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shepherd_n after_o bishop_n those_o to_o be_v feed_v these_o to_o seed_n if_o those_o can_v not_o fail_v at_o any_o time_n neither_o can_v these_o lack_n or_o fail_v we_o show_v both_o m._n jewel_n show_v neither_o any_o succession_n of_o sheep_n nor_o of_o bishop_n therefore_o he_o that_o rest_v with_o m._n jewel_n be_v out_o of_o the_o fold_n and_o he_o that_o will_v be_v the_o save_v sheep_n of_o christ_n must_v abide_v in_o or_o if_o he_o be_v out_o return_v to_o the_o fold_n of_o peter_n to_o who_o alone_o as_o love_v more_o than_o other_o it_o be_v say_v 21._o joan._n 21._o feed_v my_o lamb_n feed_v my_o sheep_n of_o auricular_a or_o sacramental_a confession_n jewel_n pag._n 133._o we_o say_v that_o private_a confession_n to_o be_v make_v unto_o the_o minister_n be_v neither_o command_v by_o christ_n 30._o chrysost_n â—d_a hebr._n homil_n 30._o nor_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o therefore_o chrysostom_n say_v i_o will_v thou_o not_o betray_v thyself_o open_o not_o to_o accuse_v thyself_o before_o other_o but_o i_o counsel_v thou_o to_o obey_v the_o prophet_n say_v open_v thy_o way_n unto_o the_o lord_n harding_n 20._o confession_n necessary_a private_a or_o public_a johan._n 20._o neither_o do_v we_o say_v precise_o that_o private_a confession_n be_v necessary_a but_o that_o either_o private_a or_o public_a be_v necessary_o to_o be_v make_v to_o a_o priest_n because_o he_o only_o have_v power_n of_o christ_n to_o forgeve_v and_o to_o reteinâ—_n sin_n and_o he_o can_v not_o judge_v who_o be_v to_o be_v forgeven_v or_o who_o be_v to_o be_v retain_v except_o the_o sinner_n do_v particular_o open_v their_o hart_n and_o thought_n where_o the_o founteine_v of_o sin_n be_v 15._o matt._n 15._o accordingly_z as_z christ_n say_v evil_a thought_n come_v forth_o from_o the_o hart_n s._n chrysostom_n in_o this_o place_n speak_v not_o in_o deed_n of_o sacramental_a confession_n but_o of_o that_o which_o be_v daily_o to_o be_v make_v unto_o god_n alone_o 31._o of_o the_o confession_n that_o s._n chrystom_n speak_v of_o ad_fw-la heb._n hom_n 31._o he_o have_v say_v before_o poenitentem_fw-la non_fw-la oportet_fw-la peccatum_fw-la suum_fw-la oblivioni_fw-la tradere_fw-la peccatum_fw-la confession_n minuitur_fw-la nullum_fw-la invenitur_fw-la delictorum_fw-la tale_n remedium_fw-la sicut_fw-la eorum_fw-la continuata_fw-la memoria_fw-la the_o penitent_a must_v not_o forgete_v his_o sin_n the_o sin_n be_v diminish_v by_o confession_n no_o such_o remedy_n of_o sin_n be_v find_v as_o the_o continual_a remembrance_n of_o they_o nec_fw-la tantum_fw-la nos_fw-la peccatores_fw-la esse_fw-la dicamus_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsa_fw-la peccata_fw-la specialiter_fw-la singula_fw-la computemus_fw-la neither_o let_v we_o only_o say_v we_o be_v sinner_n in_o general_n but_o let_v we_o reckon_v up_o every_o sin_n in_o special_a upon_o which_o word_n immediate_o it_o follow_v i_o say_v not_o to_o thou_o that_o thou_o shall_v bewray_v thyself_o open_o but_o open_v thy_o way_n unto_o our_o lord_n now_o put_v the_o whole_a tale_n of_o s._n chrysostome_n together_o whereas_o he_o will_v man_n to_o have_v continual_a remembrance_n of_o their_o sin_n to_o confess_v they_o and_o that_o in_o special_a and_o particular_o and_o still_o to_o do_v it_o a_o man_n may_v worthy_o have_v say_v unto_o he_o why_o sir_n shall_v i_o go_v every_o day_n to_o the_o priest_n and_o never_o leave_v confess_v the_o self_n same_o sin_n to_o this_o objection_n he_o make_v answer_v say_v ibid_fw-la thou_o not_o bewray_v thyself_o open_o nor_o to_o accuse_v thyself_o before_o other_o revele_v thy_o way_n to_o god_n here_o then_o we_o have_v sin_n particular_a and_o oft_o remembrance_n of_o sin_n that_o it_o be_v good_a to_o call_v the_o self_n same_o sin_n oftentimes_o particular_o to_o remembrance_n and_o to_o confess_v they_o oft_o unto_o god_n but_o that_o they_o need_v not_o at_o all_o to_o be_v confess_v to_o the_o priest_n that_o s._n chrysostome_n say_v not_o for_o in_o other_o place_n he_o have_v teach_v we_o