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A37113 Du Vergers humble reflections vpon some passages of the Right Honorable the Lady Marchionesse of Nevvcastles Olio, or, An appeale from her mes-informed, to her ovvne better informed iudgement Du Verger, S. 1657 (1657) Wing D2921; ESTC R21646 66,712 176

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the Ministers of God and their stupendious and magnificent profusion in building adorning and inriching Churches They count vpon about 30. kinges and Queenes within the space of two hundred yeares who casting of the the pompe and splendourof an earthly kingdome to take the kingdome of heauen by a holy violence betooke themselues to a religious solitude to witt 15. kinges or more became Monkes or pilgrimes to Rome 14. Queenes Nunns and twelue kinges suffered Martyrdome by infidells and ten more canonised for their wonderfull sanctitie So that one saith It was a wonder in those dayes to see a kinge who was not a Sainte and another in his Cronicle affirmes that he found more kinges Saintes in Ingland then in any other Prouince of the whole world how populous soeuer I passe ouer the greate multitude of the Royall issue to speake of kinges alone Yet what he passes ouer who was tyed to the lawes of an Epistle others make it their busines to prosecute at large and to putt downe their names number their professions liues and sanctitie numbering vp 25. besides 14. or 15. more of the bloud royall who of sonns and daughters of Kinges became humble Monks and Nunns the most of them famous Saintes Adding withall to his number of Religious Queenes seauen more to make vp 21. Might not then Baronius affirme of the Church of England in those dayes that it was a Paradice of our Lord abounding with the lilies of holy Virgines and the violets of the multitudes of holy Monkes Thus to complie with the breuitie you prescribe me haue I rather heaped together then exposed the glories of our Nation sprung from our English Monasteries those blessed and and fruictfull nurseries of Gods Church I haue reduced I saie great things were they sett out to shew into a little Mappe which as it brings the aduantage of making many vast obiects obuious to be discouered with one cast of an eye so brings it this disaduantage that they appeare not in their true light luster and bulke but incomparablie lesse then nature lesse then what indeed they are whereas particulars had they not been too long for this designe were fitter to strike the senses more liuely and to feede the eyes and hart with farr more delight and satis faction For the rest my knowing friend if the little I haue said fall short of your expectation I assure you you may well pardon me since I euen starued my selfe to please you out of a friendly feare I conceiued that the too much I might haue said should haue passed your desire and oppressed you with plentie Otherwise what glorious particulars might not haue been easily produced what prodigies might not haue been said of that Land of God that first Land of Saintes in England that beginning and fountaine of all Religion in England that tombe of Saintes that mother of Saintes whereby England is rightly stiled the parent or Mother Monasterie of all Europe As the Theater of greater Britaine stiles●● Thus farre goes my friend Madame in the behalfe of the singular fruits of Monasticall life where your honour will obserue his greatest paine was rather to crude vp a most plentifull haruest into a little space then to expose it to a full and satisfactorie view And yet happily taken euen at that disaduantage it appeares more then anie equall proportion of all the Christian world besides is able to paralelle And now Madame laying by as it were the aduantages which Monasticall life iustly drawes from Antiquitie Authoritie of fathers and the ripe fruites it brings forth le ts trye whether reason alone may not proue preualent enough to make it appeare superlatiuely laudable and free it from the preiudices it is made lye vnder THE V. REFLECTION The excellencie of Monasticall life made good by Reason MADAME If in what state of lif soeuer we liue this transitori life is only lent vs by following the waie of truth to attaine to essentiall and per manent life or life euerlasting by follow ing the waies of truth which is the end c mans creation and euerie thing is perfected by attayning to its last end which none can attaine to but by the guidance of Truth and walking in the waies which it chiefly points out Certainely it seemes consequent enough to me to giue preheminence of excellencie to that course of life be it which it will which of its owne nature stickes closest to the waies which Truth markes out or which is the same thing that makes best vse of life to arriue at the end for which it was giuen Now whereas all the Rules that Truth euer deliuered euen all the lawe and the Prophets are by that truth reduced to one according to that of the Apostle the fullnesse of the law is loue it followes euidently that that kind of life is most excellent which most conduceth to loue and putts loue and charitie into a most absolute and soueraigne raigne since that alone comprises all the Rules or waies which Truth euer taught And indeed Charities blessed and sweete raigne would be alwaies peaceable setled and soueraigne did not cupiditie her corriuall to mans hart disturbe her peace and take off from her soueraigntie That life then which of its owne nature and by her holy practises most curbes and takes off from cupiditie adds most to Charitie and consequently is the best and most excellent kind of life as being most happily imployed by aduancing the raigne of Charitie to arriue at the end for which life was lent But whereas it is not by one single Cupiditie that Charities raigne is laid at but by innumerable multitudes which make their assaults vnder three colours concupiscence of the flesh concupiscence of the eyes and pride of life that kind of life must needes be most excellent which makes it its whole businesse to studie and endeauour the totall ruine of Cupiditie which Were it once entirely subdued Charitie would soe soueraignly raigne in mans hart that he would be restored to a neere resemblance of that happie state wherein man was created Now what life is it if not monasticall life which of its owne nature most absolutely followes the waies deliuered by truth wholy to adheare to God which is done by Charitie but Monasticall life What life doth most remoue the impediments by which the groth and raigne of Charitie is hindred and disturbed but Monasticall life what life doth so totaly sacrifice itselfe vp to God as Monasticall life Le ts examine the truth of each particular What were the waies which Truth marked out by his owne example but abiection humiliation pouertie chastitie and obedience To which also he continually exhorted by his word saying He that hateth not his Father and Mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters yea and his owne life besides he cannot be my disciple c. Againe he that doth not renounce all that he possesses cannot be my Disciple And what life doth so formallie and absolutely
