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A66964 A discourse of the necessity of church-guides, for directing Christians in necessary faith with some annotations on Dr Stillingfleet's answer to N.O. / by R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1675 (1675) Wing W3446; ESTC R38733 248,311 278

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discuss_v in_o the_o ancient_a so_o may_v and_o have_v some_o other_o in_o latter_a time_n and_o since_o there_o be_v controversy_n also_o not_o unfrequent_o concern_v what_o have_v be_v the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o father_n in_o particular_a point_n or_o the_o result_v of_o lawful_a ancient_a council_n there_o will_v yet_o be_v want_v a_o present_a judge_n for_o determine_v these_o and_o since_o the_o church_n of_o all_o time_n former_a or_o latter_a have_v equal_a authority_n any_o present_a modern_a determination_n seem_v as_o authentic_a and_o oblige_a as_o the_o ancient_n §_o 9_o 4._o that_o since_o the_o scripture_n be_v affirm_v clear_a in_o necessary_n only_a upon_o the_o condition_n of_o a_o sincere_a endeavour_n one_o not_o assure_v first_o of_o this_o sincere_a endeavour_n yet_o of_o which_o there_o seem_v no_o certain_a mean_n can_v be_v secure_a of_o his_o not_o err_v in_o necessary_n for_o exampple_n the_o socinian_n and_o this_o especial_o when_o a_o major_a part_n of_o christianity_n understand_v the_o sense_n of_o such_o scripture_n against_o he_o and_o the_o same_o uncertainty_n hold_v of_o one_o have_v sufficient_o use_v other_o help_n if_o these_o also_o be_v require_v §_o 11._o or_o if_o here_o such_o a_o low_a degree_n of_o endeavour_n be_v affirm_v only_o necessary_a and_o require_v as_o suit_n with_o christian_n of_o the_o mean_a employment_n and_o capacity_n that_o such_o endeavour_n seem_v not_o sufficient_a for_o understand_v all_o necessary_a point_n or_o if_o it_o be_v that_o by_o such_o a_o endeavour_n the_o church-governor_n may_v as_o well_o be_v presume_v not_o to_o err_v in_o point_n necessary_a and_o so_o the_o other_o people_n way_n safe_o acquiesce_v in_o their_o judgement_n §_o 12._o chap._n ii_o concern_v a_o necessity_n of_o church-guide_n for_o instruct_v of_o christian_n in_o point_n necessary_a that_o the_o clearness_n of_o scripture_n in_o all_o necessary_n upon_o a_o right_a endeavour_n to_o understand_v they_o if_o 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§_o 14._o chap._n iii_o concern_v obedience_n and_o submission_n of_o judgement_n due_a from_o the_o church_n subject_n to_o their_o governor_n in_o divine_a matter_n and_o in_o these_o the_o more_o the_o more_o they_o be_v necessary_a 1._o that_o the_o church_n subject_n have_v a_o obligation_n of_o obedience_n and_o submission_n of_o judgement_n to_o their_o ecclesiastical_a superior_n and_o this_o as_o to_o point_n necessary_a §_o 19_o prove_v by_o scripture_n where_o the_o text_n deut._n 17.8_o and_o 2._o chron._n 19.6_o be_v vindicate_v form_n dr_n st_n exception_n §_o 22._o and_o his_o other_o objection_n of_o the_o err_a of_o the_o high_a ecclesiastical_a court_n under_o moses_n law_n in_o ration_n account_n p._n 241._o answer_v §_o 25._o 2._o that_o such_o obedience_n and_o submission_n of_o judgement_n if_o grant_v due_a to_o these_o governor_n be_v in_o any_o division_n of_o they_o to_o be_v yield_v to_o the_o superior_a person_n or_o council_n §_o 26._o where_o dr_n st_n 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all_o such_o person_n as_o have_v no_o demonstrable_a certainty_n that_o it_o command_v they_o any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o god_n word_n §_o 35._o 4._o that_o set_v aside_o any_o duty_n of_o obedience_n the_o plebeian_n and_o unlearned_a aught_o for_o the_o understanding_n of_o scripture_n to_o acquiesce_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o those_o more_o skilful_a and_o study_v in_o they_o without_o distinguish_v those_o necessary_n wherein_n be_v suppose_v any_o difference_n in_o man_n judgement_n §_o 37._o and_o that_o what_o be_v to_o they_o use_v a_o due_a industry_n clear_a in_o scripture_n may_v be_v presume_v will_v be_v so_o to_o their_o guide_n ibid._n where_o the_o answer_n that_o christian_n can_v be_v secure_a that_o their_o guide_n though_o they_o do_v not_o mistake_v in_o necessary_a matter_n of_o faith_n yet_o do_v not_o mis-teach_a other_o in_o they_o and_o the_o transfer_v infallibility_n thus_o from_o the_o usual_a notion_n of_o these_o guide_v their_o not_o err_v or_o 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§_o 51._o *_o from_o the_o promise_n in_o scripture_n §_o 52._o where_o that_o dr_n st._n hold_v the_o roman_a church_n hitherto_o never_o to_o have_v err_v in_o necessary_n §_o 53._o *_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n austin_n in_o his_o proceed_n against_o the_o donatist_n §_o 54._o and_o of_o the_o greek_a church_n §_o 56._o *_o from_o archbishop_z lawed_n and_o sometime_o dr_n st_n hold_v the_o catholic_n church_n not_o only_o in_o its_o be_v but_o as_o to_o its_o teach_v and_o determination_n infallible_a §_o 57_o dr_n st_n reply_v consider_v *_o concern_v the_o practice_n of_o council_n §_o 64._o etc._n etc._n *_o concern_v the_o certainty_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n without_o infallible_a church-governor_n §_o 63._o *_o concern_v s._n austin_n §_o 71._o *_o that_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o evidence_n of_o our_o sense_n urge_v by_o dr_n st._n and_o other_o disprove_v not_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o roman-catholick_n church_n chap._n v._n no_o supress_v of_o sect_n and_o heresy_n without_o admit_v a_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n that_o all_o sect_n for_o their_o tenant_n equal_o appeal_v to_o the_o clearness_n of_o the_o scripture_n §_o 81._o that_o the_o leave_v all_o man_n for_o know_v necessary_n to_o the_o clearness_n of_o scripture_n therein_o without_o require_v their_o submission_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n can_v afford_v no_o effectual_a remedy_n of_o heresy_n and_o schism_n §_o 83._o that_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n seem_v contrary_a to_o this_o and_o to_o require_v submission_n