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or_o dimish_v therefrom_o what_o shall_v become_v of_o they_o who_o have_v charge_n to_o keep_v it_o shall_v let_v it_o whole_o be_v lose_v and_o shall_v imagine_v nevertherlesse_a that_o they_o can_v err_v but_o when_o all_o the_o rest_n shall_v be_v lose_v by_o what_o special_a privilege_n shall_v this_o epistle_n of_o saint_n jude_n be_v save_v which_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o shortness_n of_o it_o may_v be_v lose_v with_o the_o first_o as_o for_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o prophet_n that_o have_v be_v lose_v when_o he_o have_v answer_v the_o place_n of_o saint_n augustine_n above_o allege_v we_o shall_v see_v what_o shall_v be_v meet_a to_o reply_v thereto_o 18._o aug._n the_o ciâ—_n dei_fw-la l._n 18._o in_o the_o mean_a while_o he_o persi_v in_o his_o trifle_a impertinence_n to_o allege_v unto_o we_o still_o the_o authority_n of_o our_o doctor_n who_o do_v not_o always_o agree_v in_o the_o exposition_n of_o all_o place_n though_o they_o always_o agree_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o 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