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A66342 An answer to Mr. J. Humphrey's second printed letter wherein he publisheth Mr. Lob's objections against Mr. W's books. Williams, Daniel, 1643?-1716. 1695 (1695) Wing W2644A; ESTC R30208 9,049 10

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to the blessings consequent thereupon by virtue of the Promise Gospel Truth p. 54. You see I mean only antecedent to subsequent benefits by Gospel Constitution but speak not of Election Sir you omit one part of the Objection viz. That I should say the Conditions are legal c. I never call them so Nay p. 56. I affirmed That the Conditions of the Covenant of Grace differ from the Conditions of the Covenant of Works and proved it in five instances one whereof is that the blessings of the Covenant of Grace are meerly of Grace they be for anothers sake and not our own c. 9 Obj. Faith and Repentance are not Covenant Benefits Answ He pretends to Cite no place out of my Books for this and I never wrote any such thing But I have said God hath promised and Christ engaged in the Covenant of Redemption that the Elect shall believe Gospel Truth p. 60. The first Grace by which we perform the Condition is absolutely given p. 61. Christ purchased all Grace for us and by his Spirit worketh all Grace in us 248. There is a promise of the first Grace made to Christ and by virtue of that Promise the Elect consent to the Covenant 66. Now Sir compare all these things and judge whether your Author deserveth such trust as to adventure your Publication of these things upon his Credit Sincerity enclineth you to be too credulous for some Associates But I proceed to the other Objections your Author makes tho he never vouchsafed me a Copy of what he gave to many others privately 10. Obj. The Father was never displeased with Christ Gospel Truth p. 31. Answ I said the Soul of Christ endured the effects of God's Wrath and was amazed thereat but was never displeased with Christ It seems the Objector would have me say with Crisp that Christ was odious to God hated worse than a Toad c. because of the filthiness of sin upon him 11. Obj. All Communications of Comfort could not be interrupted whilst the Personal Union remained p. 33. Answ My words are This Union could not be dissolved nor could all Communications of Comfort or Strength from the Divine Nature be interrupted while the Union remained He leaves out or strength and changeth a disjunctive Proposition into an absolute I distinguish between the arbitrary Communications of Comfort and those which were necessary to Christ's Hope Trust Peace of Conscience as to his own Innocency to his Holiness Strength and the prevention of Despair what degrees of Comfort were necessary to these I affirm were not interrupted 12. Obj. Christ and we are not one in Conspectu fori and therefore tells us that 't is Blasphemy to debase him among the numbers of Transgressors Gospel Truth 41. Answ 1. Not one in Conspectu fori is not in any of my Books The words partly Cited are part of my Argument against the Crispian Change of Person whereby we are as Righteous as Christ and he as sinful as we they are these it is profane Arrogance for us to pretend to Christ's Prerogatives and its Blasphemy to debase Christ among Enemies and Sinners for whom he is the dying Sacrifice it s enough that he reserving the peculiars of a Redeemer should agree to dye for our Sins it s enough that we are pardoned and adopted for his sake who deserved endless Woe and were never capable of making the least Atonement Answ 2. If the Objector intends to represent me denying the guilt of Sin being once upon Christ he knows I plainly state and affirm the contrary P. 7. Our Sins were laid upon Christ with respect to the guilt thereof So that by the Father 's Appointment and his own Consent he became obliged as Mediator to bear those Punishments to the full satisfaction of Justice And p. 9. Christ did bear the guilt of our Sins which is that respect to the threatning of the Law whereby there is an Obligation to bear the Punishment Answ 3. I Suppose the Objector is now offended that I did not say with Crisp and his Party that Sin it self the filth and fault the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as opposed to the guilt was laid on Christ and that he was in God's esteem the very murtherer and Idolater Answ 4. I grant God esteemed Christ and Sinners so one as he that freely engageth to dye to redeem Sinners by dying in their stead and they in whose stead he so dieth are one But I shall ever deny that Christ and Sinners were so one in Conspectu fori as that God esteemed Sinners to dye to make satisfaction tho they when Believers are saved by Christ's Death as if they had made Atonement And also That Christ was the Sinner in God's Account when he died sustaining the Person of a Mediator 13. Obj. Mr. W. differs from himself having in his Writings several inconsistencies and self-contradictions Answ 1. This is put in for a Provision against all that occurs in my Books to debar the false Charge against me oh he contradicts himself when he utters things in fullest opposition to Socinianism c. Answ 2. And wherein do I Contradict my self The Objector thinks if I deny the Crispian change of Person or pecuniary Suretiship and one legal Person in a sense inferring our making Satisfaction by our own dying in the Laws estimate Then whatever I say of Christ's Satisfaction must be Socinianism and all I can utter against Socinianism is self-contradicting But if he call me to it I shall demonstrate that Christ being a Mediator Sponsor or subsequent Surety ex re gesta constituted such by the Covenant of Redemption and made under the Law pursuant to that prior engagement to obey and suffer in our stead what answered the ends of the Law that we might be saved in a way consistent with God's Glory as our Lawgiver will argue as great a change