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A43721	The saints justified and their accusers found out: or an answer to the great dragons message, put forth in five positions by one of his messengers Who for this purpose made use of Edward Laurance priest at Bast-church, a place so called in the county of Salop, who at a dispute at Milford-Hall in the said county, not far from the said steeple-house, stood up to prove the 5. positions, and there contended for his masters kingdom, that none could not but live in sin while they were upon the earth, (no not the saints) whom he there accused to live in sin; and other falsities he stood up to prove, producing scriptures to that end, but left all unproved to anies understanding there who had the least true discerning to discerne with. Also a few queries put forth to be answered by the aforesaid priest (if he will) or any else of his brethren. By a witnesse against the dragons message (of mans alwayes living in sin here) and for the truth, called Richard Hickock.	Hickock, Richard.	1660 (1660)	Wing H1917A; ESTC R221599	13,211	17

Assemblies cannot hide you nay any who have scriptures to read and will read them honestly over may see you are another sort of Ministers then the Ministers of Christ were and if another sort that makes use of the Name of Christ in your preaching and praying Then it must needs be the Minister● of Antichrist and such is the qualifications of the Ministers of Antichrist to take the goods of people of them by force who owe you nothing and to bring them before Rulers and Governours if they deny and cast them into prison besides t is time to leave telling of your qualifications till ye be better and till you be turned out of Simon Magus his way and road who would have bought the holy Ghost with money you may leave off telling of your caltoo And I pray you priests who led him to offer money to purchase that power that was among the Apostles but his great master the Devil and surely the Lord doth not lead his Ministers to follow Simon the Sorcerer the Devils servant so cease from your call and qualifications they both being bad and return to the Light of Christ which you have so much despised and learn at that and be not proud to stoop so low that you be not alwayes Ideots and Novices Now concerning his fourth and fifth Position I know nothing at all that he said to either of them except what is said at the latter end of what is said to the Reader yet that they may not go without an answer his two last Positions is as followeth Pr. That the people called Quakers are no true Church of Jesus Christ That the Quaking amongst them is a Delusion of the Devil Answ Though these two Positions remain without any proof at all to uphold them yet being I have found that they remain in the minds of some as if they were true Take this answer to the first of these I answer That for the people called Quakers they are a People evil spoken of in every Parish and Country I have been in since I first either heard of them or knew them this I speak as from what I know and that not onely of one two or three sorts of Religions but of all that I met with have I heard this evil spoke of and I find in Scripture that the way that the true Church was of was evil spoken of every where and I find that the Corinthians which was a true Church received Paul with fear and Trembling 2 Cor 7.15 and he spake to the Philippians which was of the true Church to work out their salvation with fear and Trembling and I know them to be a People that walks much in the fear of God and who walks there have a place in God where the true Church is as 1 Thess 1.1 and 2 Thessalonians 1. and where this man can find proofs to prove such as these no true Church I know not without he fly to lies and false reports for his refuge and proofs but wo must come upon them that make lies their refuge for with Truth he can never do it And to the last Position I Answer That the Quaking that is witnessed amongst these despised People is no delusion of the Devil but the mighty power of God which casts down delusions and overturns them and I question not but the same power was despised in the Prophets and Apostles dayes by the same generation who then were strangers to the power that wrought in the true Prophets and Apostles so they were persecuted as Deceivers and put to death under the name of Schismaticks Hereticks and Deceivers and Paul bid work out your Salvation with fear and trembling as before is said and the true Church witnessed Trembling as before is proved And the Lord said to them that were got above the fear of God whose hearts were hardened c. Fear ye not me saith the Lord will ye not Tremble at my presence Jeremiah 5.22 Isaak Trembled Gen. 27.33 Habakuks belly Trembled c. Hab. 3.16 But concerning this did Edward Lawrance make a jest which shewed he was a stranger to the work of the power of God in him and so where it is witnessed he calls it a Delusion of the Devil This is one of them who puts good for evil and calls evil good but when your reward comes upon you it shall come as an armed man that you cannot escape it so Repent betime least there be no place left R. H. A FEVV QUERIES As followeth I. YOV who say men cannot