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A13091 The second part of the anatomie of abuses conteining the display of corruptions, with a perfect description of such imperfections, blemishes and abuses, as now reigning in euerie degree, require reformation for feare of Gods vengeance to be powred vpon the people and countrie, without speedie repentance, and conuersion vnto God: made dialogwise by Phillip Stubbes.; Anatomie of abuses. Part 2 Stubbes, Phillip. 1583 (1583) STC 23380; ESTC S112627 103,282 240

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preaching of Christ Iesus truelie that his kingdome might dailie bee increased their consciences discharged and the Church edefied which Christe Iesus hath bought with the shedding of his precious hart bloud Theod. Maie a pastor or a Minister of the Gospell forsake his flocke and refuse his charge for the wearing of a surplesse a cappe tippet or the like as manie hane done of late daies who being inforced to weare these garmentes haue giuen vp their liuings and forsaken all Amphil. Those that for the wearing of these garments being but the inuentions the traditions the rites the ceremonies the ordinances constitutions of man will leaue their flocks and giue ouer their charges not caring what become of the same doe shew themselues to be no true shepheards but such as Christ speaketh of that when they sée the Wolfe comming will flie away leauing their flocke to the slaughter of the gréedie wolfe They giue euident demonstration also that they are not such as the holie Ghost hath made ouerseers ouer their flocke but rather such as being possessed with the spirite of pride and ambition haue intruded them selues to the destruction of their flocke If they were such good shepheards as they ought to be and so louing to their flocke they would rather giue their life for their shéepe if néede required than to runne from them leauing them to the bloodie téeth of the mercilesse wolues Is hee a good shepheard that watcheth dailie vppon his flocke or hee that runnes from them for euerie light trifle I thinke we would count him a verie negligent shepheard And shall wee thinke him a diligent or a good pastor and one that would giue his life for his shéepe as a good pastor should doe that for such trifles wil estrang himselfe from his flocke for euer Therefore I beséech God to giue them grace to looke to their charges and to let the other trifles alone being no part of our saluation or damnation Theod. But they saie they refuse the wearing of these garments because they are offensiue to the godlie a scandall to the weake brethren a hinderaunce to manie in comming to the Gospel an induration to the papists hardning their hearts in hope that their trumperie will once come in again to their singular comfort Amphil. It is an old saying Better a bad excuse than none at all And truly it séemeth they are driuen to the wall and sore graueled that will flie to these simple shifts But whatsoeuer they say or affirme certain it is that offensiue to the godly they cannot be who haue already learned to distinguish betwixt the things abused and the abuses themselues And who know also how to vse things mere indifferent to good ends and purposes And therfore this question thus I shut vp in few words that the wearing of these garmentes béeing commaunded by a Christian Prince is not offensiue or scandalous to anie good Christians and to the other it mattereth not what it be For they are such as the Lorde hath cast off into a reprobate sence and preiudicate opinion abusing all things euen the truth it selfe to their owne destruction for euer excepte they repent which I praye God they maye doe if it bee his blessed will Theodo I pray you why doe they weare white in their surplesses rather than any other colour and why a forked cappe rather than a rounde one for the Papistes if they were the authors of these garmentes haue their misteries their figures their representations in all things Wherfore I desire to know your iudgment herein Amphil. You say the truth for the Papistes haue their misteries in all thinges after their maner Therfore thus they say that white doth signify holines innocency al kind of integrity putting them in mind what they ought to be in this life and representeth vnto them the beatitude the felicitie and happines of the life to come And thys they prooue ab exemplis apparitionum from the example of apparitiōs and visions in that aungels and celestial creatures haue euer appeared in the same colour of white Therefore forsooth they must weare white apparell The cornered cappe say these misterious fellows doth signifie and represent the whole monarchy of the world East West North South the gouernment whereof standeth vpon them as the cappe doth vppon their heades The gowne saye they doth signifie the plenary power which they haue to doe all things And therefore none but the Pope or hée with whome hee dispenceth maie weare the same euerie where bicause none haue plenariam potestatem plenarie power in euerie place but Beelzebub the Pope Yet the Ministers saith he maie weare them in their Churches in their owne iurisdictions ' because therein they haue full power from him Thus foolishlie do they deceiue themselues with vaine shewes shadows and imaginations forged in the mint of their owne braines to the destruction of manie But who is he that because these sottishe Papistes haue and doe gréeuouslie abuse these thinges will therefore haue them cleane remoued If all thinges that haue beene abused should be remooued because of the abuse than should we haue nothing left to the supply of our necessities neither meat drinke nor cloth for our bodies neyther yet which is more y e word of God the spirituall food of our soules nor any thing els almost For what thing is there in y e whole vniuersall world that eyther by one Hereticke or other hath not béene abused Let vs therfore take the abuses away and the things maie well remaine still For may not we christians vse these thinges which the wicked Papists haue abused to good ends vses and purposes I see no reason to the contrarie And therefore in conclusion I beséech the Lorde that wee may all agrée togither in one truth and not to deuide our selues one from another for tris●es making schismes ruptures breaches and factions in the church of God where we ought to nourish peace vnitie concord brotherly loue amitie and frendship one amongst an other And seeing we do all agree togither and iump in one truth hauing al one God our father one Lord Iesus Christ our sauiour one holy spirit of adoption one price of redemption one faith one hope one baptisme and one and the same inheritance in the kingdome of heauen Let vs therefore agree togither in these externall shadowes ceremonies and rites For is it not a shame to agree about the marow and to striue about the bone to contend about the karnell to vary about the shell to agree in the truth and to brabble for the shadow Let vs consider that this contention of ours among our selues doth hinder the course of the Gospell from taking such deepe roote in the heartes of the hearers as otherwise it would doe And thus for this time brother Theodorus we will breake off our talke concerning this matter vntill yt please God that we may meete againe Which if it please God we doe I promise you in an other woorke to discourse of the same more at large In the mean time let vs giue our selues to fasiing and prayer most humbly beséeching his excellēt maiesty to blesse our noble Quéen and to kéepe hir grace as the apple of his eie frō all hir foes to maintaine his word and gospell amongst vs to plant vnity and concord within our walles to increase our faith to graunt vs true and vnfained repentaunce for our sins and in the end eternall life in the kingdome of heauen thorow y e precious death passion blood-shedding and obedience of Christe Iesus our Lord and onely sauiour to whom with the father and the holy ghost one true and immortal God be al honor praise power empire and dominion throughout all congregations for euermore And thus brother Theodorus I bid you farewell in the Lord till I do sée you againe Theodo And I you also good brother Amphilogus beséeching the Lord that if we méete not vpon earth we maye meete yet in the kingdome of heauen there to rest in perfect felicitie for euer Amphil. The Lord grant it for his mercies sake Amen FINIS LONDON Printed by Roger Ward for William Wright and are to be solde at his shop ioyning to Saint Mildreds Church in the Poultry being the middle shop in the row 1583.