of_o judgement_n §_o 84._o dr_n st_n reply_v contend_v that_o his_o principle_n no_o way_n justify_v sect_n consider_v §_o 86._o viz_o *_o that_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n between_o the_o church_n of_o england_n separation_n from_o rome_n and_o that_o of_o the_o sect_n from_o she_o §_o 87._o *_o that_o no_o infallibility_n be_v challenge_v by_o she_o in_o respect_n of_o her_o subject_n as_o be_v by_o rome_n §_o 89._o *_o that_o her_o doctrine_n be_v not_o make_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n nor_o any_o exclude_v from_o it_o mere_o because_o not_o be_v in_o her_o communion_n §_o 90._o nor_o any_o immediate_a authority_n challenge_v by_o she_o of_o oblige_v the_o conscience_n of_o men._n §_o 91._o where_o that_o though_o none_o of_o these_o thing_n can_v be_v charge_v on_o she_o by_o the_o sect_n that_o have_v leave_v she_o as_o they_o be_v by_o she_o on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n leave_v by_o she_o yet_o still_o by_o her_o example_n as_o also_o by_o these_o tenant_n of_o she_o the_o sect_n though_o agree_v with_o she_o in_o these_o may_v think_v themselves_o at_o liberty_n to_o depart_v from_o she_o for_o other_o thing_n wherein_o to_o they_o she_o seem_v faulty_a or_o defective_a as_o she_o for_o this_o cause_n do_v depart_v from_o her_o superior_n he_o reply_v contend_v that_o his_o principle_n afford_v a_o just_a and_o sufficient_a mean_n of_o remedy_v sect_n consider_v §_o 93._o where_o that_o the_o recommend_v of_o humility_n obedience_n and_o a_o due_a submission_n to_o our_o spiritual_a pastor_n and_o the_o not_o usurp_v of_o their_o office_n &c_n &c_n understand_v exclusive_o to_o submission_n of_o private_a man_n judgement_n to_o they_o and_o to_o restraint_n of_o liberty_n of_o opinion_n or_o of_o contradiction_n as_o to_o any_o of_o the_o church_n definition_n and_o doctrine_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v no_o sufficient_a mean_n of_o suppress_v heresy_n and_o sect_n yet_o that_o if_o protestant_n will_v only_o admit_v this_o latter_a of_o not_o contradict_v there_o can_v have_v be_v or_o can_v be_v no_o reformation_n at_o any_o time_n against_o any_o such_o doctrine_n of_o the_o former_a church_n §_o 94._o and_o that_o the_o church_n authority_n of_o make_v rule_n and_o canon_n of_o reform_v any_o abuse_n in_o practice_n or_o error_n in_o doctrine_n of_o inflict_a censure_n upon_o offender_n of_o receive_v into_o and_o exclude_v out_o of_o the_o church_n such_o person_n which_o according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o a_o christian_a society_n be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o or_o shut_v out_o etc._n etc._n if_o not_o extend_v to_o exclude_v dissenter_n from_o her_o doctrine_n and_o definition_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v still_o deficient_a as_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n §_o 100_o etc._n etc._n concern_v the_o consent_n say_v to_o be_v require_v from_o all_o her_o clergy_n by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o her_o article_n of_o religion_n §_o 104._o mr_n chillingworths_n proposal_n in_o this_o matter_n for_o procure_v a_o general_a unity_n in_o communion_n and_o peace_n in_o the_o church_n consider_v §_o 96._o the_o vanity_n and_o uneffectiveness_n of_o it_o as_o to_o the_o end_v aim_v at_o §_o 97._o a_o table_n of_o the_o principal_a content_n of_o the_o annotation_n that_o tradition_n qualify_v with_o the_o other_o motive_n be_v a_o sufficient_o certain_a evidence_n of_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n as_o divine_o assist_v or_o of_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n or_o of_o any_o other_o divine_a revelation_n testify_v by_o it_o to_o be_v such_o p._n 85_o 94_o 97._o that_o either_o infallibility_n of_o the_o church_n or_o of_o scripture_n may_v be_v the_o first_o thing_n believe_v from_o tradition_n and_o either_o of_o these_o prove_v from_o the_o other_o as_o either_o be_v first_o know_v p._n 123_o 133_o 169._o the_o expression_n of_o a_o moral_a infallibility_n vindicate_v p._n 94._o and_o that_o as_o moral_a infallibility_n be_v apply_v to_o tradition_n so_o not_o to_o church-infallibility_a as_o divine_o assist_v ib._n that_o a_o assent_n build_v only_o on_o a_o morally-infallible_a evidence_n never_o come_v to_o be_v more_o than_o moral_o infallible_a or_o that_o a_o assent_n never_o rise_v high_a than_o the_o evidence_n p._n 96._o the_o several_a way_n how_o in_o a_o divine_a faith_n a_o infallible_a assent_n be_v say_v to_o be_v yield_v to_o divine_a revelation_n p._n 87._o on_o what_o account_n church-infallibility_a necessary_a notwithstanding_o the_o certainty_n and_o self-evidence_n of_o tradition_n and_o that_o christian_n without_o this_o church-infallibility_a be_v no_o way_n certain_a or_o secure_v as_o to_o several_a necessary_a point_n of_o their_o faith_n because_o not_o so_o clear_o deliver_v or_o manifest_v as_o to_o all_o person_n by_o tradition_n p._n 89_o 93_o 97_o 98_o 125._o that_o all_o necessary_a point_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o clear_a in_o scripture_n to_o all_o capacity_n without_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o guide_n p._n 98._o 170._o the_o text_n 2_o pet._n 3.16_o consider_v p._n 173._o the_o testimony_n *_o of_o s._n austin_n de_fw-fr doctrina_fw-la christiana_n l._n 2._o c._n 9_o p._n 195._o and_o *_o of_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o 2_o thess_n hom._n 3._o concern_v clearness_n of_o scripture_n consider_v p._n 233._o that_o several_a other_o mean_n of_o understand_a scripture_n void_a not_o the_o direction_n and_o decision_n herein_o of_o church-guide_n where_o either_o the_o other_o mean_n can_v be_v use_v by_o secular_a person_n of_o manual_a employment_n or_o use_v leave_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n still_o ambiguous_a to_o mean_a capacity_n and_o that_o the_o more_o certain_a such_o other_o mean_n be_v the_o more_o they_o assure_v we_o of_o the_o church-guide_n their_o not_o err_v herein_o p._n 179._o that_o the_o canon_n of_o council_n do_v clearly_o decide_v some_o necessary_a point_n controvert_v than_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n