that_o err_v which_o be_v nothing_o else_o indeed_o but_o confuse_o in_o stead_n of_o put_v difference_n betwixt_o error_n and_o beresie_n to_o note_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o a_o man_n that_o err_v in_o simplicity_n and_o a_o heretic_n in_o deed_n because_o s._n paul_n say_v that_o a_o heretic_n be_v pervert_v and_o sin_v condemn_v of_o himself_o tit._n 3._o and_o that_o such_o cause_n offence_n and_o division_n contrary_a to_o the_o wholesome_a doctrine_n which_o we_o have_v learn_v rom._n 16._o we_o hold_v they_o not_o heretic_n unless_o they_o be_v convince_v and_o obstinate_o despise_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n convince_a they_o by_o the_o light_n of_o the_o word_n and_o seek_v to_o pervert_v other_o and_o to_o draw_v they_o into_o their_o faction_n but_o will_v it_o hereupon_o follow_v that_o no_o error_n be_v of_o itself_o a_o heresy_n unless_o it_o light_v into_o such_o a_o man_n as_o obstinate_o will_v hold_v and_o teach_v it_o or_o that_o every_o error_n even_o the_o least_o by_o obstinacy_n of_o man_n join_v with_o it_o become_v heresy_n then_o you_o say_v thus_o in_o effect_n every_o error_n be_v a_o heresy_n no_o error_n be_v a_o heresy_n this_o master_n barrow_n be_v your_o deep_a skill_n which_o you_o boast_v of_o that_o you_o have_v learn_v for_o if_o the_o man_n put_v the_o difference_n by_o his_o obstinacy_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v so_o then_o let_v i_o ask_v you_o where_o you_o have_v learned_a yâ—_z to_o deny_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o godhead_n be_v not_o a_o heresy_n or_o yâ—_z trinity_n of_o person_n in_o the_o same_o or_o to_o deny_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n or_o that_o he_o be_v man_n unless_o the_o man_n that_o err_v in_o they_o be_v convince_v and_o find_v obstinate_a be_v not_o these_o and_o such_o like_a heresy_n in_o themselves_o although_o the_o man_n that_o err_v in_o they_o be_v not_o convincement_o hold_v they_o ignorant_o again_o show_v we_o where_o you_o have_v â—â—â—rned_v that_o every_o error_n even_o to_o the_o least_o be_v in_o a_o heretic_n become_v a_o heresy_n thus_o may_v the_o reader_n see_v how_o confuse_o you_o have_v put_v that_o to_o distinguish_v error_n which_o do_v but_o distinguish_v between_o the_o man_n that_o do_v err_v in_o the_o next_o place_n where_o you_o say_v that_o the_o error_n must_v be_v due_o convince_v unto_o the_o conscience_n of_o the_o man_n that_o err_v before_o he_o can_v be_v so_o wilful_o obstinate_a as_o do_v separate_v he_o from_o the_o faith_n and_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o christ_n you_o speak_v some_o truth_n but_o you_o speak_v you_o know_v not_o what_o for_o it_o you_o can_v see_v it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o cléer_v you_o from_o presumptuous_a intrusion_n into_o god_n office_n that_o it_o utter_o overthrow_v you_o and_o your_o former_a word_n and_o somewhat_o which_o you_o write_v elsewhere_o in_o this_o book_n be_v lay_v with_o it_o become_v a_o very_a snare_n for_o to_o hold_v you_o you_o have_v accuse_v the_o church_n of_o england_n condemn_v and_o cast_v she_o forth_o for_o wilful_a obstinacy_n as_o quite_o separate_v from_o christ_n now_o let_v we_o see_v how_o due_o you_o have_v convince_v out_o whole_a church_n all_o the_o assembly_n and_o all_o the_o particular_a member_n in_o the_o same_o and_o find_v they_o heretic_n first_o remember_v your_o own_o word_n in_o this_o place_n that_o you_o doubt_v not_o neither_o ever_o think_v but_o that_o the_o best_a church_n which_o consist_v of_o mortal_a man_n may_v fall_v either_o of_o negligence_n or_o ignorance_n into_o grievous_a offence_n and_o dangerous_a error_n and_o that_o some_o famous_a church_n and_o christian_n may_v fall_v into_o such_o error_n as_o i_o term_v fundamental_a etc._n etc._n touch_v the_o fault_n which_o you_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o england_n withal_o in_o our_o worship_n in_o our_o people_n in_o our_o ministry_n and_o government_n ecclesiastical_a albeit_o in_o the_o whole_a course_n of_o your_o writing_n your_o speech_n be_v marvellous_a excessive_a yet_o in_o the_o 180_o 181_o 182._o page_n of_o this_o your_o book_n against_o i_o you_o plain_o confess_v they_o to_o be_v such_o as_o right_v excellent_a christian_n have_v ignorant_o err_v and_o dye_v in_o for_o speak_v of_o those_o which_o suffer_v death_n for_o religion_n in_o our_o church_n you_o call_v they_o godly_a martyr_n say_v that_o you_o doubt_v not_o of_o their_o happy_a and_o bless_a estate_n all_o their_o sin_n and_o these_o false_a office_n and_o ministry_n which_o they_o execute_v in_o their_o ignorance_n among_o the_o rest_n be_v forgive_v they_o these_o be_v your_o own_o word_n master_n barrow_n which_o i_o have_v set_v down_o you_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o be_v godly_a bless_a martyr_n they_o err_v you_o say_v in_o these_o thing_n but_o of_o simplicity_n through_o ignorance_n if_o those_o principal_a man_n be_v ignorant_a in_o these_o matter_n then_o be_v it_o no_o marvel_n if_o all_o the_o rest_n in_o the_o land_n be_v ignorant_a in_o they_o which_o embrace_v the_o gospel_n upon_o this_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v or_o may_v be_v a_o true_a church_n until_o such_o time_n as_o she_o be_v due_o convince_v of_o â—er_n error_n and_o find_v obstinate_a and_o if_o she_o have_v not_o be_v due_o convince_v and_o find_v in_o such_o wilful_a obstinacy_n as_o do_v quite_o separate_a from_o the_o faith_n and_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o christ_n then_o be_v she_o still_o or_o may_v be_v the_o true_a church_n have_v it_o may_v be_v for_o aught_o that_o you_o know_v and_o there_o be_v no_o likelihood_n to_o the_o contrary_a many_o thousand_o in_o she_o which_o be_v ready_a to_o shed_v their_o blood_n for_o the_o holy_a gospel_n of_o christ_n and_o then_o how_o wicked_a and_o how_o accurse_a be_v your_o presumption_n in_o condemn_v she_o utter_o nay_o say_v you_o but_o she_o be_v convince_v and_o all_o your_o assembly_n and_o find_v so_o wilful_o obstinate_a in_o maintain_v her_o error_n even_o against_o her_o knowledge_n that_o she_o have_v forfeit_v the_o covenant_n and_o be_v separate_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v your_o bare_a accusation_n you_o may_v not_o carry_v away_o the_o matter_n so_o for_o then_o indeed_o you_o may_v easy_o clear_v yourselves_o from_o wicked_a intrusion_n into_o god_n office_n but_o we_o must_v examine_v 〈◊〉_d you_o grant_v there_o must_v be_v a_o due_a convince_a first_o what_o it_o 〈…〉_o be_v due_o convince_v then_o when_o and_o by_o who_o she_o have_v be_v â—â—_o such_o sort_n or_o so_o due_o convince_v as_o you_o charge_v she_o and_o yet_o find_v obstinate_a this_o be_v the_o rule_n that_o one_o brother_n offend_v be_v not_o to_o loose_v the_o dignity_n and_o place_n of_o a_o christian_a and_o to_o be_v repute_v as_o a_o heathen_a until_o such_o time_n as_o he_o be_v convince_v by_o the_o church_n and_o find_v so_o obstinate_a that_o he_o do_v despise_v her_o judgement_n and_o authority_n this_o be_v the_o only_a due_a convince_a and_o here_o be_v the_o only_a power_n to_o east_n foâ—rth_o as_o heathen_a a_o man_n in_o some_o offence_n convince_v and_o shall_v not_o a_o church_n have_v as_o great_a privilege_n as_o a_o man_n be_v it_o not_o more_o then_o absurd_a to_o say_v one_o man_n can_v be_v cast_v forth_o as_o a_o heathen_a for_o obstinacy_n in_o some_o offence_n against_o private_a admonition_n but_o whole_a church_n may_v all_o the_o true_a church_n have_v convince_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o condemn_v she_o as_o obstinate_a not_o in_o some_o light_a offence_n in_o which_o true_a christian_n may_v err_v but_o as_o most_o blasphemous_a and_o idolatrous_a against_o the_o principle_n of_o faith_n and_o ground_n of_o religion_n teach_v that_o no_o christian_a man_n ought_v to_o join_v with_o she_o but_o what_o church_n be_v they_o which_o have_v convince_v the_o church_n of_o england_n of_o such_o error_n and_o find_v she_o so_o obstinate_a that_o they_o have_v condemn_v she_o and_o will_v all_o man_n to_o forsake_v she_o o_o m._n barrow_n you_o shall_v find_v that_o all_o the_o godly_a church_n be_v so_o far_o from_o this_o that_o contrariwise_o they_o acknowledge_v she_o for_o a_o sister_n look_v then_o again_o upon_o your_o horrible_a presumption_n and_o see_v who_o have_v give_v you_o such_o power_n above_o and_o against_o all_o church_n if_o you_o mind_n obstinate_o to_o persist_v in_o your_o evil_n without_o warrant_n and_o even_o against_o this_o manifest_a word_n of_o god_n be_v much_o better_a you_o shall_v fall_v down_o and_o bewail_v your_o ungodly_a way_n and_o seek_v for_o pardon_n you_o have_v no_o way_n to_o shift_v or_o to_o colour_v your_o wickedness_n but_o this_o that_o man_n may_v be_v convince_v of_o error_n by_o particular_a person_n and_o that_o so_o
