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A20950 A learned treatise of traditions, lately set forth in French by Peter Du Moulin, and faithfully done into English by G.C.; Des traditions et de la perfection et suffisance de l'Escriture Saincte. English Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; G. C. 1631 (1631) STC 7329; ESTC S111075 138,687 440

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were not Basils owne For saith hee the Authour of these questions see●es unwilling Bellar de Amis grat lib. 1. cap. 13 §. Respondeo to admit of unwritten Traditions But Cardinall Baronius affirmeth that To call this into suspicion or Baron annal t●m 3. anno 361. § 52. H●c in dubi●● rev●casse summa stultiti● sit doubt is a notorious sottishnesse And maintaineth these bookes to bee Basils as it is manifested by the stile Saint Hierome in his Catalogue and Ph●tius in his Bibliotheca put the Aschetickes amongst the Workes of Basil Yea more Gennadius composed Homilies out of pieces of Basils Workes compacted together amongst the which many were taken out of Ascheticks Wherefoer the conjecture of Erasmus is not improbable who made a preface upon Basils booke de Sanct. Spiritu Wherein hee professeth that having translated this booke to the halfe way he perceiued the phrase to alter and to be no more of the same authors for hee could discerne a palpable other vain Moreover though Bellarmine had something wherewith to defame and disgrace this piece of Ascheticks yet could hee cast no aspersion upon his Treatise of the true Faith where Basil affirmeth that it is a manifest revolt from the Faith and a brand of pride and presumption to reject any thing that is written or to introduce any thing which is not written Iesus Christ having sayd My sheepe heare my voyce Nor any upon that place 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 where Basil speaketh to Eustachius the Physician in his 80. Epist If faith hee custome bee of force for proofe of doctrine it shall bee lawfull for us in this to immitate them Let us then sticke to the arbitration and award of the Scripture inspired by God and hold the free suffrage voice of the truth to be on their sides whose doctrines shall bee found concurring with the divine words Neuerthelesse let vs consider what benefit our adversaries can derive from this passage about the which they make so much bruit and clamour In the first place Basil maketh a recitall of Traditions which he affirmeth to bee of equall authority with the Scripture yet amongst them there are many not approoved by the Church of Rome as prayer towards the East and making conscience to kneele on the Lords day and from the Paschal to Pentecost Most especially it displeaseth our adversaries that Basil in the Eucharist putteth the consecration in the prayer or in the invocation that is to say in speaking to God not in the bread If they beleeve Basil why doe they reject his Tradititions or if they beleeve him not why will they oblige us to beleeve him In the second place all these unwritten Traditions except the last numbred by the Authour of that booke are but ceremonies and lawes of Ecclesiasticall policy not necessary to salvation but subject to mutability and such as consequently make nothing to the purpose For our dispute is not of Traditions that concerne not the Faith and Christian doctrine but of those that concerne the doctrine of salvation not contained in holy Scripture Yet I cannot dissemble that the author of this booke be he Basil or whatere he bee isgreatly mistaken in his not onely equaling but also preferring both in height of dignitie and profoundnesse of mystery certaine petty ceremonies before the Sacred doctrine of our redemption contained in the Gospel Can any man without unsufferable injury not to use a more rigide exclamation equall ye preferre the Customes of standing at prayer on certaine dayes rather then kneeling Of praying towards the East rather then towards the West And of giving a benediction to the water or oyle before the doctrine of the incarnation of the Sonne of God the benefit of this death the justification by Faith the election eternall and the internall seale of the Spirit of God Can any man without impiety change any part or particle of these doctrines But as for those ceremonies they have suffered alteration and the Romish Church it selfe hath disparaged and debased them You see how preposterous and grosse our adversaries are who instead of covering the faults of those graue Fathers doe arme themselues with their drosse and refuse as birds that liue on nothing else but caterpillers And touching the last unwritten Tradition which is that men ought to beleeve in God the Father and in Iesus Christ his Son in the holy Ghost Is it possible that Basil where doe shine so many vertues and perfections never saw this in the Scripture For Iesus Christ saith at the 14. of Saint Iohn You beleeve in God beleeue also in me And in the 5. chap. 23. To the end that all men should honour the Sonne even as they honour the Father And as touching the holy Ghost how oft times is hee called God therefore when the Scripture biddeth to beleeue in God it cōmandeth to beleeve in the holy Spirit Now to excuse Basil we must say that hee calleth Traditions the doctrines that are not found in the Scripture in expresse words but are there in ubstance and in equivalent words And wee doe willingly entertaine such kind of Traditions Only hee is mistaken to have entermingled this high and divine Tradition amongst Customes and Ceremonies indifferent in their nature as things equally necessary and which ought to be regarded with like duty and reverence These words of Saint Hierome in an Epistle to Marcella are alleged Nos vnam quadragesimā ex Apostolica traditione tempore nobis ●ongrue ieiunamus unto us Wee fast one terme of 40. dayes at the time that wee thinke meete according to the Apostolicall Tradition This is but a ceremony and not a doctrine of the Christian Faith and we have elsewhere shewed that in the ages Au li●●e de la Nouveaté du Papisme liure 7 en la 5. Conrrovers● chap. 6. 