and_o so_o effect_v a_o great_a union_n of_o doctrine_n in_o a_o society_n submit_v to_o they_o than_o be_v among_o those_o submit_v only_o to_o scripture_n p._n 133._o that_o positive_a law_n beside_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n be_v from_o the_o beginning_n in_o god_n church_n and_o the_o church-guide_n then_o as_o to_o necessary_n infallible_a p._n 91_o 124._o that_o under_o moses_n law_n the_o people_n be_v enjoin_v submission_n of_o judgement_n to_o the_o decision_n of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n p._n 113._o that_o from_o private_a man_n when_o use_v a_o right_a endeavour_n the_o argument_n hold_v to_o the_o church-guide_n if_o use_v the_o like_a their_o not_o err_v or_o be_v deceive_v in_o necessary_n but_o be_v not_o extend_v so_o far_o as_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v infallible_a in_o another_o sense_n also_o viz_o so_o as_o that_o they_o can_v deceive_v other_o in_o mis-teaching_a they_o in_o necessary_n p._n 136._o that_o the_o exercise_n of_o private_a man_n judgement_n in_o all_o thing_n be_v allow_v but_o its_o err_a or_o the_o non-submittance_a of_o it_o to_o another_o where_o due_a not_o therefore_o excuse_v and_o that_o the_o charge_v christian_n to_o beware_v of_o false_a prophet_n seducer_n false_a guide_n etc._n etc._n still_o fix_v they_o more_o close_o to_o the_o true_a p._n 138._o that_o person_n consult_v their_o guide_n concern_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o rule_n
in_o the_o dr_n answer_n §_o 71_o last_o to_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o church_n infallibility_n out_o of_o s._n austin_n mention_v before_o §_o 54._o he_o return_v a_o answer_n extend_v from_o p._n 250._o to_o p._n 200._o where_o i_o find_v he_o p._n 251._o urge_v s._n augustine_n word_n that_o in_o this_o matter_n we_o follow_v etc._n etc._n sequimur_fw-la sanè_fw-la nos_fw-la in_o hâc_fw-la re_fw-mi i._n e_fw-la in_o non-rebaptization_a etiam_fw-la canonicarum_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la certissimam_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la and_o there_o before_o that_o man_n may_v attain_v a_o certainty_n of_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n in_o this_o matter_n without_o the_o church_n infallibility_n to_o decide_v it_o thus_o the_o dr._n but_o this_o father_n every_o where_o confess_v the_o difference_n about_o rebaptisation_n to_o be_v a_o most_o difficult_a and_o obscure_a question_n and_o not_o clear_o resolve_v as_o to_o all_o apprehension_n in_o the_o scripture_n speak_v this_o sequimur_fw-la sanê_fw-la nos_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la re_fw-la etc._n etc._n quite_o in_o another_o sense_n namely_o as_o he_o himself_o expound_v it_o in_o the_o next_o word_n when_o the_o donatist_n urge_v to_o he_o there_o be_v no_o proof_n or_o example_n thereof_o in_o scripture_n neque_fw-la enim_fw-la say_v he_o parvi_fw-la momenti_fw-la habendum_fw-la est_fw-la quòd_fw-la hoc_fw-la per_fw-la universam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la quae_fw-la toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la diffunditur_fw-la observari_fw-la placuit_fw-la quod_fw-la tenemus_fw-la explicate_v himself_o yet_o in_o the_o word_n follow_v much_o more_o thus_o quamvis_fw-la huius_fw-la reicertè_fw-la de_fw-la scripture_n non_fw-la proferatur_fw-la exemplum_fw-la ●arundem_fw-la tamen_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la in_o hâc_fw-la re_fw-mi a_o nobis_fw-la tenetur_fw-la veritas_fw-la cùm_fw-la hoc_fw-la facimus_fw-la quod_fw-la universae_fw-la jam_fw-la placuit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quam_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la commendat_fw-la authorit_fw-la as_o commendat_fw-la i.e._n to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n and_o then_o both_o s._n austin_n and_o the_o donatist_n be_v agree_v that_o the_o true_a church_n must_v or_o do_v in_o this_o matter_n hold_v and_o state_n the_o truth_n if_o this_o yet_o satisfy_v not_o see_v the_o same_o say_v again_o elsewhere_o de_n unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la c._n 22._o where_n speak_v of_o the_o non_fw-fr evidence_n concern_v rebaptisation_n in_o scripture_n hoc_fw-la apertè_fw-la atque_fw-la evidenter_fw-la i.e._n in_o the_o scripture_n say_v he_o nec_fw-la ego_fw-la lego_fw-la nec_fw-la tu_fw-la nunc_fw-la verò_fw-la cùm_fw-la in_o scripture_n non_fw-la inveniamus_fw-la etc._n etc._n put●_n si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la sapiens_fw-la extitisset_fw-la cvi_fw-la dominus_fw-la jesus_n christus_fw-la testimonium_fw-la perhibet_fw-la &_o the_o hàc_n quaestione_fw-la consuleretur_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la nullo_n modo_fw-la deber_n mus_fw-la dubitare_fw-la id_fw-la facere_fw-la quod_fw-la ille_fw-la dixisset_fw-la ne_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la ipsi_fw-la quam_fw-la domino_fw-la jesus_n christo_fw-la cujus_fw-la testimonio_fw-la commendatur_fw-la repugnare_fw-la judicaremur_fw-la perhibet_fw-la autem_fw-la testimonium_fw-la christus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la suae_fw-la testimonium_fw-la that_o we_o shall_v follow_v its_o judgement_n facere_fw-la quod_fw-la dicit_fw-la otherwise_o a_o testimony_n to_o it_o concern_v something_o else_o will_v have_v be_v nothing_o to_o s._n augustine_n purpose_n facere_fw-la which_o be_v more_o than_o non-contradicere_a and_o which_o imply_v also_o assentire_fw-la verum_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la dicit_fw-la by_o all_o these_o passage_n we_o see_v the_o certissima_fw-la authoritas_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la be_v concern_v the_o church_n which_o be_v it_o i.e._n the_o catholic_n church_n and_o then_o it_o discover_v be_v concern_v the_o matter_n in_o question_n also_o as_o uner_o determine_v by_o it_o §_o 72_o again_o p._n 253._o he_o urge_v out_o of_o s._n austin_n that_o where_o the_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n be_v very_o plain_a and_o clear_a we_o be_v not_o to_o regard_v what_o donatus_n or_o parmenianus_n or_o pontius_n have_v say_v for_o neither_o say_v he_o be_v we_o to_o yield_v to_o