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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	father_n	know_v	son_n	4,710	5	5.7013	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85548	The shipwrack of all false churches: and the immutable safety and stability of the true Church of Christ. Occasioned: by Doctour Chamberlen his mistake of her, and the holy scriptures also, by syllogising words, to find out spirituall meanings, when in such cases it is the definition, not the name, by which things are truly knowne.	Graunt, John, of Bucklersbury.	1652 (1652)	Wing G1594; Thomason E674_21; ESTC R207205	29,575	28

THE SHIPWRACK OF ALL False Churches AND The Immutable Safety and Stability of the true Church of CHRIST Occasioned By DOCTOUR CHAMBERLEN His mistake of her and of the Holy Scriptures also by Syllogising words to find out Spirituall Meanings when in such cases it is the Definition not the Name by which things are truly knowne Jer. 9. Trust not in lying words saying the Temple of the Lord the Temple of the Lord c. Psal. 87. 2. The Lord loveth the Gates of Sion more then all the dwellings of Jacob Matth. 12. 36 37. But I say unto you That every idle word that men shall speake they shall give account thereof in the day of Judgement For by thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned LONDON Printed and are to be sold by G. Calvert at the West End of Pauls and J. Hancock in Popes-head Alley 1652. To the Church of Christ at London Beloved of God called by the Spirit to be Saints in Christ Jesus All grace be multiplyed FAITHFULL FRIENDS IN love to you and the Truth I have undertaken in your Cause and in the right of you all to discover a counterfeit Friend whom I lately met with that did aver to my selfe and to others of your society That to be your state and condition your devotion fruit and manifestation which upon triall proved no better then carnall and sensuall And having received perfect knowledge of you by the same spirit that doth make and constitute you I could not keep silence but instantly reproved him openly yet notwithstanding that publick disclaim I made of what he said he hath since printed that which he then verbally avouched which is so unsavory and to your holy and pure nature so contrary From which aspersion to free you I have made bold to declare and make knowne your holy and spirituall birth life constitution fellowship communion hope and worship in the purity and spirituall part of Gods Ordinances your divine communion with the Father and with the Son in the Spirit your righteous Garments without you and Gods habitation with his comfortable refreshments within you your peculiar treasures and priviledges in knowing the Truth and the Administration of it also the heavenly power you have with Christ and what it is indeed to be gathered together in his name and how clear and intire you stand distinct from all other Churches that boldly call themselves by your Titles and Appellations and lay claim to your own immunities and priviledges also with such particular Letters that have passed interchangeably between us touching the vindication of you in the premises who am the Lords and yours In all humble Service In the Truth J. G. Bucklersbury the 25th of June 1652. SIR I Have twice borne your contemptuous slightings although what I moved was seasonable both for Gods glory and the present occasion And had not earnest businesse caused my long absence from London you should have heard of me before this time to have required an account concerning your great seemings to no purpose Sir As there was in times past an outward appearance that was not righteous so there is still in this present time which was as much manifested by your selfe in those Arguings where I was with you at Mr Webbs as ever heretofore by any of your Generation Now since my returne to London I have seen you have printed a Monument of your owne weaknesse which except you repent of will unavoydably redound to your great prejudice and if you will give me satisfaction in the two particulars I reproved you in well if not I shall publish not only my reproofe of those two Arguments but of every thing else you then spake of and since have printed this is the mind of him that answered your uncivill questions what he was that spake and how in profession where for habitation and his distinction for nomination who then told you he was alwayes ready to meet you at any time to discover the fallacy of your Baptisme and Church also Subscribing my Name as it is John Graunt Dwelling as abovesaid at the signe of the halfe Moon London the 9th of July 1652. Sir THe last Month I gave you to understand of your incivility towards me intimating the time and place also and because your regardlesnesse is still continued I thought good the second time to write although you denyed me to speak once and againe and to let you to know that there is not a more certaine time of sinning against God his truth and children then of suffering for wronging them For he that affirms that to be the Church of Christ that is not wrongs the Lord the Husband and his holy Spouse also And he that gives any other meaning of the Scripture then what the holy Ghost intendeth hurts and wounds the truth of Gods testimonies and his Children also Now the truth is thou art the man that hast blasphemed the Tabernacle of God and them that dwell therein affirming her to be untempered morter and fading that is true dureable everlasting And that to be the meaning of Christ Mat 16. 17. and the Apostle Rom. 10. 9 10. which was never meant nor intended by them Sir you did not consider the Scriptures when you read them if you had you might have discerned the meaning otherwise then that you have there declared and if it be possible look on the Text with a single eye and then you may perceive more then yet you have for this is a spirituall Scripture and none but spirituall eyes can discern it In the letter it runs thus upon Peters confession Thou art Christ the Son of the living God Jesus answered and said unto him Blessed art thou Simon c. For flesh and bloud hath not revealed this unto thee but my Father which is in Heaven You see the Lord pronounces him blessed because he was one that the Lord had inspired taught and instructed that it was not Peters confession as he was a naturall but as he was a spirituall man and so uttered from the Spirit of adoption as in another place the same Apostle speaking to the same purpose We beleeve and are sure that thou art that Christ the Son of the living God And as in the foregoing words he calls him Lord saying Whether shall we goe thou hast the words of Eternall life Again consider the terms he useth We beleeve and are sure this sure and stedfast Faith is that Faith which ●●y had that received him that is that loved understood and obeyed him To whom he gave the priviledge of Sonship even them that beleeve on his name And then he shewes what manner of men they are in these words Which were borne saith he not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man but of God so then this blessed confession is from a blessed man a regenerated man the Confession of a Child of the Covenant as the Apostle Paul in the