7. neerest approching to the Apostles the Christian Church fasted but forty houres And that this fast was arbirtary and diversly practised The same Hierome against the Luciferians makes the Hereticke speake thus Knowest thou not that it is the custome of the Churches to impose hands vpon those who are baptized and so to invoke the holy Ghost Doest thou aske me where this is written I answere in the Actes of the Apostles And if there could not bee found authority of Scripture for it the custome generally observed in this point should serue instead of a commandement for many other things in like manner which are kept in use by Tradition in the Churches haue usurped the authority of the written Law as in baptisme to plunge the head three times and beeing come foorth of the washing place ●o taste the conjunction of milke and hony for a signification of infancy not to pray kneeling nor to fast upon our Lords day and through out the whole Quinquagesima or fifty dayes with many other unwritten things which mens indifferent observation doth chall●nge to it selfe Such is the language of the
hindred from choosing the best Church amongst many contrary How shall they choose Church from the false shall they know it in examining her doctrine by the Scripture that may not be for the Scripture is a Booke that the people are not permitted to reade and our adversaries affirme that the Church is not subject or bound to the Scripture and that the Church may change the same which God commaunded in the Scripture Shall they discerne the true Church by antiquity and succession nor that for the Syrian and Greeke Churches contrary to the Romish are more ancient then that of Rome deriving their succession from the Apostles and punctually to judge in this succession and antiquitie infinite Histories both Greeke and Latine ought to be read wherein the people vnderstand little or nothing And amongst the Clergie it selfe scarce one of an hundred is found that hath but ordinary or competent knowledge therein Hee that but entreth into the view thereof shall discouer the seat of the Romane Pontifies defiled with heresies and enormous crimes yea mangled and rent with Schismes that are decided by stroke of sword and according to the power of Emperours and Kings doeth the scale weigh downe Shall they haue respect to the generalitie and multitude no Iesus Christ calleth his Church a little flocke Luke 12. 32. and signifieth vnto vs that the multitude and broad way leade to perdition Math 7. 13 14. Shal they giue heed to miracles no the Apostle hath foretold us that the sonne of perdition who is Antichrist shall come with signes and miracles 2. Thess 2. 9. And Iesus Christ admonisheth vs that false prophets shall arise and shall make signes wonders to seduce Math. 24. 24. Now seeing that so many false miracles are wrought and the most predominant Courts of Iustice haue made many Decrees against the workers of them how and by what markes shall the poore people distinguish the true miracles from the false seeing there is no knowledge of the true doctrien declaring Gods will that we should discerne the miracles Deut. 13. v. 1 2 3. Briefly it is certaine that the Scriptures authoritie being no more the foundation and direction of the beleeuers faith all Religion vanisheth and turneth into smoke and there remaines nothing but to beleeue at adventure to follow the generalitie and like blind men to lay hands on him that marcheth next before vs. It is answered that in this perplexitie the people are to follow their Doctors and Pastors for they are the men that vndertake with God for the people What must euery man beleeue the Pastors of his owne countrey must they follow the Church wherein they are borne shall man owe his Religion to his birth or the custome of his countrey or the successe of affaires If it bee answered that by the Pastors and Doctors those of the Church of Rome are to be vnderstood therein lies the poynt of difficultie For the question is if those Doctors bee sound and good teachign the true way of health conformably to the Word of God which they conceale from the people in denying them to reade the holy Scriptures then are the people bound to beleeue that these are good Doctors before they know the good doctrine and that this church is the true church before they know or apprehend the truth They are also bound to beleeue what the church of Rome beleeveth not knowing what that Church ought to beleeue But if it be their tenent that every particular person bee assisted with the Spirit of God to bee able to discerne the true Church why hold they not that hee bee assisted with the same spirit to discerne the true doctrine and to examine it by the holy scriptures seeing that the true Church cannot bee distinguished but by the true doctrine for the true faith is first to be knowne before the true faithfull can be distinguished and the true rule is to be well vnderstood before those that follow it can be knowne Christ must first be knowne before there is possibility of knowing undoubtedly what Church is truely his flocke Adde likewise heereunto that the faith of the Romish Doctors dependeth entirely upon the Popes faith neverthelesse they for the greatest part doe beleeue that the Pope may erre and the Popes themselues doe confesse the same as wee haue elsewhere prooved Yea their errors are condemned by those Councels which the Church of Rome did allow And it is hard to beleeue that he cannot erre who boasteth of his authority and power to change that which God hath ordained to dispense with his commandements Add moreover that the greatest ●●atterers of the Popes that haue written their histories and liues doe lament the corruption of that seat and complaine of the traffique it exerciseth and of the infamous ●●ving of many Popes and their intolerable pride for what doth the Pope hee is advanced so far as to call himselfe God and the divine Maiestie to cause himselfe to bee adored to reach forth to Emperours a pantable to be kissed to dispose the crownes and liues of Kings and to release soules out of Purgatory insomuch as from a poore Biship of a citie who in the Primitiue time appeared not but in the martyrdomes is by degrees become a great Monarch of the earth that surpasseth in riches and treasure the greatest Kings of the world These things considered may we fix in our minds a just cause to suppose that the Pope is the same man that the Scripture hath foretold to come into the world to * 2 Thess 2. 