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A70515 Of the incurable scepticism of the Church of Rome; De insanabili romanae Ecclesiae scepticismo. English La Placette, Jean, 1629-1718.; Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715. 1688 (1688) Wing L429; Wing T705; ESTC R13815 157,482 172

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of_o the_o incurable_a scepticism_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n imprimatur_fw-la hic_fw-la libre_fw-la cui_fw-la titulus_fw-la of_o the_o incurable_a scepticism_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n octob._n 20._o 1687._o gvil._n needham_n london_n print_v for_o ric._n chiswel_o at_o the_o rose_n and_o crown_n in_o st._n paul_n church_n yard_n mdlxxxviii_o preface_n among_o the_o manifold_a accusation_n with_o which_o the_o papist_n be_v wont_a to_o defame_v our_o most_o holy_a religion_n there_o be_v none_o which_o they_o often_o allege_v or_o more_o serious_o endeavour_v to_o evince_v or_o confirm_v with_o more_o plausible_a argument_n than_o that_o whereby_o they_o pretend_v that_o we_o utter_o overthrow_v all_o certainty_n in_o divine_a matter_n and_o consequent_o faith_n itself_o this_o be_v the_o constant_a subject_n of_o their_o write_n and_o discourse_n this_o be_v of_o late_a their_o only_a argument_n to_o obviate_v therefore_o these_o importunate_a clamour_n i_o resolve_v 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to_o demonstrate_v these_o three_o thing_n i._o that_o it_o be_v most_o false_a what_o be_v pretend_v with_o so_o much_o confidence_n that_o the_o church_n at_o least_o in_o the_o sense_n by_o they_o understand_v can_v err_v ii_o that_o grant_v the_o church_n can_v err_v this_o her_o infallibility_n be_v of_o that_o nature_n that_o both_o itself_o labour_v with_o inextricable_a difficulty_n and_o can_v confer_v certainty_n upon_o nothing_o else_o iii_o that_o our_o faith_n rely_v upon_o far_o more_o firm_a foundation_n and_o that_o nothing_o be_v believe_v by_o we_o which_o be_v not_o both_o certain_a in_o itself_o and_o such_o as_o the_o certainty_n of_o it_o can_v be_v unknown_a by_o we_o of_o these_o three_o proposition_n which_o may_v in_o time_n god_n willing_a be_v demonstrate_v i_o have_v now_o undertake_v the_o second_o because_o that_o may_v be_v comprehend_v in_o a_o much_o short_a discourse_n than_o the_o rest_n i_o will_v show_v therefore_o in_o this_o treatise_n that_o the_o least_o assurance_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v believe_v be_v want_v to_o the_o popish_a religion_n and_o that_o all_o thing_n be_v there_o doubtful_a all_o thing_n uncertain_a and_o nothing_o firm_a this_o although_o it_o be_v most_o true_a in_o the_o agenda_fw-la also_o of_o their_o religion_n yet_o to_o avoid_v prolixity_n i_o confine_v myself_o to_o the_o credenda_fw-la only_o and_o even_o in_o these_o omit_v many_o thing_n which_o may_v perhaps_o seem_v not_o inconsiderable_a to_o many_o for_o not_o one_o or_o two_o way_n only_o do_v the_o roman_a religion_n overthrow_v the_o firmness_n of_o faith_n it_o do_v it_o upon_o many_o account_n principal_o by_o their_o doctrine_n of_o the_o eucharist_n which_o introduce_v a_o universal_a scepticism_n into_o the_o whole_a system_n of_o christian_a religion_n not_o to_o say_v that_o their_o divine_n in_o teach_v that_o the_o very_a existence_n of_o god_n be_v not_o so_o much_o know_v as_o believe_v manifest_o betray_v to_o atheist_n the_o cause_n of_o religion_n but_o i_o omit_v these_o thing_n as_o not_o proper_o belong_v to_o the_o matter_n by_o we_o undertake_v what_o i_o offer_v in_o this_o discourse_n may_v perhaps_o seem_v to_o some_o too_o much_o embarass_v with_o scholastic_a