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A06476 The Christian against the Iesuite Wherein the secrete or namelesse writer of a pernitious booke, intituled A discouerie of I. Nicols minister &c. priuily printed, couertly cast abrod, and secretely solde, is not only iustly reprooued: but also a booke, dedicated to the Queenes Maiestie, called A persuasion from papistrie, therein derided and falsified, is defended by Thomas Lupton the authour thereof. Reade with aduisement, and iudge vprightly: and be affectioned only to truth. Seene and allowed. Lupton, Thomas. 1582 (1582) STC 16946; ESTC S107762 169,674 220

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the word of God as according to S. Chrysostome who saith Hierusalem hic c. Here by Hierusalem euermore vnderstand the Church which is called the Citie of peace the foundations wherof are laid vpon the mountaines of the scriptures 〈◊〉 in Math. Homil. 46 Your Doctors and you amongest you haue made mowlehiles of them making your Romish Church the mountaines and as it is manifest by the wordes of the Popes penne man Siluester Prierias in that they haue extolde your Churche to bee aboue and more then Gods worde calling those mountaines of the Scriptures also a nose of wax inken diuinitie a liuelesse letter and a dumbe 〈◊〉 with such like as shal appeare more 〈◊〉 hereafter And therefore though you cannot proue that wee haue made mountaines of mowlehilles yet I haue proued y e you haue made 〈◊〉 of moūtaines The 〈◊〉 part YOu say that wee cannot shewe you any one Prieste in these latter yeeres peruerted by vs. By this your most spightfull and venemous word you meane that our religion the Gospell of Christe is wicked els you woulde not haue saide peruerted Though you haue derided mee for vsing a P. Whereof I will God willing speake in place conuenient yet it lamenteth mee that you misuse a P. here in this place as you doe At the last day when all knees shall 〈◊〉 before the Maiestie of Iesus Christe you shall then 〈◊〉 whether this 〈◊〉 religion according to the gospell is such that they that are wonne vnto it are peruerted or not I feare you did speake against your conscience whē you wrote that worde If they be peruerted that are wonne from 〈◊〉 to truth from darkenesse to light from mens dreames to the worde of God from 〈◊〉 to Christ and from hell to heauen then belike they are 〈◊〉 that are allured from truth to errour from light to darkenesse from Gods worde to the Diuels dreames from Christe to 〈◊〉 and from heauen to hell Well you that deale thus preposterously with Christe at the day of iudgement he will deale vprightly with you But I beseech God if it be his will that you may be conuerted to be the childe of saluation or els that you haue no power to peruert soules to damnation You make a great bragge because not one priest of late yeres is allured to our 〈◊〉 as though your religion were true because priests sticke so hard to it and our religiō false because no priestes doe receiue it Truth dependeth not vpon priestes but good priestes depend vpon truth Truth will be truth and will remaine stil though there were neuer a priest in all the worlde the religion of Christes Gospell is wel able to stand without any of your priests Though your masses cannot be said without popish priestes yet our holy Communion instituted by Christe may bee celebrated well 〈◊〉 without them Therfore you are wide to 〈◊〉 that 〈◊〉 religion cannot be without your priestes or y t your religion is true because you haue such priestes ours false because we haue none You persuade your selues 〈◊〉 like y t you 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 sodenly a great conquest because 〈◊〉 cannot 〈◊〉 you any 〈◊〉 priest 〈◊〉 which to liketh you 〈◊〉 cal peruerted but I 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of you how many priests of Moses 〈◊〉 did Christe conuert when he was heere on earth If you cānot shew me one wil you therfore say y t high priestes and 〈◊〉 religion was true and Christes religion false and that because he conuerted no 〈◊〉 I hope you wil not And now if Christ the sonne of God which was the best conuerter of all other did not conuert one prieste of Moses law y t law of God vnto him then it were no great mexuell though our preachers that are but the seruantes of Christe cannot conuert one of your priestes of the popes law which are enemies to the law of God And though you so stoutly affirme that there hath not one priest byn 〈◊〉 to vs in these latter yeeres you may bee 〈◊〉 for all you are a Iesuite for if there were seuen thousand Iewes that went not from God to Ball though 〈◊〉 the 〈◊〉 of God knew not of it then may there not one priest be conuerted from the pope to God though a Iesuite a seruant of y t pope do not know it yes wel enough Though you if you be at Rome may