Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	faith_n	justify_v	work_n	4,711	5	6.9461	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A13298	A rejoynder to the reply published by the Iesuites vnder the name of William Malone. The first part. Wherein the generall answer to the challenge is cleared from all the Iesuites cavills	Synge, George, 1594-1653.	1632 (1632)	STC 23604; ESTC S118086	381,349	430

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end_v not_o so_o much_o as_o in_o a_o scratch_n or_o scar_n and_o whereas_o he_o say_v we_o fence_v with_o scripture_n only_o it_o seem_v he_o know_v not_o the_o nature_n thereof_o otherwise_o he_o will_v repute_v it_o with_o the_o apostle_n a_o sword_n for_o a_o soldier_n yea_o sharp_a than_o a_o two-edged_a sword_n we_o acknowledge_v many_o subsidiarie_n help_v but_o indeed_o none_o sufficient_a to_o control_v the_o conscience_n but_o scripture_n only_o and_o herein_o we_o follow_v these_o ancient_a heretic_n 1._o august●●●_n cite_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n and_o unanswered_a by_o the_o jesuite_n let_v humane_a writing_n be_v remove_v let_v god_n voice_n sound_n donati_n aug._n de_fw-fr pastor_n c._n 14._o a●ferantur_fw-la chartae_fw-la humanae_fw-la son●●t_fw-la vo●●s_fw-la divinae_fw-la ede_fw-mi mihi_fw-la unam_fw-la scripturae_fw-la ●ocem_fw-la pro_fw-la parte_fw-la donati_n and_o further_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v let_v they_o declare_v their_o church_n if_o they_o be_v able_a not_o in_o the_o speech_n and_o rumour_n of_o the_o african_n not_o in_o counsel_n of_o their_o bishop_n not_o in_o the_o passage_n of_o their_o dispute_n not_o in_o their_o ●ignes_n &_o deceitful_a wonder_n because_o even_o against_o these_o thing_n the_o word_n of_o god_n have_v persuade_v we_o to_o be_v ●a●y_n but_o in_o the_o law_n prophet_n psalm_n the_o pastor_n voice_n the_o evangelist_n preach_v and_o labour_n that_o be_v in_o all_o the_o canonical_a authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n authoritatibus_fw-la scripture_n aug._n de_fw-fr vnit._n eccle._n c._n 88_o ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la demonstrant_fw-la si_fw-la possunt_fw-la non_fw-la i●_n sermonibus_fw-la &_o rumoribus_fw-la afrorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o concilijs_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o literis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d libet_fw-la disputatorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o signis_fw-la &_o prodigijs_fw-la ●alla●ibus_fw-la qui_fw-la etiam_fw-la contra_fw-la ista_fw-la verbo_fw-la domini_fw-la pr●parati_fw-la &_o cauti●●ddi●i_fw-la sumus_fw-la

sed_fw-la i●_n praescripto_fw-la legis_fw-la in_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la praedictis_fw-la in_fw-la psalmorum_fw-la cantibus_fw-la in_fw-la ipsius_fw-la pastoris_fw-la vocibus_fw-la in_fw-la evangeli●●a●um_fw-la praedication●bus_fw-la &_o laboribus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la canonicis_fw-la sanct●●um_fw-la libr●●●m_fw-la authoritatibus_fw-la how_o fair_o this_o heretic_n augustine_n oppose_v this_o catholic_a jesuite_n and_o further_o the_o same_o father_n in_o a_o point_n of_o controversy_n open_o profess_v we_o ought_v not_o to_o depart_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o divine_a scripture_n to_o which_o alone_o in_o this_o matter_n faith_n be_v to_o be_v give_v debemus_fw-la give_v aug_n de_fw-fr gen._n ad_fw-la li●_n l._n 12._o c._n 33._o ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la quibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d lis_fw-fr de_fw-fr hac_fw-la r●_n fides_fw-la habenda_fw-la est_fw-la recedere_fw-la non_fw-la debemus_fw-la and_o before_o this_o heretic_n irenaus_n a_o more_o ancient_a one_o in_o the_o same_o book_n which_o the_o jesuite_n direct_v we_o to_o s●e_v agree_v with_o we_o we_o have_v by_o none_o other_o know_n say_v he_o to_o obtain_v salvation_n but_o by_o those_o that_o bring_v the_o gospel_n to_o we_o for_o what_o first_o they_o preach_v that_o by_o the_o will_n of_o god_n they_o deliver_v to_o we_o in_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o aftertime_n it_o may_v be_v the_o foundation_n and_o pillar_n of_o our_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d faith_n irenaeus_n l._n 3._o ●●_o non_fw-la per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dispositionem_fw-la nostrae_fw-la sal●tis_fw-la cognovimus_fw-la quam_fw-la pereos_fw-la per_fw-la quos_fw-la evangelium_fw-la per●●nit_fw-la ad_fw-la ●o●_n quod_fw-la quidem_fw-la ●un●_n praeconiave●●nt_fw-la postea_fw-la 〈◊〉_d per_fw-la dei_fw-la 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d crunt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o this_o which_o have_v be_v speak_v we_o find_v our_o appeal_v to_o scripture_n alone_o as_o the_o absolute_a rule_n of_o faith_n not_o to_o be_v the_o only_a practice_n of_o heretic_n as_o the_o jesuite_n will_v have_v it_o but_o of_o the_o most_o catholic_n father_n themselves_o &_o indeed_o so_o uncontrolled_a a_o rule_n it_o be_v in_o point_n of_o faith_n to_o be_v judge_v by_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n that_o never_o any_o heretic_n do_v deny_v the_o same_o till_o papist_n tyrannize_v over_o the_o truth_n bring_v in_o new_a faith_n which_o can_v not_o be_v justify_v by_o the_o old_a rule_n and_o as_o all_o acknowledge_v this_o rule_n most_o absolutes_n so_o heretic_n as_o well_o as_o catholic_n use_v to_o justify_v their_o opinion_n by_o other_o mean_n also_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o e●nomius_n be_v more_o behold_v to_o his_o logic_n then_o scripture_n for_o he_o be_v paint_v out_o by_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n as_o a_o most_o cunning_a sophister_n callidissimus_fw-la sophister_n alphons_n castro_n adv_o haer._n l._n 5._o de_fw-fr deo_fw-la haer_fw-mi 10._o eunomius_n artis_fw-la dialecticae_fw-la callidissimus_fw-la beside_o the_o montanist_n when_o they_o be_v overcome_v by_o force_n of_o argument_n flee_v for_o shift_n &_o refuge_n unto_o martyr_n report_v themselves_o to_o have_v many_o dicentes_fw-la many_o eusebius_n eccles_n hist_o l._n 5._o c._n 14._o quando_fw-la igitur_fw-la in_o cunctis_fw-la iftis_n redarguti_fw-la argumentis_fw-la destituunt●r_fw-la admartyre_n confugere_fw-la nituntur_fw-la multos_fw-la se_fw-la martyr_n habere_fw-la arque_fw-la illud_fw-la certum_fw-la prophetici_fw-la spiritus_fw-la qui_fw-la apud_fw-la ipsos_fw-la sit_fw-la documentum_fw-la esse_fw-la dicentes_fw-la nay_o what_o practice_n have_v the_o papist_n for_o the_o most_o part_n that_o heretic_n have_v not_o sometime_o they_o plead_v the_o church_n infirmi_fw-la church_n opus_fw-la imperf_n in_o mat._n hom_n 49._o nunc_fw-la autem_fw-la singulatim_fw-la professores_fw-la haeresium_fw-la diversarum_fw-la dicunt_fw-la ecce_fw-la hic_fw-la est_fw-la christus_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la et_fw-la illic_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quia_fw-la jam_fw-la non_fw-la audiendo_fw-la dogmatum_fw-la verba_fw-la sed_fw-la videndo_fw-la