all honest men will take notice that you cannot because you cannot you are calūniatours In what part of the world was this infamous trading driuen In what market was this vile marchandise exposed to sale who were the sellers and who the chapmen and vpon what price did they agree and for what quantitie of this corrupted stuffe dealt they Were the buyers and sellers and market place and all inuisible then happly you may say they lay inuisibly skulking in the bosome of our Church as yours was said sometymes to haue done and so were inuisible indeede but yet were as well as your Church truly was when none could find it by looking behind Luther Credat Iudeus Apella But for my part beleeue me though we Catholikes passe for the most credulous yet haue not I weaknes of credulitie enough to fall into such a fancie as to beleeue that you though you haue an impotent power of seeing what none els can see that yet you I say haue eyes to see what is inuisible that is to see what cannot be seene that is to see what is not If you haue any eyes you will see the truth of what I say if you haue any shame left you le hold your peace THE IV. CALVMNIE As for whores they permitt them to liue loosely without punishment and allot them streetes and houses to increase sinne THE XV REFLECTION HERE Madame comes in a medlie of mixt marchandise paucheto de l'vn paucetto de lautro some sound some corrupt so vnhappily iumbled togeither that there needed noe more to spoyle the whole and to make the assertion a calumnie As for whores they permitt or tolerate them to liue loosely thus farre as for me it should haue past for granted because I haue often heard it reported howeuer at the first blush it seemes to haue noe good face But when they add without punishment I smell a ratt and crye corruption They allot them streetes or a streete at least to increase sinne This againe I am forced to crye against as the naughtie leauen which spoyles the whole lumpe or batch Here Madame they may seeme to leaue the body and ayme at the head knowing well that their malice will be deriued vpon them both They strike at my father hoping to wound both father and mother and children with the same blow We haue heard of a dume child restored to speech vpon an apprehended danger toward his father And should I be struck dumme contrarily vpon this assacinate where both fathers Mothers and myne owne destruction are equally aymed at I confesse a womans words especially so inconsiderable as I am are but a poore defence yet where I was not able to speake a perfect defence in a matter of fact which I knew not perfectly I found I was able enough to crye for ayde The truth is I had recourse to a friend verie intelligent and honest beyond all exception who had diuers tymes bene an eye and eare witnesse of that fact c. and he had the goodnes presently to take his pen and putt downe what I found full satisfaction and I hope such will your honour and all louers of truth find it And certainly it will afford light enough to lead you out of that mist wherin many haue stumbled at a molehill and strayed and discouer how ill you haue bene dealt withall herein Please then Madame to heare my noble friend who hauing bene three seuerall tymes for a good space togeither at Rome deliuers the fact as followeth THE I. PARAGRAPHE MISTRESSE I cannot but smyle all alone in my countrie chamber at this sodden surprise where while I inioye the delightes of a high peace you call me to warrs in the defence of our common father where an equall dutie oblidgesme to an equall readinesse You seeme to be in some litle disorder But feare not woman it is but a false Alarme there will be noe hurt done Rome stands at a great distance farre enough beyond their Canon shott what need we to feare their squibbes and slinges then It s a strong towne and well guarded The Pope is a good man and frequent reports giue him to be a Saint be consident his holinesse and innocēcie of life will be found proofe against their malice the reportes of the whores if they be rightly reported will be able to fasten noe staynes vpon him or vpon the chaire which he doth illustrate But le ts laugh a while in our sleeue togeither before we begin What Is our aduersaries furie run out to so low an ebbe that it can beare nothinge of waight or bulke Haue they spent all their shott vpon our impregnable Fortresses and now fall they to smale play rather then sitt out by fireing on our out workes with flashes of powder onely which giues crakes but hurtes not serues to terrifie children but makes men laugh to obserue that their pride and splenne is great indeede but their hornes short Et vana sine viribus ira So that hauing in vane spent their powder and shot they fall to childs play They lay downe their swords and muskets pikes and fall a throwing the durt of other mens vices vpon vs that at least they may besmeere their clothes whose bodyes they are not able to wound Well let them vanely went the rest of their coller while we deliuer the truth of the fact to such noble soules as would hold it a cryme to detayne Truth prisoner in mistakes And so lets to the great busines vpon which you would say the fortunes of Greece depends THE II. PARAGRAPHE MISTRESSE The Protestants or who els they may be who will needs stumble at something which their imagination giues them lyes in the way are mistaken in the fact for it is most certaine that the Pope takes neither fine nor taxe nor rent nor yearely tribute to permitt or tolerate sinne much lesse to authorise or increase it for a somme which is falsely reported So that while they affirme and yet proue nothinge one short Nego is all that is due to them for an answere He giues no leaue I confidently auerre it nor approbation nor countenance to that filthie commerce of the whores But contrarily discountenanceth dehorts punisheth them and hinders their increase with great care watchfullnesse and cost All that know Rome know this to be most true if they be owners of any braynes to haue made obseruation and honour to speake the truth I appeale to their ingenuitie whether those naughtie women be not discountenanced curbd and kept short by what care ciuile gouerment can suggest For. First they are prohibited to come to any publike meetings or assemblies where women of honour meete as at the Course and other places 2. They are prohibited to goe in coaches or stirre out of dores on the night 3. They are prohibited to liue in common one with another least they might encourage one another in their wickednesse and are forced to liue separate and alone left