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chalcedon_n and_o will_v not_o let_v they_o so_o much_o as_o come_v long_o into_o the_o city_n to_o avoid_v their_o contention_n 6._o that_o what_o be_v do_v at_o last_o as_o to_o decision_n and_o deposition_n be_v do_v by_o the_o emperor_n he_o command_v the_o deposition_n of_o the_o leader_n of_o both_o party_n at_o first_o think_v that_o the_o way_n to_o peace_n viz._n nestorius_n cyril_n and_o memnon_n in_o the_o second_o petition_n of_o the_o oriental_n it_o be_v say_v advenit_fw-la ruâ—…us_fw-la magnificentissimus_fw-la magister_fw-la johannes_n qui_fw-la tunc_fw-la comes_fw-la omnium_fw-la largitionum_fw-la significantes_fw-la quod_fw-la à _fw-la vestra_fw-la majestate_fw-la trium_fw-la depositiones_fw-la decretae_fw-la sunt_fw-la tollend_v aque_fw-la è_fw-la medio_fw-la subâ—…ta_fw-la offendicula_fw-la solamque_fw-la fidem_fw-la in_o niceâ—…_n expositum_fw-la à _fw-la sanctis_fw-la &_o beatis_fw-la patribus_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la confirmandam_fw-la and_o according_o johan._n come_v do_v put_v they_o all_o out_o till_o the_o emperor_n mind_n change_v upon_o second_o thought_n and_o reject_v nestorius_n alone_o 7._o that_o these_o oriental_a bishop_n be_v all_o his_o subject_n as_o they_o oft_o profess_v as_o in_o their_o three_o petition_n in_o â—…rab_n pag._n 592._o non_fw-la illorum_fw-la tantum_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o noster_fw-la rex_fw-la â—…s_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la parva_fw-la portiâ—…_n regni_fw-la tui_fw-la est_fw-la oriens_fw-la in_o qua_fw-la semper_fw-la recta_fw-la side_n resulsit_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la hâc_fw-la etiam_fw-la alia_fw-la provinciae_fw-la &_o dioceses_fw-la è_fw-la quibus_fw-la congregati_fw-la fuimus_fw-la 8._o this_o johan._n come_v in_o his_o letter_n to_o the_o emperor_n give_v such_o a_o account_n of_o the_o fury_n and_o contentiousness_n of_o some_o of_o the_o bishop_n especial_o of_o cyrils_n orthodox-party_n and_o of_o their_o fierceness_n and_o fight_v one_o with_o another_o as_o shall_v grieve_v the_o heart_n of_o a_o christian_n to_o read_v it_o and_o have_v not_o he_o and_o candidianus_n keep_v the_o peace_n and_o rule_v they_o more_o than_o the_o pope_n do_v the_o two_o council_n for_o two_o they_o be_v may_v have_v try_v who_o shall_v prevail_v by_o blood_n cyril_n council_n accuse_v nestorius_n for_o keep_v soldier_n about_o he_o and_o not_o appear_v john_n council_n which_o be_v for_o nestorius_n accuse_v the_o egyptian_a meaning_n cyril_n for_o heresy_n turbulence_n set_v the_o world_n together_o by_o the_o ear_n raise_v sedition_n in_o the_o church_n and_o expend_v that_o money_n which_o be_v the_o poors_z in_o maintain_v soldier_n to_o strengthen_v they_o petit._n 3._o crab._n p._n 592._o §_o 21._o and_o that_o the_o pope_n govern_v not_o out_o of_o the_o empire_n nor_o any_o of_o the_o patriarch_n or_o christian_a prince_n then_o be_v intimate_v in_o these_o word_n of_o the_o oriental_n first_o petition_n have_v praise_v he_o for_o propagate_a religion_n in_o persia_n by_o the_o 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those_o bishop_n be_v say_v to_o apologise_v for_o receive_v his_o letter_n it_o be_v object_v that_o his_o epistle_n be_v a_o innovation_n say_v let_v they_o not_o accuse_v to_o we_o the_o epistle_n of_o the_o admirable_a prelate_n of_o the_o city_n of_o rome_n as_o a_o offence_n of_o innovation_n but_o if_o it_o be_v not_o agreeable_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n let_v they_o reprove_v or_o confute_v it_o if_o it_o be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o former_a father_n if_o it_o contain_v not_o a_o accusation_n of_o the_o impious_a if_o it_o defend_v not_o the_o nicene_n faith_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o they_o rest_v not_o on_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o author_n but_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o matter_n which_o be_v to_o be_v expose_v to_o trial_n §_o 23._o note_v also_o that_o whereas_o the_o great_a proof_n of_o the_o papal_a monarchy_n be_v that_o rome_n be_v call_v oft_o caput_fw-la mundi_fw-la &_o omnium_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la &_o sedes_fw-la petri_n 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