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A81396 Christ exalted, and alone worthy to open the seals of the book. And the scriptures owned in their place. A true testimony of him, as is manifest, in answer to a book, intituled, The Quakers apostacy, from the perfect rule of scriptures. Given forth by John Timson, of Great Bowden in Leicestershire. And the deceits and blasphemies he charges upon the Quakers, is turned upon his own head, and he found guilty of what he reproaches them with, in what is written for the simples sake, and truth to clear from false accusations and lyes cast upon it. And the ten queries he saith he vindicateth, and would print but foure of them, they are all published, with the answers that he charges to be confused, dark and deceitfull, that the answers may witnesse for themselves against what is charged upon them. He that hath an understanding in the light, read and judge. / William Dewsberry. Dewsbury, William, 1621-1688. 1656 (1656) Wing D1258; Thomason E891_6; ESTC R206512 24,367 32

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to reforme them and draw them up to a higher pitch of Christian obedience according to the written word of the Lord. Ans Thou with all who are in the light is seen to be in thy wisedome querying after many lights but as is formerly written in answer to thy 4. Quest the●e is but one true light Christ who lighteth every one that comes into the world and all his ministers turnes the mindes of people from darknesse to Christ the true light in it to waite on him for his power to destroy the power of Satan and to lead in the straite narrow way of self denyal and the daily Crosse which is the way into the Kingdome of God who ever will be my Disciple saith Christ he must deny himself and take up his Crosse daily and follow me Luke 19. 23. 7. Qu. Whether a sinner condemned by the Law is made just before God unto eternall life by an inherent power within or worke of Sanctification or whether by the satisfaction and suffering of Christ in mans nature and behalfe rested on by faith Ans The Creature whose Conscience is awakened by the light the righteous Law of God in the heart which shews it its sinfull state and stands condemned before the Throne of God for disobeying the light shall never be justified by any self righteousnesse for it is uncleannesse in the sight of God for justification is through faith in the Lord Jesus but this faith which layes hold on Christ for justification is not attained by any power the creature hath of its self neither can any know it who receive honor one of another Joh. 5. 44. How can ye beleeve who receive honor one of another and seek not the honor that comes from God onely faith is the gift of God given to the Children of light who waits in the light on the Lord in the way of his judgements Isa 26. 8. till judgement be brought forth into victory that the creature be brought into true poverty of spirit for ever to perish without free redemption in the Lord Jesus which the father in his appointed time reveales the son to the soule that stands condemned before him and by the arme of his mighty power creates it to a lively hope and he that hath this hope in him purifieth himself even as he is pure so whom he justifieth he sanctifieth and he that saith he is justified and liveth in sin deceiveth himself for faith purifieth the heart and purgeth the Conscience from dead works to serve the liveing God which is witnessed in the Children of light according to testimony of Scripture Heb. 9. 14. 8. Qu. Whether the person or essence of Christ or his spirit dwell in any upon earth or whether by his gifts and graces onely or whether all those that have Christ in them must forsake all outward teaching of men and whether the Scripture be but a dead letter and of no use otherwaies then Christ within doth witnesse unto them Ans He that knows not Christ to be in him is a reprobate for he that hath not the Spirit of Christ is none of his and he that is guided by the spirit of Christ needs not any teaching of man for you shall not neede to teach one another for all my Children shall be taught of me saith the Lord God and the Scripture is but a killing letter but of use in its place d testimony of Christ but not any knows Christ by it for Christ is known by the light of his spirit which gave forth the Scriptures and all that are guided by his spirit knows the Scripture in the truth as it is in Jesus ●ph 4. 21. 9. Qu. Whether the conversion that was wrought upon the souls of many under the ordinary outward ministry of the word in our publique assembles turning men from darknesse to light from prophanesse to true Godlinesse be true unto salvation and whether those that have been thus converted were in the state of salvation before they joyned themselves unto your society or whether can none be converted and saved that never came under nor gave their assent to the dispensation of your way and how you will justifye yours to be in the true and good old way that all have and shall be saved in you may do well to make it out by some evident demonstration Ans Who can witnesse a true conversion by the power of the spirit of God in turning their mindes from darknesse to light that comes from Christ and in his light waite to receive the sentence of death in themselves to destroy all self confidence in any thing below Christ and in the state of death to wait till that they heare the voice of the Son of God and by his power was raised up to a liveing hope in Christ to walk who throw his blood do witnesse their garments washed and made white to reigne Kings and Preists upon the earth for ever to worship the father in spirit and truth and who ever can witnesse this conversion whether it were wrought when they frequented your publique assemblies or absented from them this conversion we owne who it can witnesse and of our way they are and will to us come and all shall know the truth we witnesse is the good old way that all souls that came to God walked in Christ the way the truth and the life the ancient of daies which was before time but manifest in time in all the Children of light who doth them lead in the narrow way of self denial and the daily Cross with him to enter thorow the strait gate into the holy City new Jerusalem where the soule hath union which the father of light and beholds his face and his name is written in their foreheads and there is no night there neither need of Candle nor light of the Sun for the Lord God giveth them light and they shall reigne for ever and ever Rev. 22. 5. 10. Whether any of your way attaine unto perfection in this life that they can truly say that they do all that God commands without failing either in matter or in manner of obedience no not in thought word and deed and whether the persons of any stand just before God that are not thus perfect Ans All that are in the way we are in which is Christ the way to the Father in whom all in their measure are pressing on to the fulness of stature in Christ the perfect man and who in him is grown to the fulnesse of stature in his power doth stand which doth them guide that in their mouthes is found no guile for they are without fault before the Throne of God Rev. 14. 5. FINIS