catholic_n bishop_n themselves_o if_o they_o be_v at_o any_o time_n so_o much_o deceive_v as_o to_o hold_v what_o be_v contrary_a to_o canonical_a scripture_n by_o which_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o suppose_v no_o infallibility_n in_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n all_o which_o n.o._n grant_v very_o true_a if_o understand_v as_o the_o father_n speak_v it_o of_o particular_a doctor_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n not_o of_o its_o general_n council_n nor_o can_v one_o rational_o plead_v the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n plain_a and_o clear_a on_o his_o tide_n where_o a_o general_a council_n understand_v and_o expound_v they_o contrary_a §_o 73_o ibid._n he_o urge_v as_o s._n augustine_n word_n that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v to_o be_v prove_v and_o so_o the_o dr_n will_v have_v it_o understand_v of_o other_o controversy_n by_o nothing_o but_o plain_a scripture_n neither_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o optatus_n or_o s._n ambrose_n or_o innumerable_a bishop_n nor_o council_n nor_o miracle_n etc._n etc._n but_o such_o word_n be_v not_o s._n augustine_n nor_o do_v he_o affirm_v that_o which_o be_v the_o true_a church_n can_v be_v prove_v by_o nothing_o but_o scripture_n for_o himself_o say_v elsewhere_o that_o he_o come_v to_o know_v the_o scripture_n from_o the_o church_n first_o know_v to_o he_o and_o the_o church_n by_o miracle_n nor_o speak_v he_o here_o any_o thing_n derogatory_n to_o general_n council_n or_o the_o authority_n or_o infallibility_n of_o they_o of_o which_o see_v more_o in_o the_o annotation_n on_o p._n 251._o l._n 8._o from_o the_o b●_n to_o but_o the_o donatist_n with_o he_o allow_v the_o scripture_n he_o urge_v the_o church_n sufficient_o demonstrable_a by_o their_o clear_a authority_n which_o if_o clear_a alone_o also_o suffice_v and_o therefore_o require_v of_o they_o that_o he_o wave_v these_o other_o proof_n viz_o of_o council_n miracle_n &c_n &c_n on_o his_o side_n wherein_o he_o have_v much_o the_o advantage_n of_o they_o by_o episcopi_fw-la innumerabiles_fw-la and_o miracula_fw-la vera_fw-la so_o they_o will_v wave_v the_o urge_n of_o their_o council_n far_o inferior_a and_o their_o miracle_n vision_n &c_n &c_n fallacious_a on_o their_o side_n which_o argument_n of_o they_o he_o call_v morarum_fw-la tend●●ul●_n and_o that_o they_o shall_v press_v scripture_n again_o 〈◊〉_d scripture_n but_o if_o the_o judgement_n of_o general_n council_n be_v deny_v by_o he_o to_o be_v any_o proof_n in_o controversy_n why_o use_v he_o it_o as_o such_o in_o rebaptization_n §_o 74_o again_o p._n 254._o he_o say_v that_o all_o the_o proof_n s_o austin_n bring_v for_o the_o church_n relate_v to_o the_o universality_n of_o it_o not_o to_o the_o infallibility_n where_o it_o be_v true_a that_o as_o to_o the_o donatist_n the_o universality_n of_o the_o church_n be_v all_o the_o matter_n in_o controversy_n both_o side_n b●●●_n full_o agree_v that_o that_o be_v the_o truth_n in_o the_o controversy_n of_o rebaptisation_n which_o the_o true_a church_n which-soev_a it_o be_v hold_v and_o teach_v otherwise_o from_o the_o church_n determine_v in_o its_o general_n council_n this_o point_n of_o rebaptisation_n s._n austin_n can_v not_o have_v urge_v its_o determine_v a_o truth_n as_o he_o every_o where_o do_v see_v the_o quotation_n in_o note_n on_o p._n 251._o l._n 8._o from_o the_o bott_a and_o the_o donatist_n will_v soon_o have_v reply_v that_o his_o general_n council_n err_v and_o that_o s._n cyprian_n be_v in_o the_o right_n §_o 75_o again_o p._n 255._o he_o produce_v that_o much-worn_a place_n of_o s._n austin_n concilia_fw-la plenaria_fw-la sapè_fw-la priora_fw-la posterioribus_fw-la emendari_fw-la the_o reader_n may_v view_v the_o place_n set_v down_o at_o large_a there_o by_o this_o author_n which_o word_n of_o s._n austin_n 256._o p._n 256._o he_o afterward_o press_v can_v he_o understand_v of_o unlawful_a council_n of_o matter_n of_o fast_a or_o practice_n but_o do_v refer_v to_o the_o great_a question_n then_o in_o debate_n about_o rebaptise_v heretic_n and_o that_o hereby_o s._n austin_n take_v off_o the_o great_a plea_n the_o donatist_n make_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n cyprian_a and_o his_o council_n which_o they_o continual_o urge_v for_o themselves_o but_o n.o._n have_v already_o weigh_v this_o common-place_n and_o reply_v to_o it_o 11._o it_o addit_fw-la to_o p._n 86._o l._n 11._o that_o if_o such_o plenary_a council_n as_o that_o which_o determine_v non-rebaptization_a be_v errable_a and_o amendable_a in_o these_o dogmata_fw-la fidei_fw-la neither_o have_v s._n austin_n any_o reason_n to_o presume_v as_o he_o do_v ibid._n c._n 4._o that_o s._n cyprian_a will_v have_v correct_v his_o opinion_n concern_v this_o point_n or_o to_o charge_v the_o donatist_n with_o heresy_n for_o dissent_v from_o it_o after_o the_o determination_n of_o such_o a_o council_n nor_o have_v the_o second_o general_n council_n any_o just_a ground_n to_o put_v it_o in_o the_o creed_n credo_fw-la unum_fw-la baptisma_fw-la in_o remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la no_o just_a cause_n i_o say_v
to_o do_v any_o such_o thing_n if_o plenaria_fw-la concilia_fw-la take_v in_o their_o high_a capacity_n be_v in_o their_o state_v matter_n of_o faith_n errable_a and_o amendable_a by_o other_o follow_v thus_o n._n o_o to_o which_o the_o reader_n may_v search_v what_o answer_n he_o find_v return_v by_o this_o respondent_fw-la in_o so_o copious_a a_o reply_n §_o 76_o whatever_o the_o sense_n therefore_o of_o this_o place_n be_v of_o which_o see_v more_o in_o the_o annotation_n on_o p._n 255._o l._n 10._o from_o the_o bott_a it_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o lawful_a general_n council_n amend_v one_o another_o as_o to_o any_o matter_n of_o necessary_a faith_n that_o such_o council_n when_o define_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v by_o all_o christian_n believe_v and_o assented-to_a when_o declare_v heretic_n all_o that_o dissent_v and_o perhaps_o insert_v such_o their_o definition_n into_o the_o creed_n yet_o may_v be_v amend_v afterward_o in_o this_o by_o other_o latter_a council_n