servant_n &_o god_n witness_n &_o that_o the_o church_n and_o their_o minister_n do_v unchristianly_a revile_v they_o and_o their_o glorious_a suffering_n for_o i_o have_v give_v you_o none_o other_o term_n than_o the_o church_n give_v they_o and_o if_o in_o the_o chief_a point_n of_o donatisme_n you_o be_v not_o full_a donatist_n and_o so_o hold_v sundry_a point_n of_o annabaptisme_n be_v fall_v into_o their_o tent_n and_o as_o outrageous_o fight_v against_o all_o church_n and_o with_o the_o same_o weapon_n that_o they_o do_v and_o with_o as_o blind_a fury_n condemn_v they_o as_o those_o other_o let_v i_o be_v account_v for_o no_o better_a indeed_o than_o a_o lie_a prophet_n your_o word_n be_v many_o and_o great_a be_v your_o outcry_n but_o let_v we_o see_v how_o well_o you_o defend_v and_o clear_v yourselves_o by_o they_o from_o this_o most_o wicked_a intrusion_n into_o god_n office_n i_o set_v down_o first_o against_o you_o that_o he_o do_v wicked_o and_o proud_o thrust_v himself_o into_o god_n office_n which_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o judge_v and_o condemn_v any_o one_o man_n to_o be_v no_o true_a christian_n which_o hold_v the_o place_n and_o dignity_n of_o a_o brother_n in_o god_n church_n and_o profess_v the_o faith_n sound_o study_v to_o please_v god_n for_o the_o common_a error_n and_o frailty_n unto_o which_o even_o the_o most_o perfect_a be_v subject_a because_o the_o holy_a scripture_n speak_v of_o the_o regenerate_a have_v these_o say_n we_o know_v but_o in_o part_n 1._o cor._n 13._o who_o understand_v his_o error_n psal_n 19_o and_o in_o many_o thing_n we_o sin_v all_o i_o be_o 3._o then_o how_o much_o more_o intolerable_a be_v their_o wicked_a presumption_n and_o intrusion_n into_o god_n office_n which_o take_v upon_o they_o utter_o to_o condemn_v as_o quite_o separate_v from_o christ_n all_o the_o assembly_n in_o a_o kingdom_n which_o profess_v the_o gospel_n have_v many_o particular_a member_n in_o they_o that_o earnest_o endeavour_n to_o please_v god_n and_o be_v not_o spot_v with_o any_o gross_a error_n or_o notorious_a offence_n then_o further_o do_v i_o allege_v that_o as_o a_o brother_n have_v his_o place_n and_o dignity_n in_o a_o christian_a assembly_n so_o our_o church_n of_o england_n have_v her_o place_n and_o dignity_n among_o all_o the_o godly_a church_n which_o for_o the_o faith_n that_o she_o do_v together_o with_o they_o public_o profess_v and_o sincere_o in_o all_o the_o principle_n and_o ground_n of_o the_o holy_a christian_a religion_n do_v not_o only_o allow_v she_o the_o place_n but_o also_o do_v regard_n and_o love_v she_o give_v unto_o her_o the_o dignity_n of_o a_o sister_n yea_o even_o of_o a_o mother_n in_o israel_n because_o she_o have_v not_o be_v barren_a but_o have_v bring_v forth_o many_o dear_a child_n to_o god_n and_o not_o a_o few_o of_o they_o crown_v with_o martyrdom_n you_o have_v not_o master_n barrow_n answer_v one_o word_n unto_o all_o this_o but_o have_v with_o deep_a silence_n slip_v past_o it_o but_o you_o say_v he_o that_o be_v in_o his_o conscience_n convince_v of_o error_n and_o do_v persist_v in_o they_o be_v wilful_o obstinate_a and_o so_o evident_o declare_v that_o he_o have_v no_o faith_n and_o in_o this_o case_n you_o say_v be_v the_o church_n of_o england_n it_o hold_v error_n and_o be_v convince_v in_o they_o and_o yet_o persi_v to_o defend_v and_o teach_v the_o same_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v quite_o separate_v from_o christ_n against_o this_o i_o set_v down_o that_o a_o brother_n offend_v be_v not_o to_o be_v judge_v so_o wilful_o obstinate_a as_o that_o he_o be_v to_o be_v cast_v forth_o and_o condemn_v to_o be_v but_o as_o a_o heathen_a because_o he_o be_v convince_v of_o his_o sin_n and_o error_n by_o private_a admonition_n and_o do_v persist_v but_o when_o the_o admonition_n and_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v despise_v for_o our_o saviour_n say_v not_o if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v thou_o count_v he_o as_o a_o heathen_a or_o if_o thou_o take_v one_o or_o two_o with_o thou_o and_o â—e_n will_v not_o hear_v they_o but_o if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n then_o let_v he_o be_v unto_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a math._n 18._o this_o you_o have_v not_o answer_v for_o you_o can_v show_v no_o place_n in_o god_n word_n where_o this_o power_n be_v give_v to_o private_a man_n but_o only_o to_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o persist_v in_o this_o most_o horrible_a intrusion_n forget_v the_o precept_n judge_v not_o that_o you_o be_v not_o judge_v math_n 7._o and_o he_o that_o condemn_v his_o brother_n condemn_v the_o law_n and_o thou_o condemne_v the_o law_n thou_o be_v not_o a_o observer_n of_o the_o law_n but_o a_o judge_n jam._n 4._o vers_fw-la 11._o and_o therefore_o we_o must_v hear_v enter_v into_o a_o large_a discourse_n about_o it_o i_o will_v first_o sâ—t_v down_o that_o which_o you_o bring_v to_o maintain_v your_o do_v we_o doubt_v not_o say_v you_o neither_o ever_o think_v but_o the_o best_a church_n that_o consist_v of_o mortal_a man_n may_v fall_v either_o of_o negligence_n or_o ignorance_n into_o grievous_a offence_n and_o dangerous_a error_n yea_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o some_o famous_a church_n and_o christian_n may_v fall_v into_o such_o error_n as_o he_o term_v fundamental_a the_o hold_v whereof_o shall_v utter_o subvert_v the_o faith_n as_o in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n galatia_n and_o asia_n there_o be_v etc._n etc._n but_o this_o we_o hold_v withal_o that_o no_o true_a church_n or_o christian_n will_v maintain_v any_o sin_n or_o error_n when_o it_o be_v evident_o show_v and_o convince_v unto_o they_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n to_o your_o second_o charge_n we_o answer_v that_o we_o have_v learn_v to_o put_v difference_n betwixt_o error_n and_o heresy_n all_o good_a man_n as_o be_v say_v do_v and_o may_v err_v but_o no_o good_a man_n will_v defend_v or_o persist_v in_o his_o error_n when_o it_o be_v show_v and_o convince_v unto_o he_o obstinacy_n join_v unto_o error_n after_o it_o be_v due_o convince_v make_v heresy_n further_o we_o say_v that_o any_o error_n be_v obstinate_o hold_v and_o teach_v after_o it_o be_v due_o reproove_v and_o convince_v unto_o he_o make_v a_o heretic_n and_o heresy_n in_o that_o party_n or_o in_o that_o congregation_n that_o so_o hold_v and_o teach_v it_o do_v separate_v from_o the_o faith_n and_o communion_n of_o christ_n wherefore_o we_o can_v but_o wonder_v at_o your_o ignorance_n who_o stand_v for_o a_o teacher_n in_o your_o church_n and_o yet_o hold_v some_o error_n obstinate_o hold_v and_o teach_v against_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n not_o to_o be_v heresy_n or_o at_o the_o least_o not_o to_o be_v fundamental_a etc._n etc._n in_o these_o word_n master_n barrow_n which_o i_o doubt_v not_o you_o will_v acknowledge_v lie_v the_o whole_a defence_n and_o cléer_v of_o yourselves_o from_o that_o wicked_a and_o presumptuous_a intrusion_n into_o god_n office_n which_o i_o have_v lay_v to_o your_o charge_n i_o be_o sure_a that_o in_o your_o imagination_n you_o utter_v in_o they_o most_o divine_a &_o undoubted_a principle_n or_o else_o how_o can_v you_o bring_v in_o your_o conclusion_n of_o such_o wonder_n at_o my_o ignorance_n stand_v for_o a_o teacher_n in_o our_o church_n then_o must_v we_o stand_v and_o wonder_v each_o at_o other_o for_o i_o do_v indeed_o great_o wonder_v to_o see_v how_o strong_a the_o illusion_n of_o satan_n be_v when_o he_o be_v turn_v into_o the_o likeness_n of_o a_o angel_n of_o light_n that_o such_o man_n as_o you_o take_v upon_o you_o not_o to_o stand_v as_o teacher_n in_o some_o particular_a church_n but_o to_o control_v all_o church_n and_o all_o the_o learned_a teacher_n that_o have_v be_v since_o the_o apostle_n as_o if_o you_o be_v send_v from_o heaven_n with_o special_a knowledge_n above_o all_o other_o shall_v in_o so_o few_o word_n bewray_v so_o much_o confuse_v palpable_a ignorance_n and_o absurd_a error_n in_o very_a deed_n under_o this_o stream_n of_o word_n lie_v one_o of_o the_o chief_a rock_n upon_o which_o you_o be_v run_v and_o against_o which_o you_o cause_v many_o a_o simple_a soul_n to_o dash_v with_o great_a hazard_n lead_v they_o into_o the_o same_o wicked_a presumption_n against_o god_n which_o yourselves_o be_v fall_v into_o the_o reader_n shall_v see_v plain_o that_o here_o be_v no_o cléer_v yourselves_o from_o that_o foul_a intrusion_n into_o god_n office_n unless_o the_o heap_v up_o of_o error_n may_v be_v deem_v cléer_v i_o will_v begin_v first_o with_o the_o difference_n which_o you_o say_v you_o have_v learned_a to_o put_v betwixt_o error_n and_o heresy_n the_o only_a difference_n which_o you_o make_v be_v the_o obstinate_a persist_v in_o it_o and_o teach_v it_o after_o it_o be_v convince_v unto_o he_o