7 8. Apoes 13. 11 2. Thess 2. ● 4. 9. Apocal. 17. 3. 4. 9. 18. Apocal. 17. 2. Apocal. 13. 15. lift himselfe up into the shrone of Roman Emperours stile himselfe God vaunt of signes and miracles he that should be● cloathed in scarlet should possesse his seat in a towne of seven mountaines which is Romes description should seduce Kings wage war against the Church and vanquish it and all this vnder the name of Christian assuming to himselfe the title and authoritie of Iesus Christ For so saith the Spirit of God in the 13 of the Apocalipse Hee shall haue the hornes of a Lambe but shall speake like a dragon These things having beene foretold aboue fifteene hundred yeares past no man since that time hath so swelled himselfe to so high a pitch as to haue these recived things appropriated vnto him but the Pope of Rome Is it by chance or adventure that such pre●ogatiues haue met in one man Surely these considerations are sufficient to cause a suspition in ●s that this is the man who should haue more authoritie then the Scripture that would haue himselfe beleeved when hee saith that the Scripture is subject vnto him and that he hath power to change it that is to say to contradict it For no man can extoll himselfe aboue the Scripture vnlesse it bee meerely to impugne it Now though man fearing God and touched with the zeale of his
Adversaries translation admitteth not this exposition Chrysostome in his Commentary upon Gal. 1. understandeth it the same way saying The Apostle saith not if they declare things contrary or if they pervert all but if they preach never so little other then we have preached or if they have altered any thing be it never so little And Theophilact after him The Apostle hath not said if they preach onely things contrary but if they preach other then that which wee have preached that is to say if they adde never so little more thereunto Tertullian in his booke of Prescriptions at the eight Chapter speaking of the Scripture In the first place wee beleeve that wee ought not to beleeve other then this And at Chap. 14. To know no other then this is to know all And at Chap. 29. If an Angel from heaven preach other then c. And truly the reason is plaine for if our Adversaries confesse that Saint Paul hath preached all that is necessary to salvation as well by mouth as by writing it followeth that hee not onely forbiddeth here to teach contrary to that which he hath taught but also that he forbiddeth to adde thereunto It is objected that Paul himselfe hath added to that which hee did preach when he wrote more Epistles after that to the Galathians and that Saint Iohn after him wrote the Apocalypse and are not therefore accused The vanity of this objection answereth it selfe for nothing can appeare wherein Saint Paul in his last Epistles or Saint Iohn in the Apocalypse have added to the Doctrine of salvation which Saint Paul had preached by mouth and digested into writing and which was already contained in the bookes of the Apostles and Evangelists written before this Epistle In summe what availeth it to dispute whether the Apostle condemneth those that preach other then or contrary to that which St. Paul had preached seeing that whatsoever is other then the Doctrine of the Gospel concerning our salvation is also contrary in as much as God forbiddeth to adde thereunto It is an unn●cessary worke to rehearse the passages of the Fathers who affirme that the Apostle condemneth those who taught contrary to that which he himselfe hath taught no man denieth it for whosoever preacheth contrary to that which Saint Paul taught preacheth also other then the Doctrine of the Apostle and addeth contrary things thereunto contractions being also additions to the Scripture Our Adversaries being repulsed from this refuge or starting hole finde out another and say that Saint Paul condemneth those who taught other then or contrary to that which hee had taught concerning the Doctrine of the Gospel but Saint Paul himselfe hath not set downe all in writing which hee hath taught this is that which they say without proofe or reason For who told them that Saint Paul was tender and forbare to booke downe all the Doctrine of the Gospell in writing Did hee it in spleene or was it of forgetfulnesse or fearing lest the people might become too expert in the Doctrine of the Gospel Surely they that speake thus are bound to open unto us some particular points that make a part of the doctrine of the Gospell which Saint Paul would not set downe in writing Is it invocation of Saints or papall Indulgences adoration of reliques succession of the Pope in the Apostleship of Saint Peter religious s●rvice of Images single life of Priests prayer in a tongue which the supplicant understādeth not or Masses to free soules out of Purgatory no Christian will beleeve it of these unlesse it bee such a one as hath a mind to bee deceived And this inconsiderate presupposition must be countenanced by some other proofe besides the testimony of our adversaries