for_o this_o will_v overthrow_v the_o old_a foundation_n of_o the_o nicene_n and_o athanasian_n creed_n and_o whatever_o can_v be_v discover_v of_o one_o such_o council_n thus_o err_v may_v well_o be_v apply_v to_o any_o other_o this_o also_o will_v overthrow_v particular_o s._n augustine_n veritas_fw-la eliquata_fw-la &_o declarata_fw-la and_o plenarium_fw-la concilium_fw-la confirmavit_fw-la &_o consolidavit_fw-la for_o non-rebaptization_a the_o chief_a if_o not_o the_o only_a argument_n he_o use_v for_o convince_a the_o donatist_n in_o this_o point_n whilst_o they_o may_v here_o plead_v something_o be_v still_o latens_fw-la and_o clausum_fw-la till_o more_o experience_n in_o a_o latter_a council_n shall_v open_v and_o disclose_v it_o and_o so_o must_v all_o before_o cite_v out_o of_o s._n austin_n be_v also_o reverse_v and_o all_o the_o former_a heresy_n revive_v again_o which_o when_o pretend_v scripture_n for_o their_o tenant_n have_v be_v quell_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o such_o council_n §_o 77_o whether_o then_o that_o by_o emendari_fw-la be_v mean_v not_o as_o to_o dogmata_fw-la fidei_fw-la but_o in_o some_o other_o matter_n wherein_o the_o high_a council_n by_o be_v ignorant_a of_o some_o circumstance_n &c_n &c_n be_v liable_a to_o error_n or_o that_o by_o plenaria_fw-la which_o seem_v the_o most_o probable_a be_v mean_v such_o council_n as_o be_v of_o the_o arian_n many_o before_o s._n augustine_n time_n but_o these_o in_o several_a manner_n irregular_a and_o uncanorical_a that_o be_v amend_v by_o other_o follow_v as_o by_o the_o 2d_o general_n council_n of_o constantinople_n and_o by_o that_o of_o sardica_n as_o also_o s._n austin_n elsewhere_o particular_o instance_v in_o that_o of_o ariminum_n call_v a_o plenary_a council_n but_o wherein_o the_o arian_n party_n unjust_o prevail_v with_o the_o emperor_n and_o falsify_v the_o sense_n of_o its_o decree_n amend_v afterward_o by_o the_o council_n and_o the_o church_n judgement_n in_o the_o time_n follow_v see_v lib._n contra_n maximinum_n 3._o c._n 14._o there_o homoousion_n say_v he_o mult_fw-la be_v paucorum_fw-la fraud_n deceptis_fw-la haeretica_fw-la impietas_fw-la sub_fw-la haeretico_fw-la imperatore_n labefactare_fw-la caepit_fw-la sed_fw-la post_fw-la non_fw-la longum_fw-la tempus_fw-la liberate_a fidei_fw-la catholicae_fw-la praevalente_fw-la homoousion_n illud_fw-la catholicae_fw-la fidei_fw-la sanitate_fw-la i.e._n in_o the_o constan_n inopoluan_a and_o sardinican_n council_n longè_fw-la lateque_fw-la defensum_fw-la est_fw-la defensum_fw-la not_o against_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o former_a plenary_a council_n but_o the_o misinterpretation_n and_o tyranny_n of_o a_o minor_a but_o then_o prevalent_a party_n in_o it_o sub_fw-la haeretico_fw-la imperatore_n i_o say_v in_o whichsoever_o of_o the_o forename_a way_n this_o passage_n may_v be_v understand_v as_o probable_o it_o be_v to_o be_v so_o in_o the_o latter_a this_o be_v certain_a that_o it_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o lawful_a general_n council_n amend_v one_o another_o as_o to_o any_o matter_n of_o necessary_a faith_n for_o the_o reason_n but_o now_o give_v beside_o the_o prove_v of_o nothing_o less_o to_o they_o than_o that_o non-rebaptization_a be_v a_o truth_n can_v satisfy_v the_o donatist_n or_o invalidate_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o african_a council_n under_o cyprian_a as_o to_o its_o determine_v the_o truth_n the_o dr_n also_o say_v here_o that_o s._n austin_n urge_v this_o plenaria_fw-la priora_fw-la posterioribus_fw-la emend●ri_fw-la to_o take_v off_o the_o great_a plea_n the_o donatist_n make_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o s_o cyprian_a and_o his_o council_n which_o council_n of_o cyprian_a be_v not_o plenariam_fw-la ex_fw-la universo_fw-it orbe_fw-la christiano_n show_v that_o s._n austin_n need_v not_o for_o confute_v they_o to_o take_v plenatium_n in_o any_o higher-sense_n than_o that_o of_o s_o cyprian_n whereas_o take_v plenaria_fw-la in_o the_o large_a sense_n and_o without_o any_o limitation_n will_v make_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o the_o father_n in_o his_o present_a controversy_n with_o the_o donatist_n about_o rebaptisation_n nay_o more_o against_o he_o for_o there_o be_v no_o two_o such_o council_n that_o be_v both_o general_n whereof_o the_o latter_a have_v amend_v the_o former_a concern_v rebaptisation_n at_o all_o and_o have_v there_o the_o same_o uncertainty_n of_o truth_n will_v have_v be_v in_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o latter_a as_o of_o the_o former_a and_o in_o this_o case_n the_o donatist_n will_v not_o have_v fail_v to_o have_v take_v the_o advantage_n of_o the_o former_a council_n these_o thing_n i_o hope_v the_o equal_a reader_n will_v consider_v though_o the_o dr_n have_v not_o and_o will_v not_o admit_v such_o a_o sense_n of_o this_o place_n as_o if_o true_a contradict_v what_o s._n austin_n say_v so_o often_o elsewhere_o and_o quite_o ruin_v this_o father_n plea_n and_o cause_n §_o 78_o pag._n 256.257_o i_o find_v several_a place_n produce_v wherein_o s._n austin_n prefer_v clear_a scripture_n before_o humane_a though_o never_o so_o learned_a authority_n vary_v from_o they_o but_o find_v in_o he_o no_o comparison_n or_o opposition_n between_o these_o and_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o general_n council_n as_o run_v counter_a to_o one_o another_o how_o can_v this_o be_v when_o in_o the_o controversy_n for_o which_o he_o urge_v scripture_n he_o require_v the_o donatist_n to_o submit_v to_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o council_n §_o 79_o ibid._n he_o say_v the_o utmost_a by_o a_o careful_a consideration_n of_o s._n augustine_n mind_n in_o this_o matter_n that_o i_o can_v find_v be_v that_o in_o a_o question_n of_o so_o doubtful_a and_o obscure_a a_o nature_n as_o that_o of_o rebaptization_n be_v it_o be_v a_o reasonable_a thing_n to_o presume_v that_o what_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n do_v consent_n in_o be_v the_o truth_n not_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o infallibility_n but_o the_o reasonable_a supposition_n that_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n