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A84758 Dæmonium meridianum. Satan at noon. Or, Antichristian blasphemies, anti-scripturall divelismes, anti-morall uncleanness, evidenced in the light of truth, and published by the hand of justice. Being, a sincere and impartiall relation of the proceedings of the commissioners of the county of Berks. Authorized by the ordinance for ejection, against John Pordage, late minister of Bradfield, in the same county. Published for the vindication of justice, and satisfaction of the conscientious, in the name, and by the order of the said commissioners and assistants. With some notes, and animadversions upon a book of the said John Pordage, initiuled, Innocency appearing, &c. / By Christopher Fowler, minister of the gospel at S. Maries in Reding. Fowler, Christopher, 1610?-1678. 1655 (1655) Wing F1692; Thomason E840_1; ESTC R207466 137,560 179

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point of science and conscience Again who those two were the Dr names not neither will we but desiring to study and practise that text 1 Gal. 10. we would not be ambitious of any mans praise nor sollicitous for any mans censure We wish that those gentlemen and all Commissioners to whom these presents shall come sadly to consider that text which God did shoot as an arrow into the heart of poor Spira the head whereof did stick to his dying day viz. * Luke 9.26 In hunc textum defixis oculis semper intue●i convenit non est quod callida dissimulatione hic sibi quisquam placeat pietatem se fovere in corde fingens qu●m externis testificationibus prorsus evertit Whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words of him shall the Sonne of man be ashamed when he shall come in his own glory and in his Fathers and of the holy angels Obj. This man hath some followers and like enough to have more sure they believe him Ans Heresy and lust quickly find entertainment with our naturall hearts which must be wrought upon supernaturally before truth which is supernaturall and they can meet together in love So some did follow Quintinus and other Fanaticks and Calvin gives these two reasons in his dayes which we evidently discern to be the same in ours viz. Satanicall pride and beastly filthinesse * Calv. Ep. 1. pag. 44. 1. Nonnulli stultae curiositati adeo sunt addicti some so much addicted to foolish curiosity applied their minds to superfluous questions who not content with the simplicity of the scriptures did volitare velut in aere in frivolous speculations that they might vaunt themselves of high things se sublimiores esse sublimiora persequi that they were more high then others and did follow more sublime strains The second this Some that began to be seasoned with gospel purity were weary of it and did relinquish it to lead a lustfull filthy life ut effroenem sibi sumerent licentiam vitam ducerent flagitiosam and so it is now that they might take an unbridled licence to themselves and lead at least in secret a flagitious filthy life Before we conclude we would fain have the Countrey reader understand this one thing that the Swincfieldians Henry Nicholas the Familists in New England and the new Quakers do hold that the scriptures are carnall the Bible fleshly element●sh the word of God is to be rejected as a dead killing letter Some scores of places might be cited out of their writings in these words and to this purpose from hence this follows that a man is not bound to the outward command no man is bound to suffer for religion a man may bow to an idol go to Masse any thing so they reason and conclude And by the same reason a man may say and unsay swear and forswear protest and never mean lie kill steal commit adultery if he have an impulse or if it be his light let the countreyman hear what Mrs Hutchinson said in open Court that we are not bound to the law and it is no transgression against the law to commit sin and let him consider what an Enthufiast did the History is this Thomas Schucker a disciple of Rinckius the grand Anaebaptist in the midst of a great throng pretending a rapture and revelation from heaven commanded his brother Leonard Schucker to kneel down being demanded by his father and mother and many others what he meant answered he would do nothing but what was revealed to him from heaven all the people being attent the prophet with a e This was at Sengall a Town in Helvetia in the year 1527. Spanhemius drawn sword cuts off his brothers head at a blow being apprehended by the Magistrate and condemned to die he did nothing relent but professed upon the scaffold that this was the will of God and it was revealed to him from heaven Obj. But what is this to Dr Pordage he hath visions and doth converse with God Ans This Dr did write a letter to a person of honour and piety complaining against Everard that he was a witch a sorcerer and the most dangerous man in England intreating his assistance to apprehend him and within five dayes after to two persons of note denied every word saying he was no such man denied it earnestly and often nay said that Everard of whom you have heard something in these papers pag. 56. was an honest godly man after many denialls being told by them that