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A66719 The chasing the young quaking harlot out of the city, or, A turning the Quakers dark side into the light wherein is plainly discovered a twofold design against the publick peace, the one by their doctrine, the other by their sword : with an answer to E. B. Salvation to his brethren : the Quaker founded out of his lying trumpet : with seven special marks to know the quaking harlot from the other harlots : also certain queries sent to I. Lilburn, in order to prove his resurrection to be but a meer imagination, and quaking delusion : together with a certain rule to know whether the Quakers doctrine be a new dispensation of Gods, or a fiction out of a Quakers brain / by Thomas Winterton. Winterton, Thomas.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1656 (1656) Wing W3092; ESTC R7741 12,637 19

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his words are these in the 37. page Make Warre in righteousness and prepare your selves to do his service let not your hands be slack neither be you sloathful in our Lords design but wound the head of your enemies and manage Warre against God and Magog throughout all Generations ride on and prosper and tread down the fenced Cities and enlarge your Dominion and let the Children of strangers of the Seed of Esau be your slaves and bond-men and fill the Earth with your presence And in the 39. page O Sion thou art prepared of thy God to beat the Mountains to dust thou art fitted for his service to thresh the Hills Make no tarrying but come away spread thy self into every corner of the Earth for the upright thirst for thee And in the 40. page for thy God hath given thee an Instrument with teeth to beat the Rocks to powder he is not wanting to thee in power and wisdom thou Son of his love give up give up to obey his voice and love not thy life unto death till the Seed of thy Inheritance and the blood of thy chosen be revenged upon the head of Jezabel who hath slain thy Elect in all Generations and nourished her self with the blood of the Innocent call upon thy God and awake him to revenge to smite and to slay thy adversaries and to consume their Habitation from off the Earth who have been too strong for thee why shouldest thou not come forth in the power of thy judgements to judge the Earth in righteousness and exalt thy name in glory Now for as much as I have not an infallible spirit infallibly to interpret what may be intended in these revengefull expressions notwithstanding my Imaginary faculty might find ground enough of bad consequence in them yet I shall leave them to better judgements and take the boldness to inquire 1. Whether Edward Burrough doth mean Gog and Magog mentioned in Scripture so far remote and unknown and the Sons of Esau so long agoe dead or whether he means those to whom he directs his Controversie specified in the said book the which is all those that opposeth Quaking 2. Whether Gog or Magog or the Turk or any Heathen could go much further in revengful expression then E. B. doth against those he intendeth in the said Book notwithstanding he hath formerly taught it was of the Devil and to condemnation 3. Whether Mahomet when he was of the Quakers age the which is under seven years was not as unlikely to be numerous as the Quakers are 4. Whether the Turk's people do not ignorantly believe that Mahomet was a true Prophet sent from God and what he spake was infallibly true and whether he did not promise all that would believe and obey him that they should have a glorious being after this life with many fair women and those that would hazard their lives for the inlargment of his Dominions should enjoy all his promises and whether this conceit did not so animate them that they feared no enterprise and whether this was not a great means of their prevailance 5. Whether if the Quakers should grow considerable in the so deluding the people that they should not trust their own understanding but wholly rely upon the infallibilities of these Teachers whether these people thus believing will not be more readie to obey them then to experiment the lawfulness of their command 6. Whether the Turks had not a better ground for their Faith that Mahomet was a true Prophet in that he did such things as none did as the Quakers in believing Naylor and Burrough that can do no more then every one can do except out-facing 7. Whether it be subsistent to the well-being of a Common-wealth to harbour such Opinions without security as shall directly lead to the disturbance thereof An Answer to Edward Burroughs Salutation to his Fellow-Quakers sounding out of his lying Trumpet O How hath Satan filled thy heart and with what power of imagination hath he possest thee that thou should'st thus exalt thy self like an Eagle as if thy nest were in the Stars Knowest thou not that the try umphing of the Wicked is short and the joy of the Hypocrite but for a moment And that the Lord hath a controversie with the proud look and the lying tongue of both thou art extreamly guilty as doth plainly appear in that thou condemneth all the people in the world to be all under the condemnation of the wrath of God and then proudly presumeth that thou and thy fraturnity the Quakers are the onely people the Lord delights in And thus thou makest the poor ignorant people glad with thy lyes the which thou tellest both against God and Man O thou proud presumptuous ambitious Quaker where is thy original or from whence was thou hewen but out of a haughty proud imagination thou art not yet seven years old and are thou the onely people of the whole Creation in the favour of the Almighty Had he no people before thou appearedst Or did he cast them all away to take the high presumptuous Quaker Sure the youngness of thy years maketh thy Impudence a miracle therefore woe be to them that live to see thee prosperous to a manly age Again from what Original dost thou draw thy Opinions for from the Scripture thou dost not for thou deniest the worship of the Scripture and the Faith of the Scriptures and the obedience First Thou deniest all matter and form of woship and where there is neither of these there neither is nor can be any manner of Worship Secondly You deny the Faith of all the Saints and people of God in the Scripture for James Naylor in the 62. pag of his Love to the Lost denies that to be the Faith of Christ that doth not set men free from sin while they liveth Now in the same page upon another occasion he citeth the 1 Cor. 15. and he saith the Apostle speaks plain words to that purpose now the same Apostle in the 7. of the Rom. from the 14. to the end of the Chapter-speaks as plain words to this purpose namely that when he writ that Epistle he had sin in him and yet at this time he was possessed of the Faith of Jesus Christ to salvation in as great a measure as any ever had is clearly proved in Scripture And 1 Joh. 1.8 as plainly saith If we say we have no sin we deceive our selves and there is no truth in us Thirdly Thou deniest the obedience of the Scripture in that thou deniest actual obedience yea and the authority of the Scripture too for whereas the authority of the Scripture both in the New and Old Testament is full of Laws Statutes and Command if there is no actuall obedience then they are but as common History therefore thou being opposite to the Scriptures Worship Faith and Obedience let us examine how they own thy Opinions 1. Where it can be proved that that Light whereby Christ lighteneth every one that comes