have_v the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v due_o convince_v it_o be_v out_o of_o all_o doubt_n that_o man_n which_o err_v may_v â—e_v convince_v by_o any_o particular_a person_n whatsoever_o for_o it_o be_v the_o power_n and_o light_n of_o god_n word_n only_o which_o convince_v but_o that_o which_o make_v man_n to_o be_v cast_v forth_o as_o heathen_a for_o obstinacy_n when_o they_o be_v convince_v be_v not_o as_o i_o have_v show_v obstinacy_n against_o pryvate_a admonition_n but_o the_o despise_v the_o judgement_n and_o power_n of_o the_o church_n when_o she_o have_v convince_v and_o reprove_v so_o that_o your_o passage_n be_v here_o again_o stop_v and_o you_o be_v cut_v off_o but_o yet_o i_o will_v follow_v you_o in_o this_o yield_v this_o scope_n to_o see_v when_o or_o who_o they_o be_v of_o particular_a person_n which_o have_v due_o convince_v the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o all_o her_o assembly_n of_o such_o error_n first_o for_o the_o martyr_n in_o our_o church_n you_o have_v set_v they_o upon_o the_o shore_n safe_o land_v out_o of_o all_o danger_n of_o wilful_a obstinacy_n for_o pag._n 181._o thus_o you_o write_v these_o godly_a martyr_n so_o late_o escape_v out_o of_o the_o smoky_a furnace_n of_o the_o popish_a church_n can_v not_o so_o clere_o discern_v and_o sudden_o enter_v into_o the_o heavenly_a and_o beautiful_a order_n of_o a_o true_a establish_a church_n and_o those_o godly_a man_n be_v so_o unexpert_a and_o unexercised_a in_o his_o heavenly_a work_n never_o have_v long_a live_v in_o see_v or_o hear_v of_o any_o orderly_a communion_n of_o saint_n any_o true_a establish_a church_n upon_o the_o earth_n of_o so_o many_o hundred_o year_n never_o since_o the_o general_a defection_n of_o antichrist_n no_o marvel_n i_o say_v if_o they_o err_v in_o set_v up_o the_o frame_n but_o what_o then_o shall_v we_o persist_v in_o their_o error_n especial_o shall_v we_o reject_v the_o true_a pattern_n of_o christ_n testament_n etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o be_v your_o word_n master_n barrow_n in_o which_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v that_o you_o have_v as_o i_o say_v land_v those_o godly_a man_n out_o of_o all_o danger_n which_o set_v up_o the_o frame_n of_o our_o church_n because_o they_o do_v as_o you_o say_v nay_o they_o can_v see_v no_o better_o but_o our_o church_n now_o can_v not_o be_v excuse_v because_o she_o have_v reject_v the_o heavenly_a pattern_n be_v bring_v indeed_o i_o be_o of_o this_o mind_n to_o answer_v your_o word_n as_o they_o lie_v that_o right_a excellent_a man_n come_v short_a in_o some_o thing_n about_o the_o order_n of_o god_n church_n and_o especial_o at_o the_o beginning_n because_o time_n be_v a_o teacher_n but_o those_o man_n be_v not_o so_o blind_a as_o you_o make_v they_o or_o so_o unexpert_a in_o the_o heavenly_a work_n many_o of_o they_o live_v long_o after_o they_o come_v out_o of_o popery_n they_o do_v read_v the_o scripture_n both_o for_o other_o point_n of_o doctrine_n and_o for_o the_o government_n and_o all_o the_o ancient_a history_n of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o my_o judgement_n may_v have_v bâ—en_o able_a in_o those_o day_n after_o twenty_o year_n separation_n from_o popery_n to_o see_v as_o much_o as_o some_o in_o these_o day_n that_o have_v be_v but_o four_o or_o fine_a year_n from_o the_o bowl_v alley_n again_o i_o be_o of_o this_o mind_n that_o when_o any_o error_n in_o the_o church_n appear_v it_o ought_v if_o it_o can_v be_v bring_v to_o pass_v to_o be_v reform_v and_o that_o they_o do_v greevous_o sin_n which_o reject_v the_o truth_n against_o their_o knowledge_n and_o conscience_n to_o the_o damage_n of_o god_n people_n but_o there_o lie_v the_o matter_n how_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o our_o church_n be_v convince_v we_o must_v see_v who_o they_o be_v that_o have_v lay_v this_o pattern_n which_o you_o speak_v of_o before_o she_o which_o be_v not_o lay_v before_o those_o bless_a martyr_n and_o convince_v here_o let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o matter_n in_o some_o ceremony_n and_z in_o the_o manner_n of_o government_n our_o church_n do_v differ_v from_o other_o church_n those_o church_n indeed_o have_v show_v their_o reason_n why_o they_o use_v not_o such_o ceremony_n and_o government_n but_o yet_o they_o condemn_v not_o our_o church_n for_o not_o be_v persuade_v by_o they_o for_o they_o do_v know_v that_o in_o some_o matter_n of_o controversy_n it_o fall_v out_o often_o that_o man_n may_v think_v they_o have_v truth_n and_o be_v deceive_v also_o that_o the_o truth_n may_v be_v show_v and_o yet_o man_n that_o err_v not_o convince_v in_o their_o conscience_n unto_o who_o it_o be_v show_v this_o be_v your_o great_a ignorance_n master_n barrow_n which_o imagine_v that_o so_o soon_o as_o a_o truth_n be_v show_v in_o any_o matter_n the_o party_n that_o err_v be_v by_o and_o by_o convince_a in_o his_o conscience_n there_o be_v thousand_o in_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n act._n 21._o which_o err_v gross_o about_o the_o retain_v the_o ceremonial_a law_n and_o the_o holy_a apostle_n be_v drive_v to_o bear_v with_o they_o when_o they_o can_v not_o persuade_v they_o from_o it_o and_o that_o many_o year_n and_o who_o can_v convince_v error_n like_o the_o bless_a apostle_n and_o you_o must_v consider_v here_o further_o that_o even_o those_o marryr_n in_o our_o church_n who_o you_o so_o full_o clear_a have_v the_o same_o pattern_n lay_v before_o they_o then_o which_o our_o church_n have_v have_v lay_v before_o she_o since_o for_o they_o do_v know_v that_o there_o be_v another_o form_n of_o government_n use_v at_o geneva_n and_o in_o some_o other_o place_n and_o they_o do_v not_o only_o read_v their_o writing_n which_o show_v the_o reason_n for_o the_o same_o but_o also_o some_o of_o they_o as_o bishop_n hooper_n and_o archdeacon_n philpot_n be_v traveller_n even_o to_o that_o end_n and_o purpose_n and_o live_v in_o some_o &_o do_v see_v if_o not_o all_o you_o some_o number_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n beyond_o the_o sea_n moreover_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o martyr_n have_v here_o among_o they_o out_o of_o diverse_a reform_a church_n as_o peter_n martyr_n bucer_n fagius_n alasco_n and_o other_o how_o ignorant_o then_o and_o how_o false_o master_n barrow_n do_v you_o affirm_v that_o those_o godly_a martyr_n have_v never_o live_v in_o see_v nor_o hear_v of_o any_o orderly_a communion_n of_o saint_n any_o true_a establish_a church_n if_o those_o martyr_n have_v the_o very_a same_o pattern_n lay_v before_o they_o which_o have_v be_v lay_v since_o before_o our_o church_n and_o be_v not_o convince_v peradunture_v you_o will_v say_v it_o be_v nothing_o so_o full_o and_o so_o clear_o bring_v and_o lay_v it_o before_o the_o martyr_n as_o it_o have_v be_v lay_v before_o our_o church_n then_o if_o i_o demand_v here_o who_o they_o be_v that_o have_v more_o full_o and_o more_o clear_o lay_v this_o pattern_n before_o our_o church_n and_o thus_o convince_v she_o whether_o yourselves_o alone_a or_o partly_o yourselves_o and_o partly_o other_o i_o suppose_v you_o will_v take_v it_o but_o in_o part_n unto_o yourselves_o let_v we_o then_o begin_v with_o these_o other_o and_o then_o come_v to_o you_o the_o church_n of_o england_n at_o the_o first_o as_o you_o confess_v set_v up_o the_o frame_n as_o they_o be_v persuade_v in_o conscience_n to_o be_v very_o right_a and_o agreeable_a to_o god_n word_n since_o that_o there_o have_v rise_v controversy_n at_o home_n about_o some_o ceremony_n and_o observation_n and_o about_o the_o government_n reason_n and_o allegation_n have_v be_v bring_v to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v hurtful_a thing_n amiss_o in_o both_o and_o many_o be_v persuade_v but_o now_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o england_n the_o prince_n and_o all_o those_o which_o excercise_n the_o chief_a power_n therein_o have_v stand_v and_o do_v stand_v resolute_a that_o the_o ceremony_n and_o observation_n be_v agreeable_a to_o god_n word_n or_o at_o the_o least_o not_o contrary_a but_o tolerable_a and_o that_o government_n be_v such_o as_o be_v by_o god_n word_n most_o fit_a and_o profitable_a for_o our_o church_n they_o stand_v upon_o their_o reason_n and_o allegation_n for_o this_o and_o many_o thousand_o in_o the_o land_n both_o man_n and_o woman_n which_o profess_v the_o gospel_n and_o faith_n of_o christ_n either_o know_v not_o what_o the_o thing_n in_o controversy_n or_o if_o they_o do_v know_v they_o yet_o be_v persuade_v that_o our_o worship_n and_o government_n be_v right_a tell_v i_o then_o m._n barrow_n see_v you_o confess_v the_o martyr_n be_v not_o convince_v how_o you_o know_v for_o certainty_n that_o all_o these_o be_v convince_v in_o their_o conscience_n because_o matter_n have_v be_v more_o full_o open_v and_o so_o continue_v wilful_o obstinate_a against_o the_o know_a truth_n have_v god_n give_v