but live in sin here do not you exhort people from sin and if so then how doth that agree to exhort them from sin and also tell them they cannot but live in it here is not this confusion and Babylonish work II. Is there not a time to confesse and a time to forsake sin and come out of it and is not man to come out of sin here what preach you Priests of this say you I or nay if I then whether are the Saints they that come out or they that stay in sin If those be they that come out then what are they in that which they are come out of what Logick have you to make these agree III. And you who say the Scripture is the Word of God doth not the Scriptures give this testimony that the word of the Lord endures for ever as 1 Pet. 1.23.25 And doth not the word Scripture singnifie as much as to say a writing and do you not know that words written or printed with ink on paper cannot endure for ever how then by Scripture can you prove those words which are written or printed with ink on paper to be this word the Scriptures testifies of IV. And is there not plain Scriptures which saith the Word was in the beginning and was made flesh and by it the Heavens were made as John 1.1 2 3.10.14 Psal 33.6 Heb. 11.3 But where doth the Scriptures give this testimony of themselves Are you such fools and Idiots to put no difference between the Word and words the declarer and the declared what see you no difference between it and what it said you must to school to the Light to be taught before you can be true witnesses of the Word V. In Ephes 6.17 a scripture which is used by you Priests to prove the scriptures the Word of God it is said that the Sword of the Spirit is the Word of God hath the Devil this Sword the Sword of the Spirit or did he ever use it to overcome any with or is the Scriptures this Sword if the Scriptures neither be this Sword nor he never had it nor used it you know he had the Scriptures and made use of them to tempt Christ that if it had been possible he might overcome him Matthew 4.6 VI. And if it be so that he had the Scriptures but not the Sword of the Spirit then you Priests in what are you above him who have the Scriptures to make use of as Weapons to overcome your Enemies with but wants the Sword of the Spirit which if you say nay then prove the Scriptures it seeing you put them for it which if you cannot your fruit will not prove you have it for you let your fruit be laid before you and tryal be made VII Again you Priests seeing you tell people you are Ministers of Christ whether have not they Christ for their Example who are his Ministers if they have how prove you your Example from Christ of taking peoples Lambs Piggs Geese Calves Foals Corn Hay Wool Hemp Flax and other goods from them for preaching yea and if they will not give it you to take it by force surely the Sword of the Spirit destroys and cuts down this fruit and did not Christ say By the false Prophets and Deceivers and Anti-christ preachers which was to come that by their fruits men should know them Mat. 7.15 16 17. Now it lies on you to prove this the fruit of Christ or else you must no more own your selves to be his Ministers but Ministers of Antichrist tell the people so and you will tell them truth VIII And seeing you prate so much of your call to the Ministry tell who sent and Commissionated you to Preach whether were you called immediate of God or of Man if of man whence then had they power to make you Ministers and after what manner did they make or ordain you to be Ministers if by the laying on of their hands have you received the Holy Ghost by it if not nor they had not their Authority from God to do so but would imitate to do as like as they could to what they had read that others did then whether I say are you Presbiters followers of the Pope or of Pharaohs Inchanters or whether are you not like them both they both being out of the Power of God yea and to Simon Magus the Sorcerer who would have bought the Holy Ghost with Money which with Money cannot be bought R. H. THE END

The Saints Justified AND THEIR ACCUSERS FOUND OUT OR An Answer to the great Dragons Message Put forth in five Positions by one of his Messengers WHO For this purpose made use of Edward Laurance Priest at Bast-church a place so called in the County of Salop who at a Dispute at Milford-Hall in the said County not far from the said Steeple-house stood up to prove the 5. Positions and there contended for his Masters kingdom that none could not but live in sin while they were upon the earth no not the Saints whom he there accused to live in sin And other falsities he stood up to prove producing scriptures to that end but left all unproved to anies understanding there who had the least true discerning to discerne with Also a few Queries put forth to be answered by the aforesaid Priest if he will or any else of his Brethren By a Witnesse against the Dragons Message of mans alwayes living in sin here and for the Truth called Richard Hickock LONDON Printed for Thomas Simmons at the signe of the Bull and Mouth near Aldersgate 1660. To the Reader ABout the latter end of the eighth moneth in this year accounted 1659. as I was passing through Denbigh-shire into Shrop-shire I heard of a great boasting