into the world is as a hammer and fire to break and consume all carnal Lust whatsoever or doth at all mortifie and consume Carnal Lust 2. Let us examine what Worship it is thou holdest hard forth In the 10. page of Naylors Love to the Lost he fills up three pages about Worship when less then one line would contain the substance of the matter and that was no other but as every Creature is moved by the Spirit of the Living God and here is all the substance of this large Story the which he doth upon purpose to bemuse and confound the people that so they might be kept off from the serious Examination of the premises but I resolve not to be deceived by him and therefore shall take notice that if Moses had taught no other Worship to the Jewes nor Christ and the Apostles to the Gentiles they had made way for as great abominations as the Quakers do for as all Worships would have been one as another so every Worship would have been as good as another yea the Turk the Pope and all the Heathen-Worshippers in the world might approve themselves upon this Doctrine as true Worshippers as James Naylor the Lyers Murderers and to Whoremongers and all whatsoever every one will say its from the Spirit of the Living God and therefore in that James Naylor doth acknowledge in his writings that there is a Carnal Spirit and a Spirit of the Devil he should have given some infallible Character to know the Spirit of God from other Spirits as Christ doth to know a true Prophet from a false had not his wisdome been as small as his honesty 3. Now seeing the Scripture can say nothing for thee in the good sense let us try whether it knoweth thee in the evill seeing it cannot prove thee a true Prophit let us see whether it can prove thee a false Christ in the 7. of Matth. 15. biddeth Beware of false Prophets and in the 10. ver he telleth us that we may know them by their fruits the which fruits was the distinguishing Character to know a true Prophet from a false Now this Character was not 〈◊〉 pretences of Holiness for that had the false Prophets for the Text saith that they come in sheeps cloathing neither was it manifestation of the Tongues for that the false Prophets could do likewise But this distinguishing Character was works onely whereby a true Prophet or Apostle was known from a false yea and thus did Christ distinguish himself from all false Christs also and therefore he saith the works that I do bear witnes of me and further he saith That if he had not done work amongst them that never none did their rejecting of him had been no sin And therefore when he commanded his Disciples to go preach unto the world the which was sufficient on their parts to put their Commission in execution yet for as much as this was no distinguishing Character he commanded them to stay at Jerusalem till he had provided on the peoples part something whereby to ground their Faith upon that they might be sure they were of his sending and in order thereunto he indued them with such Heavenly Demonstrations that all the world could not furnish a false Apostle or Prophet withall And therefore forasmuch as Jame Naylor did engage in Beech-lane to prove himself a true Prophet and yet could give no other manifestation then every man in the World may do that hath but that impudency and art of our-facing and being told that what he said would not prove he was a true Prophet he bid them prove that he was not a true Prophet the which had been needless because that very request was a sufficient demonstration of a false 4. The next thing considerable is thy subtilty how to make thy self numerous not having the Magistrate sword as the old Whore thy Mother had without which she had been no greater then the ignorant sort would have made her for she by harping upon the narrow way to life the Scripture speaks of in order thereunto she afflicts her followers with many chastisements and purgatories But forasmuch as thou holdst forth the broad way that all that believe in that light with which Christ lighteneth every one that cometh into the world they then are to walk by that light within them and for as much as thou holdst forth no rule to try whether they believe or no but only sayst they do thou must take in all that will but say they believe and they are the member of thy body and being so they are freed from sin And now it is all one as if thou shouldest proclaim Come all Drunkards come all Whore-masters come all Murderers and Liers come all whatsoever all your abominations shall here be turned to vertues and you shall walk according to your own Lust without controll And thus by thy subtilty thou thinkest to increase and multiply for as there is in the whole Creation three degrees that is the Ignorant the Learned and the Prudent Now the middle sort have ever been counted for the multitude the which thou thinks thou art sure to have to make thee considerable that so thou mayst put into execution thy revengful Spirit the which is to make Slaves and Bond-men of all thy Opposers ANd now that this Harlot may not be lost in her Chase I shall discover what marks she hath about her that so all well-willers to the publick may cry this is she this is she Her Marks are these 1. Her Language 2. Her Weapons 3. Her Presumption 4. Her Religion 5. Her attendance 6. Her Kindred 7. Her favour 1. For as much as this young Harlot denies matter and form of worship notwithstanding the Scripture commands it and holds as of necessay matter and form of word no where commanded nor in their own nature of any weight but only to distinguish one thing from another and so any thing that will but distinguish is as good one thing as another and therefore no necessity to change the received civility of a Country from you to thou and thee but only to beget a novelty to insnare the ignorant therefore thou and thee are the true Languages of this Harlot so that thou mayst truly cry this is she 2. Her Weapons whereby she defend her self against those that oppose her Doctrine and there are such as will defend any false Doctrine in the World yea and any abomination too for every Adulterer Fornicator Thief and Murder Lyer and Blasphemer yea the Devill himself if he hath but that impudence may make the same plea of defence against all that shall question his Doctrine that is that they are carnal and in the flesh and to condemnation and that they knew not the light of Christ but stumble at the stumbling-stone and are in the cursed ground and that they cannot believe though the truth be demonstrated to them they having not that spirit but are in their sin Therfore when you hear a