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evidence_n do_v they_o not_o disobey_v it_o let_v their_o constitution_n and_o practice_n be_v witness_n speak_v they_o not_o evil_a of_o the_o way_n of_o god_n before_o the_o multitude_n let_v the_o sermon_n of_o their_o minister_n in_o the_o pulpit_n &_o the_o speech_n of_o the_o prelate_n in_o their_o court_n bear_v record_n therefore_o say_v that_o 2.40_o that_o act_n 19.9_o act_n 2.40_o scripture_n act_n 19_o they_o be_v to_o be_v depart_v and_o separate_v from_o whereunto_o also_o may_v be_v add_v in_o this_o case_n that_o which_o peter_n say_v act._n 2_o save_v yourselves_o from_o this_o froward_a generation_n thidly_n be_v he_o object_v that_o paul_n do_v not_o separate_v from_o all_o the_o other_o jew_n as_o he_o do_v from_o these_o act_v 19_o and_o show_v it_o by_o act._n 13.14_o and_o 16.3_o &_o 21_o 23_o 24_o 26._o &_o 3.1_o we_o answer_v that_o the_o apostle_n have_v good_a and_o just_a cause_n so_o to_o do_v for_o first_o the_o jew_n etc._n jew_n rom._n 9.4_o levit._fw-la 20.22_o 24_o 26._o luk._n 1.6.8_o etc._n etc._n be_v the_o people_n of_o god_n separate_v from_o the_o world_n and_o set_v in_o the_o true_a waand_n order_n of_o god_n second_o 13.46_o second_o luke_n 24.47_o act._n 1.8_o and_o 13.46_o christ_n command_v the_o apostle_n when_o he_o send_v they_o to_o preach_v his_o gospel_n throughout_o the_o world_n that_o they_o shall_v first_o preach_v it_o to_o the_o jew_n thirdlie_o the_o jew_n ministry_n &_o ceremony_n be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n himself_o and_o give_v in_o write_v by_o moses_n the_o man_n of_o god_n etc._n god_n act._n 15.21_o and_o 21.30_o 21_o 22_o 23_o 24_o 25._o heb._n 8.5_o 13._o &_o 9.1_o etc._n etc._n be_v therefore_o now_o when_o they_o shall_v cease_v to_o be_v bury_v with_o honour_n these_o thing_n consider_v we_o see_v the_o apostle_n have_v just_a cause_n so_o to_o do_v as_o they_o do_v in_o those_o place_n mention_v but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o assembly_n of_o england_n which_o never_o yet_o be_v separate_v from_o the_o world_n nor_o set_v in_o the_o way_n and_o order_n of_o christ_n but_o stand_v in_o the_o 8_o the_o reve._n 13.16_o 17._o and_o 18_o 2._o 2_o the._n 2.3_o 4_o 8_o confusion_n and_o defection_n of_o antichrist_n who_o ministry_n also_o and_o worship_n be_v never_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n but_o etc._n but_o reve._n 17.2_o 4_o and_o 18.3_o and_o 9.3_o etc._n etc._n take_v out_o of_o the_o whore_n cup_n of_o babylon_n for_o which_o likewise_o god_n never_o give_v comaundement_n to_o go_v unto_o they_o but_o to_o 5._o to_o reve._n 18.4_o with_o 17.9_o 1_o tim._n 6_o 3_o 5._o depart_v from_o they_o as_o be_v daughter_n of_o the_o great_a babylon_n that_o mother_n of_o whoredom_n and_o abomination_n of_o the_o earth_n again_o even_o from_o those_o jew_n notwithstanding_o the_o reason_n aforesaid_a yet_o when_o they_o put_v from_o they_o the_o truth_n and_o will_v not_o receyve_v it_o the_o apostle_n depart_v and_o separate_v themselves_o yea_o and_o shake_v off_o the_o dust_n of_o their_o foot_n against_o they_o teach_v other_o to_o do_v so_o likewise_o act_n 13.46_o 51._o and_o 18.6_o &_o 28_o 25_o 26_o 27_o 28._o and_o 20.40_o and_o 19.8_o 9_o to_o that_o of_o master_n cranmer_n ridley_n &c_n &c_n be_v answer_v before_o and_o hitherto_o of_o their_o general_a assumption_n which_o be_v this_o that_o the_o whole_a doctrine_n as_o it_o be_v profess_v and_o public_o practise_v by_o law_n in_o england_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v a_o particular_a man_n a_o true_a christian_a which_o we_o have_v show_v to_o be_v untrue_a both_o by_o the_o exception_n and_o reason_n aforesaid_a which_o still_o stand_v firm_a against_o they_o as_o be_v manifest_a by_o this_o our_o defence_n touch_v the_o conclusion_n and_o now_o let_v the_o godly_a reader_n try_v all_o thing_n by_o the_o word_n of_o truth_n judge_v whether_o we_o or_o they_o hold_v paradox_n touch_v that_o he_o say_v of_o the_o reform_a church_n he_o be_v deceive_v if_o he_o think_v they_o allow_v 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