Saint Augustine gave no credit to August lib. 3 contralue●as Petiliani cap. 6. Si quis siue do Christo sive de eius Ecclesia siv● de quacunque alia re qua pertinet ad fidē vitamque nostr●m non d●●am si nos sed quod Paulus adiecit si Ange us ●e coelo vobis annuntiaverit pra●erguam quod in scripturu legalibus et Evangelicis accepistu anathema sit 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 it for he expoundeth this passage unto us by way of paraphrase If any man whether it concerneth Christ or his Church or any other thing appertaining to faith or government of life I speake not if any of us but that which Paul hath suggested if an Angell from heaven declare unto you other then you have received in the Scriptures concerning the Law and the Gospell let him be an Anathema And Chrysostome in his exposition upon the 1. chap. to the Galathians Saint Paul prefe●reth the Scriptures before Angels descending from heaven and that most justly And a little after Wherefore he denounceth that if any man preach unto you other then I have preached unto you c. To conclude how should those poynts before recited have beene preached by Saint Paul considering that in his Epistles there is found a flat condemnation of their doctrines If beside the holy Scripture there be some other word of God it were fit our adversaries should lay them in view fairely above board for the better avoidance of ail strife and controversie arising from them But they cannot Only they would have the Church of Rome to be beleeved and especially the Pope who is circumspect enough not to pronounce his owne condemnation nor to abolish the Traditions that are so beneficiall unto him Yea our adversaries themselves refute this when they say that the Apostles have not taught by mouth nor composed in writing all that is essentiall to Christian Religion CHAP. XXII Whether to ground a Doctrine it be lawfull to use words equivalent to those that are found in the Scripture or to vse consequences and Anguments SOme smattering and unquie● Iesuites perceiving themselves weake in the combate by the pressure of the evidence of truth have thought vpon a cavilling and impertinent course whereby to entangle the disputation at the very entrance and to prevent ever comming to the true scanning or examination of the doctrine Their cunning sleight is alwayes to question and interrogate insteed of keeping themselves to a regular and methodicall argumentation and as soone as wee open our mouthes they call to us Shew me that which you say word by word in the Scripture Now if there want but a syllable or if it happen that we use these words that is say or by consequent they fall into laughter and say that a Coach drawne by Horses is a consequent and so breake off alledging they have reduced us to consequences If we quote some passage of Saint Matthew or of Esay they aske whether the booke bee Canonicall if wee answer yea they require a passage of the Scripture that saith Saint Matthew is Canonicall If wee expound one passage by another they say shew mee a passage that alloweth this passage to bee expounded by that If we make an argument though it be
recte de Ecclesia sentit qui nihil admit tit nisi quod expresse in veteri Ecclesia sumpen̄ a●t factū ess● legit quasi Ecclesia osterioris temporis aut desierit esse Ecclesia aut facuitate non habeat explica●● et acclarandi costiruenat etiam 〈◊〉 qua au 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Christianon per●●on● doctrine defendeth himselfe in this manner He judgeth not rightly of the Church who admitteth nothing but what hee expresly readeth to haue ●en practised or done in the ancient ●hurch as if the Church of these ●tter times had c●ased to be a Church ● had not power to vnfold and d●clare ●a to establish and ordaine the things ●●at appertaine to fayth and manners ●f Christians This power then of ●he Pope over the life and crowne ●f Kings is not a divine Tradition ● or Apostolike but Eccl●siasticall ●rought in by the church of Rome ●n latter times that is to say by ●he Pope And when our adversaries attribute to the Pope the power of adding to the Creed and of making articles of Faith it is apparant that they hold the Pope able to bring in Traditions essentiall to Christian faith which the Apostles haue neither written nor taught by word of mouth This is that which Thomas Aquinas Them 2. ●● q● 1. are 10. Ad solam ar theritate 〈◊〉 ●●● 〈◊〉 is pertinot noua editie symboli sicut alia omnia qua pertinent ad toram Eccl●siam teacheth in the second part of his Summs saying It belongeth s●lely to the authority of the soveraigne Pope to make a new edition of Creed as also all things that concerne the vniversall Church Vpon which passage Andradius that assisted at the Counsell of Trent spake thus in the second Booke of the defence 〈◊〉 Pontifices ●●lte defini 〈◊〉 qua anto 〈◊〉 symbol● fidei 〈◊〉 consu 〈◊〉 of the Tridentine faith The Romane Pontifies in defining many things which had been formerly hidden haue accustomed to augment the Creed This question hath been moved to the Councell of Florence betweene the Greekes and Latines the Latines maintaining against the Greekes that the Pope and church of Rome may adde to the Creed Finally in the last Session is concluded in favour of the Latines Ipsi necessitate ●●gente iure suo particula● illam ex filioque symbolo app● 〈◊〉 licuisso that the Church of Rome hath right of power to adde to the Creed and in the margent is noted Rom Pontificis potestas the power of the ●ope for by the church you must ●understand the Pope To this doth the Iesuite Vasques ●gree who disputing of the Apo●les commandement that biddeth ●he people of Corinth 1. Cor. 11. vers 28 to eate of this bread and Vazques Tom. 2. Disp. 216. Nū 60. Licet cōcederemus hoc fuisse Apostolorū praceptū rithilom●n us Ecclesia summus Pōtifex potuerunt illud īustis de causis abrogare