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A42764 A late dialogue betwixt a civilian and a divine concerning the present condition of the Church of England in which, among other particulars, these following are especially spoken of ... Gillespie, George, 1613-1648. 1644 (1644) Wing G753; ESTC R15751 28,350 44

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that_o episcopal_a government_n be_v inconsistent_a with_o monarchy_n with_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o kingdom_n with_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o subject_a with_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n with_o piety_n etc._n etc._n sure_o that_o same_o author_n will_v be_v ready_a to_o answer_v i_o that_o this_o must_v be_v prove_v from_o their_o receive_a principle_n nor_o from_o particular_a practice_n now_o that_o minister_n preach_v treason_n camsa_fw-la or_o commit_v any_o other_o trespass_n punishable_a by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n be_v not_o to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n nor_o any_o civil_a court_n but_o may_v appeal_v from_o all_o these_o to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a judicatory_n be_v none_o of_o our_o principle_n but_o it_o be_v a_o popish_a and_o prelatical_a usurpation_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o british_a ecclesiastical_a constitution_n collect_v by_o spel●●an_a so_o that_o the_o oxfordian_a miss_v his_o mark_n extreme_o when_o he_o charge_v it_o upon_o 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the_o classical_a and_o synodical_a government_n m._n cotton_n will_v tell_v you_o it_o be_v just_a so_o in_o the_o congregational_a government_n of_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n pag._n 53._o as_o the_o church_n say_v he_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o thing_n which_o concern_v the_o civil_a peace_n so_o the_o magistrate_n if_o christian_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n in_o matter_n which_o concern_v the_o peace_n of_o his_o conscience_n and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n the_o latter_a can_v be_v deny_v in_fw-la thesi_fw-la no_o more_o than_o the_o former_a and_o when_o it_o come_v to_o the_o hypothesis_n there_o be_v much_o to_o be_v trust_v to_o the_o prudence_n and_o discretion_n of_o pastor_n and_o roll_a elder_n and_o when_o all_o come_v to_o all_o the_o fail_v be_v more_o like_a to_o be_v in_o the_o defect_n then_o in_o the_o excess_n but_o to_o say_v that_o a_o