be_v hereby_o manifest_a that_o sometime_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o in_o a_o visible_a church_n there_o be_v which_o maintain_v some_o error_n and_o it_o may_v be_v some_o of_o they_o convince_v in_o their_o conscience_n which_o yet_o be_v know_v for_o the_o most_o part_n but_o to_o god_n there_o be_v that_o err_v of_o ignorance_n and_o simplicity_n and_o there_o be_v that_o difallow_a the_o error_n now_o what_o warrant_n be_v there_o to_o wrap_v up_o all_o â—hefe_a together_o under_o the_o same_o condemnation_n and_o to_o say_v they_o be_v all_o separate_v from_o the_o faith_n and_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o christ_n the_o second_o error_n of_o the_o three_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v in_o this_o that_o you_o say_v obstinacy_n join_v with_o error_n in_o a_o man_n convince_v thereof_o in_o his_o conscience_n do_v separate_v from_o the_o faith_n and_o from_o the_o comunion_n of_o christ_n which_o to_o serve_v your_o turn_n against_o all_o our_o assembly_n must_v stand_v as_o i_o have_v before_o set_v it_o down_o i_o take_v it_o for_o a_o undoubted_a truth_n that_o there_o be_v no_o sound_a faith_n in_o that_o man_n which_o proud_o and_o with_o a_o full_a contempt_n of_o god_n and_o his_o truth_n do_v obstinate_o even_o convince_v in_o his_o conscience_n hold_v and_o teach_v a_o error_n but_o yet_o master_n barrow_n if_o you_o will_v stand_v to_o maintain_v that_o your_o speech_n you_o must_v shake_v hand_n with_o novatus_fw-la for_o there_o be_v as_o of_o other_o sin_n the_o remnant_n yea_o foul_a remnant_n of_o obstinacy_n and_o contempt_n of_o god_n and_o his_o truth_n in_o all_o the_o regenerate_a and_o sanctify_a whereupon_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o as_o godly_a man_n do_v fall_v into_o sundry_a know_a sin_n and_o willing_o according_a to_o the_o flesh_n yea_o sometime_o into_o the_o grosser_n and_o do_v continue_v in_o they_o which_o can_v be_v but_o with_o some_o wilful_a obstinacy_n and_o contempt_n against_o god_n as_o for_o example_n we_o have_v samson_n that_o live_v in_o fornication_n david_n that_o do_v commit_v adultery_n and_o murder_n solomon_n that_o fall_v into_o idolatry_n these_o do_v know_v they_o sin_v and_o nathan_n tell_v david_n thou_o have_v despise_v the_o lord_n thou_o have_v despise_v the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o also_o as_o it_o fall_v out_o in_o some_o that_o have_v faith_n that_o they_o fall_v into_o foul_a action_n and_o the_o remnant_n of_o obstinacy_n &_o wilful_a contempt_n be_v so_o strong_a in_o they_o and_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n lie_v in_o they_o as_o it_o be_v so_o bury_v that_o they_o not_o only_o despise_v private_a admonition_n but_o also_o for_o a_o time_n the_o judgement_n and_o public_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n as_o for_o example_n the_o man_n which_o take_v his_o mother_n in_o law_n to_o be_v his_o wife_n in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n he_o do_v know_v even_o by_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n that_o it_o be_v a_o foul_a sin_n and_o though_o the_o church_n neglect_v to_o cast_v he_o forth_o yet_o many_o no_o doubt_n do_v blame_v he_o notwithstanding_o he_o continue_v so_o obstinate_a that_o when_o saint_n paul_n have_v decree_v his_o excommunication_n he_o be_v cast_v forth_o this_o man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o his_o obstinacy_n have_v faith_n and_o be_v in_o christ_n as_o it_o appear_v by_o his_o repentance_n in_o the_o second_o epistle_n where_o saint_n paul_n will_v to_o receive_v he_o in_o again_o even_o so_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v in_o man_n regenerate_v who_o err_v in_o some_o opinion_n which_o be_v reprove_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n yet_o the_o remnant_n of_o obstinacy_n and_o froward_a contempt_n do_v make_v they_o either_o unwilling_a to_o see_v any_o thing_n against_o that_o which_o they_o have_v once_o hold_v and_o maintain_v or_o if_o they_o do_v see_v yet_o they_o will_v not_o yield_v now_o as_o it_o be_v a_o hard_a thing_n for_o we_o to_o find_v and_o know_v certain_o that_o a_o man_n be_v convince_v of_o a_o error_n in_o his_o conscience_n especial_o when_o it_o fall_v out_o in_o light_a matter_n which_o be_v not_o see_v clear_o disenss_v by_o the_o word_n though_o another_o man_n see_v it_o as_o he_o think_v plain_o so_o also_o be_v it_o most_o ungodly_a and_o without_o any_o warrant_n of_o god_n word_n to_o say_v when_o one_o indeed_o be_v convince_v and_o do_v not_o yield_v this_o man_n be_v separate_v from_o the_o faith_n and_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o christ_n for_o if_o great_a â—eâ—â—nants_n of_o wilful_a obstinacy_n can_v be_v in_o he_o that_o have_v faith_n than_o he_o that_o witting_o and_o willing_o according_a to_o the_o flesh_n fall_v into_o a_o gross_a sin_n be_v by_o and_o by_o separate_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o christ_n for_o if_o such_o contempt_n and_o wilful_a rebellion_n against_o god_n may_v stand_v one_o month_n or_o one_o year_n with_o faith_n what_o reason_n be_v there_o but_o that_o a_o man_n regenerate_v may_v lie_v in_o such_o security_n sundry_a year_n until_o the_o lord_n drive_v he_o out_o of_o it_o for_o god_n as_o a_o father_n do_v chastise_v his_o child_n for_o their_o wilful_a obstinacy_n contempt_n and_o rebellion_n and_o bring_v they_o to_o repentance_n in_o his_o good_a time_n you_o will_v say_v if_o they_o repent_v than_o you_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o be_v in_o christ_n but_o while_o they_o repent_v not_o how_o can_v a_o man_n be_v blame_v for_o say_v they_o have_v no_o faith_n you_o must_v know_v master_n barrow_n that_o a_o man_n be_v not_o in_o christ_n because_o he_o do_v repent_v but_o he_o repent_v because_o he_o be_v in_o christ_n for_o the_o beginning_n and_o proceed_v of_o repentance_n be_v all_o from_o christ_n crucify_v and_o only_o unto_o those_o that_o be_v in_o he_o rom._n 6._o 1._o pet._n 4._o 1_o 2._o again_o do_v not_o you_o know_v that_o he_o which_o be_v once_o heighten_v and_o have_v embrace_v the_o faith_n if_o he_o sin_v such_o a_o sin_n as_o do_v separate_v he_o from_o the_o faith_n and_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o christ_n he_o can_v never_o be_v restore_v again_o by_o repentance_n then_o see_v there_o be_v no_o man_n but_o sin_v willing_o and_o continue_v with_o some_o obstinacy_n in_o sundry_a thing_n how_o can_v you_o maintain_v this_o that_o every_o wilful_a obstinacy_n in_o error_n do_v separate_v from_o the_o faith_n and_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o christ_n but_o that_o you_o must_v with_o novatus_fw-la cut_v all_o the_o regenerate_v from_o the_o hope_n of_o repentance_n see_v all_o do_v transgress_v of_o knowledge_n your_o three_o error_n be_v in_o deny_v the_o distinction_n of_o error_n fundamental_a and_o not_o fundamental_a where_o you_o call_v it_o a_o papistical_a distinction_n and_o gather_v many_o absurdity_n most_o foolish_o in_o very_a deed_n and_o not_o so_o much_o as_o to_o be_v repeat_v because_o they_o arise_v from_o your_o ignorance_n for_o tell_v i_o master_n barrow_n christ_n be_v the_o foundation_n upon_o which_o all_o the_o faithful_a as_o live_a stone_n be_v build_v and_o grow_v together_o into_o a_o holy_a temple_n be_v there_o not_o error_n which_o if_o a_o man_n hold_v never_o so_o ignorantlie_o he_o be_v not_o in_o christ_n he_o hold_v not_o the_o foundation_n so_o long_o as_o he_o err_v in_o they_o he_o be_v not_o couple_v with_o the_o live_a stone_n to_o make_v one_o building_n and_o on_o the_o contrary_a bâ—_n there_o not_o error_n which_o the_o faithful_a do_v err_v in_o and_o be_v in_o christ_n this_o you_o can_v deny_v unless_o you_o will_v maintain_v the_o heresy_n of_o perfection_n in_o the_o regenerate_a but_o you_o say_v that_o with_o wilful_a obstinacy_n the_o least_o error_n caâ—â—eth_v a_o man_n out_o of_o christ_n alas_o poor_a man_n may_v not_o a_o child_n see_v your_o folly_n when_o you_o confess_v there_o be_v error_n that_o a_o man_n may_v err_v and_o die_v in_o and_o yet_o hold_v christ_n the_o foundation_n and_o so_o be_v save_v be_v it_o not_o as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v there_o be_v error_n that_o be_v not_o fundamental_a if_o a_o man_n be_v convince_v in_o they_o and_o hold_v they_o so_o obstinate_o that_o he_o be_v thereby_o separate_v from_o christ_n it_o be_v not_o any_o of_o those_o error_n which_o have_v separate_v he_o which_o you_o confess_v he_o may_v err_v in_o and_o yet_o have_v faith_n but_o his_o wicked_a obstinacy_n and_o contempt_n in_o hold_v and_o teach_v they_o against_o his_o conscience_n now_o therefore_o master_n barrow_n and_o master_n greenewod_n lâ—â—_n all_o those_o thing_n together_o which_o i_o have_v note_v touch_v your_o confuse_a ignorance_n error_n and_o absurdity_n and_o see_v whether_o you_o have_v bring_v any_o thing_n to_o clear_v yourselves_o from_o the_o fearful_a and_o odious_a yea_o most_o accurse_a presumption_n by_o which_o you_o take_v