Neque enim maior fuit porestas Apostolorum quam Ecclesia Pontificu in ferendu praceptis drinke of this cup speaking thus Though we should graunt that it hath been the Apostles commandement yet neverthelesse the Church and the sove raigne Pope were able to abolish this commandement vpon just reasons for the power of the Apostles to giue commaundements hath not been greater then that of the Church and the Pope Seeing therefore that the Pope hath as much power over the Church as the Apostles and that the Apostles haue had the power to forme a Creed and to establish in the Church Articles of Faith which had not beene written before nor taught by word of mouth in the Church it followes that the Pope hath the same power and that he can forma a Creed or adde to that which the Apostles haue formed and can ordaine matters which the Apostles haue neither written nor taught by mouth Whereupon Leo the tenth in his Bull Exurge which is annexed to the end of the last Lateran Councell thundereth and pronounceth an anathema again ● Luther for having spoken amongst other things Certum est in manis Ecclesis aut Papa proorsus nō esse 〈◊〉 arti●ulos fides that it is no way in the power of the Church or of the Pope to establish articles of faith Salmeron the Iesuite is expresse in his 13 Tome and the third part Disp 6. ● est ergo Doctrina ●dei admitit additionē● essentialius of the sixth Disputation saying The doctrine of faith suffereth addition in the things that are essentiall These words are worth observation for if you beleeue this Iesuite the Pope and Church of Rome ●●ay adde to the Traditions that ●re called Apo●tolicall and to the ●● written word not only matters ●cciden●all but also essentiall not ●aught by the Apostles Which ●ikewise doth i●feere that the A●ostles haue not taught all that is ●ecessary to Christian Religion ●nd that then there wanted some●hing that was essentiall in the doctrine of the Apostles § Atque hoc c. Nec sub Apostolu omnia occur runt vt possent ab en omnia decidi Et in alio statu erat Ecclesia sub Apostolu quam sit modo vel fuen●● post illa tempra Deinde natura nostra non omnia simul doceri potest c. In iniurtam igitur spiritus sanct● qui vngit vnctione ●a membra Christi qui vsque modo operatur reiicitur quicquid non est dudum ab Apostolis c. Possunt ergo esse n●uae traditiones ad fidem m●res spectātes licet ab Apostolu nō sint condit● aut explicat● The same Iesuite in his 8. Disputation giues a reason why the Apostles haue not written nor preached all things The affayres saith hee in the Apostles time di● not so hit and fall out as that all things could bee decided and the Church at that time was of a condition differing from her now pr●sent estate and from her estate since that very time Moreouer our nature cannot apprehend all things at once but by progresse and succession of time neither is it capable of all truths at a time c. It were then to abuse the holy Ghost that an●oynteth Christs members with oyntment and that operateth vntill thi● instant to reject all that hath not bee● spoken by the Apostles Whereupon he concludeth therefore may ther● bee new Traditions concerning faith and manners though they were never made or explicated by the Apostles Now I leaue to judge with wha● conscience it may be maintained that the Traditions are ancient and Apostolicall seeing that our adversaries doe confesse that there are many of them moderne and new whereof the Apostles never spake word And to the ende that no man may conceaue these new Traditions to be spungie of no weight unnecessary or unessentiall to christian Religion he speakes directly that the new Traditions are touching faith and manners and that the ●●ctrine of the Christian faith re●●veth yet an addition even in ●ings that are essentiall
Greeke and Latine who very often jarre among themselues so far as not to agree vpon the next Successours to Saint Peter it is impossible that the people should know any thing in this succession o● should haue any assurance hereof but by the Testimony of those who brag of it and liue by it Moreover our adversaries doe confesse that the Pope and church of Rome may erre in the question de facto Now these questions to weet whethe● Saint Peter hath left the Bishop of Rome Successour of his Apostleship or of his Supremacy and whether this succession hath not beene interrupted by Schismes and heresies are questions de facto and consequently of the nature of those wherein our adversaries hold that the Church of Rome may erre And the proofes which our adversaries bring forth are drawne from books which theirselues conuince of falsity and from such fragments as for the most part are supposititious I forbeare to censure any further the certainty of Romish traditions seeing they are all founded vpon one Maxime which is a Tradition humane not vpheld by any Ordinance of God a Tradition which is not an Article of the Christian faith yet at this time is put downe for the ground of Faith a Tradition which is of the nature of those wherein our adversaries confesse that the Church may erre a Tradition whereof the people can haue no certainty nor knowledge but by bookes both Greeke and Latine of infinite length wherein they vnderstand nothing and by the Testimony of those especially who propose it that is to say the Popes who receiuing not the Scripture for Iudge cal themselues supreme Iudges and infallible in all controuersies more especially in that wherein is pleaded their succession and their owne proper authority and infallibility Now it is an easie matter to guesse at what the proceedings of the Enemy of our saluation doe levell Their butt scope is to distill as it were all Religion into a vapour and to make it depend vpon presuppositions not only vaine and vncertaine but also false and imaginary as he that should beare vp an obeliske vpon a smal feskue When some