxxxii Cc. F Fewe are founde faythfull fol. lxvi Fyre can not preuayle fol. lxix Fayth receyueth Christes body fol. cxliii Feare not the breade God fol. clvii Fryth is not confuted fol. clxvii From the Elders c fol. clxxiiii Fishe prouoketh lust fol. clxxxx Fyl the bealy fol. ccvii G Go no farther thē your cōmission fol. xxxvi God hath neuer forsakē his churche fol. lxv God flryketh and healeth agayne fol. lxvii Gyue eare for God sayeth it fol. cxlv God regardeth them that worshippe hym in spirite fol. cl God is nere to euerie one of vs. fol. cli God is the father of spirites fol. cli God hath his ministers of venge c. fol. clii God giueth warning before ven c. fol. cliiij God is far in dette to his makers sol clvi God is not chaungable fol. clvi God accepteth iustice by fayth fol. clxi● God regardeth not the osferyng of signes or sacramentes fol. clxiii God ment vs good fol. clxiiii God regardeth none of our inuē c. fol. clxv God is pacient Fol. clxvii Gregorie Nazienzene Fol. clxxxvi Gods word must giue place c. Fol. clxxxix Gyue no eare c Fol. clxxxxiii Lit. Cc. H Howe full of iniquitie this time is Fol. xi Howe God giueth wisedome to al that aske it in fayth fol. xviii Howe the Papistes reason a posse c fol. xx He that hath eyes to see let him see fol. xxxv He that wyl fynde Christ fol. clx Hidra the monster fol. clxxxviii Howe fasting dryueth out c fol. clxxxx He that knoweth not God fol. lxxvii He that is once c fol. lxxix Holy water fol. cci Hunne fol. cciiii Husse fol. cciii I I woulde wishe my Lorde this c fol. xxxiii In two wordes lieth the whole etc. fol. xxxix If we wyl entre into Christes etc. fol. cxlv Iudas dyd not eate the body etc. fol. lxxxxiiii It is possible for God to chaunge etc. fol. cv Idols shal be brent fol. cxlvii Idols be thanked for Gods giftes fol. cliiii In what respect the fleshe of Christ was heauenly breade fol. clxi Iohn Lasselles fol. cciiii It is more easie to liue wel then Ill fol. clxix If thynges be auncient etc. fol. clxix If the prelates had had ▪ etc. fol. clxxiiii It is for the papistes profite fol. clxxvi K Knowledge of the senses fol. xli L Learne to eate the fleshe bloud c. fol. xxxi●i Learne to resist sophistrie fol xxxviii Learne to knowe the membres of Christes churche fol. lxviii Learne witte at the mouse fol. lxxxvi Let them that doubt etc. fol. clxvii Learne to auoyed offence etc. fol. clxxxiii Learne at the bishops to fast fol. clxxxiii Learne wherin to folowe Christ fol. clxxxvii Learne to knowe etc. fol. clxxxxix Dd M Marke what meate Christ c fol. xxxiii Marke howe God prouided etc. fol. lxvi Marke who hath ben the. c fol. lxx Maxentius the tirant fol. lxxi My Lorde woulde haue no trā c. fol. cxliii Marke the fruites of my lordes c. fol. lxxxii Marke my Lordes intent fol. lxxx●i Marke my Lordes sophistrie fol. lxxxvi My Lordes owne swerde stryketh of his heade fol. lxxxviii My Lordes wordes ende in ly fol. lxxxxv My Lorde hath loste his witnesse fol. c●i My lordes similitudes serue not for his purpose fol. cvi Marke the constancie of the Doct. fol. cvii Marke thexa●…ation of these c. fol. cxxvi My lorde might haue ben asha c. fo cxxxvii Man hath made h●m Goddes fol. cxlviii More