eorum_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la christiani_n scandalizantur_fw-la infirmi_fw-la sometime_o father_n sentire_fw-la father_n see_v dioscorus_n cite_v by_o the_o most_o reverend_a the_o lord_n primate_n pag._n 24._o alanus_fw-la copus_n dial._n 6._o c._n 22._o veteres_n haeretici_fw-la cum_fw-la patres_fw-la ipsis_fw-la apertissimè_fw-la adversarentu●_n choose_fw-la tamen_fw-la à_fw-la se_fw-la stare_n magnâ_fw-la contentione_n clamab●nt_fw-la baron_fw-fr annal._n a_o 431._o num_fw-la 170._o sed_fw-la mirum_fw-la dictu_fw-la quam_fw-la calumniose_fw-la ad_fw-la svam_fw-la ipserum_fw-la haeresim_fw-la astruendam_fw-la citare_fw-la ijdem_fw-la nestoriani_fw-la consueverint_fw-la sanctos_fw-la patres_fw-la quantâque_fw-la mentiri_fw-la jactantiâ_fw-la universos_fw-la fermè_fw-la orbis_n episcopos_fw-la secum_fw-la sentire_fw-la sometime_o tradition_n vocem_fw-la tradition_n euseb_n eccl._n ●ist_v l._n 5._o c._n 25._o dicunt_fw-la samosateni_n majores_fw-la omnes_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsos_fw-la apostolos_fw-la ●a_n sensisse_fw-la ac_fw-la do●nisse_fw-la quae_fw-la ipsi_fw-la nunc_fw-la dicunt_fw-la servatamque_fw-la eam_fw-la praedicationis_fw-la veritatem_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la tempora_fw-la victoris_fw-la qui_fw-la 13._o â_fw-la petro_n romanorum_fw-la episcopus_fw-la fuit_fw-la irenaeus_n advers._fw-la haer_fw-mi l_o 3_o c._n 2._o non_fw-la enim_fw-la per_fw-la literas_fw-la traditam_fw-la illam_fw-la sed_fw-la per_fw-la vivam_fw-la vocem_fw-la sometime_o counsel_n etc._n counsel_n epi●tola_fw-la quorundam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la episcopum_fw-la rueful_a apud_fw-la binnium_n inter_fw-la acta_fw-la conc._n ephesin_n o_o ecumen_n tom._n 3._o c._n 13._o no●_n autem_fw-la in_o sanctorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la qui_fw-la apud_fw-la nicaeam_fw-la convenerant_fw-la caeterorumque_fw-la qui_fw-la post_fw-la illos_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la claruerunt_fw-la eustachij_fw-la antiocheni_n basilij_fw-la caesariensis_n gregorij_fw-la joannis_n athanasy_n theophili_n damasi_fw-la romani_fw-la ambrosij_n mediclanensis_fw-la reliquorumque_fw-la qui_fw-la cum_fw-la memora●is_fw-la consentiunt_fw-la doctrinâ_fw-la perseveramus_fw-la etc._n etc._n sometime_o miracle_n decoelo_fw-la miracle_n august_n in_o johan._n tract_n 13._o pontius-fecit_a miraculum_fw-la &_o dona●us_a ora●it_n &_o respondit_fw-la ei_fw-la deus_fw-la decoelo_fw-la sometime_o vision_n 18._o vision_n august_n ibid._n &_o the_o uni●at_a eccle_n c._n 18._o neither_o be_v they_o so_o naked_a but_o they_o have_v your_o great_a argument_n of_o succession_n concilio●_n succession_n aug._n epist_n 165._o ad_fw-la generosum_fw-la synod_n lateran_n apud_fw-la bin._n secreta●sive_a consult_v 4._o haec_fw-la pi●tatis_fw-la dogmata_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la nobis_fw-la qui_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la praesentialiter_fw-la viderunt_fw-la &_o ministri_fw-la verbi_fw-la facti_fw-la sunt_fw-la eorumque_fw-la discipuli_fw-la &_o successores_fw-la &_o sequent_a à_fw-la deo_n inspira●i_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la doctores_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la sanctae_fw-la &_o universales_fw-la quinque_fw-la synodi_fw-la bea●orum_fw-la &_o à_fw-la d●●_n inspiratorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o 〈◊〉_d &_o in_o hanc_fw-la regiam_fw-la civitatem_fw-la nec_fw-la non_fw-la in_o ephesium_n primùm_fw-la &_o in_o