demand Wherefore is it behouefull to receive Traditions the answere is because the Pope hath ordained it Againe if it be demanded whence commeth this authority of the Pope it is answered Because Saint Peter dying hath left the Bishop of Rome Successour of his Supremacy over the Church of the whole world Moreouer when it is asked Can you produce any Ordinance of God for this succession for this point being estated by you for the foundation of the Church and of all the Christian faith it is not credible that God hath ordained nothing of it there they stand caught by the nose not vttering one syllable of the word of God and doe confesse that this succession is not lure diuino nor by the Ordinance of God Only the Popes will bee therein beleeued and call themselues supreme and absolute in a case wherein they are so much interessed and wherein it is disputed of their succession and authority Thus you may see all the Ius diuinum founded vpon a point which is not Iure diuino and all the divine doctrine founded vpon humane Tradition yea vpon humane Testimony the most vncertaine of all for the certainty of the Popes succession is founded vpon the Testimony and authority of the Pope himselfe who is party in this cause and who by this Tradition ruleth and vpholdeth his Empire Nay they doe worse they make not onely these Traditions but the very authority of the holy Scripture to depend vpon this Tradition Let it bee demanded wherefore ought we to beleeue that God hath created man after his owne Image that he hath giuen his Law to Moses in two Tables and that the Sonne of God hath taken flesh in the wombe of the blessed Virgine and is dead for vs It is answered that this is to be beleeued because it is written in the holy Scripture that God hath inspired his Prophets and Apostles Againe let it bee asked wherefore ought the holy Scriptures to bee beleeued and why are wee obliged to put our faith therein The answere Basiliensis Concilȳ appēdice Ecclesia Romana sic lequitur Qued autem verum feret Christi Evāge leum qu●m●de scire possetu nisi illud vobis patefeeissem Audistu nōnullos ex Apostolu scripsisse Evangelia Sed quo●iam quatuer duntaxat approbavi ● Ra vt Evangelia venerantur alia respuuntur is Because the Church of Rome hath so ordained it which hath this authority by vertue of her succession in Supremacy of Saint Peter But vpon this question haue you any commandement from God they answere the holy Scripture indeed speaks nothing of it but the church of Rome is supreme Iudge and hath more authority over vs then the Scripture Neverthelesse in this point it is disputed of the authority of the Church of Rome wherein it is no reasonable thing that shee should bee Iudge much lesse to assigne her selfe Iudge aboue the Scripture Doe but obserue what becommeth of all Christian Religion in the account of these Merchants Their will is that God should bee beleeued because men ordained it and that the diuine truth should haue no other foundation then the evidence and authority of lying men yea such as will bee Iudges in their owne cause and who hauing invented a thousand Traditions all tendi●g to their profit hold them all vp by one Tradition alone which hath no other foundation then their owne authority There is no such pernicious stratageme to pervert the Christian Religion as to confound the things that are certaine by vncertaine proofes to plead humane Tradition for their highest and concluding principle and to order that the Christian faith should haue a Maxime that is no Articie of faith and is vpheld by no other authority then of those that publish it and such as by this Maxime enrich themselues and build them vp an Empire on the earth yea all the Churches in the world except the Romish doe reject this Maxime and laugh at this succession as a story contradicted by all antiquity and especially by al the Bishops of Rome who whilst the Romane Empire was in florishing estate never intermedled in any affaire beyond the limits of that Empire as I haue proued at large in my first Treatise The second Maxime is of the same nature and dependeth vpon the first Our adversaries to maintaine all their Traditions say that the Pope cannot erre in the Faith and that likewise by vertue of the same succession For they will haue the Pope Successour not only of the power of Saint Peter but also of his infallibility Now if the Pope should be Successour of the Supremacy of Saint Peter it followeth not thereupon that the Pope cannot erre for hee that is Successour of the charge of another is not therefore Successor of his vertue The Doctors that haue succeeded in the chaire of Moses haue
may catch hold and graspe the hand which these men stretch forth to them to be conductours of their blindnesse Yet let us briefly observe what this succession of the Church of Rome may signifie or bee they bring us clauses of ancient Authours reporting the Bishop of Rome to be Saint Peters Successor and shew a Nomenclature of the Bishops from Saint Peter to this day but we finde that the ancients make such another Catalogue of the Bishops of Ierusalem and of Antioch whose succession is of greater antiquity then that of the Bishops of Rome The Bishops of Alexandria likewise draw out their succession from Saint Peter But our Adversaries will not have this succession to be esteemed for say they those Churches are hereticall and yet the same Churches also call the Church of Rome hereticall and schismaticall Herein then lieth the point of difficulty the ancients reckon up the Successours of Saint Peter and other Apostles in Iernsalem in Antioch at Rome and at Alexandria but they meane not they should bee Successours of the Apostles in the Apostleship they meane onely in the governement of such and such a particular Church planted by one of the Apostles So putting the case that Saint Peter founded the Church of Rome and