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A66526 VindiciƦ vindiciarum, or, A vindication of a late treatise, entituled, Infant-baptism asserted and vindicated by Scripture and antiquity in answer to Mr. Hen. D'Anvers his reply : to which is annexed, the Right Reverend Dr. Barlow (now Bishop-elect of Lincoln) his apologetical-letter : also An appeal to the Baptists (so called) against Mr. Danvers, for his strange forgeries, and misrepresentations of divers councils and authors, both antient and modern / by Obed Wills. Wills, Obed.; Barlow, Thomas, 1607-1691. Appeal to the Baptists against Henry D'Anvers, Esq. 1675 (1675) Wing W2868; ESTC R38662 92,093 163

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leigh_n crit._n sac._n and_o be_v proper_o speak_v de_fw-fr partu_fw-la recens_fw-la edito_fw-la of_o a_o child_n new_o bear_v quote_v beza_n on_o luke_n 18._o 15._o who_o say_v the_o word_n proper_o be_v take_v for_o infant_n teneri_fw-la nimirum_fw-la &_o adhuc_fw-la ab_fw-la uberibus_fw-la pendents_n parvuli_fw-la i._n e._n suck_v babe_n such_o as_o be_v carry_v in_o arm_n the_o same_o word_n be_v give_v to_o christ_n when_o the_o wiseman_n find_v he_o in_o swadling-clout_n luke_n 2._o 12._o and_o we_o have_v it_o again_o for_o a_o newborn_a babe_n 1._o pet._n 2._o 2._o as_o newborn_a babe_n desire_v the_o sincere_a milk_n of_o the_o word_n etc._n etc._n but_o mr._n danvers_n have_v not_o do_v with_o nazianzen_n yet_o and_o therefore_o frame_v a_o objection_n for_o we_o and_o answer_v it_o himself_o thus_o it_o be_v not_o manifest_a that_o in_o case_n of_o death_n he_o will_v have_v a_o infant_n baptize_v to_o which_o he_o answer_v it_o be_v true_a but_o that_o be_v not_o quà_fw-la 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death_n they_o be_v such_o as_o be_v capacitate_v for_o that_o ordinance_n on_o the_o account_n of_o god_n covenant_n else_o why_o do_v he_o speak_v of_o circumcise_n child_n in_o the_o very_a place_n which_o be_v now_o under_o debate_n melius_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la nondum_fw-la rationis_fw-la compotes_fw-la sanctificari_fw-la quam_fw-la non_fw-la signatos_fw-la et_fw-la initiatos_fw-la vitâ_fw-la excedere_fw-la nazianz._n orat._n 40._o it_o be_v better_a say_v he_o they_o shall_v be_v consecrate_v without_o their_o knowledge_n than_o to_o die_v without_o the_o seal_n and_o not_o be_v initiate_v idque_fw-la nobis_fw-la designat_fw-la octavum_fw-la diem_fw-la circumcisio_fw-la illa_fw-la itaque_fw-la fuit_fw-la figurale_fw-la signaculum_fw-la ac_fw-la propter_fw-la irrationale_n introducta_fw-la for_o so_o it_o happen_v to_o the_o circumcise_a babe_n of_o israel_n but_o let_v the_o account_n be_v what_o it_o will_v upon_o which_o nazianzen_n will_v have_v child_n
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by_o what_o authority_n he_o baptise_a joh._n 1._o 15._o but_o what_o need_v more_o be_v say_v to_o this_o when_o mr._n tomb_n himself_o to_o who_o i_o hope_v mr._n danvers_n will_v subscribe_v acknowledge_v examen_fw-la p._n 89._o that_o it_o be_v well_o know_v baptism_n be_v in_o use_n among_o the_o jew_n in_o the_o initiate_a proselyte_n for_o many_o year_n together_o with_o circumcision_n chap._n ii_o wherein_o mr._n danvers_n pretend_v to_o show_v that_o infants-baptism_n have_v neither_o foundation_n in_o scripture_n nor_o antiquity_n with_o a_o answer_n thereto_o §_o 1._o the_o argument_n use_v in_o his_o treatise_n of_o baptism_n we_o have_v again_o in_o this_o his_o reply_n thus_o that_o if_o infants-baptism_n have_v be_v any_o appointment_n or_o ordinance_n of_o jesus_n christ_n there_o will_v have_v be_v some_o precept_n or_o example_n but_o