vnderstande of all the reuolters that come from vs to you thither yet one or two papisticall 〈◊〉 may turne to vs heere in England you neuer the wiset Wherfore write not so precisely upon an 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as that cocke is not to bee counted of that croweth vncertenlie so you are not to bee commended to affirme things 〈◊〉 The fifteenth parte YOu say you haue nothing to compell our Ministers vnto your part which haue offered themselues to you in this time except euidence of truth nor anything to allure them except 〈◊〉 and honestie Bragge is a good dogge if truth may be got with talking I doubt not but you will haue it but as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the only truth so they that will haue it must learn it of Christ. But because you are 〈◊〉 by the holy 〈◊〉 of God to maintaine the Popes 〈◊〉 y t are false which is olene cōtrarie to y e gospel of god w t is truth therefore you haue not y e truth The Iewes bragd y t they had Abrahā to their father but Christ told them flatly that they had the Diuell to their father who was a lyar frō the beginning and therefore they were lyars because they were his children Now if the 〈◊〉 which were the elect people of God were lyars and were the children of the diuell for all they said they had Abrahā to their father then you that are not the peculiar people of God may misse of y e truth and bee very lyars though you say your selues you haue the euidence of truth The Scriptures are chiefe tryars of y e truth Christ saith Ego sum via veritas vita I am the way the truth and the life and hee also saith Search the scripture for they beare witnesse of mee Now 〈◊〉 it is 〈◊〉 by Christes owne wordes that the scriptures be are witnesse of Christ which is truth Now seeing you cleaue to the Popes lawe which is contrary to Gods Iawes you forsake the scriptures and therefore you haue not the truth because you search not for it in the Scriptures Theophilactus saith That Gods word is the candle where by the theefe is spied Nowe as theeues will put out the candle and goe in the darke for feare they shoulde bee be wrayed by the candle light so doth your holy father the Pope and his Chapleines hide or put out Gods worde least it bewray them Therefore by your hiding and suppressing Gods word you shew your selues spirituall theeues Wherfore if theeues bee true then you haue the truth So that it appeareth yea it is
vs whether you meane spirituall birth or temporall bearing vs on her backe I am sure you say most vntruly She may beare or bring foorth Iesuites if she will but shee can neuer beare or bring forth true Christiās if shee woulde as you that are Iesuites take her for your mother reioyce y t she hath borne you so we y t are Christians take god for our father are most glad y t we are borna new in christ through hearing of y e gospel working of y e holy ghost And 〈◊〉 for other bearing I am sure y e pope which is y e head of 〈◊〉 church hath beene so long vsed to bee borne on mens shoulders that hee will disdeyne to beare or carry any either on his shoulders or other wise Therefore in this that your holy mother hath borne vs take it which way you will is a most manifest vntruth vnlesse you haue some other mysticall meaning in it that is to busie for my braine And with our bringing vp I thinke your holy mother hath not been muche troubled for thankes bee to God our soyle hath and doth dayly yeelde vs sufficient sustinance and 〈◊〉 of all things yea that hath been such a long time since your holy mother hath curst vs for so long as shee blest vs wee neuer fared so well that the like hath not been seene God graunt wee be thankefull for it vnlesse you meane our bringing vp in Queene 〈◊〉 time by your holy mother which if all things bee well marked may bee called rather a beating downe then a bringing vp no doubt your holy mother tooke then great paynes with bringing of vs vp for they that obeyed her they helpt to feed her and bring her vp and such as stucke to Gods worde and refused her she did beate downe and burned them to ashes was not this a louing mother that thus brought vp her children If you meane of the bringing vp of master Nicols by your holy mother at Rome in feeding and releeuing him I must needes say that though it was to feeding of his body it was to the killing of his soule For your holy mother feedeth her children as cattell is fed for though the oxe is glad when he is put into a good pasture to bee fed yet the simple oxe is fedde to bee killed So your holy mother feedeth her children to the death of their soules and nourisheth them louingly to their endlesse destruction And as the oxe is ignorant that hee is fedde for his death so you little knowe the destruccion will follow this your bodily feeding Therfore if you woulde consider the ende of your