term_n and_o dispute_n nor_o indeed_o do_v i_o whole_o deny_v it_o but_o i_o desire_v those_o person_n to_o consider_v whether_o this_o can_v possible_o be_v avoid_v for_o only_o to_o propose_v our_o argument_n and_o not_o vindicate_v they_o by_o examine_v what_o be_v oppose_v to_o they_o by_o our_o adversary_n seem_v to_o i_o the_o least_o part_n of_o a_o accurate_a disputation_n which_o whosoever_o shall_v peruse_v even_o with_o the_o great_a diligence_n and_o attention_n can_v nor_o ought_v not_o to_o give_v sentence_n because_o they_o have_v not_o yet_o hear_v the_o other_o party_n who_o defence_n can_v be_v without_o injustice_n neglect_v those_o defence_n indeed_o be_v become_v nauseous_a in_o this_o age_n and_o not_o undeserved_o but_o however_o they_o can_v not_o be_v just_o pass_v by_o and_o dissemble_v by_o we_o yet_o in_o these_o i_o have_v endeavour_v to_o propose_v they_o as_o clear_o and_o perspicuous_o as_o i_o can_v and_o accommodate_v they_o to_o the_o capacity_n of_o all_o person_n whether_o i_o have_v gain_v my_o intent_n experience_n must_v declare_v of_o the_o incurable_a scepticism_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n chap._n i._n wherein_o be_v lay_v down_o the_o design_n of_o this_o treatise_n and_o some_o thing_n be_v premise_v for_o the_o better_a understanding_n of_o the_o whole_a it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o all_o that_o the_o perfection_n of_o that_o faith_n which_o the_o schoolman_n call_v inform_v we_o historical_a consist_v in_o three_o thing_n that_o it_o be_v plenary_a pure_a and_o firm_a that_o be_v that_o it_o believe_v all_o which_o god_n have_v reveal_v and_o that_o without_o any_o mixture_n of_o error_n or_o admittance_n of_o doubt_n that_o the_o faith_n of_o papist_n be_v neither_o plenary_a nor_o pure_a many_o have_v demonstrate_v that_o it_o be_v not_o firm_a or_o unshaken_a i_o here_o undertake_v to_o prove_v and_o to_o show_v that_o admit_v their_o hypothesis_n a_o papist_n can_v with_o a_o certain_a and_o firm_a faith_n be_v persuade_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o any_o thing_n not_o only_o not_o of_o those_o article_n which_o rome_n have_v add_v to_o the_o divine_a revelation_n but_o not_o even_o of_o those_o which_o be_v true_o reveal_v by_o god._n for_o since_o object_n of_o faith_n be_v inevident_a of_o themselves_o and_o deserve_v assent_v no_o otherwise_o then_o as_o it_o shall_v appear_v that_o they_o have_v be_v reveal_v by_o god_n and_o revelation_n itself_o not_o a_o whit_n more_o evident_a there_o be_v necessary_o require_v one_o or_o more_o rule_n whereby_o thing_n reveal_v may_v be_v distinguish_v from_o not_o reveal_v we_o have_v only_o one_o such_o rule_n the_o holy_a scripture_n the_o papist_n many_o that_o so_o what_o they_o want_v in_o goodness_n they_o may_v make_v up_o in_o number_n for_o to_o scripture_n they_o have_v add_v tradition_n decree_v of_o pope_n constitution_n of_o council_n and_o consent_n of_o pastor_n not_o only_o those_o who_o have_v successive_o rule_v the_o church_n from_o the_o first_o foundation_n of_o it_o but_o of_o those_o also_o who_o govern_v at_o any_o determinate_a time_n and_o last_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n now_o that_o by_o the_o mean_n of_o any_o rule_n our_o faith_n may_v become_v firm_a two_o thing_n be_v necessary_a first_o that_o the_o rule_n itself_o be_v true_a contain_v nothing_o false_a or_o not_o reveal_v and_o then_o second_o that_o what_o we_o believe_v manifest_o agree_v with_o this_o rule_n if_o either_o of_o these_o condition_n fail_v our_o faith_n must_v be_v uncertain_a nor_o be_v it_o only_o requisite_a that_o a_o papist_n be_v ascertain_v both_o