the_o scripture_n be_v whole_o silent_a as_o to_o either_o etc._n etc._n to_o which_o i_o give_v this_o answer_n in_o my_o infants-baptism_n assert_v etc._n etc._n first_o a_o thing_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v command_v in_o scripture_n two_o way_n 1._o express_o or_o literal_o and_o syllabical_o that_o be_v totidem_fw-la verbis_fw-la in_o so_o many_o word_n thus_o we_o acknowledge_v infants-baptism_n be_v not_o command_v it_o be_v nowhere_o say_v go_v baptise_v infant_n if_o it_o have_v there_o will_v have_v be_v no_o controversy_n 2._o a_o thing_n may_v be_v command_v in_o scripture_n implicit_o and_o by_o good_a consequence_n and_o what_o be_v thus_o command_v be_v as_o valid_a and_o oblige_a as_o if_o it_o be_v in_o so_o many_o letter_n and_o syllable_n and_o thus_o we_o affirm_v infants-baptism_n be_v command_v there_o be_v in_o scripture_n clear_a ground_n and_o principle_n from_o whence_o by_o just_a and_o warrantable_a consequence_n it_o may_v be_v deduce_v that_o beleiver_n child_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v for_o if_o they_o belong_v to_o the_o covenant_n and_o be_v holy_a if_o they_o be_v 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council_n about_o a_o hundred_o and_o fifty_o year_n before_o that_o infant_n may_v be_v baptise_a before_o the_o eight_o day_n but_o no_o anathema_n be_v make_v about_o this_o point_n of_o baptism_n so_o early_o 4._o observe_v reader_n what_o a_o idle_a inference_n my_o antagonist_n draw_v from_o the_o pretend_a grant_n of_o i_o then_o say_v he_o if_o it_o be_v so_o that_o the_o canon_n in_o the_o milevitan_a council_n and_o enforce_a infants-baptism_n with_o thirty_o more_o council_n do_v the_o same_n be_v only_o make_v upon_o the_o occasion_n of_o those_o that_o deny_v or_o oppose_v it_o we_o have_v then_o say_v he_o our_o witness_n throughout_o all_o age_n confirm_v by_o himself_o the_o reader_n must_v needs_o see_v how_o precarious_a he_o be_v in_o his_o reason_n and_o if_o he_o have_v no_o more_o to_o say_v for_o his_o witness_n in_o all_o age_n than_o this_o i_o be_o sure_a he_o will_v never_o carry_v it_o at_o the_o bar_n of_o a_o impartial_a judge_n he_o must_v seek_v 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symphorianus_n magd._n cent._n 3._o c._n 6._o p._n 1._o 25._o 2._o what_o though_o we_o have_v not_o the_o particular_a name_n of_o child_n have_v not_o the_o church-register_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o we_o be_v inform_v in_o general_a that_o it_o be_v then_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n to_o baptise_v child_n as_o we_o have_v it_o in_o the_o same_o place_n beforementioned_a p._n 125._o significat_fw-la cyprianus_n in_fw-la epistola_fw-la ad_fw-la fidum_fw-la etiam_fw-la osculum_fw-la infanti_fw-la a_o ministro_fw-la baptizante_fw-la dari_fw-la solitum_fw-la that_o be_v cyprian_a in_o his_o epistle_n to_o fidus_n do_v likewise_o intimate_a that_o the_o minister_n use_v to_o kiss_v the_o child_n when_o he_o baptise_a it_o let_v mr._n danvers_n friend_n judge_v whether_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o if_o no_o more_o can_v be_v say_v to_o confute_v all_o his_o discourse_n about_o antiquity_n add_v hereunto_o this_o