was there Bishop which neverthelesse is doubtfull and mistrusted I will also agree that the Bishops of Rome of the first ages have beene Successours to Saint Peter but in the Bishopricke of the Church of the city of Rome onely In the same manner as Simon was Successame manner to Saint Iames the Apostle in the Bishopricke of Ierusalem and Timothy Successour to Saint Paul in the Bishopricke of Ephesus but not in his Apostleship Our Adversaries profit nothing by their allegations if they prove not first by testimonies both divine and irrefragable that God hath ordained Saint Peter to have a Successour in his Apostleship and that the Bishop of Rome was Successour to Saint Peter in the dignity of the head of the universall Church For ought not this succession to have come from God Did God establish a supreame and successive head over the Church of all the world without making any mention of it in his word And did Saint Peter himselfe forget to speake of this succession from whence we have two long Epistles See then whereupon we stand and how our Adversaries are taken All their Religion is founded upon this Tradition to wit that the Pope hath beene ordained from God to bee the Successour of Saint Peter in the charge of head of the universall Church hereunto they bend their force this is the scope of all the controversies And yet concerning this Tradition they cannot produce one poore divine truth nor one single word out of the word of God yea when it commeth to humane testimonies it is apparant that they are contrary to this Monarchicall succession of the Pope of Rome In one thing our Adversaries finde themselves much incumbred We demand of them when they speake of a succession whether they understand it of persons without succession of doctrine or of a succession of persons in the same doctrine If they understand a succession of persons sitting in the same chaire without succession of doctrine this succession is impious serving for a title of succession to make warre against God Hee that corrupteth the Doctrine of his Predecessors succeedeth them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as sicknesse succeedeth health and darknesse light so Gregory of Nazianzene speaketh in his Oration upon Athanasius To have the same Doctrine saith he is to have the same Seat but to have a contrary Doctrine is to have a contrary Seat one hath the name the other hath the truth of the succession c. Vnlesse a man will call it succession when the maladie succeedeth health and darknesse the light But if our Adversaries speaking of succession understand it of persons not only in the same Chaire but also in the same Doctrine this succession is excellent and a singular ornament in a Church no man can erre in adhering to such a succession for it carrieth conformity of Doctrine with the Apostles and before this succession can bee knowne it is behovefull to be instructed in the writings of the Apostles and in their Doctrine Such a succession is that whereof Iren. lib. 4. cap. 43. E● qu● in Ecclesia sunt Presbyteru obedire oportet his qui successionē habent ab Apostolus qui cum Episcopatus successione charis●a veritatis certū secundū placitū Patris acceperunt Irenaeus speaketh saying That wee ought to obey Priests who are in the Church who have the succession of the Apostles and with the succession of the Bishopricke have received the certaine talent of the truth Not acknowledging succession in the Bishopricke without succession in the truth of the Doctrine And Tertullian speaking of the Heretikes Their Doctrine Tertull. de praescr c. 21 I●sa eorū doctrina cum Apostolica comparata ex diversitate contrari●tate doctrina pronuntiabit neque Apostoli ●lic●ius auctoru esse neque Apostolic● being compared with that of the Apostles by the diversity and contrariety therein will plainely demonstrate that it hath not any Apostle for Authour nor any one that is Apostolicall Snatching this specious title of Apostolike succession from those who taught otherwise then the Apostles had done It is no small abuse when wee would know whether a Religion bee true or no to give us a list of Bishops in painting and pictures without knowing whether the latter doe teach as the first pinning religion unto the Chaires to the end to suppresse the true rules and institutions as also to divert the people from reading of the holy Scripture for feare lest they should apprehend the conformity in Doctrine with the Apostles which is the true succession We must note by the way that in the time of Irenaeus and Tertullian who wrote about six score yeeres after the Apostles it was easie to shew the succession Then I meane when the Churches wherein the Apostles had taught did hold one and the same faith I say when the succession was of no great length and the memory of the Apostles and their disciples preaching was fresh and familiar But now that the Churches which were planted by the Apostles are divided into contrary Sects and separated from communion and that the confusions abounding in space of some fifteene hundred yeeres have throwne downe so many Chaires and reared up others and that particularly the Bishopricke of Rome is turned into a temporall Monarchy and the Pope of a Bishop is become a temporall Prince this successive derivation of Chaires in the East and West is impossible considering that the entayle of this succession hath beene thousands of times cut off so that it is a meere imposture to enter into this lea of Histories and confusions to the end to examine the Traditions in stead of addressing our selves to the word of God CHAP. XVI That the Pharisees and ancient