holy mothers feeding of you woulde rather fast and fare hard in England vnder your mercifull prince then to haue all the pleasures you can wish vnder your cruell wicked mother of Rome Therefore 〈◊〉 from that feeding that will make you fast al wayes and shunne from these delicates that will driue you to the Diuell The tenth part YOU write in your sayde booke to the greate slaunder and reproche of our ministers and Preachers that if the notable infamous acts of ministers and Preachers onlie in this one Realme of Englande for the space of one dozen yeeres past were gathered into some one booke for the view of the worlde they woulde be more in quantitie and in qualitie more heinous than all that they haue gathered by great labour and much fashood in their seuerall bookes out of the liues of the woorst Catholikes for these thousande yeeres past ouer all the whole worlde c. If you had lamented the wicked liuinges and lasciuious liues of the ministers and Preachers of Gods worde as you reioyce therein you woulde not haue written so manifest a falshood as you haue done But as the Diuell is the father of lies so can not his children be tellers of trueth And as you haue detracted my booke without anie triall so you haue 〈◊〉 our ministers and preachers without any proofe or any argument but this your owne bare wordes thinking belike that you Iesuices shoulde be of such credite that your bare sayinges shoulde bee taken forsooth and your counterfaite coyne should goe for currant Whatsoeuer before I haue written of you I haue done the same with authorities and argumentes but this that you haue written against our ministers and preachers wee haue but only your penne for a proofe and your worde for a warrant But as I must needes confesse that many of our ministers and preachers haue not liued so well as they shoulde nor so godlye as I wishe yet it is moste manifest for certaine hundreth yeeres past that many of your holie Popes Cardinalles Prelates and Papisticall priestes haue liued so horribly incontinently and diuelishly that it will loath any true Christian to heare I doubt not but if you could haue mamfested your malicious minde against our preachers and ministers you would not wish such slight woordes so soone haue giuen it ouer but for that it would haue beene to busie for you openly to proue such a number of notable infamous actes against our preachers and ministers as you pretēd priuily with your penne You referre your readers in the mangent of your booke to the recordes of our temporal courtes Indeed y e Pope his prelates are wilier thē our spiritualty for none of their doings or deeds may be called to account but only before thēselues No lay mā may accuse you no tēporal iudge may cōdēne you nor no king may controll you wherby your diuelish practises may be kept priuie and y t the cōmon people shold not know your detestable dealings And because you would seeme to be saints though your liuings were lothsome you prouided a remedy for a mischiefe but if y e practises of your Popes the cōdicions of your cardinals y e blemishes of your Bishops the Acts of your Abbots the maners of your monks y e facts of your fryers y e chastity of your chānōs the pernitious doings of your priests for a thousād yeres past might haue come in questiō before tēporal magistrates ciuil iudges y t y e lay mē might haue cōplaind so a gainst thē according to their causes as they may do against our preachers ministers with vs thē I am most sure certain y t al the abhominable actes detestable deeds execrable enormities and filthy facts of them could not be conteined in a great number of greater bookes then the greatest bybles we haue For seeing there is so manie bookes filled with their filthy factes and detestable doings for all their restrained lawes and priuie keeping of the same what a number of volumes would haue 〈◊〉 farced therewith if euery one that would might haue written according to their desertes complayned to the temporall powers according as they had occasion Also it cannot bee that our ministers and preachers of Gods worde which is the director of trueth should generally liue so infamously as