they admired at him for they lately saw the clean contrary under his own hand in a letter to Col. Evelyn Governour of Wallingford This Dr was surprised and startled at it being not able to deny it but said he was now of another mind Col. Evelyn meeting the Dr told him what a lewd practise this was to affirm and deny at pleasure not to be endured amongst men as men for by this means he might practise any wickednesse He answered that he was in a distemper when he wrote that he was of one mind then and another now and that no man ought to persecute another for his * Witchcraft and sorcery must have liberty of conscience conscience thus adding one lie to another Observe whither will men run when once they come to fall off from the Deity and bloud of Jesus Christ whither will they go deceive affirm deny c. Of what high concernment is it to us for the present and for eternity to use all spirituall means to get and increase in the knowledge of Jesus Christ that knowledge with feeling Phil. 1.9 that savour of the knowledge of the gospel that knowing of the truth as it is in Jesus that spirit of wisdome and revelation to open the eyes of our understanding that we may know the unsearchable riches of Christ to know with all our hearts this knowledge being the spring and source of all evangelicall true and lasting holinesse especially it concerns us in this houre of temptation that is come upon the land Those called Quakers are both Antiscripturists saying the Bible was good for those times but now they are out of date and also Antichristians let no man deceive himself by their pretended mortification they do deny redemption from guilt and hell by the bloud of the Lord Christ without us and so at one blow overthrow all religion and holinesse If we had a voice as loud as the voice of the Archangel as one of the * Chrysost upon Psal 4. v. 2. O mortall men how long will ye love vanity Ancients said upon another text and all the nations for our audience there could not there cannot be a more preserving seasonable sanctifying text then that of 1 Cor. 2.2 I desire to know nothing but Jesus Christ and him crucified It was the wish of godly Mr Hildersham upon that scripture and we make it ours would to God that all the People in England were of S. Pauls
Pordage said to a professor what you have shall be ours and what we have shall be yours this was spoken since his inward sences have conversed with the Angels and the eternal world and it was spoken confidently as if he had been a Prophet but the time prefixed which was about two yeares is expired and he a false Prophet Had this Doctor vented this stuffe in his Pulpit or blurted out this riffe raffe before the Commissioners or any others else and not published it in Print to the view of all we should have buried it in silence and let it have rot we should have been more respectfull to the Government and the honour of the Nation then to have published his saucy and seditious language He saith that his Highnesse the Councell and the Nation may thanke the Commissioners for hastning the poureing the vials of Gods wrath upon the Land for their persecution Answ Thus the shakers pronounce the curse against those that oppose them in their detestable opinions what means this man to speak thus when as the clean contrary is true it is the Magistrates doing justice upon Seducers especially in fundamentals that is a Scripture way to prevent the powring forth of wrath upon the land and to preserve the people from the Plague that all Israel may hear and feare and doe no more so The higher powers have no cause to thanke him for his uncivill kindle-cole appendixe made meerly to satisfie some that they may appeale to the Powers though they and he agree in the maine viz. That the Powers notwithstanding such an appeale are Babilonish For our parts we desire to lead a quiet and peaceable life where as here in the land of our Nativity hitherto we may do so in all godlinesse and honesty 2. We blesse God and praise him for the liberty of the Gospel and we confesse we pray against a wretched universall Toleration A toleration of Idolatry infected the ten Tribes that Infection proceeded to break forth to a Botch they became Idolaters that Idolatry was the chief Sinne from whence came their Captivity which Captivity was into a strange Land where they continue to this time God did forbid them to suffer any strange Gods nay not to ask after their names nor to enquire how the Nations did worship them but they hearkned not They mingled themselves with the heathen Psal 106 35 36. And what then they learned their works What works they worshipped their Idols And what followes which became also their ruine They had many warnings and Sermons from God by the Prophet but perhaps they thought they were resolved and wise enough than ever to say to a stone thou art my Father or to worship the hoast of Heaven as many a man in England would have even spit in a mans face if he should have been told 12. years since that he would deny Sabbath nay Scripture nay Christ the Lord with an Am I Dog which yet is wofully come to pass by this meanes they were ensnared and did as the Heathen and were well nigh 2●00 yeares since carried away