other place saith speaking in the meaning of the Lord The word is nigh thee saith he even in thy mouth and in thy heart That is or this is the word of faith which we preach the word or Covenant of Promise That is whoever by vertue of the New Covenant the Word or Statute of life the Covenant of Grace shall be born again and shall Beleeve in his heart and confesse with his mouth the Lord Jesus as before is shewed he shall be saved for such a one is the Child of salvation Now Doctour see how you have wronged these Scriptures by making the first a ground of a long discourse of Philosophy in declaring to the people how in the improvement of naturall Faculties first the Judgement is informed then the Will consenteth and accordingly the Affections are exercised I tell you the truth Doctour I was ashamed of your Doctrine and that made me speak though you returned me a scoffe And when your wisdom led you to shew us the meaning of the Apostles tearms Believing and Confessing by a Sillogisme without distinguishing the meanings that were of divers significations in the Word of God I was so bold as to tell you before all the people your Argument was fallacious and tended to deceive because the tearms were dubious and then you scorn'd and despis'd me again And according to these corrupt Expositions are all the rest of your Arguings whereof except you prevent me by your speedy repentance I shall make a publick Anatomy to the view of the World and Subscribe my Name Your Friend John Graunt SIR I Received a thing subscribed with your Name full of Basket-hilted words and quarrelsome phrases to provoke me to a challenge as I suppose about Mr Cranfords Dispute at Mr Webbs and in Justification of your uncivill behaviour there which not I but your own party rebuked The businesse concerns Mr Cranford and how you should come to interest your selfe in it I know not If Mr Cranford be pleased to resigne it to you under his hand I shall accept it If any thing else lye upon your stomach you may signifie what it is and you need not doubt of a reasonable Answer from June 30. 1652. Peter Chamberlen London th●●● of July 1652. SIR YEsterday I received a Letter from you dated June 30. 1652. which Antedated the last from me of the 3d Instant which had you seen before you had written this I suppose your mind would not have been as here is expressed for therein you might have understood no carnall quarrelling nor provocation to fleshly challenges nor vaine and uncivill expressions of basket hilted words nor any private naturall mans suppositions but a clear plain and earnest contention for the doctrine of faith once delivered to the Saints clearly discovered and not dissembled nor counterfeited minding more the spirit of faith by which Gods Servants are inabled to speak then this or that mans busines And a Child of truth that hath his right or interest therein they hear they receive they understand they beleive the voyce of their shepheard but a strangers voyce they will not they cannot they may not hear and receive and of the same nature was yours as I have signified twice before At this time I shall deal only with you I speak not of others and mind no such resignation as you speak of but a vindication of the truth of God from you withholding it in unrighteousnesse and pray for your repentance to become truths Friend truly and plainly to distinguish between Divinity and Philosophy and of terms also to preserve differing proprieties and the contrary lyes on my stomach undigested Yours John Graunt SIR THe last night late I met with a more civill Letter of yours and surely therein you shall not outdoe me Wherefore now taking all your a Reproaches of me as done out of Zeal and Conscience I can willingly passe them by and endeavour to satisfie you in whatsoever you may make a scruple as far as the Lord shall enable me In your Letter July 2d you say he that affirmeth that to bee the Church of Christ which is not wrongs the Lord c. And he that gives any other meaning of the Scripture then what the holy Ghost intendeth hurts and wounds the truth of Gods Testimony c. To both these I b assent Let us therefore see whether I be the man that have blasphemed as ye say and I shall not dare to maintain it I shall also desire you in the like candour to lay these Rules to heart and examine your selfe You say I affirm her that is True Durable and everlasting to be fading and framed with untempered morter and that to be the meaning of Christ Matthew 16. 17. and of the Apostle Rom. 10. 9 10. which was never meant nor intended by them which if I were guilty of I confesse your accusation Just Let us therefore speak of them both apart First of the first wherein we must first endeavour to bring your words to your meaning or your meaning to your words For if it c relate unto the first Rules set down it is a kind of contradiction The Rule intimating the making of a false Church to appear as a true the other the making of a true Church to be as a false But if you mean two severall things then I suppose your rule would infer an imputation on me of having maintained our Church to be the Church of Christ which you say is not so and your Church not to be the Church of Christ which neverthelesse is so For surely you mean not that ever I affirmed the Church of Christ to be fading and framed with untempered morter but rather that such Churches which were so fading and framed with untempered morter are not the Churches of Christ Now that whereby we aver our selves to be the true Church of Christ is by keeping the d pure Ordinances of Christ according to his word and if you think otherwise you should instance in any perticular On the other side we say that yours is not the true Church of Christ because you keep not the true Ordinances of Christ according to his word And we instance in Baptisme and the Lords Supper and could instance in more Now this we doe not for any Spleen or Malice for I say the same things to my best Friends but that I might provoke you and them to examine your selves exactly by the Word of God and forsake the Traditions of men As to the Scriptures mentioned Mat. 16. 17. The word it seems saith it was the Father that revealed it to Peter and not e flesh and blood which thing I brought to prove that the knowledge of Truth commeth not by Flesh and Bloud but by Revelation from God And Rom. 10. 9. 10. was no whit clouded or disparaged by the Philosophicall Discourse of f Experience as you suppose since David Psal. 19. 104. c. and Christ himselfe is