THE CONVICTION Of JAMES NAYLOR and his black spirit demonstrated from his own confessions lyes evasions and contradictions in the maine points of Doctrine by him held forth against the truth In answer to a Book of his called Wickednesse weighed The which was writt in answer to a little Treatise called The Quakers quaking Principles examined and Refuted written by ELLIS BRADSHAVV This Treatise is therefore directed by way of appeale to all the truly Judicious to be weighed in the Ballance of the Sanctuary and to see in which end of the scales the wickednes lyeth his end or mine And also some Rules held forth whereby to try the spirits whether they be of God yea or no in case of visions or apparitions yea dreames or voyces whether speaking within or without As also some Scripture Rules for discerning the motions and lustings of the spirit and flesh each from the other that so wee might not be led blind-fold to destruction by any deluding spirits within us or without Written by ELLIS BRADSHAVVE Acts 13.9 10 11. Then Saul who also is called Paul filled with the holy Ghost sett his eyes on him And said Oh full of all subtiltie and all mischiefe thou child of the Devill thou enemy of all goodnesse how long wilt thou not cease to pervert the right wayes of the Lord And now behold the hand of the Lord is upon thee and thou shalt be blind not seeing the Sunne for a season c. LONDON Printed by M. S. for Lodowike Lloyd at the Castle in Cornwall 1656. THE CONVICTION of JAMES NAYLOR and his black spirit demonstrated from his own confessions lyes evasions and contradictions in the maine points of Doctrine by him held forth against the truth READERS James Naylor asserteth in his Title page concerning my booke that it is dedicated as I say unto his Highnesse the Lord Protector c. The which I say is true but what of that he saith nothing and therefore needeth no answer But further he saith that it is much boasted off by the Author but as little worth as the boast is great I answer I did commend it to ingage his Highnes to the reading of it least his multitude of buisinesse should cause him to neglect it And what of all that doth not James Naylor commend his Doctrines and Teachings and Judgements and Censures and tells us it is by the eternall light and Spirit of God that he holdeth them forth as you may see in any of his Bookes wherein we know he lyeth But it will appeare I therein speake the truth and nothing more And as for the worth of that Treatise when it is weighed in the Ballance of the Sanctuary it will appeare I did not over-value it in my commendations of it but of that let the readers judge Againe he saith also that it was my envie that carried mee with such envie against the innocent till I spake I knew not what concerning the Father and the Sonne the Word the Light and Spirit I answer though he Judge so of me whom in derision he calleth the man yet the truth is I care not to be Judged of James Naylor Nor for ought he knoweth not of mans Judgement But he that Judgeth me is the Lord Nor would I change my condition with James Naylor nor for ought he knoweth not with any man living on the earth And how then can James Naylor know that it was envie that carried me And how can I envie those I account off to be wicked and destinate to destruction for ought I yet see in them that in my apprehension are farre from innocency in the sight of God And how dare I then be envious against them or choose any of their wayes see Psal 37 1. Pro. 23.17 24.1 I shall not envie them till they be more innocent then I yet see them And therefore his censure of mee that I speake I know not what doth not trouble mee at all for I expected no better f om his lying spirit Though he cannot nor doth not in the least prove it so in any of his Answers And why should I beleeve it upon his owne testimony who beginneth with lyes in his Title page Againe hee saith That here is also some markes and maintenance of the true Ministers set downe and also of the false their fruits differing them accoring to Christs Rules in Scripture with diverse other things to keepe the simple from deceite All which when weighed in the ballance let the truth appeare for so I wish of God whether they be or no true or false according to Christs Rule in Scripture yea whether they be in deed to keepe the simple from deceite or clearely and really to deceive the simple and to make them also deceivers of others And againe he telleth us it is by a friend to the worke of God but an enemy to the Devills worke where it is found and pleaded for called of the world James Naylor To this I answer that if this were true what then should be the reason that hee blameth me in his second page for asking Why should not I whiles I am in the world endeavour to destroy the works of the Devill seeing he sayth of himselfe that he is an enemy to the worke of the Devill and if he be so he will labour to destroy it for it is doubtlesse lawfull and a following of Christ as much as in us lyeth to destroy the works of the Devill and none but Devills and their instruments will blame any man for so indeavouring nor call it a setting of himselfe to the stead of Christ for no man can either doe it or