by a Heathen Prince into a Heathen Countrey no man knowing where they are to this day 3. We doe not envy at mens exercising in a ministeriall way so they be qualified according to the Scripture although they never smell the smoke of the University w uld all the Lords people were Prophets Yet we say 1. we are hearty we●l-wishers to those places and the learning there attainable which is exceedingly advantagious and we confesse that the spight of the Devill the subtilty of the Jesuits the barbarisme o● New lights as they are called the hard speeches of Loose ones makes us prize them both the more sure it must be some great good that is condemned by these 2. As for Ordination we believe it was instituted by Jesus Christ and never hitherto by him made null and therefore necessary where it may be had We cannot but sadly look upon and lament over the wofull effects of the Separation How hath God born witnesse against it in our sight as heretofore in Germany Into what Errors Heresies Blasphemies Loosenesse Leudnesse neglect of Duties scorning of them have thousands run A man may run and read it we call these and might name many particulars under these effects of the Separation we think they are more than Consequences Obj. What need this to what purpose do you mention it Answ The unworthy speeches of this Dr. and such like have even forced this confession from us and yet not in regard of our selves that we may stand right in the eyes of men we would live in the Testimony of our own hearts but in regard of the word of the Gospel that the lewd reports of men who make it their businesse to speak evil may not prejudice as it doth too much every where by the policy of Sathan men from hearing and through Grace entertaining the truth whereby they may be sanctified and saved Now God our Father who hath freely loved us and given us everlasting consolation through Grace and our blessed Lord Jesus who hath loved us and washed us from our Sins in his own Blood and the holy Spirit who doth reveale that Grace in the Scripture and seal it upon our hearts vouchsafe that Truth and Righteousnesse and Peace may meet and dwell in the midst of us and our children after us and grant that those who hold the Head and walk in the Light may have fellowship one with another that the glory of the Lord may dwell in the Land in our daies and the Generations that shall come after us till time shall be no more FINIS
with new tongues they shall lay hands on the sick God will bring them to glory and God the Father will deliver up to them the keyes of his everlasting Godhead To conclude This never enough accursed doctrine of a typicall Christ did spread like a gangrene in Calvins time a little after in England by Henry Nicholai born in Amsterdam an ignorant man but a crafty hypocrite and one that had a kind of deceiving violence in his smooth language of love since that in New-England by Gortyn and his disciples and then again in England very lately Mr Rutherford who is good at surveys and viewing gives a most shrewd guesse that the tokens of this soul-plague are to be seen upon the books of Mr Saltmarsh c and now at this day this plague-mark is visible to every eye and creeping about many hearts Is it not a sad thing that persons should take in such notions of Christ that do altogether destroy Christ that blaspheme his person reproach his bloud deny his purchase and that make his infinite love and grace to poor sinners to signifie just nothing in which notions a man cannot be godly while he lives and must be damned when he dies for the rise progresse growth and continuance of found godlinesse flowes from the right knowledge of Jesus Christ Do we not see these figure-makers and makers of types which God never made which never came into his heart what shadowy empty creatures they are the Socinians and Familists have nothing for the soul reall in this world their light is darknesse their sublimated notions froth their words bubbles their holinesse mere varnish their austerity Pharisaisme their fasting and prayer when they do it a device to entrap souls their publick demurenesse private loosnesse their comfort a delusion What they shall have in the next world in case of finall impenitence which the Lord of mercy forbid is reall indeed but what is it but a sence of wrath and guilt of sin even against this now blasphemed Jesus Christ a worm of conscience a lake of fire the gnawings of heart which are really so grievous that no heart can think or guesse and all this without remedy without ease even for ever and ever The eighth and ninth Articles of the first charge First That Christ was not God Secondly That Christ was not Jehovah Adde to these the fifth article of the last Charge viz. That one speaking to him of the glorious persons in Trinity he replyed persons in Trinity there is no such thing and again there is no such thing as persons in Trinity The Drs answer to these are as followeth That Christ is not God that Christ is not Jehovah I do acknowledge that such expressions were uttered by me but I hope the bare expressions of such * H●bemus confitentem It had bin far better said such horrid diabolicall blasphemies then such negations this is very improper