of Persons and Suretyship as will solve his feigned Contradictions And yet shall deny such a Compleat Change of Person which argues Christ to be the Sinner and the Redeemed to be as Righteous as Christ And in like manner shall deny such a legaloness and strict pecuniary Suretyship as argues we paid all our own Debts we satisfied the Law by obeying its Precepts and enduring its Penalty and so the Law of Works not the Gospel absolves us You may see the point partly statted in the last Leaf of Defence of Gospel Truth As to what he saith of my pretending an agreement with some Modern Divines who disagree with me I am sure I have truly recited their own words which so far express my Sentiments let him prove them self-contradictors if he can His flying Charge from the Premises as if Socinianism were abetted deserves no farther reply than to call it Slanderous All my arguments against Christ's pecuniary Suretyship he never read in any Book and had a Socinian urged them against a Truth they are not the less valid if urged against errours destructive to Christianity
And what if some Socinians use some Expressions in a sence contrary to that wherein I plainly use them They do also own a Commutation of Person and then they must be Socinians by as strong a Consequence who use that phrase If I have not in my Books said enough to clear me from all suspicion of that Error the objector's Malice must be the standard of Socinianism and not the fundamental positions which have by all its Celebrated opposers been hitherto confuted To omit Christ's eternal Generation as the Son of God of one Essence with the Father which I oft assert Could I say more as to his Satisfaction than I have ex professo done and oft with enforcing Reasons See Man made Righteous p. 7 9 10 11 12 15 16 35 to 42 229 c. I place the necessity of satisfaction in God's essential justice I describe it by Christs perfectly obeying the Law of Works in its essentials and doing much more as also in his suffering death in our stead I assert his Sufferings to be Punishments satisfactory to justice for our Sins that Christ was a proper Sacrifice and himself the Priest that offered it on earth I make his Obedience properly meritorious of all our saving Benefits himself a proper 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in his death with much more which I challenge him to prove consistent with Socinianism But some Men think they can gain a point among their Credulous silly Admirers by branding with a scandalous name all they bear an ill will to if not affright the Persons injured or at least their Friends But I bless God I have found more of his defence and am more assured of the goodness of my Cause than to be affrighted from my Duty by such Bug-bears And should all they of the same judgment with me expose the truth by little arts and trimming methods in pretence of designs never so plausible I shall have peace when my testimony is faithfully given as occasion shall offer by whatever implacable rage I am pursued I conclude Sir blameing your Credulity in Printing things as mine before Examination tho in most you declare your self to be of my side and in the rest farther from my Enemies Nor perceive I your Author's self-denial or peaceableness unless you think because I have been so injured therefore I must still by farther Suffering justify the injurious and bear the name of a hinderer of the Union because they who never were of it persecute me for my diligence in making and care to preserve that Union against their various and unwearied attempts from the first to break it And let me tell you that as they rested not till by their Errours noise of Doctrines and other Arts they had gained several to make this breach so a Compliance even to the allowing their Errours and Sacrificing the truth to their Lusts would be insignificant to bring such into the Union who refused it long before any of my Books were written or firmly restore such who by their influence deserted it unless God give a Spirit that shall prefer publick good to little designs and encline to Love and Peace above Division and Wrath. Experience of the unsuccessfulness of many overtures for Peace a narrative whereof would amaze the World induceth this Conjecture And yet no hardships I have endured shall abate a desire of a solid Union upon honest Terms You will find Dr. B's Mr. H. and Mr. A design no more than what 's agreeable to what I affirm and they hate the Errours I oppose And which tho so dangerous M. L. for Partysake will promote by blasting my Confutation and pressing an implicit disowning my Books as a term of Union with those who rejected it as sinful long before my Books were written Yea who influenced the dividing of P. Hall Lecture to break the Fond for poor Ministers that both these added to their stated seperate Meeting of Ministers at the same hour the United Brethren met a perfect Breach might be proclaimed And for a Grave-stone over it the only four Pastors in London who never came into the Union are with two more the only Lecturers at P. H. Could then the Subscribes to my Book be so false to Truth and their Ministry as to abate their Testimony Will a general Union ensue No Unless the Dissenters former Declaration against it were a Trick Why then so insisted on It 's because it will not be yielded to and so they get an Excuse long after this Subscription why they United not before it Or if complyed with then besides a Countenance to their Errors Men will judge the Presbyterians cause these Divisions altho they ask nothing of the Dissenters but to meet with them and be quiet And Lastly the English and Foreign Churches would affix the Crispian dotages to the Presbiterians for thus revoking their Testimony against them A Censure of which sort on a lighter occasion was going into the Press just as my Book so Subscribed came out I am Your Brother and Servant 〈◊〉 WILLIAMS