that_o the_o priest_n be_v in_o better_a case_n to_o purge_v sin_n now_o than_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o law_n be_v to_o show_v that_o the_o leprouse_n be_v purge_v his_o word_n be_v corporis_fw-la lepram_fw-la haud_fw-la purgare_fw-la quidem_fw-la soul_n chrysost_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-la sacerdotio_fw-la priest_n have_v power_n to_o purge_v the_o lepre_n of_o the_o soul_n sed_fw-la purgatos_fw-la probare_fw-la judaeorum_n sacerdotibus_fw-la solis_fw-la licebat_fw-la at_o vero_fw-la nostris_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la non_fw-la corporis_fw-la lepram_fw-la verùm_fw-la animae_fw-la sordes_fw-la non_fw-la dico_fw-la purgatas_fw-la probare_fw-la sed_fw-la purgare_fw-la prorsus_fw-la concessum_fw-la est_fw-la the_o priest_n only_o of_o the_o jew_n have_v power_n not_o to_o purge_v the_o lepre_n of_o the_o body_n but_o to_o try_v they_o that_o be_v purge_v but_o true_o unto_o our_o priest_n it_o be_v give_v utter_o to_o cleanse_v not_o the_o lepre_n of_o the_o body_n but_o the_o filth_n of_o the_o soul_n mark_v reader_n these_o word_n to_o cleanse_v and_o not_o to_o try_v who_o be_v clean_o if_o our_o priest_n do_v so_o far_o pass_v the_o priest_n of_o the_o law_n and_o yet_o no_o leprous_a man_n may_v be_v admit_v into_o the_o temple_n and_o communion_n of_o the_o jew_n until_o the_o only_a priest_n of_o moses_n law_n have_v declare_v he_o to_o be_v clean_o much_o less_o can_v any_o mortal_a sinner_n who_o in_o his_o soul_n be_v leprous_a be_v ordinary_o purge_v but_o only_o by_o the_o priest_n of_o christ_n who_o now_o as_o s._n chrysostom_n say_v do_v not_o only_o show_v that_o man_n be_v purge_v but_o have_v power_n throwgh_o to_o purge_v the_o lepre_a that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o mortal_a sin_n of_o the_o soul_n but_o how_o can_v they_o discrete_o purge_v that_o which_o be_v not_o show_v unto_o they_o 8._o math._n 8._o when_o christ_n send_v away_o the_o leprouse_a man_n bid_v he_o to_o show_v himself_o unto_o the_o priest_n than_o he_o declare_v as_o in_o a_o figure_n of_o the_o law_n that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n a_o great_a sinner_n shall_v not_o be_v purge_v before_o that_o he_o have_v show_v himself_o that_o be_v to_o say_v have_v revel_v the_o sore_n of_o his_o hart_n and_o conscience_n unto_o the_o priest_n so_o have_v we_o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o necessary_a to_o confess_v all_o our_o sin_n unto_o god_n and_o our_o lepres_n or_o mortal_a sin_n also_o unto_o the_o priest_n of_o these_o two_o truth_n neither_o impugn_v other_o that_o be_v a_o continual_a practice_n of_o heretic_n to_o reprove_v the_o one_o kind_n of_o confession_n because_o they_o find_v sometime_o the_o other_o alone_o commend_v or_o speak_v of_o a_o wise_a and_o a_o good_a man_n will_v confer_v and_o join_v all_o truth_n together_o and_o not_o go_v about_o to_o destroy_v one_o truth_n by_o another_o as_o for_o gratian_n and_o all_o your_o hotchepotte_n of_o gloss_n i_o will_v leave_v for_o a_o more_o convenient_a place_n where_o perhaps_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v think_v worth_a the_o labour_n they_o shall_v be_v answer_v all_o at_o one_o against_o your_o heretical_a proposition_n i_o will_v set_v s._n basils_n catholic_a judgement_n it_o be_v demand_v of_o s._n basil_n qui_fw-la vult_fw-la confiteri_fw-la peccata_fw-la sva_fw-la 288._o basil_n in_o quaest_n compeud_v 288._o num_fw-la omnibus_fw-la confiteri_fw-la debet_fw-la &_o quibuscunque_fw-la &_o quibus_fw-la he_o that_o will_v confess_v his_o sin_n whether_o he_o ought_v to_o confess_v they_o to_o all_o man_n and_o to_o what_o soever_o personne_n or_o else_o to_o who_o hereunto_o he_o make_v this_o answer_n necessarium_fw-la est_fw-la confiteri_fw-la peccata_fw-la ijs_fw-la quibus_fw-la administratio_fw-la mysteriorum_fw-la dei_fw-la concredita_fw-la est_fw-la sic_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la olim_fw-la poenitentiam_fw-la egerunt_fw-la coram_fw-la sanctis_fw-la fecisse_fw-la comperiuntur_fw-la scriptum_n est_fw-la enim_fw-la in_o euamgelio_n quidem_fw-la quòd_fw-la
