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A92206 Christmass revived: or An ansvver to certain objections made against the observation of a day in memory of our Saviour Christ his birth. By John Reading. M.A. And one of the prebends of Christs-Church in Canterbury. Reading, John, 1588-1667. 1660 (1660) Wing R445; Thomason E1053_9; ESTC R207981 15,390 23

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was more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of his fathers With these we may arrange that same faraginem of the Talmudists and if you will so call them heapes of traditions which crept into the Church of Rome to the corruption of doctrine and truth for which traditions the Papists so eagerly contend see their long Council of Trent and consider the vast difference between their traditions and our rites Popish traditions are generally against express Scriptures or necessary consequences thence to be deduced and of them some against the fundamentals of religion which none but the very ignorant or malicious can object against the rites of the Church of England Popish traditions properly so called are points which generally were never received by the Church or orthodox fathers thereof but rather generally opposed by them of the purest ages but ours for instance this concerning the observation of a day in memory of our Saviours nativity was never opposed untill of late years Popish traditions as also the Pharisaicall did make void the doctrine of God which none can justly object against us now we speak of Popish traditions properly so called for we are not of their number who call all that Popery which either they understand not or which agreeth not with their fanatical opinions for when they speak for truth and Apostolical traditions they do no more speak their owne then the Devil did speak his owne words or sence when in hope thereby either to gain credit to his lyes or to bring a suspition on the truth of the Gospel he affirmed Christ to be the holy one of God Luk. 4. 34. Mark 1. 24. Nay but when he speaks a lie then speaketh he of his own John 8. 44. All is not devillish which the devil said so neither count we all Popish which the Papists say when therefore they speak for those traditions whereby they slid away and continued not in the truth of Christ then speak they for their heaps of traditions such as their Council of Trent equalled with the dictates of Gods ●pirit in sacred Scriptures and such other inventions of man may hereto be added as the old Pharisees did or the modern now do obtrude upon their deluded hearers for doctrines whereby they elevate the commandement of God and as much as in them is make then of less power and authority with men and so force Gods commands to give place to old traditions as Papists do or to new as some therein as bad or worse now do And now bona vestra cum venia we would gladly be satisfied whether you who would fain pin your fancy of will-worship upon our sleeves do not you in your Classical traditions fall into a more just censure or suspition of will-worship and depowering the commandements God who expresly saith endeavour to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace Ephs. 4. 3. and Heb. 10 24. 25. let us consider one another to provoke unto love not forsaking the assembling our selves together but your tradition not so much valuing the unity and peace of Christ's Church as your own wills will not admit any to communicate with you except he can reach his conscience so wide as to subscri●e to your new discipline Gods word ●aith Rom. 14. 6. be that observeth a day observeth it unto the Lord and ver. 10. why dost thou judge thy brother or why dost thou set at nought thy brother and ver. 13. let us n●t judge one another and ver 15. if thy brother be greived now walkest thou not charitably destroy not him with thy meat for whom Christ died And ver. 17. for whosoever in these things serveth Christ is acceptable unto God let us then follow those things which concern peace and wherewith one may ●dify another but you would have all follow your rigid opinions or else you will neither hold communion nor charity with them bnt brand them with that bloody name of malignant then which you can say no worse but only reprobate Sect. 13. ANd if we once follow traditional divinity where shall we stop What will not unskilful confidence venter on Had you been well informed to●distinguish between traditions you might have spared your selves this trouble Certainly they that follow the Apostolical traditions or doctrine of the Gospel onely shall safely stop and rest satisfied therein which ●uide and constancy we heartily wish you but as yet know not that in ●our late-born discilpine vou follow ei●her who have so many off-sets of several Sects sprung from you as are oft to seek where to stop or of what religion to be I speak things too well known witnesse the miserable divisions which have torne in sunder the late happy unity of the Church of England Lastly you vainly trifle and would imply that we observing a day in remembrance of our Saviours nativity do therein follow traditionall divinity in your sence which is a parologism and silly begging of the question which a junior Sophister would account very absurd and ridiculous Sect. 14. GIve us a definition of that sin which the Scripture calleth will-worship If you know not what that is why take you up a medium to prove your opinion with which your self understand not could you teach who understand not what you say nor whereof you affirme if you do indeed know what {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} is why are you not theticall in laying down your own sence and definition thereof you that would catechise us concerning will-worship rather dispute fairly and your argument will thus lie Whatsoever the Scripture calleth will-worship is a sin But The Scripture calleth observation of a day in rememberance of Christs nativity will worship Ergo Obseruation of a day in remembrance of Christs nativity is a sin We answer untill you shew us where the Scripture so calleth it we shall laugh at your bold weakness who durst undertake this q●arrel yet to do you a curtesy we tell you that will-worship is any thing brought into the worship of God without his commands or by the without of man only which hath not its ground in ho●y Scripture As for our parts we worship n●ither time nor place though we cannot worship without these circumstances we worship God through Christ by whom he made both time and place Heb 1. 2. Gen. 1. Joh. 1. 2. Col 1. 16. we worship him by prayer thanksgiving preaching and hearing the holy word on that day w●ich being according to the will of God and the express word of God bewa●e that you bespatter not with your dirty terms of will-worship and the like we suppose you will not blame the Angels for comming from heaven that they might sing and praise God for Christs nativity on the d●y thereof and preach the same unto men O but say you you count it a holy day why not seeing according to the Custome of the Church of Christ we set it apart to Gods s●rvice But say you then Is not that will-worship we