will_v not_o consent_v in_o a_o thing_n repugnant_a to_o any_o apostolical_a doctrine_n or_o tradition_n 86_o consid_fw-la p._n 86_o but_o n.o._n press_v that_o s._n augustine_n mind_n be_v clear_o otherwise_o not_o that_o it_o be_v only_o a_o reasonable_a thing_n to_o presume_v but_o a_o thing_n most_o certain_a that_o what_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n do_v consent_n in_o be_v the_o truth_n as_o appear_v in_o those_o place_n cite_v before_o §_o 55._o and._n 71._o else_o it_o can_v not_o be_v true_a what_o he_o say_v earundem_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o hâc_fw-la re_fw-mi i.e._n in_o non-rebaptization_a tenetur_fw-la veritas_fw-la cùm_fw-la id_fw-la facimus_fw-la quod_fw-la universae_fw-la placuit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la if_o the_o church_n may_v possible_o decide_v it_o amiss_o and_o s._n augustine_n siquis_fw-la falli_fw-la metuit_fw-la huius_fw-la obscuritate_fw-la quaestionis_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la de_fw-la illâ_fw-la consulat_fw-la will_v no_o way_n relieve_v his_o be_v deceive_v still_o if_o the_o church_n consult_v might_n also_o be_v mistake_v in_o it_o nor_o especial_o such_o article_n only_o upon_o a_o reasonable_a supposition_n that_o they_o err_v not_o in_o it_o be_v insert_v in_o the_o creed_n before_o that_o the_o dr_n therefore_o shall_v have_v conclude_v such_o to_o have_v be_v s._n augustine_n mind_n he_o shall_v in_o answer_v these_o thing_n allege_v by_o n.o._n have_v show_v such_o his_o mind_n to_o have_v agree_v with_o his_o word_n §_o 80_o last_o he_o conclude_v thus_o p._n 259_o in_o such_o a_o case_n as_o this_o i_o agree_v to_o what_o s._n augustine_n say_v and_o think_v a_o man_n very_o much_o relieve_v by_o follow_v so_o evident_a a_o consent_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n not_o by_o virtue_n of_o any_o infallibility_n but_o the_o unreasonableness_n of_o believe_v so_o many_o so_o wise_a so_o disinterest_v person_n shall_v be_v deceive_v though_o n.o._n have_v show_v s._n austin_n require_v submission_n of_o the_o donatist_n upon_o the_o general_n council_n determine_v a_o most_o certain_a truth_n yet_o this_o be_v somewhat_o well_o if_o this_o
no_o certainty_n of_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o levitical_a law_n because_o there_o be_v no_o high_a priest_n or_o sunhedrin_n to_o explain_v it_o not_o all_o person_n in_o all_o thing_n without_o a_o explainer_n and_o there_o be_v ancient_o a_o guide_n infallible_a or_o so_o authorize_v as_o that_o all_o be_v to_o stand_v to_o its_o judgement_n appoint_v for_o decide_v several_a doubtful_a part_n of_o moses_n his_o law_n of_o which_o see_v in_o the_o former_a discourse_n §_o 22._o pag._n 101._o l._n 8_o yet_o after_o all_o he_o can_v certain_o understand_v the_o meaning_n of_o they_o not_o of_o some_o of_o they_o exclusive_o to_o a_o infallible_a church-authority_n and_o his_o submission_n thereto_o pag._n 102._o l._n 10._o and_o after_o all_o this_o can_v we_o understand_v &_o c_o that_o every_o one_o can_v without_o some_o other_o help_n than_o only_o our_o lord_n and_o his_o apostle_n discourse_n i_o think_v this_o author_n grant_v before_o p._n 96._o 97._o and_o sic_fw-la oportebat_fw-la ut_fw-la diceretur_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la intelligeretur_fw-la say_v s._n austin_n 27._o austin_n in_o joan._n tract_n 27._o of_o our_o lord_n sermon_n about_o the_o eucharist_n in_o the_o 6_o of_o s._n john_n ibid._n l._n 7_o our_o question_n be_v not_o about_o may_v be_v his_o therefore_o n.o._n in_o those_o consideration_n on_o princip_n 13._o p._n 14._o etc._n etc._n contend_v that_o god_n not_o only_o may_v but_o have_v so_o reveal_v his_o mind_n that_o in_o many_o thing_n it_o be_v clear_a to_o some_o person_n when_o not_o to_o other_o and_o for_o this_o quote_v dr_n field_n on_o his_o side_n ib._n l._n 5_o it_o be_v take_v for_o grant_v on_o both_o side_n that_o god_n have_v reveal_v his_o mind_n in_o writing_n but_o not_o grant_v that_o he_o have_v reveal_v it_o so_o clear_o in_o write_v as_o none_o may_v mistake_v any_o part_n of_o it_o i_o be_o afraid_a i_o tire_v out_o the_o reader_n with_o so_o often_o repetition_n of_o the_o same_o limitation_n and_o restriction_n apply_v to_o a_o discourse_n that_o render_v itself_o plausible_a by_o omit_v they_o the_o use_n of_o indefinite_a term_n and_o proposition_n be_v a_o sure_a way_n and_o a_o fine_a art_n for_o controvertist_n to_o answer_v one_o another_o and_o both_o speak_v truth_n so_o these_o two_o scripture_n be_v clear_a in_o point_n of_o necessary_a faith_n and_o scripture_n be_v not_o clear_a in_o point_n of_o necessary_a faith_n be_v both_o very_a true_a as_o to_o several_a person_n and_o in_o several_a matter_n of_o necessary_a faith_n pag._n 103._o l._n 14._o but_o when_o i_o have_v express_o say_v thing_n necessary_a for_o salvation_n why_o do_v he_o avoid_v that_o which_o the_o dispute_n be_v about_o and_o only_o say_v many_o thing_n it_o be_v a_o oversight_n in_o n.o._n but_o no_o advantage_n make_v by_o it_o who_o in_o speak_v of_o the_o clearness_n of_o scripture_n add_v the_o term_n as_o to_o necessary_n frequent_o and_o that_o in_o the_o consideration_n upon_o the_o very_a same_o principle_n see_v p._n 15._o if_o these_o in_o all_o necessary_n be_v clear_a of_o every_o particular_a christian_a in_o all_o point_v necessary_a such_o a_o clearness_n in_o necessary_n must_v the_o scripture_n have_v etc._n etc._n by_o which_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v whether_o his_o adversary_n have_v cause_n to_o complain_v but_o so_o do_v not_o the_o dr_n when_o speak_v of_o church_n infallibility_n add_v this_o term_n as_o to_o necessary_n use_v by_o n.o._n ib._n l._n 10_o i_o never_o yet_o see_v one_o difficulty_n remove_v by_o the_o pretend_a infallible_a guide_n of_o the_o church_n general_a council_n be_v these_o pretend_a infallible_a guide_n and_o the_o doubt_a and_o dispute_v sense_n of_o many_o scripture_n in_o necessary_a matter_n have_v be_v clear_v by_o these_o council_n and_o some_o of_o they_o put_v in_o the_o church_n creed_n pag._n 104._o l._n 8._o nothing_o of_o it_o their_o talon_n of_o infallibility_n