thou_o that_o i_o may_v not_o cut_v thou_o off_o vers_fw-la 9_o it_o be_v too_o long_o to_o repeat_v all_o the_o scripture_n where_o the_o lord_n pronounce_v that_o he_o choose_v they_o for_o his_o own_o name_n sake_n that_o they_o deal_v unfaithful_o and_o yet_o he_o keep_v they_o as_o his_o people_n and_o forgive_v their_o iniquity_n even_o for_o himself_o you_o will_v say_v that_o god_n covenant_n be_v to_o the_o elect_a among_o they_o but_o the_o rest_n be_v not_o under_o the_o covenant_n nor_o the_o visible_a church_n this_o be_v your_o grievous_a blindness_n that_o you_o can_v see_v that_o many_o stand_v outward_o under_o the_o covenant_n and_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n which_o yet_o receive_v no_o benefit_n thereby_o be_v wicked_a even_o void_a of_o faith_n and_o for_o this_o cause_n although_o the_o great_a swarm_n of_o the_o israelite_n be_v wicked_a reprobate_n and_o as_o the_o prophet_n say_v but_o a_o remnant_n save_v yet_o for_o their_o outward_a profession_n the_o whole_a nation_n be_v ever_o say_v to_o stand_v under_o the_o covenant_n otherwise_o how_o can_v it_o be_v say_v that_o christ_n come_v among_o his_o own_o and_o his_o own_o receive_v he_o not_o joh._n 1._o how_o can_v these_o wicked_a infidel_n be_v call_v his_o own_o in_o any_o other_o respect_n but_o that_o they_o stand_v outward_o under_o the_o covenant_n and_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n and_o therefore_o when_o the_o body_n of_o that_o people_n shall_v stand_v no_o long_o under_o the_o covenant_n to_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n but_o as_o our_o saviour_n say_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n shall_v be_v take_v from_o they_o math._n 21._o the_o lord_n to_o show_v that_o he_o have_v still_o keep_v his_o covenant_n with_o they_o even_o until_o that_o time_n in_o which_o they_o now_o break_v off_o themselves_o and_o that_o he_o have_v give_v their_o mother_n no_o bill_n of_o divorce_n ask_v where_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n of_o their_o mother_n be_v by_o which_o he_o have_v put_v she_o away_o esay_n 50._o vers_fw-la 1._o the_o ten_o tribe_n which_o fall_v from_o the_o house_n of_o david_n and_o worship_v idol_n be_v yet_o in_o some_o sort_n even_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o they_o under_o the_o covenant_n and_o be_v so_o far_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o otherwise_o how_o shall_v the_o lord_n be_v call_v their_o god_n for_o when_o benhadab_n make_v war_n against_o achab_n and_o take_v the_o foil_n and_o his_o servant_n counsel_v he_o to_o enterprise_v the_o war_n again_o and_o to_o fight_v with_o they_o in_o the_o valley_n say_v that_o the_o god_n of_o israel_n be_v the_o god_n of_o the_o mountain_n the_o lord_n take_v it_o against_o himself_o and_o give_v they_o the_o overthrow_v the_o second_o time_n 1._o king_n 20._o achazias_n k._n of_o israel_n be_v sick_a upon_o a_o fall_n he_o have_v take_v send_v his_o messenger_n to_o inquire_v of_o baalzebub_n the_o god_n of_o ekron_n elias_n the_o prophet_n be_v send_v to_o meet_v they_o and_o to_o say_v be_v it_o not_o because_o there_o be_v no_o god_n in_o israel_n that_o you_o go_v to_o inquire_v of_o baalzebub_n the_o god_n of_o ekron_n 2._o king_n 1._o now_o for_o the_o place_n which_o you_o allege_v that_o they_o become_v not_o his_o people_n you_o do_v but_o pervert_v they_o for_o the_o song_n deuteron_n 32._o vers_fw-la 5._o if_o you_o will_v understand_v it_o so_o as_o you_o here_o apply_v it_o how_o shall_v they_o after_o be_v call_v his_o people_n and_o his_o servant_n in_o the_o same_o song_n vers_fw-la 36._o the_o brevity_n and_o the_o place_n of_o the_o word_n in_o that_o sentence_n do_v make_v it_o dark_a this_o be_v the_o sense_n that_o the_o perverse_a generation_n corrupt_v themselves_o by_o their_o own_o vice_n which_o be_v not_o of_o his_o child_n for_o the_o holiness_n of_o god_n child_n be_v from_o he_o but_o when_o they_o transgress_v and_o corrupt_v themselves_o it_o be_v from_o their_o own_o vice_n and_o he_o call_v all_o the_o whole_a people_n his_o son_n and_o daughter_n not_o in_o respect_n of_o some_o former_a estate_n as_o you_o vain_o imagine_v see_v that_o very_o few_o of_o they_o be_v his_o son_n and_o daughter_n indeed_o in_o their_o best_a estate_n but_o in_o respect_n that_o they_o stand_v outward_o under_o his_o covenant_n and_o profess_v his_o name_n and_o that_o the_o lord_n say_v yesterday_o which_o be_v my_o people_n be_v rise_v as_o a_o enemy_n mich._n 2._o vers_fw-la 8._o be_v not_o to_o show_v that_o they_o be_v now_o quite_o remoove_v and_o cast_v off_o by_o the_o lord_n from_o be_v under_o his_o covenant_n though_o the_o multitude_n be_v the_o church_n but_o in_o name_n but_o their_o hostility_n among_o themselves_o both_o in_o juda_n and_o israel_n the_o end_n which_o god_n say_v be_v come_v to_o his_o people_n amos._n 8._o be_v mean_v of_o their_o subversion_n and_o captivity_n will_v you_o say_v that_o they_o be_v never_o after_o nor_o no_o long_o god_n people_n if_o you_o dare_v not_o say_v this_o why_o do_v you_o allege_v that_o place_n you_o will_v have_v i_o show_v some_o place_n in_o the_o scripture_n where_o god_n make_v his_o covenaut_n without_o this_o condition_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v his_o people_n and_o obey_v he_o that_o be_v not_o the_o question_n master_n barrow_n but_o this_o whether_o when_o man_n break_v covenant_n and_o promise_n with_o god_n by_o disobey_v he_o who_o covenant_n yet_o they_o challenge_v his_o covenant_n be_v break_v and_o abrogate_a towards_o they_o and_o for_o this_o i_o show_v you_o the_o plain_a scripture_n psalm_n 89._o where_o the_o lord_n say_v if_o they_o shall_v for_o sake_n his_o law_n he_o will_v visit_v their_o offence_n or_o defection_n with_o the_o rod_n but_o he_o will_v not_o disannul_v his_o mercy_n towards_o they_o nor_o falsify_v his_o faith_n that_o he_o will_v not_o profane_v his_o covenaunt_n nor_o alter_v the_o thing_n which_o be_v go_v out_o of_o his_o lip_n master_n barrow_n what_o can_v be_v more_o express_a than_o this_o to_o show_v the_o stableness_n of_o god_n sovenant_n depend_v not_o upon_o our_o obedience_n or_o upon_o that_o condition_n which_o you_o speak_v of_o and_o say_v the_o covenant_n stand_v no_o long_a than_o they_o stand_v obedient_a why_o do_v you_o not_o answer_v this_o place_n but_o require_v still_o to_o have_v that_o show_v which_o be_v plain_o show_v you_o before_o solomon_n on_o his_o part_n break_v covenant_n with_o god_n will_v you_o say_v he_o do_v forfeit_v the_o covenant_n i_o conclude_v therefore_o with_o the_o say_n of_o saint_n paul_n where_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o jew_n what_o preferment_n they_o have_v above_o other_o what_o if_o some_o of_o they_o be_v unfaythfull_a shall_v their_o unbelief_n make_v the_o faith_n of_o god_n of_o none_o effect_v god_n for_o bid_v yea_o let_v god_n be_v true_a and_o every_o man_n a_o liar_n rom._n 4._o cease_v therefore_o master_n barrow_n to_o hang_v the_o stableness_n of_o god_n covenant_n upon_o the_o obedience_n of_o man_n and_o do_v not_o so_o perverse_o reason_n against_o the_o truth_n in_o affirm_v that_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n be_v disannul_v towards_o the_o jew_n not_o to_o stand_v as_o the_o visible_a church_n before_o such_o time_n as_o they_o have_v reject_v christ_n the_o next_o thing_n be_v that_o i_o say_v either_o we_o be_v within_o the_o covenant_n from_o our_o aucestor_n and_o have_v the_o seal_n thereof_o even_o baptism_n or_o else_o yourselves_o be_v without_o baptism_n and_o so_o must_v either_o with_o the_o catabaptist_n rebaptize_v or_o else_o hold_v the_o covenant_n without_o a_o seal_n neither_o of_o these_o you_o will_v do_v and_o yet_o stand_v in_o it_o that_o we_o have_v no_o true_a church_n nor_o true_a sacrament_n this_o therefore_o be_v your_o answer_n the_o israelite_n in_o their_o schism_n and_o the_o jew_n in_o their_o apostasy_n still_o have_v and_o use_v circumcision_n this_o circumcision_n be_v no_o true_a sacrament_n unto_o they_o neither_o seal_v the_o lord_n covenant_n unto_o they_o in_o that_o estate_n yet_o be_v this_o circumcision_n true_a circumcision_n concern_v the_o outward_a cut_n and_o be_v upon_o their_o repentance_n and_o return_n neither_o deface_v nor_o reiterate_v but_o they_o be_v restore_v to_o the_o temple_n and_o receive_v to_o the_o pasover_n in_o like_a manner_n in_o this_o general_a apostasy_n and_o defection_n from_o the_o gospel_n the_o baptism_n continue_v in_o these_o apostatical_a and_o false_a church_n can_v in_o this_o estate_n thus_o administer_v be_v say_v a_o true_a sacrament_n or_o seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n unto_o they_o yet_o concern_v the_o outward_a wash_n it_o be_v true_a baptism_n the_o outward_a action_n need_v not_o and_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v again_o repeat_v after_o the_o abuse_n thereof_o in_o the_o false_a church_n be_v purge_v away_o