5._o p._n 239._o hieronimus_fw-la quoque_fw-la lib._n 3tio_fw-la dialogorum_fw-la adversus_fw-la pelagianos_fw-la critobulo_fw-la sic_fw-la scribit_fw-la jerom_n also_o have_v speak_v of_o ambrose_n just_a before_o in_o his_o 3d_o book_n of_o dialogue_n against_o the_o pelagian_n write_v thus_o to_o critob_n tell_v i_o i_o pray_v and_o resolve_v the_o question_n why_o be_v infant_n baptize_v attic._n that_o their_o sin_n may_v be_v do_v away_o in_o baptism_n critob_n but_o what_o sin_n have_v they_o commit_v be_v any_o one_o loose_v that_o be_v not_o bind_v attic._n do_v thou_o ask_v i_o the_o question_n the_o evangelical_n trumpet_n or_o dr._n of_o the_o gentile_n that_o vessel_n that_o shine_v throughout_o all_o the_o world_n will_v answer_v thou_o death_n reign_v from_o adam_n unto_o moses_n even_o over_o they_o that_o have_v not_o sin_v after_o the_o manner_n of_o adam_n transgression_n which_o be_v the_o figure_n of_o he_o to_o come_v but_o all_o man_n be_v guilty_a either_o in_o respect_n of_o themselves_o or_o adam_n qui_fw-la parvulus_fw-la est_fw-la parentis_fw-la in_o baptismo_fw-la vinculo_fw-la solvitur_fw-la he_o that_o be_v a_o child_n be_v free_v in_o baptism_n from_o the_o bond_n of_o his_o parent_n that_o be_v original_a sin_n or_o guilt_n contract_v from_o they_o 2._o his_o second_o medium_fw-la or_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o adult_n baptism_n be_v only_o practise_v in_o the_o four_o century_n be_v the_o positive_a decree_n of_o the_o 3_o eminent_a council_n of_o this_o age_n viz_o the_o garthaginian_a laodicean_n and_o neocesarean_a which_o he_o say_v do_v positive_o decree_v that_o teach_v confession_n faith_n and_o free-choice_n ought_v to_o precede_v baptism_n we_o omit_v speak_v to_o these_o council_n for_o the_o present_a intend_v to_o do_v it_o in_o a_o more_o convenient_a place_n 3d_o argument_n that_o adult_n baptism_n be_v the_o only_o approve_a baptism_n of_o this_o age_n be_v his_o ten_o remarkable_a instance_n in_o this_o century_n that_o be_v not_o baptize_v though_o the_o child_n of_o christian_a parent_n till_o they_o be_v able_a to_o make_v profession_n of_o faith_n viz_o constantine_n basil_n gregory_n nazianzen_n ambrose_n chrysostom_n jerom_n austin_n nectarius_n valentinian_n and_o theodosius_n here_o mr._n danvers_n and_o other_o of_o his_o party_n as_o i_o hear_v triumph_v over_o i_o because_o in_o my_o answer_n i_o speak_v not_o to_o every_o one_o of_o these_o and_o beside_o i_o be_o upbraid_v by_o he_o for_o except_v only_o against_o 4_o of_o the_o ten_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n viz_o athanasius_n bazil_n ambrose_n and_o nazianzen_n who_o as_o i_o tell_v he_o in_o my_o answer_n be_v for_o infant_n baptism_n to_o which_o he_o reply_v 1._o that_o if_o but_o four_o of_o the_o ten_o be_v except_v against_o than_o he_o have_v six_o more_o stand_v good_a beside_o the_o former_a viz._n 15_o not_o except_v against_o as_o pervert_v but_o real_o i_o have_v endeavour_v to_o understand_v his_o 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between_o these_o two_o father_n that_o they_o have_v as_o it_o be_v but_o one_o soul_n nazianzen_n be_v call_v animae_fw-la bazilii_fw-la dimidium_fw-la the_o half_a of_o bazils_n soul_n if_o in_o they_o both_o say_v the_o magdiburgs_n there_o be_v not_o una_fw-la prorsus_fw-la atque_fw-la eadem_fw-la anima_fw-la they_o further_o tell_v we_o that_o from_o the_o time_n of_o their_o first_o acquaintance_n there_o be_v such_o a_o conjunctio_fw-la animorum_fw-la et_fw-la studiorum_fw-la such_o a_o conjunction_n of_o spirit_n and_o study_n that_o they_o continue_v in_o most_o entire_a friendship_n ever_o after_o cent._n 4._o c._n 10._o p._n 939_o 940._o 4._o we_o do_v not_o find_v that_o in_o any_o of_o their_o epistolary_a intercourse_n any_o thing_n that_o may_v argue_v they_o to_o be_v of_o different_a judgement_n in_o this_o point_n hence_o i_o suppose_v it_o may_v be_v rational_o conclude_v that_o as_o nazianzen_n be_v for_o baptism_n after_o preparation_n and_o confession_n and_o 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to_o sin_n