her legge to be cut off And thus in breefe this same godlie Pope Hildebrand was charged by the counsel in Brixia to be an aduoutrer a church robber a periured man a mankiller a Sorcerer and a denier of the faith When he was but a Cardinall hee smote Pope Alexander with his fyste laide him in prison he poysoned sixe Popes his predecessours to make away for himselfe to be Pope he was a coniurer and a rayser of diuels 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his 〈◊〉 he threwe the sacrament his Christ of 〈◊〉 into the 〈◊〉 If you consider this pope Hildebrand with the other before mentioned you will say that our Prcachers and ministers ought not to holde the title of infamous actes from them For they of all other ought chiefly to haue it Pope 〈◊〉 the eight did say that hee woulde within short time make either all the French men Martyrs or els forsakers of their faith for if they yeelded to his religiō and Romish Church then they shoulde forsake their faith And if they denyed his religion and stucke to the Gospell then hee woulde burne them or otherwise kill them and so hee woulde make Martyrs of them Also he said that he sought not the health of their soules but the destruction of them Though some of our Ministers and Preachers liue not like Saints yet this Pope in his sayings was something like Satan I thinke you cannot say vnlesse you say falsly that any of our ministers or preachers haue spokē such infamous wordes as this Pope Boniface did and that they woulde eyther kill men or make them flee from their faith Nagareta a knight testified before the French king called Phillip that Pope Boniface the eight was a theese 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his mouth full of our sings his feete 〈◊〉 to 〈◊〉 blood a tearer in peeces of the Church which hee ought 〈◊〉 cherish a wicked waster of the goods of the poore a 〈◊〉 of wicked men because they gaue him rewardes a persecutor of the righteous a bringer in of newe 〈◊〉 of destruction that had not beene hearde of a 〈◊〉 of the trueth thinking himself to be equal to Christ a greedie desirer of gold getting it by deuise of all people no regarder nor worshipper of God not 〈◊〉 any way to get money a maker of merchandize of all men a louer of no man a nourisher of 〈◊〉 a persecutor and hater of peace of his subiectes rooted in all vnspeakeable sinnes a striuer against the doctrine of God and the abhomination of the people spoken of by Daniell the Lordes Prophete Surely how infamous soeuer our ministers and preachers actes be it appeareth that the deedes of the said Pope was not very good nor his conditions very godly Pope Sextus graunted to Petrus Ruerius a Cardinal and all his whole family free leaue to vse the sinne of Sodomitrie a thing most shamefull to be vttered but most abhominable to bee licensed or permitted This was no infamous act because a pope did licence it and because a Cardinal did commit it though God doth so detest it that therfore he consumed Sodom and Gomora and whole Countries with fire brimstone frō heauen A great sort moe of suche precious popes I coulde shew y t haue very great wrong if your title of notable infamous actes should bee taken frō them which you of your liberalitie haue giuen to our ministers as vndeserued nay and that is more they are farre vnable to deserue it wherfore I 〈◊〉 you to bestow it on your popes for they of all other haue most right vnto it But I assure you if our Preachers and ministers did deserue y ● same the one were inore meete to be popes of Rome then Preachers of England and the other morefit to be mūblers of the masse then ministers of Gods word Truly your mother the holy Church of Rome that hath had such vnholy fathers can not wel be counted to be a very holy mother that hath had such diuelish heads cānot well haue a very godly body And now because your said mother must needes be vngodly you her children cannot be very vertuous And also your Cardinals haue not liued very holily nor chastly for at y ● councell of Trident two of your holy Cardinals were takē flaine 〈◊〉 which may be famous godly with you Iesuices but it is most infamous wicked w t vs that are Christians You cannot charge either any of our Bishops Doctors or preachers of Gods worde with any such infamous acte at any of our Councels or Parliamēts for if you could I doubt not but you woulde And by the report of S. Barnard the Bishops did not liue very vertuosly in his time who sayeth Quaein occulto 〈◊〉 ab 〈◊〉 turpe est vel 〈◊〉 It is shame to vtter the things that are done of Bishops in their secrets Barnardad Clerum in Synodo Rhemen And as your Popes Cardinals and Bishops doe best of all other deserue 〈◊〉 your title of infamous actes so your Priestes Clear gie haue not liued so holy and chastly as you woulde seeme and therefore our Preachers and Ministers may rightly returne the same vnto thē for that they are better acquainted with infamous acts vnchast life thē they And because you shall not say that I speake at randon without proofe against your papistical vnmarried priests as you do against our married preachers ministers I wil shew you a litle taste y ● better to cōiecture the rest It is noted vpon the decrees thus Communiter dicitur quod pro simplici fornicatione quis deponinon debet cum pauci sine illo vitio 〈◊〉 It is commōly said that a mā may not be deposed or depriued for simple fornication forasmuch as few priestes bee founde without that fault Here the popes decree doth hold allow that priestes may vse simple