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A13964 The trial of trueth or a treatise vvherein is declared vvho should be iudge betvvene the Reformed Churches, and the Romish in which is shewed, that neither Pope, nor Councels, nor Fathers, nor traditions, nor succession, nor consent, nor antiquitie of custome: but the onely written worde of God, ought to determine the controuersies of religio[n]: wherin also is declared which is the true religion, and Catholick church. Written for the pleasure of the Popes, Cardinalles, prelates, abbots, monkes: and speciallie the Iesuites, which of late were driuen out of Transyluania, by the states there. Published in Latine by a certaine Hungarian, a fauourer of the trueth: and translated into English by Richard Smith.; Oratio de constituendo iudice controversiorum religionis. English. Smith, Richard, tr. 1591 (1591) STC 24274; ESTC S100745 49,352 68

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she is not bounde to holy daies and is satisfied with those daies that God hath appointed The church of Rome teacheth that the kéeping of holy daies euen without the case of offence may not be omitted without sinne and that many holie daies are to be celebrated for the praying vnto and worshipping of Saints 19. Of holie water The Gospellers beléeue that their sinnes are wiped away onely with the bloud of the Messias The Romanistes beléeue that there is not only a diuine force in their holy water but also that it worketh health briueth out deuils and preserueth all things 20. Of praier The reformed Church beléeueth that God the father with the sonne and the holy Ghost is alone to be called vpon in spirite and trueth The church of Rome saith that all angels and Saints are to be praied vnto and assigneth them seuerall offices that Saint Leonard should deliuer captiues Saint Valentine should geue health that Rome should haue Peter and Paul Hungarie Saint Marie Compostella Saint Iames for their patrones and protectors 21. Of reliques and images God commandeth that none should be worshipped and called vpon but himselfe The Pope commaundeth the worshipping of the reliques and pictures of Saints 22. Of fasting The reformed church saith that the forbidding of meats vsed vpon certaine daies is a doctrine of Deuils The church of Rome teacheth that fasting is a worke that maketh satisfaction for sinnes whereby the merite of Christ is applied vnto men 23. Of pardons The reformed church beléeueth that the bloud of Christ alone is a propitiation for our sinnes The church of Rome teacheth that men by the Popes pardons may obteine not onely for geuenes of temporall and eternall punishments but also saluation 24. Of the Popes supremacie The reformed church acknowledgeth but one head namely Jesus Christ crucified now raigning in glory But the church of Rome acknowledgeth Christ for the inuisible head and the Pope for the visible who also excelleth the Emperors as farre as the sunne doeth the moon or golde lead who is greater then Moises and Paul equall to Peter who is a God and not a man who may dispence against the foure first Councels and against the words of the Gospell c. 25. Of Spirituall assurance The reformed church beleueth that the faithful should not doubt of their saluation The church of Rome saith that they must alwais dout 26. Of Antichrist The reformed church beleueth that Antichrist is come alreadie and is he that denieth that Christ is come in the flesh or hee that iudgeth erroniouslie of the nature and office of the Messias whose seate is in the Citie situated vpon seuen hilles The church of Rome looketh for Antichrist out of Babylon of the tribe of Dan who shal raigne thrée yeares and shalbe killed in the mount O liuet 27 Of Purgatorie The Gospellers beléeue they shal passe presently from death to life euerlasting The Romanists teach that there is a fire of Purgatory so that there are fiue distinct roomes for soules to wit hell for the damned the second place for children dying vnbaptized the third Purgatorie the fourth Limbus patrum and the fifth the chiefest heauen This is the doctrin of both parties the deciding of which controuersie the See of Rome would submit to Popes counsels fathers the Church and traditions But the Gospellers refuse these iudges and alleage their reasons why they reiect each of them the which that you would patiently hears I entreate and beseech you as you will be saued good Readers whosoeuer of you in this priuat and domesticall war of disagreeing bretheren are desirous to take parte with the better cause And as for the first forte of Iudges The defendants say that they cannot admitte the Popes for iudges of this controuersie for most waightie causes for they say that they haue beene not only long since accused but also proued giltie by the greatest part of Christendome namely England Scotland Denmark Swethlande the greater parte of Germanie Heluetia Fraunce Transiluania yea and of those Churches and countryes also which in Africa Egipt Syria Greece the Easte and other coastes of the world doe recken themselues amongst the Christian Churches they haue I say by all these bene conuicted of eight most heynous crimes that is to say of impietie or prophane irreligiousnes of vsurped Tyranny of corrupting Religiō of Sacri●edge or Church-pillage of vnreuerent and vile abusing of