and so mincing what Christian heart can bear it negations do not make me come within the guilt of the act for it must be known what words preceeded such expressions and what followed to say in preaching there is no God doth not make the preacher guilty of atheisme if the words going before be but annexed the fool hath said in his heart there is no God so do but joyn these words with the 15 What former you should have said with the latter this is put in as a miserable wretched shift say that such a blasphemer is an adulterer yet joyn these words with it viz. he goes a whoring after his own inventions this is not culpable former Christ is not God the Father Christ is not Jehovah Jehovah taken strictly for the person of the Father the first person of the glorious Trinity I say add but these words and there is nothing blasphemous or culpable in such expressions Though I do acknowledge that such expressions fell from me viz. that Christ is not God that Christ is not Jehovah yet I never avowed or maintained such propositions they were only uttered by way of * False they were the points disputed on dispute and that upon this occasion Mr Daniel Blagrave then being chair-man of the Committee demanded of Mr Tickhill what blasphemy was he answered an evill speaking against God the 16 Untruth so thick a man may feel it read the proof Father * Who heard you reply so neither the chairman nor your brother nor Mrs Pocock a studied untruth I replyed a lame definition of blasphemy had Mr Tickhill said evill speaking against God which is a word implying the Trinity in unity there had been no occasion given of contest for the ground of the expressions arose from the weaknesse of his definition of blasphemy in that he said blasphemy was evill speaking against God the Father to which I replyed his definition of blasphemy doth not reach to that for which he accuseth me for what he chargeth me with is not * What is this but a deliberate consulting of a whole series of untruthes blasphemy against God the Father but against Christ God the Son I have uttered no evill speaking against God the Son but seemingly to my accuser in saying that his imputative righteousnesse would prove a saplesse righteousnesse to all those that had not the fiery deity in the center of their souls burning up their lusts and corruptions Mr Tickhill then replyed to that Committee pray take notice that the Dr denyeth Christ to be God which I prove out of John the 1.1 Who can make sense of this stuffe the Dr wants a good memory read the proof To which I replyed Christ is not God the Father but God the Son Christ is Jehovah and so called the Lord our righteousnesse said Mr Tickhill to which I replyed Christ is not Jehovah if you take Jehovah for the personality of the Father this is the truth as the whole Committee of Berks then present can testify and I was then by their vote cleared of all the unworthy aspersions and dismissed and 17 Untruth the business dismissed but you were never discharged since upon proof of witnesses dismissed and that after a full hearing by the Committee of plundered Ministers I humbly conceive that if the former act did expressely adjudge and condemn evill speaking against Christ yet my delivering such expressions in an ex tempore dispute viz. that Christ was not God or Jehovah did not make me obnoxious to the guilt or penalty of that act because pag. 980 and 981 they only shall be condemned as guilty who shall avowedly professe maintain or publish in words or writing such and such execrable opinions c. Which I never did nay I professe avowedly the contrary and declare in the sincerity of my heart that the thought never entred into my soul to deny the Godhead or deity of Christ and I have avowed maintained and published by preaching that Christ is God out of John the first and twelfth The word
our own folly in being so copious upon this subject but that we cannot chuse but stand amazed at the indiscretion of many professors especially in such a day of plentifull light who doe unawares plead for and give countenance to horrid Blasphemers because they walke under the notion and shew of holinesse and pretended mortification as if we had no Bibles to informe us that Wolves devouring wolves should come in Sheeps cloathing and false Prophets should carry their matters with so much speciousnesse that they should bid faire nay and should doe it too if it were possible namely deceive the very elect the Devill is never so much a Devill as when he is white he knowes full well that he can doe nothing to any purpose for his owne Kingdome but in that colour we desire to have a raised esteem of the least dram of true holiness we say that Rubies and all that can be named or imagined are not comparable to it we say as Luther that one single gratious worke is more worth than the whole world onely it is a trouble to our Soules to see people cheated into and hardned in damnable opinions by such shewes and pretences we believe there can be no reall holinesse without the sound and right knowledge of Jesus Christ we conclude this for these dayes with that of d Adversus Francisc p. 570. Calvines in his dayes they have mortification often in their mouths but their