ever_o appear_v above_o ground_n see_v the_o last_o note_n ib._n l._n 15._o suppose_v we_o believe_v their_o infallibility_n we_o be_v still_o as_o far_o to_o seek_v for_o the_o meaning_n of_o many_o difficult_a place_n the_o church_n be_v not_o say_v to_o be_v infallible_a in_o all_o thing_n whatew_a as_o the_o scripture_n be_v but_o in_o necessary_n as_o these_o be_v explain_v in_o the_o former_a discourse_n §_o 2_o and_o in_o 2d_o discourse_n concern_v the_o guide_n §_o 9_o etc._n etc._n viz_o in_o all_o point_n that_o be_v any_o way_n beneficial_a either_o as_o to_o the_o general_n oeconomy_n or_o government_n of_o the_o church_n or_o as_o to_o the_o salvation_n of_o particular_n to_o be_v believe_v or_o practise_v by_o her_o subject_n and_o the_o truth_n of_o which_o the_o scripture_n or_o tradition_n at_o least_o as_o to_o the_o necessary_a principle_n from_o which_o such_o point_n be_v extract_v do_v sufficient_o evidence_n unto_o she_o such_o from_o time_n to_o time_n as_o they_o be_v call_v in_o question_n be_v state_v and_o determine_v by_o she_o whilst_o neither_o have_a leisure_n nor_o perhaps_o light_a to_o determine_v all_o other_o i_o mean_v such_o as_o be_v no_o way_n necessary_a to_o be_v determine_v of_o which_o thing_n what_o point_n be_v and_o what_o be_v not_o so_o the_o church_n herself_o and_o not_o her_o subject_n be_v the_o most_o proper_a judge_n ib._n l._n 6_o so_o that_o not_o make_v use_n of_o this_o talon_n of_o infallibility_n give_v we_o just_a reason_n to_o question_n whether_o god_n continue_v it_o then_o from_o the_o church_n have_v well_o use_v this_o talon_n we_o may_v gather_v the_o contrary_a viz._n the_o divine_a providence_n it_o be_v still_o preserve_v it_o to_o she_o pag._n 107._o l._n 9_o which_o several_a expression_n of_o dr_n field's_n amount_v to_o no_o more_o than_o this_o that_o there_o will_v be_v always_o some_o true_a christian_n in_o the_o world_n contrary_n to_o this_o dr_n field_n hold_v that_o in_o all_o age_n there_o be_v 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to_o any_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n ever_o since_o we_o be_v sure_o they_o speak_v by_o a_o infallible_a spirit_n and_o where_o they_o have_v determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n &_o practice_n we_o look_v upon_o it_o as_o arrogance_n &_o presumption_n in_o any_o other_o to_o alter_v what_o they_o have_v declare_v where_o they_o have_v determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n or_o practice_n but_o who_o be_v judge_n of_o this_o what_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n have_v determine_v the_o church_n council_n or_o private_a man_n each_o for_o himself_o ib._n l._n 13_o till_o ignorance_n ambition_n private_a interest_n sway_v too_o much_o among_o those_o who_o be_v call_v the_o guide_n these_o vice_n in_o all_o age_n be_v find_v in_o some_o and_o be_v just_o by_o other_o reprove_v but_o do_v he_o charge_v these_o on_o the_o church_n supreme_a guide_n or_o its_o general_a council_n then_o if_o we_o decline_v their_o judgement_n on_o this_o account_n to_o what_o other_o court_n or_o person_n 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be_v guide_v by_o another_o opinion_n in_o they_o catholic_n willing_o allow_v withdraw_v obedience_n where_o you_o have_v certainty_n but_o how_o vain_o do_v any_o one_o pretend_v or_o promise_v himself_o a_o certainty_n of_o any_o thing_n wherein_o a_o general_a council_n or_o a_o much_o major_a part_n of_o the_o church_n have_v all_o the_o same_o mean_n of_o certainty_n as_o he_o judge_v contrary_a or_o fancy_n that_o such_o a_o matter_n carry_v the_o like_a evidence_n to_o person_n as_o do_v the_o whiteness_n of_o snow_n ib._n l._n 12._o i_o be_o certain_a if_o i_o destroy_v the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n i_o must_v overthrow_v the_o ground_n of_o christian_a religion_n what_o if_o i_o disbelieve_v sense_n only_o in_o such_o a_o particular_a thing_n where_o divine_a revelation_n declare_v the_o contrary_a though_o indeed_o the_o sense_n in_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o deceive_v at_o all_o its_o object_n still_o remain_v there_o out_o the_o person_n if_o from_o it_o he_o 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dissent_v he_o proceed_v ib._n l._n 14._o by_o which_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o suppose_v no_o infallibility_n in_o the_o guide_n of_o the_o church_n i.e._n single_a or_o a_o few_o contradict_v by_o the_o more_o and_o superior_a ib._n l._n 16._o and_o in_o term_n he_o assert_n 19_o assert_n de_fw-fr vnita_fw-la eccles_n c._n 19_o that_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v prove_v by_o nothing_o but_o plain_a scripture_n neither_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o optatus_n or_o s._n ambrose_n or_o innumcrable_a bishop_n nor_o council_n nor_o miracle_n interme_v he_o assert_n no._n these_o be_v not_o s._n augustine_n word_n true_o translate_v or_o quote_v after_o s._n austin_n ib._n c._n 18._o have_v thus_o speak_v to_o the_o donatist_n remotis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la talibus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la demonstrent_fw-la si_fw-la possunt_fw-la non_fw-la in_o sermonibus_fw-la &_o rum●ribus_fw-la afrorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o conciliis_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o 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optatus_n vel_fw-la mediolanensis_fw-la ambrose_n vel_fw-la alii_fw-la innumerabiles_fw-la nostrae_fw-la communionis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la collegarum_fw-la conciliis_fw-la ipsa_fw-la praedicata_fw-la est_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la per_fw-la totum_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la sanctis_fw-la quae_fw-la frequentat_fw-la nostra_fw-la communio_fw-la tanta_fw-la mirabilia_fw-la vel_fw-la exauditionum_fw-la vel_fw-la sanitatum_fw-la fiunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n where_o s._n austin_n say_v not_o that_o the_o church_n can_v be_v prove_v by_o nothing_o but_o plain_a scripture_n or_o deny_v that_o general_a council_n or_o true_a miracle_n or_o universal_a