Princelie Maiestie of Rebellion and conspiracie of Antichristianitie and of eight notorious and abominable vices in manners As for the Impietie or prophanenes of the Popes they say that they will prooue it by three reasons First in that they plainly arrogate and challenge vnto themselues a certaine Deitie or Godhead For there are expresse writings of theirs wherein it is affirmed that they are Gods that they are subiect to no man that they are the husbands of the Church that they can dispence against the Apostles and their rules that they may be against aboue without lawe that they are inuisible Gods and finally that none ought to demaund why they doe so although they dayly hurle and drawe whole heapes of soules to hell Secondly they proue the impietie of Popes by this that they haue often times made a mocke euen of their owne Religion For Gregory the seuenth brought one to this resolution by promising him mony that by letting downe a beame vpon the head of the Emperour Henrie the third while he was praying in the Church hee should crush him to peces Which while the executioner of this mischeefe made hast to doe the boord breaking vnder the beames both the stone and the Popes man fell downe The same Pope Hildebrand asking councell at the Deuils against the Emperour was not afraide to cast the Sacrament of the Lords body into y e fire the Cardinals speaking against it which thing the Bishop of Parme did openly publish Siluester the second obtained the Popedome by the magicall artes of the Deuils vpon this condition that after his death he would giue him selfe wholy to them Sixtus the fourth caused Bandinus Iulianus to be murthered by treacherous persons in the Church giuing them a watch-word by the host For that the Popes set nothing by their host is euident by this that they cause it to bee borne before them as a messenger of their comming being put vpon a hackenay and committed to a horse-grome Thirdly they say that the impietie of the Popes is declared by this also that they haue set vp aboue three score and fiue Religious orders each of which haue their seuerall fashions of hooded attires and their distinct rules and rites of Religion The number of ●riers in these orders is thought to amount to fiue hundred thousand in Europe onely which may easily be gathered by this that the Generall of the Franciscanes did often times promise the
Christ according as he hath alwaies béene worshipped of all the godlie But they say that they haue departed from that Sinagogue which hath not kept the true faith in preferring mens inuentions before the word of God which would lay intollerable burthens vpon them which would beare rule ouer their brethren which would forbidde the sincere preaching of the word and right administration of the Sacraments which vseth euery yeare to curse and banne her together with the churches of Africa Egypt Syria the East churches the churches of Asia and Gréece which persecuteth the godlie and will admitte no reformation which hath corrupted those things which were necessarie in the church enioyned those thinges to be kept of necessitie which were frée and retained those thinges which were naught and hurtfull which hath tied the Catholicke church to Rome which hath wilfullie polluted her selfe with all kinde of abhominations And therefore they protest that they haue done this of necessitie namely that they might obey the commaundement of the Lorde and that their consciences might not be defiled with their Aduersaries corrupt doctrine and that they might not become subiect to those punishments which hang ouer them But where then will they say hath the Church layen hidden so long Or if the Church of Rome were not the true and Catholicke Church must then al men be damned The Gospellers answere first that their were alwaies some both in the East Churches and also in Poperie it selfe which misliked these corruptions of the Romish Synagogue and both by liuely voyce and also by writings inueighed against them For that they may say nothing of the Auncient fathers and the whole Primitiue Church which the Gospellers affirme to agrée with them in all poyntes in the Articles of faith they proue that euen in these later ages ther● were many that subscribed to this reformation of religion For Gregory the great although he bolstered vp manye foul errours yet in this he iudged rightly that he was antichrist which would suffer himselfe to be called the Cheefe Priest and Vniuersall Bishop Eberhardus Bishop of Salisburgh proued by a most pithie Oration in a councell at Reinburgh that the Popes were Antichrists the foundation of whose Kingdome Hildebrand had laied Ioachim of Calabria also at the very same time did in like manner call the Popes Hereticks Frauncis Petrarch both in other places of his writings and especiallye in his twentith Epistle dooth with great earnestnes crye out against the Popes Arnulph Bishop of Orleance in a councell helde at Rhemes did openly pr●nounce the Popes to be Antichrists Barnard in the yéere of our Lord 1550. inueighed against the Popes as the very Antichrists In y e same age Michael Centenas likewise openlye charged the Pope to be Antichrist Ierome Souaronola of Ferraria preched throughout all Italie both that the Pope was Antichrist and that his doctrine was wicked for the which cause he was burned at Florence by