indeavour it what in him lyeth but through his grace and assistance and the power of his Spirit as so I never spake otherwise in all my life And he can and will for ought Naylor knoweth enable mee in some measure by his strength to doe it But if I be an exilted wretch and seeke to set my selfe in the stead of Christ as so he calleth mee I know he will not and therefore it is in vaine to indeavour it for hee giveth his grace to the humble And beholdeth the wicked as a farre off and as having no mind to Imploy them in any such service nor any such as are setled in their wickednesse and dare take the office of Christ and attribute it to themselves But the Quakers looke for such amongst themselves they are easily found And it is the Quakers spirit and not the Spirit of God that ever did or shall puffe men up to any such conceits or apprehension of themselves And what James Naylor may conceite of himselfe I well know not For something or other hee would intimate unto us when hee putteth that preamble before his name as in many of his Bookes to wit Called of the world James Naylor Now whether hee would have us thinke that hee is the Christ the sonne of the living God and that Christ that dyed at Jerusalem was
every one had need But James Naylor dare though hee hath his ground to seeke for hee sheweth no reason worth mentioning I suppose hee was affraid with Judas least hee should not seeme charitable to the poore for under pretence of the poore so hee could keepe it from the Ministers of Christ and so from Christ himselfe hee would have it for himselfe and the Quaker-Ministers to fill their baggs though they are theeves and Robbers spiritually as Judas was carnally For it is evident that hee accounteth no poore deserving nor no Ministers deserving but the Quakers poore and Ministers Though hee saith if they be found Ministers of Christ farre be it from mee to hould from them that maintenance which Christ ever allowed his Ministers But that hee alloweth none to be found his Ministers but the Quaker-Ministers is evident for as for all such as preach in our publike places which hee calle 〈◊〉 our Idoll Temples are condemned by him as Ministers of Antichrist and not sent of God So that hee and I are at a great distance from accordance though hee seemeth to graunt to all that I plead for or ever intended it to wit such as are found to be Ministers of Christ Nor have I in the least pleaded for any other if they be knowne to be such And therefore though hee Imperiously commandeth mee when I write againe first to prove them so and then call them so I answer I called not any by name nor doe I know but few of very many that are knowne faithfull labourers in Gods harvest therefore I cannot enter into any particulars it would be too large to proove every particular Minister of Christ sent of God by the particular grounds and Reasons to cleare every man that yet is cleare in the sight of God But I am not so omnitient yet if I heare them preach in the cleare evidence and demonstration of the spirit and of power by that I can know them though I cannot demonstrate the same unto James Naylor as such I know many that preach in our publike places which yet are but a few in comparison of what there is that I know not nor ever saw Nor will I goe about to decipher them out by their markes so as to condemne all as hee hath done yet if they be Wolves that come in sheepes cloathing or meere hirelings or clearely Antichristian or if by any of their fruits I can certainly know them to be theeves and Robbers and such as are carnall and worldly and proud and vaine boasters or heretickes or schismatickes and such like I shall and doe disowne them as much and more then James Naylor doth But amongst the Rest I disowne James Naylor in particular for being so much as like any Minister of Christ that ever was in the world But dare maintaine him for one of the primest of all that â—athan hath and the most audacious in a bad cause Now hee telleth mee further that another argument I use saying wee ought to account them as spirituall Fathers And saith that if any so doe whom they have not spiritually begotten such account of a lye and thou teaches them to it I answer That is one of James Naylors lyes for if they be fathers to others and I know it though they did not beget mee yet I ought to account them so else I account of a lye above the truth oh shamelesse lyar who but will know this to be a lye at the first reading If they be fathers they are so though not to mee But for all those markes that James Naylor hath given to know them by I will not follow him throughout Because that this I know That if they be such who have the manifestation of the Spirit and preach in the evidence and demonstration thereof and that with power Though I see in them many humane frailties and that they be subject to like passions as other men are nay though Jonas-like they should shew themselves angerie with the Lord himselfe and that for shewing mercy and say they doe well to be angerie even to the very death yet I shall not deny but they are sent of God and ought to be maintained as his faithfull Ambassadours and hee that denyeth them denyeth Christ and hee that