that was amongst the Priests followers how that ene Edward Laurance had overthrown the Quakers at a dispute which was at Milford-hall in Shrop-shire in which County I heard the like boasting and in some other parts and perceiving that a false testimony had 〈◊〉 spread abroad concerning the said dispute by the Priests friends that truth might not lie under false reports could not omit but give a true testimony of it as in eye and ear witnesse and from 〈◊〉 to last how it was carried on that day The aforesaid Edward wrote five Positions which he give to one which is called a Quaker and promised to prove them at some of their meetings upon which the day was appointed and being so that a pretty distance of time was between the delivering of his Paper and the time he was to prove what he had wrote in it the noise of it spread abroad and 〈◊〉 a great multitude were gathered together on the day appointed to hear both parties the Priest being come who though he knew we were no upholder of Steeple-houses yet he prest on us to go telling us that it was a more fit and convenient place for that work which was contrary to his promise which was to do at our meeting to which promise we kept him that we might not be guilty by submitting to his will of him breaking of his promise which he seeing that we would not go from the place appointed our meeting being without he pleaded that he had but a week body and wa● subject to be troubled with the tooth-ach and saying that was not a place for him upon which we proferred him to stand within the house and to speak through the window and we to stand without but he not being willing to engage denyed that saying the winde would be sharper in the windows then elsewhere and such like excuses so went his way from us to the Steeple house and a great rude company with him and many stayed with us waiting to see the event of the day and after a while we sent unto him that he would either come here or else he was a lyar and did not fulfil his promise and with much ado he came with two or three other Priests with him and a ru●● multitude and then he went to the window though he had denyed them before and there began to prove his Positions as he had them wrote down in his book and ever when any of us who are called Quakers did answer against what he had said the rude multitude cryed out hold thy tongue hold thy tongue we will not hear thee we will not hear thee and he called to them again whose hearts were fully given up to receive what ever he said but nothing that the people called Quakers said are you satisfied in what I have said people are you satisfied people to whom they answered we are we are we are And to make short and come to speak something to the matter thus it continued all the while and nothing would be received nor heard but what the Priest spake except it was with a few honest-hearted ones who desire truly to know the truth And when three of the Positions were run over though not one of them proved he with a scorn cast out on them whom the Lord loves saying That by that time the Quakers hearts were as rotten as Habakuks bones we shall be shut of them and so went to prayers and with such a preparation as th●… did he pray which when he had done he would not stay for no mans words though two Positions was not at all disputed on and his wicked multitude thrusting one another fell a fighting but with patience were we through the love of God carried on that day to bear the reproach of our enemies and to rest satisfied in the truth though the wicked would not hear its testimony nor receive it And this had not been given forth but finding lyes pass so lively for truth so long after their birth By a witnesse to Truth and against lies R. H. The Saints justified and the Accusers found out First the Priest said as followeth Pr. I undertook to prove that the dearest Saints of God living upon earth have sin and that I do thus By proving that the Apostle Paul cried out of a body of sin and that David was a man after Gods own heart and yet a sinner and John said if we say we have no sin we deceive our selves c. as Rom. 7.24 1 Joh. 1.8 Eccles 7.20 2 Sam. 11. Answ The end for which this Position was laid down and these Scriptures brought forth for was to prove That no man cannot but while that he lives here he must live in sin This being truly weighed and these Scriptures honestly read over a rational man may see they prove no such thing When the Devil tempted Christ he for his own ends made use of the Scriptures t is no marvel if his Ministers do the like to labour in the Scriptures like him to bring if they can about their wicked designes though such labour in the Scriptures by turning over leaf after leaf and quoting line after line to prove that none can live here but whilest they live here they must live in sin yet such Labour not in the Word and Doctrine nor speaks the Scriptures as they were spake forth by the true Prophets and Apostles but useth them to answer their ends to wit to accuse the Saints with and to prove them to live in sin yea the dearest of them so the Devil hath true service by them that great Dragon and old Serpent which deceiveth the World and accuseth the Saints Rev 12.9 10. Surely you Priests have