tradition_n be_v no_o sufficient_a proof_n thereof_o of_o which_o general_a council_n he_o speak_v nothing_o here_o but_o of_o those_o of_o the_o two_o party_n concilia_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la on_o one_o side_n and_o concilia_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la cellegarum_fw-la on_o the_o other_o and_o we_o may_v see_v in_o the_o quotation_n before_o note_n on_o p._n 251._o l._n 12._o s._n austin_n know_v the_o scripture_n from_o the_o church_n and_o the_o church_n from_o other_o mark_n among_o which_o true_a miracle_n sure_o be_v the_o high_a proof_n of_o any_o truth_n and_o so_o be_v of_o the_o apostle_n their_o be_v god_n true_a church_n and_o minister_n but_o the_o father_n to_o the_o donatist_n allow_v with_o he_o the_o scripture_n urge_v the_o church_n as_o demonstrable_a by_o their_o clear_a testimony_n not_o as_o the_o only_a testimony_n but_o the_o chief_a and_o such_o as_o more_o than_o this_o need_v not_o and_o exact_v of_o they_o that_o he_o wave_v these_o other_o proof_n on_o his_o side_n wherein_o he_o have_v much_o the_o advantage_n of_o they_o by_o his_o innumerabiles_fw-la episcopi_fw-la which_o sure_o ought_v to_o carry_v it_o against_o they_o and_o vera_fw-la miracula_fw-la so_o they_o will_v the_o urge_n of_o their_o council_n far_o inferior_a and_o their_o miracle_n fallacious_a on_o their_o side_n and_o bring_v in_o their_o defence_n anti-scripture_n to_o his_o scripture_n in_o these_o thing_n i_o refer_v myself_o to_o the_o candid_a examiner_n of_o the_o place_n ib._n l._n 6._o he_o endeavour_v to_o bring_v they_o to_o a_o resolution_n in_o the_o other_o point_n the_o church_n for_o the_o clear_n of_o this_o non-rebaptization_a but_o how_o do_v prove_v such_o a_o society_n as_o define_v non-rebaptization_a to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n clear_v non-rebaptization_a to_o be_v the_o right_a practice_n which_o s._n austin_n infer_v from_o it_o if_o this_o church_n prove_v yet_o may_v err_v in_o define_v it_o so_o pag._n 255._o l._n 10_o 3._o 10_o s._n austin_n de_fw-fr baptisn●_n l._n 2._o c._n 3._o and_o of_o these_o general_a council_n the_o former_a be_v often_o an●●nded_v by_o the_o latter_a as_o this_o place_n be_v often_o urge_v by_o protestant_n so_o it_o be_v answer_v to_o by_o catholic_n that_o take_v the_o father_n word_n plenaria_fw-la concilia_fw-la or_o general_a council_n as_o relate_v to_o the_o word_n immediate_o precede_v quae_fw-la fiunt_fw-la ex_fw-la universo_fw-it orbe_fw-la christiano_n which_o be_v not_o necessary_a n._n 1_o such_o general_a council_n may_v correct_v and_o amend_v one_o another_o the_o latter_a the_o former_a as_o to_o several_a thing_n though_o never_o as_o to_o dogmata_fw-la fidei_fw-la for_o as_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n 12._o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr council_n l._n 2._o c._n 12._o in_o conciliis_fw-la maxima_fw-la pars_fw-la actorum_fw-la ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la non_fw-la pertinet_fw-la sed_fw-la tantùm_fw-la ipsa_fw-la nuda_fw-la decreta_fw-la &_o ea_fw-la non_fw-la omne_fw-la sed_fw-la tantùm_fw-la quae_fw-la proponuntur_fw-la tanquam_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la interdum_fw-la enim_fw-la concilia_fw-la aliquid_fw-la definiunt_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la certum_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la probabile_fw-la he_o grant_v ibid._n that_o concilia_fw-la in_o judiciis_fw-la particularibus_fw-la i.e._n ubi_fw-la non_fw-la affirmatur_fw-la aliquid_fw-la generale_fw-mi &_o toti_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la common_a errare_fw-la possunt_fw-la so_o he_o grant_v 2._o l._n 7._o c._n quad_n aliqua_fw-la praecepta_fw-la morum_fw-la concilia_fw-la plenaria_fw-la priora_fw-la emendari_fw-la per_fw-la posteriora_fw-la upon_o s._n augustine_n reason_n quando_fw-la experimento_fw-la aliquo_fw-la aperitur_fw-la quod_fw-la clausum_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o s._n augustine_n word_n mean_v this_o so_o catholic_n grant_v it_o n._n 2_o but_o 2_o if_o s._n augustine_n word_n must_v be_v understand_v of_o such_o plenary_a and_o absolute_o general_a council_n without_o any_o remit_v of_o the_o high_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n whenas_o indeed_o these_o word_n vniversale_fw-la generale_fw-mi plenarium_fw-la be_v apply_v to_o council_n of_o a_o small_a collection_n of_o bishop_n when_o this_o from_o several_a partss_n and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o quotation_n the_o father_n say_v concern_v rebapization_n that_o diutiùs_fw-la per_fw-la orbis_fw-la terrarum_fw-la regiones_fw-la multis_fw-la hinc_fw-la atque_fw-la hinc_fw-la disputationibuus_fw-la &_o collationibus_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la pertractata_fw-la est_fw-la and_o several_a synod_n be_v for_o it_o hold_v in_o the_o east_n as_o well_o as_o in_o africa_n 4._o africa_n see_v euseb_n l._n 7._o c._n 4._o thus_o what_o the_o father_n say_v here_o will_v make_v nothing_o for_o he_o as_o to_o his_o present_a controversy_n with_o the_o donatist_n about_o rebaptisation_n nay_o more_o against_o he_o for_o there_o be_v no_o two_o such_o council_n that_o be_v both_o general_n whereof_o the_o latter_a have_v amend_v the_o former_a concern_v rebaptisation_n at_o all_o and_o have_v there_o the_o same_o uncertainty_n of_o truth_n will_v have_v be_v in_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o latter_a as_o of_o the_o former_a and_o in_o this_o case_n the_o donatist_n will_v not_o have_v fail_v to_o have_v take_v the_o advantage_n of_o the_o former_a general_n council_n n._n 3_o but_o 3_o apply_v s._n augustine_n word_n ipsa_fw-la plenaria_fw-la sapè_fw-la priora_fw-la posterioribus_fw-la emendari_fw-la as_o in_o reason_n we_o ought_v to_o the_o time_n precede_v his_o as_o also_o consider_v those_o other_o word_n he_o add_v sine_fw-la ullo_fw-la typho_n sacrilegae_fw-la superbiae_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o seem_v to_o speak_v 14._o speak_v see_v contra_fw-la maximinum_n l._n 3._o c._n 14._o of_o the_o plenary_a but_o illegal_a arian_n council_n that_o be_v not_o plenary_a in_o the_o large_a