condemneth and Judgeth them as no Ministers of Christ because of such passions and frailties doth also condemne and Judge himselfe for the same censure that hee casteth upon them if hee doth the same or worser things It Redoundeth to himselfe by the Judgement of the Lord for saith hee With what Judgement yee Judge yee shall be Judged And therefore James Naylor hath cause to feare that Judgement attendeth him and will befall him and that ere long if hee doth not repent especially after Conviction in his owne Conscience of his injurious Censures and blasphemous Reproaches cast like a flood out of his mouth and penn to make them all odious amongst the people of God But I must not stand any longer upon this third particular but shall fall to answer breifly his Catalogue of lyes that hee would father upon mee but may keepe them himselfe as more properly his owne For 1. Saith hee Thou sayes our spirit teacheth us to pull downe mens faith and hope they have in God Ans True and that by calling men carnall and damned when you cannot proove any such thing 2. That wee give no honour or worship either to God or man Ans Not that I know off let them shew wherein 3. That we have no knowledge of God at all but a wicked lying malicious spirit that is an enemy to all goodnesse Ans And so I verily beleeve and that for those reasons rendred in the booke 4. That our wicked lying spirit teacheth us to speake evill of all men that embrace not our lying doctrines and wayes Ans The truth of this I Referre to the Judgements of all that know their Rayling and Reviling of the Ministers and professors of all sorts the Quakers excepted who onely embrace their wayes 5. That the Elect may be so farre lead away with the errour of the wicked as to fall from their owne steadfastnesse Ans I say from their owne proper steadfastnesse they may which word proper hee leaveth out to deceive the simple And so I say they may else the Apostles exhortation was needlesse 2 Pet. 3.17 6. That the case is Just with us deluded Quakers as it is with Witches Ans And so it is in those Respects therein mentioned as I could have prooved it by examples of some of those people 7. That wee bitterly Revile and Reproach all the Saints and servants of God almost over all the world Ans And I said true for they Revile and Reproach all professors but of their owne way and those are no Saints but more like Devills 8. That our pleading for so many good things and sharply reprooving of evill and our coming to the light with the deeds can be no other but from a deluding
Christ yea or no see Gala 1.8 And if hee doth not repent his Judgement is passed already by the spirit of truth who cannot lye And then againe hee beginneth to charge mee for pleading for Reverent gestures to worship God in as well as in spirit The which I confesse I did For page 27. I asked where it is said in Scripture that God is not to be worshipped with reverend gestures of the body as well as in spirit and truth To which hee answereth And whereas thou art pleading for reverend gestures to worship God in as well as in spirit I say in at that doore came your Altars your bowings your surplices and conformities wherein the teachers of this Nation was leading back to Rome the mother of these witchcrafts if God had not stopt the way by his hand And now have you got a little peace and thither are you turning againe even in bloody persecuting against all who witnesse against you who testifies against these false wayes c. To which I answer that for ought I know there is no man enforced to worship either with Reverend gestures or without nor any man persecuted or troubled for any such things by any of the powers of this Nation And therefore this is a lye and a slander against those in Authoritie as is well knowne I need not proove it But I onely asked whether the Scripture forbid Reverend gestures of the body as well as in spirit and truth To which he doth not answer properly but sheweth his dislike thereof and that they testifie against such false wayes and gestures set up by the man of sinne In which he clearely condemneth the practice of Christ himselfe Luk. 22.41 And of Poter Act. 9.40 And of Paul Chap. 20.36 Chap. 21.5 Eph. 3.14 And of Daniell Dan. 6.11 And of Solomon 1 Kings 8.54 and 2 Chron. 6.13 And that as unlawfull and the pleading for the lawfullnesse of it an opening of a doore to Altars and bowings Surplices and conformities c. and a making way for an unparalelld persecution and a hasting on to destruction which he sees saith he to be the end of our Reverend gestures And saith he will not the gestures of the Saints serve your worship that which lookes so much out neglects that within so you plead against the Spirit Oh prophane and ungodly spirits It is not enough with them to slander the Magistrates and all that are in authoritie but they will slander the footsteps of the Lords anoynted even the Lord Jesus himselfe and all his anoynted ones from the beginning of the world who have all practised such Reverend gestures in their worshipping of God And then he saith will not the gestures of the Saints serve your worship Oh damnable hypocrisie are they Saints that reproach the practise and footsteps of