fornicatiō w tout any harme or punishment but I neuer read that either Christe or his Apostles allowed somuch besides y t it affirmes that 〈◊〉 all Priestes were fornicators for it saith few liued without that fault And seeing y ● popes law hath decreed it it must needes be true for a popes law cānot be false and thus though you w tout warrāt but only your own word do charge our preachers ministers with notable infamous acts here haue I brought you one of your popes owne decrees in whose 〈◊〉 or brest is al knowledge law yea a heauēly iudgement whō you are boūd to beleeue vpō paine of heresie that saith plainly few priestes liue chast but are fornicators Therfore if the popes decree be true as I am most sure in this case it is truer thē your tale your priestes must be fain to take this title of infamous acts frō our preachers And because it may y ● better appeare y t the popes haue rather excused their priests in liuing vnchastly thē to restraine thē frō it I will put you in remēbrāce of a note or
will here recite myne owne woordes that the indifferent reader may see whether you haue vsed mee indifferently and whether you ment well to father suche falsehood on mee or not In deede I haue prooued by argumentes that you that are obstinate disobedient determined papists are most earnest Enemies to Englande of all other and deserue death more then theeues murtherers pyrates coyners and suche like but that I haue saide that all papistes are woorse and deserue more death then drunkardes theeues murtherers and pyrates I vtterly denie And in that case of death I named not drunkardes for that wee haue no Lawe to put them to death And nowe here followeth mine owne wordes which I doubt not but that the reader will consider indifferently for vs both Our Theeues are English enemies whereof many steale for necessitie Vnthriftes are Englishe enemies both to themselues and to other for that they spende wastfully on them selues that other haue neede of Drunkardes are Englishe enemies but are most of all their owne foes vnlesse they kill or hurt any in their drunkennesse besides many suche like Enemies yet all these with manye other are not suche Englishe Enemies vnlesse they bee papistes with all but that they loue their prince obey and followe her godly proceedings wish her a prosperous raigne and woulde fight if neede were for her grace and helpe to defende this their Countrey from her foes which may bee counted as friendes in comparison of you that are suche papisticall Enemies For though there are many enemies as theeues murtherers pyrates coyners clyppers of money coūterfeaters of the Queens seale with diuers other yet you that are obstinate disobedient and determined papistes are the most earnest enemies to Englande of all other for if the Queenes Maiestie should enriche set in authoritie or promote the sayde theeues murtherers pyrates coyners clyppers of money and counterfeaters of her highnesse seale vnlesse they be papistes withall they would thanke her loue her obey her and obserue 〈◊〉 lawes and so of Englishe enemies become Englishe friendes whiche you that are peruerse and determined papistes woulde neuer doe though her grace should do so to you for as harlots that loue other better than they loue their husbands though their husbandes loue 〈◊〉 neuer so well set all their whole minde deuises and studies howe to bee ridde of their husbandes Euen so you that are obstinate and determined papists that are spiritual fornicators though the Queenes Maiestie shoulde giue you great liuings set you in authoritie or highly promote you yet for all that your chiefe minde and studie would bee howe to be ridde of her grace howe to displace her and howe to haue a papist to rule in her roome whereby you might at your own 〈◊〉 commit spirituall whoredom with Idols Images and the Masse whiche you loue better then your owne louing husbande Christe the sonne of God And thus let the Queenes Maiestie do for you neuer so muche yet you will not bee Englishe friendes but vtter enemies to her grace and to Englande your owne natiue Countrey vntill of peruers papistes you become perfite protestants which is altogether my drift Yet I beseech you marke this consider it wel though very neede compell the aforesaide for the most part to be theeues murtherers pyrates coyners of money and such like to be Englishe enemies which may and doe dayly become Englishe friendes yet there are such lawes for them as therefore they are put to death But for you that are obstinate and disobedient papistes that are so great enemies to England without neede and that nothing can reclaime to bee friendes to Englande our most mylde and mercifull Queene as yet hath made no suche lawe to put you to death nor grieuously to punishe you though you deserue death a great deale more all thinges well