the_o visible_a church_n this_o matter_n master_n barrow_n have_v be_v as_o thorough_o pursue_v by_o the_o papist_n as_o ever_o you_o or_o any_o donatist_n shall_v be_v able_a and_o such_o answer_n they_o have_v receive_v from_o the_o church_n that_o have_v make_v separation_n from_o they_o as_o that_o they_o have_v no_o cause_n to_o glory_n the_o ten_o tribe_n remain_v still_o in_o some_o sort_n the_o visible_a church_n and_o under_o the_o covenant_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v before_o but_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o such_o a_o true_a church_n as_o man_n may_v join_v withal_o in_o their_o worship_n and_o therefore_o when_o jeroboam_fw-la have_v set_v up_o the_o golden_a calf_n the_o levite_n depart_v from_o they_o and_o go_v to_o jerusalem_n 2._o chron_n 11._o 23._o 14._o then_o you_o come_v to_o expound_v how_o this_o may_v be_v take_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o first_o as_o you_o take_v it_o his_o sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n may_v be_v understand_v as_o in_o regard_n that_o he_o take_v his_o original_n before_o he_o be_v reveal_v let_v any_o simple_a man_n look_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o saint_n paul_n and_o see_v whether_o he_o speak_v of_o any_o such_o close_a sit_v then_o that_o he_o shall_v sit_v where_o sometime_o the_o true_a church_n have_v be_v which_o he_o shall_v so_o destroy_v and_o waste_v as_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o shape_n or_o step_n of_o any_o of_o they_o leave_v upon_o the_o earth_n as_o it_o be_v foretell_v matth._n 24_o 29._o revel_v 6._o 14._o see_v what_o two_o place_n master_n barrow_n have_v find_v to_o prove_v antichrist_n shall_v utter_o destroy_v the_o visible_a church_n these_o be_v the_o word_n and_o immediate_o after_o the_o oppression_n of_o those_o day_n the_o sun_n shall_v be_v darken_v &_o the_o moon_n shall_v not_o give_v her_o light_n and_o the_o star_n shall_v fall_v from_o heaven_n and_o the_o power_n of_o heaven_n shall_v be_v shake_v this_o be_v speak_v of_o christ_n come_v to_o judgement_n and_o be_v mean_v indeed_o of_o the_o sun_n the_o moon_n and_o star_n themselves_o and_o therefore_o most_o foolish_o conclude_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v utter_o destroy_v the_o visible_a church_n and_o for_o the_o place_n in_o the_o revelation_n the_o heaven_n depart_v away_o as_o a_o book_n that_o be_v role_v up_o you_o may_v even_o as_o well_o conclude_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o the_o world_n utter_o fail_v as_o to_o say_v therefore_o antichrist_n utter_o deface_v the_o visible_a church_n and_o if_o you_o will_v have_v the_o matter_n try_v by_o so_o dark_a a_o place_n your_o light_n have_v need_v to_o be_v great_a but_o your_o pretty_a reason_n of_o all_o be_v yet_o behind_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v lift_v up_o above_o all_o that_o be_v call_v god_n this_o can_v not_o be_v do_v by_o any_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n see_v every_o soul_n must_v be_v subject_a they_o say_v it_o will_v weary_v a_o old_a body_n to_o follow_v a_o child_n up_o and_o down_o all_o day_n that_o can_v new_a go_v i_o be_o sure_a it_o will_v weary_v any_o man_n to_o follow_v you_o master_n barrow_n in_o all_o your_o trifle_n god_n command_v every_o soul_n shall_v submit_v itself_o unto_o the_o high_a power_n do_v it_o here_o upon_o follow_v that_o if_o a_o king_n usurp_v that_o which_o belong_v to_o god_n they_o must_v therein_o â—â—ay_v he_o so_o long_o as_o he_o remain_v their_o king_n also_o when_o it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o be_v god_n you_o say_v what_o blasphemy_n will_v not_o ensue_v if_o this_o shall_v be_v literal_o take_v it_o may_v as_o well_o be_v enforce_v say_v you_o by_o this_o place_n that_o antichrist_n be_v god_n as_o that_o the_o place_n where_o he_o reign_v be_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n you_o will_v not_o have_v this_o place_n expound_v literal_o and_o then_o what_o shall_v we_o make_v of_o it_o or_o how_o shall_v we_o find_v antichrist_n may_v he_o not_o be_v the_o turk_n or_o some_o other_o if_o the_o papist_n can_v prove_v yâ—_z which_o you_o speak_v but_o with_o some_o little_a show_n how_o much_o will_v they_o glory_v for_o grant_v they_o a_o mystical_a sense_n of_o these_o word_n and_o they_o will_v carry_v it_o whither_o they_o listen_v to_o exalt_v himself_o above_o all_o that_o be_v call_v god_n be_v literal_o speak_v and_o literal_o fulfil_v when_o the_o pope_n exalt_v himself_o above_o all_o king_n and_o emperor_n which_o be_v call_v go_n so_o that_o he_o shall_v sit_v as_o god_n in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n show_v himself_o that_o he_o be_v god_n what_o blasphemy_n be_v it_o which_o will_v ensue_v if_o these_o word_n be_v all_o construe_v literal_o after_o the_o grammatical_a sense_n the_o word_n do_v not_o import_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v god_n indeed_o but_o that_o he_o shall_v take_v that_o to_o himself_o which_o belong_v to_o the_o most_o high_a god_n the_o thing_n which_o deceive_v you_o master_n barrow_n be_v in_o the_o word_n show_v for_o every_o thing_n that_o a_o show_n be_v make_v of_o be_v not_o so_o in_o truth_n there_o be_v a_o true_a show_n and_o there_o be_v a_o false_a show_n when_o one_o do_v arrogate_v that_o to_o himself_o and_o bâ—ast_v of_o it_o which_o belong_v not_o unto_o he_o as_o antichrist_n usurp_v not_o only_o a_o earthly_a dignity_n but_o even_o the_o high_a power_n and_o authority_n of_o god_n be_v therefore_o say_v to_o show_v himself_o to_o be_v god_n and_o now_o whereas_o i_o stand_v upon_o this_o that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v a_o true_a church_n of_o god_n before_o popery_n and_o that_o in_o popery_n it_o stand_v a_o member_n or_o part_n of_o the_o universal_a visible_a church_n for_n far_o as_o the_o remnant_n of_o christ_n church_n remain_v not_o utter_o deface_v by_o antichrist_n &_o that_o the_o cast_v out_o of_o antichrist_n and_o his_o law_n and_o usurp_a power_n be_v not_o the_o beginning_n but_o the_o restore_n and_o repair_v or_o recover_v a_o church_n from_o miserable_a desolation_n and_o as_o josias_n and_o other_o godly_a king_n of_o juda_n by_o terror_n of_o punishment_n drive_v idolater_n which_o outward_o stand_v under_o the_o covenant_n be_v cyrcumcise_v from_o false_a worship_n unto_o the_o law_n of_o god_n so_o queen_n elizabeth_n have_v do_v with_o her_o subject_n be_v baptize_v and_o thereby_o bind_v to_o renounce_v false_a worship_n and_o to_o embrace_v the_o holy_a doctrine_n of_o the_o covenant_n here_o you_o say_v that_o to_o make_v my_o conclusion_n follow_v i_o must_v prove_v and_o make_v evident_a demonstration_n by_o scripture_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v right_o gather_v unto_o and_o establish_v in_o that_o holy_a faith_n and_o order_n which_o christ_n have_v leave_v unto_o his_o church_n in_o universal_a and_o particular_a according_a to_o the_o rule_n and_o example_n in_o his_o testament_n next_o that_o they_o fall_v not_o away_o from_o this_o holy_a faith_n in_o the_o time_n of_o popery_n and_o that_o now_o they_o continue_v and_o faithful_o walk_v in_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o order_n if_o i_o have_v do_v this_o you_o say_v i_o have_v powerful_o convince_v and_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o all_o schismatic_n for_o ever_o i_o see_v you_o can_v make_v your_o mach_v wise_o master_n barrow_n i_o must_v make_v evident_a demonstration_n by_o the_o scripture_n of_o what_o of_o that_o which_o be_v not_o mention_v by_o the_o scripture_n for_o there_o be_v no_o particular_a mention_n of_o plant_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n in_o england_n if_o we_o show_v it_o out_o of_o ancient_a record_n then_o do_v i_o not_o saâ—ilfie_v your_o desire_n at_o all_o again_o it_o must_v be_v show_v by_o the_o scripture_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n receive_v orderly_o the_o faith_n and_o order_n of_o christ_n not_o only_o in_o general_n but_o in_o every_o particular_a this_o be_v a_o sure_a knot_n than_o the_o former_a and_o i_o think_v you_o shall_v be_v a_o little_a more_o kind_a for_o the_o honour_n of_o your_o country_n not_o that_o any_o honour_n be_v to_o be_v render_v against_o truth_n but_o whereas_o you_o confess_v that_o a_o true_a church_n may_v err_v in_o diverse_a thing_n so_o that_o it_o be_v not_o convince_v &_o sin_n obstinate_o if_o the_o planter_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o discipline_n of_o christ_n in_o england_n do_v err_v it_o some_o thing_n which_o yet_o you_o know_v not_o how_o can_v you_o tell_v but_o that_o they_o do_v it_o in_o simplicity_n we_o see_v that_o in_o ancient_a time_n and_o of_o late_a day_n god_n have_v have_v many_o child_n in_o england_n which_o have_v be_v beget_v and_o nourish_v up_o in_o the_o land_n and_o have_v acknowledge_v she_o their_o mother_n and_o we_o be_v sure_o hereupon_o that_o god_n have_v put_v his_o covenant_n of_o mercy_n
