religion_n may_v not_o be_v propagate_v by_o the_o civil_a sword_n unto_o which_o i_o reply_v what_o mean_v then_o this_o passage_n in_o his_o first_o answer_n to_o the_o former_a speech_n of_o the_o king_n viz._n we_o acknowledge_v that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v constrain_v to_o believe_v or_o profess_v the_o true_a religion_n till_o he_o be_v convince_v in_o judgement_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o defender_n if_o it_o be_v observe_v my_o agreement_n with_o hilary_n then_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v that_o the_o discusser_v in_o whet_v the_o word_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n against_o we_o lay_v a_o false_a charge_n upon_o we_o as_o if_o we_o maintain_v such_o persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n as_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o ancient_a writer_n of_o who_o hilary_n be_v name_v for_o one_o and_o for_o the_o first_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o discussion_n it_o be_v find_v that_o we_o agree_v with_o he_o in_o that_o answer_n to_o the_o speech_n of_o the_o king_n when_o 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forth_o that_o christ_n delight_v not_o in_o the_o blood_n of_o such_o man_n or_o that_o he_o will_v not_o have_v such_o molest_v by_o the_o civil_a sword_n who_o gainsay_v christ_n know_v and_o profess_v and_o join_v with_o his_o enemy_n antichrist_n in_o blaspheme_v and_o persecute_v christ_n and_o his_o saint_n this_o the_o discusser_n can_v never_o make_v good_a to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v indeed_o to_o publish_v the_o glad_a tiding_n of_o the_o gospel_n not_o to_o the_o humble_a and_o meek_a lamb_n of_o christ_n but_o to_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o serpent_n to_o sow_v pillow_n under_o all_o elbow_n to_o make_v the_o heart_n of_o the_o righteous_a sad_a who_o god_n will_v not_o make_v sad_a and_o to_o strengthen_v the_o hand_n of_o the_o wicked_a in_o their_o apostasy_n from_o the_o truth_n and_o malignity_n against_o it_o christ_n have_v pronounce_v it_o upon_o earth_n and_o ratify_v it_o in_o heaven_n those_o my_o enemy_n that_o will_v not_o that_o i_o shall_v 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of_o it_o for_o may_v it_o not_o just_o be_v conceive_v that_o the_o lord_n therefore_o hide_v the_o place_n of_o his_o burial_n lest_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n know_v it_o may_v go_v a_o whore_v after_o his_o sepulchre_n and_o it_o may_v be_v offer_v sweet_a incense_n upon_o it_o and_o so_o such_o false_a worship_n against_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n may_v come_v to_o be_v tolerate_v for_o honour_n to_o the_o body_n of_o moses_n but_o christ_n have_v abolish_v a_o nationall_n state_n or_o church_n which_o moses_n set_v up_o in_o canaan_n though_o christ_n abolish_v a_o nationall_n church-state_n and_o instead_o thereof_o set_v up_o a_o congregationall_a church_n yet_o christ_n never_o abolish_v a_o nationall_n civil_a state_n nor_o the_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n which_o be_v of_o moral_a equity_n but_o establish_v they_o rather_o in_o their_o place_n and_o order_n he_o that_o shed_v his_o own_o blood_n to_o plant_v his_o church_n do_v never_o abolish_v that_o law_n which_o 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be_v not_o persecute_v for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n but_o punish_v for_o sin_v against_o his_o conscience_n discusser_n the_o king_n observe_v that_o most_o lamentable_o true_a experience_n of_o all_o age_n that_o persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n have_v ever_o prove_v pernicious_a etc._n etc._n defender_n no_o experience_n in_o any_o age_n do_v ever_o prove_v it_o pernicious_a to_o punish_v seduce_v apostate_n after_o due_a conviction_n of_o the_o error_n of_o their_o way_n wherein_o do_v the_o burn_a of_o servetus_n prove_v pernicious_a to_o geneva_n or_o the_o just_a execution_n of_o many_o popish_a priest_n to_o queen_n elizabeth_n or_o to_o the_o english_a state_n but_o the_o king_n speech_n may_v pass_v if_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o persecution_n proper_o so_o call_v to_o wit_n oppression_n of_o the_o faithful_a for_o the_o truth_n sake_n yea_o if_o it_o be_v the_o punishment_n of_o any_o for_o error_n if_o not_o fundamental_o pernicious_a either_o to_o religion_n 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world_n nickname_v puritan_n or_o the_o like_a and_o of_o they_o too_o without_o conviction_n of_o the_o error_n of_o their_o way_n but_o in_o that_o the_o discusser_n make_v england_n a_o daughter_n of_o the_o great_a whore_n and_o of_o a_o bloody_a nature_n like_o her_o mother_n he_o speak_v as_o some_o other_o of_o the_o rigid_a separation_n have_v do_v before_o he_o but_o i_o can_v never_o yet_o see_v awarrant_n from_o the_o rule_n either_o of_o truth_n or_o love_n for_o such_o a_o speech_n do_v ever_o the_o holy_a scripture_n call_v any_o church_n a_o whore_n that_o worship_v the_o true_a god_n only_o in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n and_o depend_v on_o he_o alone_o for_o righteousness_n and_o salvation_n be_v it_o not_o the_o part_n of_o a_o base_a child_n or_o at_o least_o a_o base_a pair_v of_o a_o child_n to_o call_v his_o mother_n whore_n who_o breed_v he_o and_o breed_v he_o to_o know_v no_o other_o father_n but_o her_o lawful_a husband_n the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n chap._n 60._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o 63._o chap._n discusser_n now_o three_o in_o that_o the_o answerer_n observe_v that_o among_o the_o roman_a emperor_n they_o that_o do_v not_o persecute_v be_v julian_n the_o apostate_n and_o valens_n the_o arian_n whereas_o the_o good_a emperor_n constantine_n gratian_n valentian_n and_o theodosius_n they_o do_v persecute_v the_o arian_n and_o donatist_n let_v it_o be_v for_o a_o answer_n it_o be_v no_o new_a thing_n for_o godly_a and_o eminent_o godly_a man_n to_o perform_v ungodly_a action_n nor_o for_o ungodly_a person_n for_o wicked_a end_n to_o act_v what_o in_o itself_o be_v good_a and_o righteous_a etc._n etc._n defender_n this_o may_v go_v for_o a_o truth_n but_o not_o for_o a_o answer_n the_o letter_n will_v justify_v toleration_n of_o religion_n from_o the_o judgement_n and_o speech_n of_o three_o king_n i_o answer_v that_o be_v no_o argument_n for_o i_o can_v bring_v he_o king_n more_o in_o number_n and_o great_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n 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man_n send_v to_o convert_v and_o gather_v church_n apostle_n etc._n etc._n second_o yet_o the_o examiner_n confess_v that_o at_o the_o pastor_n feed_v his_o flock_n and_o at_o the_o prophet_n prophesy_v in_o the_o church_n a_o unbeleiver_n come_v in_o may_v be_v convince_v etc._n etc._n but_o this_o be_v accidental_a etc._n etc._n three_o the_o examiner_n acknowledge_v that_o it_o please_v god_n to_o work_v personal_a repentance_n in_o the_o heart_n of_o thousand_o in_o germany_n england_n low-countries_n france_n scotland_n ireland_n etc._n etc._n yea_o and_o who_o know_v but_o in_o italy_n spain_n and_o rome_n also_o etc._n etc._n but_o all_o this_o have_v be_v under_o the_o notion_n of_o minister_n feed_v their_o flock_n not_o of_o preacher_n send_v to_o convert_v the_o unconvert_v and_o unbeleive_v reply_n 1._o though_o