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sure_o believe_v although_o we_o have_v purgatorye_n and_o hell_n to_o among_o us._n and_o this_o may_v well_o be_v gather_v of_o christ_n own_fw-mi word_n luce_n xuj_o 16._o where_o he_o bring_v in_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o rich_a man_n and_o lazarus_fw-la for_o the_o rich_a man_n be_v in_o pain_n desire_v abraham_n to_o send_v lazarus_fw-la unto_o his_o fyve_o brothren_n to_o warn_v they_o that_o they_o may_v not_o come_v in_o to_o that_o fire_n abraham_n answer_v again_o y_fw-es t_o they_o have_v moses_n &_o the_o prophet_n and_o add_v let_v they_o hear_v they_o then_o say_v y_z â—_o tych_a man_n nay_o father_n abraham_n but_o if_o any_o of_o they_o y_fw-mi â—_o be_v de_fw-mi part_v appear_v unto_o they_o them_z will_v they_o believe_v it_o and_o abraham_n conclude_v on_o this_o manner_n if_o they_o believe_v not_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n no_o more_o will_v they_o believe_v if_o any_o of_o the_o deed_n shall_v rise_v again_o and_o therefore_o may_v i_o like_o wise_n 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he_o sick_a of_o y_fw-fr â—_o palsaye_v to_o who_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d be_v of_o good_a comfort_n son_n thy_o sin_n be_v forgeven_a y_o â—_o mat._n ix_o mar._n two_o luc._n v._n what_o cause_n foun_fw-fr de_fw-fr he_o in_o the_o thief_n that_o be_v crucy_a fy_v with_o he_o but_z y_fw-es â—_o he_o have_v be_v anunthrifte_n all_o his_o life_n long_o and_o yet_o even_o the_o same_o day_n that_o he_o suffer_v with_o christ_n be_v he_o partetaker_n of_o joy_n with_o he_o in_o paradyse_n lu._n xxiii_o where_o be_v purgatory_n they_o 〈◊〉_d where_o be_v the_o punishment_n that_o he_o shall_v have_v suffer_v for_o his_o enormytye_n if_o any_o man_n shall_v suffer_v in_o purgatorye_n it_o be_v like_o y_z t_z this_o these_o shall_v have_v do_v it_o but_o he_o go_v from_o death_n to_o lief_o 〈◊〉_d come_v in_o purgatorye_n wherefore_o i_o may_v 〈◊〉_d y_fw-es â—_o no_o man_n shall_v come_v there_o if_z there_o be_v any_o what_o cause_n i_o pray_v you_o do_v paul_n assign_v as_o touchinge_v out_o 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second_o lie_n be_v this_o he_z say_v you_o to_o god_n rastell_n of_o his_o justice_n must_v geve_v to_o everye_a thing_n his_o awe_n ne_o which_z own_fw-mi be_v the_o thing_n that_o it_o deserve_v to_o have_v if_o this_o be_v true_a then_o shall_v not_o one_o of_o 〈◊〉_d we_o entre_fw-fr the_fw-fr inheritance_n of_o heaven_n for_z we_o have_v 〈◊〉_d everye_o one_o of_o we_o deserve_a death_n and_o dampnatyon_n for_o as_o paul_n say_v romanorum_fw-la iii._n we_o have_v 〈◊〉_d sin_v and_o want_v the_o glory_n which_o before_o god_n be_v allow_v but_o we_o be_v frelye_o iustefy_v through_o his_o grace_n by_o the_o faith_n that_o be_v in_o thirst_n jesu._n if_o it_o be_v frelye_o through_o his_o grace_n them_z be_v it_o not_o 〈◊〉_d our_o own_o deservinge_v for_o then_o grace_n be_v no_o grace_n and_o contrary_a wise_n if_o it_o be_v by_o our_o own_fw-mi deservinge_v then_o be_v it_o not_o of_o grace_n for_z then_o deseruinge_v be_v not_o deservinge_v romanorum_fw-la 11_o xi_o but_o the_o truth_n be_v this_o that_z god_a of_o his_o mercy_n have_v promise_v unto_o our_o forefather_n his_o dear_a son_n christ_n that_o he_o shall_v deliver_v they_o from_o all_o their_o iniquity_n and_o that_o all_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o world_n shall_v be_v bless_v in_o he_o gen_n twelve_o this_o seed_n he_o promise_v of_o his_o mercy_n and_o fa_fw-it 12_o four_fw-mi who_o also_o he_o send_v in_o the_o time_n that_o he_o 4_o have_v orden_v galata_n 4._o not_o for_o our_o own_fw-mi deservinge_n but_z for_o his_o truth_n sake_n and_o to_o fulfil_v y_fw-mi â—_o he_o have_v promise_v this_o christ_n be_v become_v our_o 1_o right_a wysnes_n 1._o corin._n 1._o so_o that_o y_fw-fr t_o justice_n of_o god_n be_v not_o to_o geve_v we_o that_o we_o
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