the Lords anoynted see Psal 89.51 see whose enemies they are And doe they not therein Reproach the footsteps and wayes and gestures of all the Saints that ever lived on the earth And yet they will call themselves Saints as so alwayes did the Popes and Papists that were Devills incarnate and as absolute enemies to the Saints of God and so by consequence to the Lord himselfe as any in the world But for all his scornes it is the practise of the Saints that will serve our worships and all the Saints gestures that were Saints indeed wee cordially approve and account it lawfull to follow their stepps as occasion requires But as for the gestures of Saint James Naylor nor these his doctrines and slanders they will not serve our worships to approve or practise because the Spirit of truth and holines Ingageth us otherwise wee are naturally ingaged by the Spirit of God out of Reverend Respect to his glorious Majestie to serve him with Reverence and godly feare knowing that hee that is our God is a consuming fire see Heb 12.28 29. But if hee that privily slandereth his neighbour shall be cut off see Psal 101.5 Of how much sorer punishment shall hee be counted worthy that slandereth and Reproacheth even the sonne of God and his Reverend gestures in his prayers unto God Can this be any lesse then cleare despite unto the spirit of grace see Heb 10.29 It is a fearefull thing to fall into the hands of the living God see verse 31. It is no strange thing to mee to reade his scornes and reproaches and slanders and censures that in all his bookes hee houldeth forth and fumeth out most bitterly and maliciously against others or my selfe considering his fullnesse of venome and malice cannot be kept in but must burst forth like filthy vomit against the Lord of glory as in this appeares I shall not therefore much care nor take any great notice what hee saith by mee but shall as breifly as possible answer his maine points and referre the Reader to the bookes themselves for Resolution where the wickednesse lyeth for I desire no more but that they reade them both and then let them Judge Againe Pag. 15. hee falleth to worke about the Ministers which is the third maine head saying Thy third thing is for thy maintenance and for thy Ministerie I answer as for my maintenance there is not one word in all my booke as the Reader may see and that hee maketh lyes his Refuge when hee hath nothing to answer that is like the truth And as for Ministers maintenance and for the poore I have pleaded it and prooved it also and that from divers grounds and arguments from Scripture yea and Gospell foundations such as James Naylor never heard before nor have they been published before that I know off either by word or writing as I said in my Epistle the which hee calleth boasting but doth not nor cannot make it appeare to the contrary in the least neither can hee contradict the truth thereof nor blame them justly by any Rationall or spirituall argument though hee reciteth many of them as though hee intended a confutation but in the end cometh off with a faile perverting both my words and meaning that hee might finde breadth for a Reproofe which are but poore shifts for so eminent a Quaker For saith hee and that thou may get something or make a shew for this Religious worke thou art about and that thou may seeme to be a charitable man as Judas did thou putst in the poore with them but seeing there is as much difference betwixt them and the poore as betwixt Masters and beggers I shall therefore set the poore by themselves concerning whom I say be as liberall to them as thou wilt I answer that for my ends in this hee must not be Judge But for what cause hee should set apart the poore by themselves who were ever joyned together by the Lord himselfe when tithes were commanded they to have part as see And whom God hath joyned together I dare not seperate neither did the Apostles in the primitive times but what was given was distributed to all as
spirit Ans I say it is true for that is but done to delude the simple through hypocrisie to make their lyes more feizible as so the Ministers of Sathan are sometimes transformed as if they were Ministers of Righteousnesse as hath been shewed before and so are they 9. That our directing to observe the light in the Conscience is nothing else but to advise them to obey Sathan Ans I say true in such cases wherein I instanced to wit to them in whom hee Ruleth it is no better but so 10. That wee direct people to eye and observe that lying spirit that is in them Ans So they doe by such directions to all those whom they so direct in whom hee raigneth 11. That Naylors doctrine is quite contrarie that any that lacke wisdome should aske it of God Ans I say in my booke Just so and shew my Reasons for it because I finde it not in any of his bookes But onely a direction to seeke it within before they have it And if they have it not already then they want it and ought to aske it of God and not to seeke it where it is wanting and not to be found but it is a grosse directorie so to advise them as so I call it in my booke 12. That Sathan hath got a Commission to be a lying spirit in my mouth Ans Very true and if hee call this a lye