who is the way the truth and the life and no man cometh to the father but by him Jo. 14. 6. So none comes to the knowledge of the father by reading the Scriptures though they think to finde life there they shall not if they come not to Christ of whom they testifie and in whom the life is who saith search the Scriptures for in them ye think to have eternall life and they are they which testifie of me and he reproves all who will not come to him that they may have life So what thou charges us withall thou art the man that denys the authority of Scriptures and found guilty of slandering the Children of light as what is written makes manifest and what as followeth will make thee more manifest to all that have eyes to see the many falshhoods and lyes thou hast begun the booke withall in that thou calls the preface to the reader so out of thy owne mouth thou art condemned 4. The fourth false accusation thou sayst we are so drunk with delusion and impudency that we will rather charge the Scripture with deceit then question our owne deceitfull hearts Reply In the presence of God we witnesse against thee we owne the Scripture to be the Scripture of truth and do not charge the Scripture with deceit but with the light of Christ that gave forth the Scriptures and discovereth the deceit of the heart with which light we judge the deceit of the heart and witnesse against thee in the light which makes known to us the Scripture in the truth as it is in Jesus Christ the light God is our witnesse 5. The fifth false accusation thou sayst we rite and speak the L●nguage of Scripture as if we were for it and is not which is rancke hypocrisy and done of purpose to deceive Reply We in the light speak as moved of the Lord 2 Pet. 1. 21. whose Language is according to Scripture and doing any thing in hypocrisy we deny as to deceive any the Lord is our witnesse who will rebuke the lying spirit and stop thy lying mouth 6. The sixth false accusation thou sayst we boast that we are as perfect as Christ that dyed at Jerusalem Reply Thy charge is false boasting we deny or any perfection that is of self our righteousnesse without Christ is as a filthy ragg and a menstruous cloth Christ our righteousnesse who is the true light that lighteth every one that comes into the world Jo. 1. 9. we witnesse him the same Christ as was in that body that suffered at Jerusalem and every one of the Children of light in the measure of growth in him the same minde is in them that was in Christ Jesus Phil. 2. 5. who is the brightnesse of the fathers glory Heb. 1. 3. 7. The seventh false accusation thou sayst we say that he that trusts in Christ that dyed at Jerusalem for Salvation shall be deceived Reply This charge is false as the other in the presence of God we witnesse against thee no other Christ we bear testimony of to be the salvation of lost man and woman but that Christ according to Scripture testimony who was born of the virgin and bore a good confession before Pilate and suffered at Jerusalem and rose again the third day and ascended into Heaven and sitteth at the right hand of God and this Christ we witnesse the true light who lighteth every one that comes into the world and saith I stand at the door and knock who opens I will come into him and sup with him and he with me Rev. 3. 20. and we witnesse him faithfull and as many as receives him to them he gives power to become the Sons of God and this is the condemnation of all because they beleeve not in him Jo. 1. 12. 8. The eight false accusation thou sayst we reproach Christs institutions and holy ordinances with the odium of mens tradiditions outward observations inconsistent with Gods Kingdome and compares them to Nebuchadnezzars great Idol c. Reply Thy Charge is false Christs institutions and holy ordinances we owne in the dispensation of time they were to be continued and what is now in this dispensation of time known in the administration of his spirit we owne but who upholds any Idolatry in observing any thing by tradition and not guided by the Spirit of Christ and so walke contrary to the perfect Law of God in the Conscience and though their words be never so glorious in outward appearance in crying the Ordinances of Christ while they deny to be guided by Christ they are no Ordinances of Christ but an Image set up in the proud exalted nature which Nebuchad nezzar set up his Image in which with the power of God shall be throwne downe and thou with the rest of the Idol worshipers shall be broken to peices and lyes shall not save thee for the Lord will exalt his name and his Children that observe his holy ordinances shall reigne in his his spirituall power that preserves them therein to observe the moveings of his spirit which doth lead to worship the father in spirit and truth according to testimony of Scripture Joh. 4. 23 24. And when thou John Timson hast presented thy false accusations and lyes to the Reader in the preface of thy Booke that they might receive the falsehoods and lyes that are written therein and these lyes and slanders which are here laid before thee and witnessed against in the answer there to returned will sufficienly prove to thy face and be manifest to that of God in every ones Conscience that thou hast spoken unadvisedly with thy lips when thou sayst thou lies not and all these lies found in thy mouth given forth publiquely for all to read and thou declares to the Reader that the Lord knows what diligence and tendernesse of bowels thou hast had to prepare it for them c. Reply Blush for shame O vain man to appeale to the Lords knowledge of thy d●l●gence and tendernesse of bowels to prepare so many lyes and falshoods for people to read thou shalt certainly know that the Lord takes notice of thee and he wil lay thee open and make thee manifest and lyes shall not cover thee nor be thy refuge Isa 28. 17. when our God will clear his truth and thy tongue and all others that rise up against him shall fall in judgement the day shall declare it Further thou goes on saying as for those persons that have answered me who have charged me with bringing forth many lyes and slanders and have made a noise thereof as if I were some carnall lying wretch that matters not what I write Reply To that of God in every ones conscience I appeale that lyes proceed from a Carnall wretched heart and the Lord is making thee manifest who would make lyes thy refuge which with the light thou art seen and thy lyes turned upon thee that in the light thou mayst be read what thou art and in the light our Books