weyed and considered than any of the other 〈◊〉 enemies doe For if one that clippeth or diminisheth the Queenes coyne whereon her Image or picture is but printed or stampte is worthily called a traytor and by lawe therefore is hanged drawen and quartered Then are not you woorthy to bee called traytours and deserue death whiche procure wishe or desire by any meane the displasinge of your prynce the destruction of her person the alteration of our moste quyete and happie state the calamitie of your Countreymen the confusion of the common wealth and the ruine of this our worthy realme of Englande Here the indifferent reader may perceine that by these my argumentes I haue prooued you that are obstinate peruerse disobedient and determined papistes to be earnest and extreeme 〈◊〉 to Englande and that you deserue death a great deale more thē theeues murtherers pyrats coiners of money and such like but that all papistes are woorse and deserue more death then drunkardes theeues murtherers and pyrates as you haue falsely fathered on mee I am most certayne I neuer sayde wrote nor thought For there are many simple seduced papistes that are not of your mind You did not meane to declare my woordes effectually neyther that the trueth of these my argumentes should appeare seeing you wrote but fifteene woordes of that whiche hardely woulde bee comprehended in fifteene lynes and yet most vnchristianly you falsified my saying thereby to wrest the sence of my wordes to that whiche I mee selfe doe knowe is contrarie and false And to what ende haue you done this for soothe beecause you hate mee for telling of trueth you woulde haue your reader dispise mee as one that doth lie You made a fayre shew with a sentence of Salomā in y t first side of your booke that you Iesuites are vtter enemies to lying yea and as though there were no such lyers as wee against whome you wrote saying a lying witnesse shall haue an euill ende but I truste the indifferent reader will say that hitherto you haue not taken nor prooued mee with any one lie though I haue too manifestly proued you with so many that though perhappes it will not make a Iesuite blushe it woulde make a Christian marueylously ashamed If you sought as muche for the fauour of God as you desire the vaineglory of the worlde you would not vse lying which you seeme to dispise nor yet such falshood which God doth detest But as your doctrine is diabolicall so are your doinges hipocritical You knowe what place is prepared for lyers well enough God keepe both you and vs from it He that knoweth his masters will and doeth it not shall be beaten with many stripes then you that bring the Scripture against lyers in the firste side of your booke and vse lying and manifest falshood so oft in your booke vnlesse you repent and amende are not like to bee beaten with fewe stripes It is easie to perceiue whose part you take for if you tooke Gods part which is the father of trueth he would guide you in trueth but seeing you take the Diuels part which is the father of lyes hee
leades you to lying therefore if you loue God tell the trueth and if you hate the diuell flye falshood Thus you haue peest and patcht my sayings with your 〈◊〉 ragges and put in and pulled out chopt and changed and placed and displaced my wordes as you thought good with foisting in of your owne woordes whiche I neuer wrote besides that you haue most nakedly and barely without any circumstances or argumentes 〈◊〉 vp such a sort of my matters in such a strait roome that is in 16. of your litle shorte lynes the causes proofes and effects whereof are scantly comprehended in so many of my leaues 〈◊〉 and without disproouing or confuting any parte of the same For other wordes then mine owne by you cutte short or 〈◊〉 or thrust in for mine owne yon alledged none as here by your woordes appeareth for I haue written and set downe all your whole and verie woordes concerning your deriding and slaundering my booke hitherto without diminishing or adding any thing therevnto Which plainnesse if you had vsed with mee you had then written more matter and fewer lyes And when you had shortened my sayings maymed my method cutte off my conclusions hidde my argumentes falsified my wordes and thruste in what you liste to the disabling of mee and discrediting of my booke more craftelye then Christianly you conclude with these woordes This is Luptons charitable doctrine with manye thinges more which Iomitte and so you ende without any moe woordes or further argumente whereby your reader may perceiue the trueth of your dealing though you say this is Luptons charitable doctrine But howe charitable soeuer it is your doctrine and doinges hether to are not verie commendable The 56. part ANd nowe that you haue learnedly and cunningly confuted the firste and seconde parte of my booke according