Alexander the sixt Thomas Rhedon did directly condemn y ● papacie and was for the sameburnd by Eugenius the 4. Laurentius Valla almost an hundreth yéeres agoe by calling Rome Babilon the Pope Antichrist and the donation of Constantine a forgerie of the Popes did couragiously set himselfe against them and being banished for the same was very honourablye entertained by the King of Naples Iohn Wickliefe did mightilye impeache and assault the papacie in England After him followed not long after Iohn Hus and Ierome of Prage condemned to death at y e councell of Constance contrary to the Emperour Sigismundes publick warrant and there burned for the true religion vntill at length Martin Luther following them as it were wich the fatal field and last battell began more openlye and directlye both to vnfolde the trueth of religion and also to impugne the papacie The worlde would haue stopped his course by many meanes For Maximilian the Emperour at Ausburge in the yéere 1518. and Charles the fifth with Ferdinando and many other Kings and Princes first in the yéere 1521 at Woormes then in the yéere 1523. at Norimberge afterwardes in the yeere 1524. at Ratisbone and in the yéere 1529 at Spire moreouer in the yéere 1530. at Ausburgh againe in the yeere 1532. at Ratisbone and in the yéere 1540. at Hagano partly themselues heard the defence of Luther with his owne mouth and partlye caused his doctrine to be examined by their assignes But when they perceiued that they nothing preuailed by banishment imprisonment burning and all kinde of torments at length they were forced to hearken to the aduice of Gamaliel who counselled the Iewes to let the Apostles alone For i● this enterprice or busines were of men it would come to passe that it should shortly be brought to nought but if it were of God it could not be that it should be ouerthrowen Let all men therefore thinke the same of the religion of the Reformed church And in the meane while O ye kings and princes and inhabitants of the whole worlde which are desirous of euerlasting life rouse vp your selues deals wisely serue the Lord in feare and reioyce in trembling kisse the sonne least he be angrie and ye perish in the way when his wrath shalbe but a litle kindled blessed are all those that trust in him The Conclusion THese were the things good Readers that loue your saluation which I thought good to write at this present concerning the appointing of a Iudge for the controuersies of religion and the finding out of the trueth of the right religion and Catholicke Church Wherin because I take it that I haue said nothing which I cannot make good by manifest proofes either of the holy Scriptures or Catholick Fathers or els euen of those authours themselues whose testimonies I haue truely alleadged Surely it is méete and right that all those that loue the trueth shoulde be stirred vp to séeke out the way of eternall life and without partiall iudgement to know the trueth of religion and of the church without the which saluation is not to be had And now that which remaineth let vs with all our hearts beséech our onely master the Lord Iesus Christ that wee may be taught many things more which wee knowe not by him from whom we haue receiued these things which we doe know let vs pray him that of his mercie preuenting vs and furthering vs he would teach vs those thinges which being to be knowen for our comfort wee are not ignorant of kéepe vs in those things which we knowe to be true strengthen vs in those things wherein we stagger being true and deliuer vs from those things which are false that so in our thoughts and words he may finde that which he doeth profitably geue vs and may cause those things to procéed from vs which may be acceptable to God and profitable to men Amen FINIS A Catologue of the authours whose Testimonies besides the Canonicall scriptures are alleaged and quoted
bread and wine in the Sacrament doth so remaine and not ceasse as there remaineth in Christ the Lord the nature of man ioyned to the diuine nature Augustine saith that it is rashnesse without plaine and manifest testimonies of the Scriptures to determine on either side matters of Rellgion that are doubtfull Calixtus deliuered the Sacrament to the whole church kept backe notorious wicked persons from it and condemned those which being present did not communicate Cyprian saith that the Christian people were not to be denyed the bloud of their Lord for the confessing of whom they were commaunded to shed their owne bloud Apollo amongest other herestes obrayded Montanus with this that he was the first that had prescribed the people lawes of fasting Paphnutius denied that y e Ministers of the church were to be forbidden mariage And auouched that the mutuall performance of mariage dueties betwéene man and wife was chastitie Cyprian sayd that onely Christ was to bee heard of whom it was said heare him and that it was not to be reregarded what others before vs haue either saide or doone but what Christ who was before all hath commaunded Augustine stoutly maintaineth that the Church ought not to prefer her selfe before Christ because he alwaies iudgeth truely but the Iudges of the Church as being men are oftentimes mistaken Ambrose saide that holy things néeded not golde neither were those things acceptable by meanes of gold which wree not bought with