mortification is this viz. they have no sense of good or evill Animad 11. As to the Phrase and Language used by the Doctor as for example The fiery Deity burning in the center of the Soule the Godhead mingling it selfe with our flesh the divine union the divine transportation into the glory of the Majesty p. 76. the essentiall essence of love fixation in the love of the holy Ghost divine tincturation eyes fixed upon the being of love the pure life of virginity with many more We desire the Reader to observe that this hath been the guise of Blasphemers and Familists old and new Valentinus in his * Mens in●●●●●b●lis magn●●●●e in b l●bilibus ●●nominatorum supersalestium Epiph l. 1. Tom. 2. Hae● 3● Epistle begins high with swelling unintelligible words thus The unabolishable mind to the in magnitude unabolishable of unnameable supercelestiall secrets I will make mention to you with a fardell of nonsensicall stuffe of his males and females and his triginta saecula This Blasphemer was as errant too at Allegorizing as our Doctor he proves his thirty Ages or Worlds most clearly by the Parable of the Labourers sent into the Vineyard thus Some were sent at the first houre 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 These they called wonderfull ineffable Mysteri●s some at the third some about the sixt hour others at the ninth some at the eleventh houre Now compute 1. 3 6. 9. 11. and these houres put together make thirty and this among his Sect was as cleare as the Sun to prove his triginta saecula Just as R. Higgs one of the Doctors Disciples and Witnesses when one told him he could not beleeve Abrahams family in that Text to be his Family in him viz. his will and affections Oh said Higgs to him It is cleare as the day so that Pontius Pilate must condemne Christ in us and the Jews put him to death in us all very cleare This Allegorizing and Quakerisme bids faire to drive the Scriptures out of the world the very hopes whereof will make the damned Fiends keep Holy-day in Hell when men thus abuse the Scripture and bewitch the simple It calls to our mind a saying of an Ancient Whosoever speaks the Scriptures in another sense than he that wrote it that man * Austin de Doct. Chr. lib. 1. cap. 37. speaks a lie though he speak the Scripture And againe for this frothy language of Seducers What * Idem de Doct. Chr lib. 4 c x. profit saith he is there in the sublimity of words which are not understandable by the hearers when there is no other cause of speaking if they understand not what we speak for whose sake we speak that they may understand He that teacheth should avoid all words that doe not teach Quintinistae peregrina c. the † Velut cerculatores errones ex Bohemia Cornicantur Quintinists use a strange and uncouth language with which they doe so chough it that there is no more perspicuity in their words than in the chanting of birds and this they doe a malitiously to circumvent novices ●●●●in adv 〈◊〉 cap. 7. 〈◊〉 516. for they reveale not the mysteries of their abominations which lay under the covert of their swollen language but to their own who are bound to them by Oath of Secresie under these they lay hid like theeves in a thicket their novices stand amazed at the sublimity of their words which Peter and Jude compare to bubbles and froth See more So H. Nicholas thus H. b Rutherfords Survey Antichrist cap. 9. pag. 56. Nicholai through the holy spirit of the love of Jesus raised by the highest God from the dead anointed by the holy Ghost in the old age of the holy understanding of Jesus Christ illuminated with the spirit of heavenly truth the true light of perfect being godded with God or the spirit of his love c John Knewstubb in his confutation of H. N. This form of writing is an evident note of a seducing spirit There are Quakers at Bodenham who suffer extreme tortures of body visible to the reporter and many others very often so extreme that if God did not limit the Devill their inwards would burst out trembling and quaking in their agonies as though their flesh would part from their bones and ligatures they call these d The Quakers blazing star by Edmund Skippe teacher at Bodenham pag. 22. agonies the fiery triall and they say it is the power of the Holy Ghost burning up and destroying their corruptions purifying them as gold tryed by the fire seven times They tell you how much joy and pleasure they have mixed with their torment that they could wish to be in it even for ever and ever This they call the drinking of the Cup the undergoing the wrath and curse of God as Christ did most blasphemously and say they must be brought to suffer as Christ did untill there is nothing left them but the pure seed of God Thus reckoning as far as I can determine saith he by their words that upon this account they must be e Just like the Doctor not by the saplesse righteousnesse of another but the fiery deity burning in the center of the soul justified before the Lord. This testimony is unquestionable because of an eye-witnesse and eare-witnesse Like to be seduced into this way by Sathan but delivered out of it by the Lord Christ The Quakers at Reding had the same language of Christ suffering death from the eternall Love and the holy Ghost