hee must father all these lyes himselfe and so be a Devill and the father of lyes for it is not God hee cannot lye 13. That James Naylor is sent with strong delusions to some that they might beleeve a lye Ans True and that to very many of those that beleeved not the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousnesse as so I say it againe and shewed reasons for it in my booke 14. That I would needs be accounted some great Prophet and to have some extraordinary revelations that no man else had knowne before and yet teacheth us nothing except lyes c. Ans I say it is true hee that teacheth us nothing except lyes but what wee knew before now this except lyes hee leaveth out and putteth in c. as was usuall in the Bishops times when they were ashamed to declare all 15. That James Nayor utterly denyeth the manhood of Christ Ans So hee doth by cleare consequence from his doctrine as is prooved in the Treatise for that hee blameth us for owning a Christ without and at a distance to wit his body being in heaven as well as hee is present with us in spirit 16. That I blame men for praising and singing of Psalmes in spirit unto God as the Apostles did Ans In spirit and with the mouth and voyce hee doth calling them Devills Rymes most wickedly and prophanely as is shewed but not answered yet 17. That I often produce the non-proficiency of the people as a ground of disparagement to the word it selfe Ans So hee doth as a disparagement to the Scripture it selfe which I call the expresse word of God and as a disparagement to the teachings of men also which hee cannot deny and therefore this is his lye 18. That James Naylor counteth himselfe the highest and all below him either dwarffes or nothing like Christians Ans And this is true for Reasons therein shewed but is his Recitall hee leaveth out those words to wit either like dwarffes and also the reasons which hee cannot answer 19. That I Reproach and disparage those that take heede to the sure word of prophesie Ans True for so hee doth all that take heede to the Scriptures which the Apostle meant when hee so called it 20. That how the word was made flesh James Naylor understandeth not Ans True I said so let him proove the contrary by shewing it if hee can 21. That James Naylors Directorie is quite contradictorie to the directorie of Scripture Ans True and it is so prooved in the booke 22 That I Naylor requireth Scripture grounds for what hee asserteth which hee never yet gave Ans It is I that require Scripture grounds of him for what hee asserteth the which hee hath not yet nor cannot give and that maketh him to put it in the quite contrary sence as I suppose least the simple should discerne him 23. That wee have no faith in God but in a lying spirit within Ans It really appeares that spirit within them is a lying spirit and yet in that they beleeve but the Spirit of God is not a lying spirit therefore their faith is not in God 24. That wee would make the blood of Christ of none effect Ans It is true your doctrine doth so what in your lyeth as it is prooved in the Treatise and not yet answered 25. That our spirit teacheth us not to put off our hatts when wee pray Ans I was so informed by those that have seene you pray that your practise is so and then I suppose your spirit so teacheth you so that if it be not true yet it not my lye because I was so informed Thus his twenty-five lyes that hee would father upon mee I Returne backe to himselfe in this short dresse And shall passe over his language hee giveth mee as grounded hence because it wanteth footing and come to his last maine charge And lastly saith hee thou goes on to plead for a deale more of thy Masters stuffe wherewithall hee houlds up his kingdome of pride and partialitie and such like stuffe as none ever pleaded for but the Devill and his Ministers who is afraid that his kingdowne should goe downe And thou sayes Sathan tells us that it is our dutie to observe the language held forth in Scripture and the example of Christ and his Apostles and upon paine of damnation not to varie from it And this thou brings to plead against speaking the word thou to a particular I answer If it be laid upon us as an injunction and that upon paine of damnation And no such injunction to be found in Scripture it must needs be of Sathan But James Naylor knoweth there is no such Injunction upon that penaltie in all the Scripture as to threaten damnation for using the custome of the Countrie wherein there is no sinne though they varie from the customes in old time As so If James Naylor should tell mee that in Regard Christ wore a coate without seame therefore I may not weare any but such and that upon paine of damnation I should also say that it came from the Devill nor doe I thinke that James will teach the Quakers to follow the example of Christ in this thing But hee saith hast thou been all along crying up Scriptures in thy booke for a Rule and is now the language of it and the examples of Christ and his Apostles therein become a perswasion of Sathan with thee hast thou not heere shewed what broode thou art one who preferres the Devills pride and the worlds fashions before the examples of Christ and his Apostles and would