golde Acatius said that our God did neither eat nor drink and that therfore he néeded not cuppes or bowles Spiridion saide that he did therefore fréelye eate fleshe on that day wherin others did abstaine because he was a Christian Augustine saide that it was not lawfull for Monkes to liue at other mens cost although they were dayly occupied in meditations praiers and studies Epiphanius said that it was a horrible abhomination to sée the Image either of Christ or any other painted in the Churches of Christians These and other such bounds of the auncient Fathers sith the Sée of Rome her selfe hath ouer●strided by what right she maye enioyne others to keepe that which she her selfe neglecteth to doo all men may easily iudge Sith therfore neither the Popes neither the councels nor the Fathers can end this dissention is there any at last I pray you vnto whose iudgement we must stand Are they Traditions that must strike the stroke Why by the name of Traditions they must either vnderstand ceremonies or doctrines and as for ceremonies although they be auntient yet if they be either hurtfull or néedlesse and superfluous or repugnant to the woord of God or haue been abrogated at a certain time they are not to be suffered For the Lord giueth expresse commaundement that men woorship him not with doctrines deuised by mens braines and as for the traditions that are doctrinall they must either containe in them the written word of God it selfe Créedes and expositions gathered by necessary collection out of the foundations of the scriptures against Heretickes or else those things which either directly or indirectly are either put to or taken from the word of God If you meane the former who will not receyue such traditions If the later who may not without any breach of Godlines reiect them And how much Traditions doe auaile to appease and ceasse the contentions of the Church olde Stories doe plainly shew For when as in the most auncient times there arose a sturre in the Church concerning the feast of Easter with so great a doo that the whole world was shaken therewith both sides had recourse to the traditions of the Apostles which are not expressed in any certain Booke But when each side alleadged that they kepte the feaste of Easter on that time which was appointed by tradition of the Apostles the matter grew to this passe in the end that there was a flat fréedome for the Church in all such manner of matters vntill tiranny preuailed Loe what force traditions haue to determine the controuersies of Religion Will miracles then make manifest which is the better cause or the Catholick church Why the vse of miracles is now ceased For there is not now any new Eospell or new doctrine broached but that which Christ and the Apostles haue already confirmed with miracles and wonders Againe we doe not reade that all those that restored and as it were reformed Religion were famous for their myracles In the which number Iohn Baptist Asaph Ethan Iedithun Heman Core and other Prophets are to be reckonned Moreouer except the gift of miracles be lefte to the wise disposition of God they cannot confirme any doctrine For it is manifest that the miracles of Christ which otherwise were full of power did either nothing at all or very litle further the obstinate Iewes to faith and Godly nesse Finally how could miracles be necessarie signes of true Religion of themselues when as it is manifest that Antichrist and false Prophets shall excell with many miracles wherefore those miracle-mongers ought themselues to be taken for miracles and wounders who when the date and vse of miracles is past doe yet require miracles although the true doctrine is not euen at this day altogether destitude of great miracles What then can the perpetuall and continuall succession of the Bishops of Rome serue to discerne betwéene true and false Religion Surely no man will deny that there is one succession of true doctrine and another of persons wherefore if the succession of Persons be ioyned with the succession of the Prophets and Apostles doctrine it is manifest doublesse that the weight thereof is not small For in this sense the Fathers did alleage succession against the Hereticks For he that professeth the same doctrine saith Nezianzen is partaker of the same chaire also but hee that holdeth a contrarie doctrine ought not to bee counted a Successour and truely this later hath the name in déede but that former hath the trueth of succession Except perhaps a man call it succession in that sence that we say sicknesse succéedeth health light darknesse a storme fayre weather madnesse reason dregges wine and in a word Nero Augustus or Cambyses Cyrus Sith therfore the succession of the Prophets and Apostles doctrine was broken off long agoe in the popish Church surely the ordinarie continuance of Pope after Pope is of no force to shew which is the true religion But it may be they will demaund of the Gospellers the time and person wherein the succession of doctrine was altered Unto this the Gospellers answere that the Popes of Rome are to be distinguished into thrée especiall rankes or companies For they deny not that from Linus to Milchiades there were one and thirtie true Pastours of them in number who laboured in the Lords haruest euen vnto martirdome and therefore may well be called Starres in the right hand of