to your owne accompt onely with displasing leauing out and curtalling of my woordes and foisting in of your own as before it is manifestly proued you come to the third part as you call it and confutes the same onely with briefe reciting of my wordes and nowe and then falsifiyng the same as you did before without any one argument of your own for the disprouing thereof Thinking belike that your reader is bounde to take all for lies that a Iesuite doth recite Me thinks you haue takē a very euil course for the discrediting of my booke for if you are a credible man your selfe as a Iesuite can bee none other if you recite a lie it will bee thought to bee true because you haue tolde it as if a lyer chaunce to tell trueth it will not bee beleeued but bee taken for a lie Nowe chuse you whether you will be counted a credible and a true man and thereby haue my booke counted for trueth because my woordes are recited by you or else to bee a lyer and to haue my booke taken for false because you repeate or recite the wordes thereof But as hither to I haue not left out any one woorde of yours touching your confuting of my booke which you call the first and seconde part so I will not conceale or hide your woordes touching the rest of my booke whiche you call the thirde part Whereby the indifferent reader shal perceiue how learnedly a Iusuite hath confuted a christian with saying of nothing But it may bee that as lay mens dalliyng and kissing of women must bee construed or iudged otherwise then priestes dalliyng and kissing of women as before is mentioned so perhappes the Iesuites disproouing or confuting is contrary to the Christians confuting For as the Christians confute by writing so the Iesuites may confute by thinking whiche is a thing necessarie for your reader to vnderstande For though you doe not drisprooue or confute mee by writing yet hee maye suppose you haue confuted me by thinking Therefore if the Iesuites haue that aduantage of the Christian they may easily and quickly confute what so euer is written against them And surely if you haue confuted my booke it must needes bee by thinking and not by writing And nowe without any falsehood I will write your owne woordes which you recite as myne and these are they that followe In his thirde part hee prooueth his religion by euident and manifest myracles out of Master Foxe his Actes and Monumentes as for example That one Burton Bayliffe of Crowlande in Lincolne shyre for compelling a curate to say Masse vpon zeale of papistrie in the beginning of Queene Maries dayes was afterwardes for his punishment called K. by a crowe that flewe ouer his head And besides that his 〈◊〉 embrued with the Crowes dongue that shee let fall vpon him which dongue did so stinke vpon his beard as made him continually to vomit for diuers dayes vntill he died most miserably I remember very well that in the 294. page of my said booke I haue described a strange example and a doleful and miserable end of one Burton Bayliffe of Crowlande in Lincolne shire a hastie procurer and a great defender of the masse in Queene Maries time but not altogether vttered in that sort as here you haue reported it for I saide not that hee was called R. for his punishment But though you seeme to deride me for writing of it yet you haue not so much as with one woorde gone about to disproue it neither haue you saide that it is false or vntrue for if you coulde I am sure you woulde A strange matter that you would haue your Reader to 〈◊〉 my wordes and yet doe not confute them nor goe about to disproue them You say hee compelled him to say masse vpon zeale of Papistrie But I woulde knowe who willed him to haue such zeale in papistrie Or who willed him to haue such a loue to the masse that hee should hate his brother that God commaunded 〈◊〉 to loue or threate to thrust his dagger in him vnlesse hee would say masse which cruel dealing you haue left out Surely it may well belong to the religion of a Iesuite but I am sure it is cleane contrary to the religion of a Christian. You call it in the margent Luptons myracle no it was none of my myracle it was Gods myracle yea and suche a myracle that if you had the feare and grace of God you woulde not so deridingly and contemptuously write of the mightie hand and great iudgement of God shewed therein You write also in the margent a simple fellow that forgat by cutting of his beard to saue his life Either you woulde haue your Reader beleeue that it was a lye or that hee might haue saued his life by cutting of his beard If it 〈◊〉 a lye why haue you not prooued it a lye And if it were true as it was very true doe you thinke that all the cutting or washing of his beard that might bee was able to saue saue his life whom God did vetermine to bring to his death no no it is impossible If a little Sparrowe light not on