themselves_o to_o the_o priest_n luk._n 17._o 14._o which_o be_v also_o to_o offer_v according_a to_o the_o law_n and_o this_o be_v not_o long_o before_o he_o suffer_v you_o do_v very_o fond_o imagine_v the_o if_o the_o priest_n the_o scribes_z and_o pharisy_n and_o saducee_n and_o the_o multitude_n which_o cleave_v unto_o they_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n than_o be_v there_o two_o church_n unless_o we_o will_v deny_v that_o our_o saviour_n &_o his_o disciple_n be_v the_o church_n for_o at_o yâ—_z time_n they_o be_v all_o in_o the_o same_o visible_a church_n even_o those_o open_a wicked_a and_o the_o good_a our_o saviour_n do_v reprehend_v they_o and_o lay_v open_v their_o wickedness_n to_o the_o end_n that_o man_n may_v beware_v and_o not_o be_v seduce_v and_o keep_v from_o truth_n by_o they_o but_o why_o be_v they_o not_o cast_v forth_o the_o prophet_n in_o old_a time_n do_v sharp_o reprehend_v the_o wicked_a of_o all_o sort_n in_o the_o church_n but_o they_o have_v not_o the_o ordinary_a power_n to_o execute_v the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n no_o more_o have_v our_o saviour_n himself_o there_o be_v diverse_a testimony_n and_o example_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o i_o allege_v to_o prove_v this_o thing_n which_o you_o knit_v up_o short_a but_o in_o your_o other_o book_n you_o deal_v in_o they_o at_o large_a and_o because_o master_n caluine_n have_v write_v strong_o and_o plentiful_o in_o these_o matter_n against_o the_o annabaptist_n and_o such_o as_o most_o wicked_o do_v condemn_v the_o church_n in_o his_o time_n you_o take_v upon_o you_o to_o confute_v he_o as_o if_o he_o be_v the_o author_n of_o these_o thing_n and_o you_o term_v we_o his_o wretched_a disciple_n whereas_o in_o very_a deed_n m._n caluine_n follow_v but_o the_o step_n of_o the_o ancient_a writer_n augustine_n and_o the_o rest_n against_o the_o catharist_n and_o donatist_n and_o you_o light_v into_o their_o tent_n set_v very_o fresh_o upon_o the_o work_n even_o as_o a_o chief_a captain_n to_o repair_v and_o fortify_v the_o ruin_n of_o that_o ancient_a catharisme_n and_o donatisme_n and_o yet_o can_v bring_v nothing_o which_o they_o bring_v not_o touch_v the_o reformation_n by_o prince_n which_o compel_v their_o subject_n that_o profess_v christ_n and_o have_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n to_o forsake_v idolatry_n and_o to_o embrace_v the_o holy_a word_n and_o sacrament_n i_o have_v speak_v before_o and_o therefore_o i_o come_v to_o the_o 17._o page_n of_o your_o book_n where_o you_o write_v after_o this_o sort_n the_o next_o shift_n these_o balaamity_n have_v for_o the_o aministr_a unto_o and_o communicate_v with_o and_o retain_v the_o profane_a in_o the_o bosom_n of_o their_o church_n be_v certain_a argument_n draw_v by_o master_n caluine_n from_o matth._n 13._o against_o the_o annabaptist_n compare_v the_o church_n to_o a_o corn_n field_n where_o the_o good_a seed_n and_o the_o bad_a grow_v together_o to_o a_o net_n and_o in_o matth._n 3._o to_o a_o floar_n where_o the_o corn_n and_o the_o chaffelye_v together_o in_o deed_n master_n barrow_n these_o be_v special_a place_n which_o the_o ancient_a father_n stand_v upon_o against_o the_o donatist_n and_o master_n caluine_n against_o the_o annabaptist_n and_o which_o we_o in_o as_o great_a right_n urge_v against_o you_o and_o your_o sect_n if_o we_o be_v balaamite_n than_o what_o be_v master_n caluine_n what_o be_v augustine_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n against_o who_o have_v you_o pour_v forth_o your_o rail_n take_v heed_n it_o be_v not_o against_o our_o lord_n jesus_n himself_o be_v against_o his_o express_a word_n for_o let_v we_o see_v how_o you_o can_v avoid_v these_o place_n touch_v the_o parable_n of_o the_o seed_n you_o oppose_v as_o you_o say_v against_o master_n caluine_n and_o his_o disciple_n first_o the_o interpretation_n of_o our_o saviour_n himself_o who_o say_v not_o that_o the_o field_n be_v the_o church_n but_o the_o field_n be_v the_o world_n and_o so_o the_o good_a seed_n and_o the_o bad_a be_v together_o in_o the_o world_n but_o not_o in_o the_o church_n and_o then_o you_o show_v a_o absurdity_n of_o flat_a contradiction_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o will_v follow_v if_o we_o take_v it_o that_o the_o good_a seed_n and_o the_o bad_a shall_v grow_v together_o in_o the_o church_n the_o contradiction_n be_v this_o there_o be_v power_n and_o commandment_n give_v to_o the_o church_n to_o cast_v forth_o the_o open_a wicked_a and_o here_o he_o bid_v let_v they_o alone_o therefore_o this_o let_v they_o alone_o let_v they_o grow_v together_o until_o the_o harvest_n must_v needs_o be_v expound_v let_v they_o alone_o and_o let_v they_o grow_v together_o in_o the_o world_n but_o not_o in_o the_o church_n in_o deed_n your_o exposition_n master_n barrow_n be_v the_o very_a same_o which_o the_o donatist_n made_n and_o obstinate_o stand_v upon_o the_o field_n be_v the_o world_n our_o saviour_n have_v say_v it_o the_o truth_n have_v say_v it_o accurse_a be_v he_o that_o shall_v gainsay_v it_o but_o to_o gather_v from_o hence_o that_o the_o good_a seed_n and_o the_o bad_a shall_v not_o be_v together_o in_o the_o church_n but_o in_o the_o world_n be_v direct_o to_o overthrow_v the_o whole_a parable_n for_o first_o what_o be_v it_o which_o be_v resemble_v or_o liken_v the_o word_n be_v plain_a it_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n say_v he_o be_v like_a etc._n etc._n what_o be_v it_o which_o be_v here_o call_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v the_o world_n so_o call_v who_o dare_v say_v so_o it_o be_v the_o church_n in_o which_o there_o be_v the_o gospel_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o in_o which_o christ_n do_v reign_v if_o our_o saviour_n have_v mean_v to_o sec_fw-la forth_o and_o to_o resemble_v the_o state_n of_o the_o world_n by_o the_o good_a seed_n and_o the_o bad_a mingle_v together_o as_o he_o say_v the_o enemy_n do_v sow_v the_o tare_n ana_fw-la mesâ—_n thou_fw-mi sitou_fw-mi in_o the_o midst_n or_o among_o the_o wheat_n and_o that_o they_o grow_v up_o together_o or_o to_o say_v look_v how_o in_o a_o field_n good_a seed_n and_o bad_a grow_v together_o so_o in_o the_o world_n good_a man_n and_o bad_a it_o can_v not_o then_o be_v say_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v like_a but_o the_o state_n of_o the_o world_n be_v like_a be_v it_o ever_o hear_v of_o that_o a_o man_n will_v expound_v a_o parable_n that_o be_v a_o similitude_n and_o exclude_v that_o which_o be_v resemble_v by_o the_o similitude_n for_o if_o the_o good_a seed_n and_o the_o bad_a sow_v and_o grow_v together_o in_o the_o field_n do_v not_o resemble_v and_o set_v forth_o the_o state_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n while_o it_o be_v also_o in_o the_o field_n that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o this_o world_n mingle_v of_o good_a and_o bad_a man_n show_v what_o there_o be_v in_o the_o whole_a parable_n whereunto_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v liken_v moreover_o in_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o parable_n our_o saviour_n say_v as_o the_o tare_n be_v gather_v and_o burn_v so_o shall_v it_o be_v in_o the_o end_n of_o this_o world_n the_o son_n of_o man_n shall_v send_v his_o angel_n which_o shall_v gather_v out_o of_o his_o kingdom_n all_o offence_n and_o those_o which_o work_n iniquity_n etc._n etc._n if_o they_o shall_v be_v gather_v out_o of_o his_o kingdom_n which_o be_v his_o church_n peculiarly_a so_o call_v though_o he_o be_v lord_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n then_o be_v they_o until_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n in_o his_o church_n i_o doubt_v not_o master_n barrow_n but_o that_o simple_a man_n yea_o poor_a child_n look_v upon_o this_o parable_n and_o consider_v what_o it_o be_v liken_v and_o how_o christ_n do_v expound_v it_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o see_v what_o a_o spirit_n of_o giddiness_n god_n have_v in_o judgement_n cast_v upon_o you_o for_o the_o loftiness_n of_o your_o mind_n and_o now_o for_o that_o absurdity_n of_o flat_a cóntradiction_n in_o the_o scripture_n which_o you_o imagine_v if_o we_o expound_v it_o that_o the_o good_a and_o the_o bad_a shall_v be_v mingle_v in_o the_o church_n so_o long_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o field_n there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o i_o will_v show_v by_o as_o great_a a_o absurdity_n which_o will_v follow_v of_o that_o sense_n which_o you_o give_v for_o speak_v of_o the_o wicked_a in_o the_o church_n if_o he_o shall_v say_v let_v they_o alone_o it_o will_v overthrow_v the_o censure_n ecclesiastical_a which_o be_v express_o command_v then_o speak_v of_o the_o wicked_a in_o the_o world_n and_o say_v let_v they_o alone_o let_v they_o grow_v together_o lest_o you_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n it_o shall_v overthrow_v the_o power_n of_o king_n and_o ruler_n in_o put_v evil_a doer_n to_o