of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o the_o conformity_n of_o what_o be_v believe_v unto_o they_o but_o also_o that_o he_o be_v as_o firm_o persuade_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o these_o thing_n as_o he_o be_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o any_o article_n of_o his_o faith._n for_o since_o the_o faith_n of_o papist_n depend_v whole_o upon_o these_o rule_n and_o be_v sustain_v only_o by_o they_o how_o can_v it_o be_v that_o the_o persuasion_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o believe_v mere_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o these_o rule_n shall_v be_v more_o firm_a than_o the_o persuasion_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o rule_n themselves_o or_o of_o the_o conformity_n of_o what_o they_o believe_v unto_o those_o rule_n it_o be_v impossible_a that_o a_o effect_n shall_v have_v more_o in_o it_o than_o the_o cause_n can_v give_v it_o a_o conclusion_n strong_a than_o the_o premise_n or_o a_o house_n firm_a than_o the_o foundation_n nor_o do_v our_o adversary_n deny_v this_o holden_n 2._o holden_n quamcunque_fw-la enim_fw-la
certitudinem_fw-la attribuere_fw-la possumus_fw-la assensui_fw-la intellectûs_fw-la propter_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la dei_fw-la revelantis_fw-la elicito_fw-la eam_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la provenire_fw-la ac_fw-la dependere_fw-la à_fw-la certitudine_fw-la medii_fw-la quo_fw-la haec_fw-la dei_fw-la revelantis_fw-la authoritas_fw-la intellectui_fw-la communicatur_fw-la impossibile_fw-it est_fw-la ut_fw-la majori_fw-la certitudine_fw-la verâ_fw-la &_o rationali_fw-la credat_fw-la aliquis_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la revelari_fw-la quàm_fw-la quâ_fw-la cognoverit_fw-la deum_fw-la eâ_fw-la revelasse_n holden_n anal._n fid._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o affirm_v that_o whatsoever_o certainty_n we_o can_v attribute_v to_o a_o assent_n of_o the_o understanding_n give_v for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n reveal_v the_o same_o must_v necessary_o be_v derive_v from_o and_o depend_v upon_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o mean_n whereby_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n reveal_v be_v communicate_v to_o the_o understanding_n and_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o any_o one_o shall_v believe_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v reveal_v by_o god_n with_o a_o great_a degree_n of_o true_a and_o rational_a certainty_n than_o wherewith_o he_o be_v assure_v that_o god_n do_v reveal_v they_o aegidius_n estrix_fw-la 28._o estrix_fw-la est_fw-la diat_a de_fw-fr sapientiâ_fw-la dei_fw-la etc._n etc._n assert_v 26_o 27_o 28._o lay_v down_o and_o prove_v these_o three_o assertion_n 1._o that_o a_o assent_n of_o faith_n can_v be_v more_o certain_a than_o the_o principle_n upon_o which_o it_o depend_v 2._o that_o it_o can_v be_v more_o firm_a than_o those_o previous_a assent_n from_o which_o it_o be_v deduce_v 3._o that_o that_o which_o be_v otherwise_o be_v a_o imprudent_a assent_n and_o john_n martinonus_n 8._o martinonus_n non_fw-la potest_fw-la fides_fw-la supernaturalis_fw-la superare_fw-la formali_fw-la certitudine_fw-la sumptâ_fw-la ex_fw-la merito_fw-la objecti_fw-la certitudinem_fw-la carum_fw-la veritatum_fw-la quae_fw-la includuntur_fw-la in_o ipsius_fw-la objecto_fw-la &_o in_o quibus_fw-la fundatur_fw-la illa_fw-la certitudo_fw-la mart._n tom._n 5._o disp_n 20._o de_fw-la fide_fw-la sect._n 8._o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n write_v that_o supernatural_a faith_n can_v with_o a_o formal_a certainty_n take_v