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A55387 The nullity of the Romish faith, or, A blow at the root of the Romish Church being an examination of that fundamentall doctrine of the Church of Rome concerning the Churches infallibility, and of all those severall methods which their most famous and approved writers have used for the defence thereof : together with an appendix tending to the demonstration of the solidity of the Protestant faith, wherein the reader will find all the materiall objections and cavils of their most considerable writers, viz., Richworth (alias Rushworth) in his Dialogues, White in his treatise De fide and his Apology for tradition, Cressy in his Exomologesis, S. Clara in his Systema fidei, and Captaine Everard in his late account of his pretended conversion to the Church of Rome discussed and answered / by Matthevv Poole ... Poole, Matthew, 1624-1679. 1666 (1666) Wing P2843; ESTC R202654 248,795 380

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o whole_a herd_n not_o every_o herd_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o whole_a city_n v_o 34._o 2._o that_o it_o must_v be_v so_o take_v here_o our_o adversary_n be_v judge_n for_o else_o this_o confess_a inconvenience_n will_v follow_v that_o any_o one_o verse_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v profitable_a and_o sufficient_a to_o all_o these_o purpose_n nor_o do_v it_o at_o all_o follow_v that_o all_o the_o rest_n be_v superfluous_a because_o not_o precise_o necessary_a the_o pentateuch_n alone_o be_v a_o sufficient_a law_n for_o the_o jew_n yet_o none_o will_v say_v the_o book_n of_o the_o prophet_n concern_v the_o explication_n or_o application_n of_o that_o law_n be_v superfluous_a excep_v 5._o he_o say_v not_o the_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a but_o only_o profitable_a cressy_n ans._n 1._o he_o say_v they_o be_v profitable_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o every_o good_a work_n and_o what_o be_v so_o be_v undoubted_o sufficient_a 2._o he_o say_v they_o 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nullam_fw-la vim_o erga_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o nostram_fw-la fidem_fw-la nisi_fw-la