you_o some_o special_a revelation_n or_o do_v you_o know_v the_o secret_n of_o all_o man_n heart_n you_o see_v by_o the_o church_n in_o jerusalem_fw-la that_o man_n may_v ignorant_o remain_v still_o in_o error_n if_o the_o bless_a apostle_n themselves_o shall_v lay_v down_o matter_n against_o the_o same_o unto_o they_o but_o to_o convince_v you_o i_o may_v reason_v from_o your_o own_o word_n for_o master_n barrow_n if_o that_o be_v true_a which_o you_o hold_v touch_v government_n ecclesiastical_a which_o be_v the_o chief_a matter_n in_o question_n the_o church_n of_o england_n can_v be_v convince_v by_o that_o which_o either_o our_o own_o or_o man_n of_o other_o church_n have_v set_v forth_o we_o have_v be_v persuade_v that_o the_o government_n ecclesiastical_a ought_v to_o be_v by_o one_o of_o these_o two_o that_o be_v to_o say_v either_o by_o bishop_n or_o by_o presbytery_n and_o you_o condemn_v both_o the_o government_n by_o bishop_n you_o term_v antichristian_a and_o of_o those_o which_o stand_v for_o a_o government_n by_o presbytery_n thus_o you_o write_v pag._n 189._o of_o your_o other_o book_n these_o man_n will_v bring_v in_o a_o new_a adulterate_a forge_a government_n in_o show_n or_o rather_o in_o despite_n of_o christ_n bless_a government_n which_o they_o in_o their_o pride_n rashness_n ignorance_n and_o sensuality_n of_o their_o fleshly_a heart_n most_o miserable_o innonâ—ate_v corrupt_a and_o pervert_v also_o in_o the_o pag._n 166._o you_o term_v it_o a_o devilish_a forgery_n in_o this_o book_n against_o i_o you_o call_v it_o a_o presumptuous_a 〈…〉_o you_o say_v it_o have_v no_o ground_n in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o utter_o subvert_v the_o whole_a order_n and_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 79._o be_v it_o so_o master_n barrow_n then_o how_o have_v our_o church_n be_v convince_v in_o conscience_n by_o those_o which_o bring_v no_o warrant_n of_o god_n word_n for_o that_o which_o they_o will_v set_v up_o be_v undoubted_o persuade_v as_o i_o have_v say_v that_o one_o of_o the_o two_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o three_o as_o yet_o not_o have_v be_v show_v how_o have_v they_o i_o say_v by_o your_o speech_n be_v so_o due_o convince_v and_o further_o it_o may_v be_v say_v which_o be_v of_o great_a force_n against_o you_o that_o if_o all_o the_o learned_a man_n in_o other_o church_n and_o those_o in_o our_o church_n which_o stand_v for_o the_o government_n by_o presbytery_n have_v erreâ—_n so_o grofe_o as_o you_o accuse_v they_o why_o may_v not_o they_o that_o maintain_v the_o other_o government_n err_v also_o of_o ignorance_n master_n barrow_n these_o poor_a shift_n will_v not_o defend_v you_o before_o god_n but_o that_o you_o have_v intrude_v into_o his_o seat_n unless_o you_o have_v sure_a ground_n that_o all_o be_v convince_v for_o what_o if_o some_o shall_v be_v convince_v in_o some_o matter_n yet_o when_o they_o protest_v the_o contrary_a who_o can_v judge_v they_o but_o god_n and_o now_o see_v it_o have_v not_o be_v do_v by_o these_o therefore_o it_o rest_v only_o upon_o yourselves_o let_v we_o come_v to_o see_v what_o you_o have_v do_v it_o can_v be_v but_o you_o have_v convince_v all_o you_o have_v open_v so_o many_o matter_n yea_o but_o before_o your_o matter_n come_v to_o the_o sight_n and_o knowledge_n of_o the_o thousand_o man_n i_o may_v say_v almost_o to_o the_o sight_n of_o any_o you_o have_v abandon_v and_o condemn_v all_o without_o any_o order_n what_o a_o convince_a be_v this_o and_o when_o they_o be_v come_v abroad_o i_o mean_v your_o writing_n though_o not_o unto_o the_o hand_n of_o all_o nor_o yet_o of_o the_o great_a part_n we_o must_v upon_o your_o bare_a word_n contrary_a to_o our_o own_o knowledge_n admit_v many_o foul_a and_o false_a accusation_n we_o must_v upon_o your_o warrant_n allow_v many_o fantastical_a opinion_n we_o must_v condemn_v all_o the_o church_n and_o justify_v the_o donatist_n and_o annabaptist_n or_o else_o we_o can_v he_o by_o you_o convince_v your_o outrageous_a deal_v be_v such_o as_o almost_o have_v not_o be_v see_v which_o shall_v appear_v by_o lay_v open_a somewhat_o of_o your_o book_n and_o your_o gross_a error_n with_o palpable_a ignorance_n to_o be_v wonder_v at_o even_o of_o the_o unlearned_a how_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o god_n have_v send_v you_o as_o it_o be_v great_a apostle_n to_o convince_v and_o to_o refor_o i_o all_o you_o say_v christ_n have_v send_v you_o but_o in_o very_a deed_n satan_n in_o the_o likeness_n of_o a_o angel_n of_o light_n have_v most_o miserable_o seduce_v you_o you_o say_v often_o that_o many_o in_o our_o church_n have_v be_v and_o be_v persuade_v that_o there_o be_v many_o fault_n and_o â—or_a not_o these_o then_o sin_n against_o their_o conscience_n in_o as_o much_o as_o they_o join_v still_o with_o it_o master_n barrow_n it_o be_v a_o foul_a heretical_a opinion_n to_o hold_v that_o a_o man_n may_v not_o join_v with_o that_o church_n which_o hold_v and_o maintain_v some_o fault_n and_o error_n do_v the_o holy_a apostle_n refuse_v to_o join_v with_o the_o multitude_n in_o jerusalem_n which_o hold_v the_o ceremony_n do_v not_o s._n paul_n labour_n in_o diverse_a place_n to_o join_v they_o together_o in_o peace_n which_o in_o some_o matter_n hold_v and_o continue_v in_o diverse_a judgement_n read_v the_o rom._n 14._o and_o 15._o for_o this_o point_n thus_o much_o may_v suffice_v to_o show_v your_o horrible_a and_o inexcusable_a presumption_n contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n in_o condemn_v as_o quit_v separate_v from_o christ_n the_o whole_a church_n in_o the_o land_n all_o particular_a assembly_n and_o all_o several_a person_n both_o young_a and_o old_a man_n and_o woman_n in_o the_o same_o who_o yet_o you_o have_v never_o see_v much_o less_o admonish_v and_o convince_v but_o that_o your_o word_n which_o yet_o remain_v untouched_a i_o mean_v of_o those_o which_o i_o set_v down_o do_v draw_v i_o further_o there_o be_v three_o thing_n yet_o remain_v in_o your_o former_a word_n in_o which_o you_o err_v foul_o whereby_o all_o man_n shall_v see_v how_o far_o off_o you_o be_v from_o make_v any_o just_a defence_n of_o your_o ungodly_a presumption_n and_o yourselves_o shall_v know_v if_o the_o lord_n open_v your_o heart_n that_o it_o be_v but_o a_o thick_a cover_n of_o darkness_n and_o ignorance_n â—nder_v which_o you_o lie_v shroud_v and_o as_o you_o imagine_v shield_v from_o the_o sin_n and_o from_o the_o danger_n of_o intrusion_n into_o god_n office_n when_o you_o condemn_v as_o heathen_a and_o infidel_n all_o our_o assembly_n the_o first_o of_o the_o three_o and_o the_o second_o also_o be_v in_o these_o word_n when_o you_o say_v and_o heresy_n in_o that_o man_n or_o in_o that_o congregation_n thatso_n hold_v &_o teach_v it_o do_v separate_v from_o the_o faith_n etc._n etc._n thus_o you_o reason_n if_o a_o man_n be_v in_o a_o error_n and_o be_v due_o convince_v and_o find_v obstinate_a so_o that_o he_o obstinate_o persist_v in_o and_o teach_v his_o error_n even_o against_o his_o conscience_n we_o may_v safe_o judge_v that_o man_n to_o have_v no_o faith_n nor_o communion_n with_o christ_n the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v say_v of_o a_o congregation_n and_o so_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o england_n and_o of_o all_o the_o assembly_n therein_o and_o of_o all_o particular_a member_n of_o the_o same_o be_v all_o in_o one_o estate_n and_o condition_n that_o be_v to_o say_v due_o convince_v and_o find_v obstinate_a how_o far_o we_o may_v proceed_v in_o judge_v a_o man_n void_a of_o faith_n for_o obstinacy_n we_o shall_v see_v in_o the_o next_o placeâ—_n here_o i_o begin_v with_o and_o note_v how_o blind_o and_o how_o absurd_o in_o your_o consequence_n of_o be_v convince_v you_o compare_v a_o church_n and_o one_o man_n together_o for_o a_o man_n err_v and_o his_o error_n reprove_v either_o the_o whole_a man_n be_v convince_v and_o be_v obstinate_a or_o else_o the_o whole_a man_n err_v still_o in_o iguorance_n but_o it_o be_v far_o otherwise_o in_o a_o visible_a church_n because_o in_o it_o there_o be_v sundry_a sort_n of_o member_n which_o may_v not_o be_v all_o fold_v up_o together_o 〈◊〉_d one_o sentence_n for_o look_v upon_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o israel_n at_o such_o time_n as_o our_o saviour_n be_v bear_v &_o live_v upon_o the_o earth_n and_o we_o shall_v see_v there_o be_v in_o it_o excellent_a godly_a one_o as_o the_o bless_a virgin_n the_o father_n and_o mother_n of_o john_n the_o baptist_n anna_n the_o prophetisse_n old_a symeon_n and_o many_o other_o there_o be_v heap_n of_o ignorant_a people_n call_v the_o lose_a sheep_n of_o the_o house_n of_o israel_n math._n 10._o and_o there_o be_v the_o scribe_n and_o pharisy_n which_o hold_v and_o teach_v obstinate_o very_o wicked_a error_n it_o