his_o word_n they_o will_v evermore_o have_v we_o stand_v in_o doubt_n but_o of_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o word_n they_o say_v in_o any_o wise_a we_o may_v not_o doubt_v harding_n our_o doubt_n be_v not_o whether_o god_n word_n ought_v to_o be_v believe_v no_o man_n doubt_v thereof_o but_o only_o what_o be_v the_o meaning_n thereof_o and_o then_o beside_o to_o understand_v it_o the_o better_a we_o join_v universal_a tradition_n with_o it_o and_o in_o all_o further_a doubt_n we_o say_v the_o pope_n or_o the_o general_n council_n be_v the_o high_a and_o last_o judge_n in_o earth_n to_o declare_v unto_o we_o the_o meaning_n of_o god_n word_n otherwise_o we_o shall_v never_o have_v a_o end_n of_o controversy_n as_o we_o see_v by_o experience_n between_o the_o lutheran_n and_o zwinglians_n jewel_o pag._n 200._o &_o 201._o how_o know_v you_o say_v m._n harding_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n whereby_o to_o discern_v the_o true_a scripture_n from_o the_o false_a so_o say_v s._n luc._n s._n in_o prooemi_a in_o luc._n ambrose_n s._n 22._o s._n count_v fau_fw-fr lib._n 22._o augustin_n and_o 2._o and_o 80._o li._n 6._o ca._n 2._o eusebius_n yet_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n be_v above_o the_o scripture_n harding_n if_o the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n to_o discern_v the_o true_a scripture_n from_o the_o false_a shall_v it_o not_o also_o have_v the_o same_o wisdom_n of_o god_n to_o expound_v the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o also_o to_o determine_v any_o question_n arise_v thereon_o neither_o do_v we_o say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v above_o the_o scripture_n in_o authority_n but_o that_o it_o be_v to_o we_o better_o know_v and_o as_o a_o more_o lively_a so_o a_o more_o plain_a teacher_n than_o the_o scripture_n be_v for_o if_o we_o ask_v the_o scripture_n any_o question_n 1_o clemens_n alexand._n li._n stron_fw-la 1_o be_v it_o 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to_o show_v we_o the_o true_a scripture_n to_o approve_v the_o true_a scripture_n and_o to_o condemn_v the_o false_a forgery_n 18._o luc._n 10._o mat._n 18._o christ_n say_v general_o of_o all_o matter_n he_o that_o hear_v you_o hear_v i_o item_n he_o that_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o church_n the_o third_o chapter_n jewel_n defence_n pag._n 103._o &_o 104._o m._n harding_n say_v there_o be_v seven_o sacrament_n which_o as_o he_o say_v do_v not_o only_o signify_v a_o holy_a thing_n but_o also_o do_v make_v holy_a those_o to_o who_o they_o be_v adhibit_v but_o how_o can_v matrimony_n sanctify_v a_o man_n and_o make_v he_o holy_a or_o by_o what_o institution_n of_o christ_n contain_v it_o grace_n in_o itself_o and_o power_n to_o sanctify_v harding_n 5._o ephes_n 5._o s._n paul_n answer_v you_o thus_o you_o husband_n love_v your_o wife_n as_o christ_n have_v love_v his_o church_n and_o then_o he_o prove_v the_o wife_n to_o be_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o husband_n as_o also_o the_o church_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o both_o way_n the_o prophecy_n of_o adam_n be_v verify_v 2._o gen._n 2._o that_o two_o shall_v be_v in_o one_o flesh_n sacramentum_fw-la hoc_fw-la magnum_fw-la est_fw-la in_o christ_n &_o ecclesia_fw-la mystery_n sacrament_n mystery_n this_o be_v a_o great_a sacrament_n or_o a_o great_a mystery_n in_o christ_n and_o the_o church_n for_o we_o stand_v not_o now_o upon_o the_o word_n but_o upon_o the_o thing_n what_o be_v that_o great_a mystery_n first_o matrimony_n be_v always_o a_o conjunction_n of_o two_o in_o one_o both_o by_o natural_a consent_n of_o mind_n and_o also_o if_o it_o be_v consummate_v by_o corporal_a conjunction_n now_o by_o christ_n institution_n that_o conjunction_n be_v also_o make_v inseparable_a 19_o matt._n 19_o when_o he_o say_v that_o which_o god_n have_v join_v together_o let_v not_o man_n separate_v or_o put_v a_o 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