from_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o object_n exceed_v the_o certainty_n of_o those_o truth_n which_o be_v include_v in_o its_o object_n and_o in_o which_o that_o certainty_n be_v found_v since_o therefore_o the_o persuasion_n which_o papist_n have_v of_o what_o they_o believe_v either_o be_v or_o be_v think_v to_o be_v divine_a faith_n it_o hence_o appear_v that_o it_o can_v be_v solid_a unless_o they_o be_v assure_v by_o divine_a faith_n or_o some_o other_o not_o inferior_a persuasion_n that_o both_o the_o rule_n of_o their_o faith_n be_v true_a and_o that_o what_o they_o believe_v be_v entire_o conformable_a to_o they_o this_o our_o adversary_n confess_v and_o because_o some_o of_o they_o hold_v that_o no_o persuasion_n be_v of_o equal_a certainty_n with_o divine_a faith_n therefore_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o by_o divine_a faith_n they_o be_v ascertain_v of_o those_o two_o thing_n or_o at_o least_o the_o first_o of_o they_o so_o ludovicus_n caspensis_n 6._o caspensis_n nisi_fw-la fide_fw-la divinâ_fw-la credamus_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la pontifices_fw-la esse_fw-la successores_fw-la petri_n nihil_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la possimus_fw-la fide_fw-la divinâ_fw-la credere_fw-la lud._n cisp_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 2._o sect._n 6._o unless_o we_o can_v believe_v say_v he_o by_o divine_a faith_n that_o such_o and_o such_o pope_n be_v successor_n of_o peter_n there_o be_v nothing_o we_o can_v believe_v by_o divine_a faith._n martinonus_n 6._o martinonus_n neque_fw-la summus_fw-la pontifex_fw-la posset_n nos_fw-la obligare_fw-la ad_fw-la credendum_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la definit_a ut_fw-la dictum_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la nisi_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la esset_fw-la ipsum_fw-la habere_fw-la potestatem_fw-la definiendi_fw-la &_o infallibilem_fw-la assistentiam_fw-la mart._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 9_o sect._n 6._o affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v not_o oblige_v we_o to_o believe_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la that_o which_o he_o define_v as_o say_v by_o god_n unless_o it_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la that_o he_o have_v the_o power_n of_o define_v and_o infallible_a assistance_n maimburgh_n 3._o maimburgh_n maimb_n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr uraye_fw-fr parole_fw-fr chap._n 3._o have_v much_o to_o the_o same_o sense_n which_o will_v be_v here_o too_o long_o to_o insert_v if_o the_o opinion_n of_o these_o divine_n be_v receive_v by_o all_o the_o dispute_n will_v be_v the_o short_a for_o than_o i_o need_v only_o prove_v that_o none_o of_o our_o adversary_n be_v by_o divine_a faith_n assure_v of_o the_o certainty_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o his_o faith_n since_o all_o other_o kind_n of_o assurance_n be_v inferior_a to_o that_o of_o divine_a faith_n will_v not_o suffice_v but_o because_o this_o hypothesis_n although_o admit_v by_o most_o be_v deny_v by_o some_o few_o and_o labour_n with_o insuperable_a difficulty_n which_o i_o will_v not_o here_o touch_v i_o will_v not_o have_v the_o force_n of_o my_o argument_n rely_v upon_o it_o it_o remain_v therefore_o to_o be_v inquire_v whether_o our_o adversary_n can_v boast_v of_o any_o certainty_n in_o this_o matter_n distinct_a from_o and_o as_o they_o think_v not_o inferior_a to_o the_o certainty_n of_o divine_a faith._n but_o first_o we_o must_v lay_v down_o somewhat_o concern_v the_o kind_n and_o degree_n of_o certainty_n bellarmine_n 2._o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr justif_a lib._n 3._o cap._n 2._o make_v a_o two_o fold_v certainty_n evident_a and_o obscure_a that_o of_o thing_n in_o themselves_o manifest_a this_o of_o thing_n that_o depend_v upon_o external_a proof_n and_o testimony_n to_o the_o first_o kind_n he_o assign_v three_o degree_n whereof_o first_o principle_n constitute_v the_o first_o conclusion_n evident_o draw_v from_o these_o the_o second_o and_o thing_n perceive_v by_o sense_n the_o three_o that_o be_v certainty_n of_o the_o intellect_n of_o science_n and_o of_o experience_n to_o obscure_a certainty_n he_o give_v as_o many_o degree_n the_o first_o be_v of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v believe_v for_o divine_a authority_n the_o second_o of_o those_o believe_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o humane_a authority_n but_o that_o so_o illustrious_a that_o it_o leave_v no_o place_n for_o doubt_n the_o three_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v confirm_v by_o such_o and_o so_o many_o argument_n as_o may_v exclude_v anxiety_n but_o not_o distrust_v or_o certainty_n of_o divine_a faith_n which_o be_v absolute_a certainty_n of_o humane_a faith_n which_o be_v moral_a and_o certainty_n of_o opinion_n which_o be_v conjectural_a thus_o far_o bellarmine_n who_o distribution_n 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that_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n may_v be_v prove_v without_o recur_v to_o the_o church_n yea_o and_o that_o before_o the_o first_o proof_n of_o the_o true_a church_n the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n ought_v to_o be_v prove_v he_o prove_v both_o part_n of_o his_o assertion_n large_o and_o in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o it_o make_v use_v of_o this_o argument_n for_o since_o the_o church_n as_o a_o church_n be_v define_v the_o congregation_n of_o man_n profess_v the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o faith_n it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n in_o the_o very_a term_n to_o suppose_v any_o congregation_n to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n unless_o i_o do_v for_o that_o very_a reason_n suppose_v there_o be_v the_o true_a doctrine_n i_o can_v therefore_o first_o prove_v the_o doctrine_n be_v true_a from_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o church_n to_o this_o we_o willing_o subscribe_v and_o approve_v this_o method_n of_o arriaga_n only_a not_o so_o the_o rest_n of_o our_o adversary_n who_o detest_v it_o 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he_o ecclesia_fw-la autem_fw-la latinorum_n non_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la vniversalis_fw-la sed_fw-la quaedam_fw-la pars_fw-la ejus_fw-la ideo_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la tota_fw-la ipsa_fw-la errâsset_fw-la non_fw-la errabat_fw-la eccl._n universalis_fw-la quia_fw-la manet_fw-la eccl._n universalis_fw-la in_o partibus_fw-la istis_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la errant_a five_o illa_fw-la fint_fw-la plures_fw-la numero_fw-la quàm_fw-la errantes_fw-la sine_fw-la non_fw-la tost_n in_o 2._o prol._n hier._n in_o matth._n qu._n 4._o the_o latin_a church_n be_v not_o the_o universal_a church_n but_o only_o a_o part_n of_o it_o therefore_o although_o that_o have_v whole_o err_v the_o universal_a church_n will_v not_o have_v err_v because_o it_o remain_v in_o those_o part_n which_o do_v not_o err_v whether_o they_o be_v more_o or_o few_o in_o number_n than_o the_o part_n which_o do_v err_v so_o canus_n 5._o canus_n at_o nihil_fw-la obstat_fw-la cur_n major_a ecclesiae_fw-la pars_fw-la non_fw-la 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