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which_o the_o lord_n will_v not_o tell_v then_o to_o his_o disciple_n because_o they_o can_v not_o bear_v it_o as_o for_o example_n if_o i_o say_v that_o this_o which_o we_o read_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o gospel_n in_o the_o beginning_n be_v the_o word_n and_o the_o word_n be_v god_n etc._n etc._n because_o this_o be_v write_v afterwards_o and_o be_v not_o record_v that_o our_o lord_n say_v iâ—_n while_o he_o be_v here_o in_o the_o flâ—sh_n but_o one_o of_o his_o apostle_n write_v it_o christ_n and_o his_o spirit_n reveal_v it_o unto_o hâ—m_n be_v of_o the_o number_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o lord_n will_v not_o say_v then_o because_o that_o the_o disciple_n can_v not_o bear_v they_o who_o will_v hear_v i_o say_v that_o so_o rash_o thus_o you_o see_v saint_n augustine_n protest_v that_o he_o shall_v incur_v the_o fault_n of_o rashness_n if_o he_o affirm_v the_o thing_n which_o the_o bishop_n of_o eureux_fw-fr mainteyn_v that_o he_o affirm_v which_o be_v make_v 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