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60._o 61._o 62._o 14_o that_o the_o pope_n can_v be_v no_o competent_a judge_n and_o whereunto_o the_o father_n refer_v us._n see_v pag._n 93_o etc._n etc._n let_v i_o request_v thou_o courteous_a reader_n to_o take_v noâ—ice_n that_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n and_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n cite_v by_o i_o in_o this_o treatise_n shall_v all_o have_v be_v set_v down_o in_o a_o different_a letter_n from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o matter_n wherewith_o they_o be_v rank_v according_o as_o you_o see_v perform_v in_o the_o preface_n and_o in_o the_o late_a half_n of_o the_o book_n now_o by_o mean_n of_o my_o absence_n and_o want_v of_o direction_n give_v in_o this_o point_n it_o can_v not_o be_v discern_v by_o the_o printer_n how_o far_o the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n and_o testimony_n so_o to_o be_v distinguish_v may_v reach_v and_o therefore_o i_o can_v but_o free_v he_o from_o that_o blame_n as_o likewise_o 2._o or_o 3._o literal_a escape_n only_o except_v from_o imputation_n 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