chalcedonan_n &_o iterum_fw-la in_o constantinopolim_n in_o 5._o congregati_fw-la sunt_fw-la concilio●_n also_o &_o yet_o we_o must_v be_v heretic_n because_o we_o appeal_v to_o the_o scripture_n as_o ●_o most_o absolute_a rule_n of_o faith_n vaenitas_fw-la vaenitutum_fw-la i_o will_v have_v the_o jesuit_n consider_v that_o although_o some_o of_o these_o blind_a wretch_n he_o name_v can_v not_o see_v god_n in_o the_o flesh_n yet_o none_o of_o they_o be_v so_o blind_a that_o they_o can_v not_o perceive_v light_n in_o the_o sun_n the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o the_o word_n in_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n &_o they_o who_o impudence_n dare_v deny_v any_o thing_n can_v not_o deny_v god_n rule_n to_o be_v the_o scripture_n for_o the_o heretic_n maximus_n as_o he_o call_v he_o if_o he_o speak_v no_o worse_o then_o in_o defence_n of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n we_o may_v give_v he_o the_o privilege_n allow_v to_o the_o devil_n that_o sometime_o he_o may_v speak_v truth_n as_o the_o other_o acknowledge_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o to_o agree_v with_o a_o heretic_n in_o truth_n be_v not_o to_o be_v heretical_a but_o as_o the_o jesuite_n interprete_v his_o meaning_n not_o any_o whit_n to_o regard_v those_o say_n which_o be_v not_o scripture_n and_o herein_o if_o the_o jesuite_n do_v we_o right_o he_o will_v acquit_v we_o for_o we_o give_v the_o ancient_a church_n so_o much_o honour_n that_o we_o make_v she_o the_o great_a witness_n of_o god_n truth_n though_o we_o deny_v she_o to_o be_v the_o truth_n itself_o or_o rule_v of_o faith_n and_o whereas_o s._n hierome_n be_v bring_v answer_v the_o lucifrians_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o flatter_v themselves_o too_o much_o because_o they_o seem_v to_o have_v scripture_n for_o what_o they_o affirm_v for_o even_o the_o devil_n have_v allege_v scripture_n which_o consist_v not_o in_o read_v but_o in_o understanding_n 3●_n understanding_n reply_v pag._n 3●_n what_o be_v this_o to_o we_o nay_o with_o what_o corruption_n and_o falsehood_n do_v the_o jesuite_n drag_v this_o place_n of_o hierome_n against_o the_o author_n intent_n and_z meaning_n for_o the_o jesuite_n urge_v it_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o their_o determinative_a power_n when_o that_o father_n press_v the_o same_o against_o a_o show_n

of_o scripture_n as_o the_o devil_n use_v they_o in_o his_o allegation_n against_o our_o saviour_n or_o pope_n in_o their_o 〈◊〉_d corrupt_o and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o according_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o true_a meaning_n of_o the_o text_n yet_o that_o scripture_n be_v the_o only_a sufficient_a rule_n be_v so_o general_o a_o receive_a truth_n that_o never_o any_o heretic_n deny_v the_o same_o for_o although_o many_o of_o they_o deny_v some_o scripture_n yet_o they_o confess_v those_o which_o they_o acknowledge_v divine_a to_o be_v deliver_v to_o the_o church_n to_o reveal_v god_n will_n and_o to_o determine_v all_o doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n and_o controversy_n of_o faith_n by_o and_o whereas_o this_o wise_a of_o his_o brethren_n will_v persuade_v that_o we_o to_o cloak_n our_o error_n with_o a_o show_n of_o piety_n will_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o sentence_n of_o any_o judge_n whatsoever_o but_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n 32_o reply_v pag._n 32_o the_o jesuite_n be_v here_o 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