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A61545 A discourse concerning the nature and grounds of the certainty of faith in answer to J.S., his Catholick letters / by Edw. Stillingfleet ... Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1688 (1688) Wing S5582; ESTC R14787 74,966 133

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but_o he_o be_v dispute_v against_o by_o gregorius_n ariminensis_n 1._o and_o he_o say_v his_o doctrine_n be_v condemn_v by_o the_o faculty_n of_o paris_n and_o gregory_n de_fw-fr valentia_n 4._o speak_v of_o he_o with_o great_a contempt_n for_o hold_v so_o absurd_a a_o doctrine_n the_o certainty_n of_o faith_n be_v declare_v by_o the_o ancient_a schoolman_n to_o be_v above_o opinion_n and_o below_o science_n by_o which_o they_o understand_v the_o intrinsic_n ground_n on_o which_o truth_n be_v build_v which_o mr._n s._n make_v necessary_a to_o the_o profession_n of_o it_o hugo_n de_fw-fr sancto_fw-la victore_fw-la say_v 373._o that_o the_o high_a certainty_n of_o faith_n be_v owe_v to_o a_o pious_a and_o pure_a disposition_n of_o the_o mind_n and_o a_o immediate_a divine_a influence_n petrus_n pictaviensis_n 21._o that_o it_o lie_v not_o in_o evidence_n but_o adherence_n guliel_n parisiensis_fw-la prove_v conclusive_a evidence_n repugnant_a to_o faith_n 1._o in_o a_o long_a discourse_n 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