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A29530 An answer to a book, entituled, Reason and authority, or, The motives of a late Protestant's reconciliation to the Catholick Church together with a brief account of Augustine the monk, and conversion of the English : in a letter to a friend. Bainbrigg, Thomas, 1636-1703. 1687 (1687) Wing B473; ESTC R12971 67,547 99

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