Heretickes had recourse to Tradition and the unwritten word and that Clemens Alexandrinus suffered himselfe to bee too much carried away in the same THe custome of Heretickes both ancient and moderne is when they are at default in Scripture to have recourse to Traditions Iosephus in his 3. booke of Antiquities ch the 18. affirmeth that The Pharisees had very many observations by the successive Tradition of their Fathers which are not written in the law of Moses Whereupon Iesus Christ at the 15. of Saint Matt. the 3. 9. accuseth them to have transgressed the Law of God by their Tradition which Pharisaical Traditions were doctrines that for the most part commanded things not expresly forbidden in the Law of God as to clense their Pots and Vessell to wash their bodies at returne from Market to lengthen out their Phylacteries to fast twice in a weeke to poure forth longer prayers then ordinary to make conscience of healing the sicke or journeying more then two miles upon the Sabath This I observe to the end it may not be sayd that Iesus Christ condemneth them only for teaching things expresly forbidden in the law of God Tertullian in his booke of prescriptions chap. the 25. telleth us that the Heretikes of his time affirmed Non omnia volunt illv amnibus revelasle quaedā enim palam universis quadā seeretò at paucio demandasse That the Apostles had not revealed all things to all but that they had commanded some things openly and some in secret and to few But the same Tertullian after hee had written this booke applieth himselfe to defend the heresies of Montanus by the unwritten word speaking in the second Chapter of his booke of Monogamy that Christ De vtroque aute Daminus promus is avit Adouo habeo multa qua loquar ad ves c. pronounced his opinion thereupon when he sayd I have many things to tell you but you cannot at this time beare them away Irenaeus lived at the same time who in his first Booke and fourth Chap. saith that The Carpocratian Iesum in mysterio discipulu suis seersim lequmtum illes expostulasse vt dignis assentsentibus searsum hac traderēt Heretikes affirmed that Iesus had spoken in private to his Disciples and had required of them that they should teach these things a part to the worthy and to such as give their approbation thereof and in his 2. ch of the 3. booke Cum ex scriptur is arguuntur in accusationem convartuntur scripturarum quasi nō rectè habeant neq sint ex authoritate et quia varia sunt dicta quia non possit ex hu inventri veritas ab his qui nesetant traditionem Non enim per literat traditā illā sed per vivam vocem When they are confuted by the Scriptures they revile and turne againe to accuse the Scriptures themselues as if they were not as they should be and had not sufficient authority and because matters therein are diversly spoken and that in them the truth cannot be found by those who are ignorant of Tradition which they say was not givē by writing but viva voce by word of mouth Some twenty yeeres after the death of Saint Iohn one of his disciples named Papias Bishop of Hierapolis addicted himselfe to the unwritten 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Traditions the which were Parables and strange doctrines and other fabulous devices as Eusebius witnesseth at the last Chapter of the 3. Booke of his Ecclesiasticall History Clemens Alexandrinus a most worthy Author to be read but one who hath his infirmities venteth many vaine things and false doctrines drawne from Tradition as for example that the Greekes were justified by Phylosophy that Iesus Christ descended into hell to Preach to the Iewes that the Apostles also descended thither to Preach to the Gentiles and many other the like fancies all his bookes of his Stromatae are full of them especially the sixth The followers of Artemon the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Onones insipientisiumi haretici audacias sigm ●torū suorum juas maxime exhorret sensus humanus has occasione Evāgelica colorare nituntur vbi Dominus ait adhuc multa habeo vobis dicere sed non potestis portare mado quasi hae ip a sint qua tune discipuli portare non poterant heretick teaching matters not contained in the Scripture professed that They did exercise them from their predecessors yea from the Apostles as Eusehius hath it in the 5. booke of history chap. the 25. Saint Augustine writing vpon Saint Iohn at his 97. Treatise hath these words The most senselesse Hereticks who would be called Christians strive to colour their bold inventions which are abhorred by humane sense with the pretext of this evangelicall sentence where our Lord speaketh I have yet many things to tell you but you cannot beare them at this time as if these were the same things which the Apostles could not then carry we shall not therefore affront or wrong Cardinall Bellarmine if we ranke him amongst those which Augustine calleth most senslesse Hereticks seeing that hee speaketh as these hereticks imploying the same quotation to proove Romish Traditions speaking thus in the 5. Chapter of his Esse aliquas veras traditiores probatur testimonys Scripturarū Primum est Iohan. 16. Multa habeo ve●is i●er● sed non potest●● portare moda booke of the unwritten word It is prooved by testimony of Scripture that there are some true Traditions the first testimony is at the 16. of Saint Iohn I have many things to tell you c. Thus have the ancient Heretickes no want at all of Disciples CHAP. XVII An examination of the passages of Scripture whereon they found Traeditions OVr adversaries ground the authority of the Scripture upon unwritten Tradition whence it followeth if they had but reason for it that unwritten Tradition is not grounded upon the Scripture they contest therfore against themselves when they endeavour to ground Tradition upon the Scripture but let us heare their proofes In imitation of the ancient Heretickes they alledge these words of our Lord Iesus to his Apostles at the 16. of Saint Iohn verse 12. I have yet more things to tell you c. This is the passage that served the ancient He●erikes turne to proove their Traditions as Tertul. witne● f●th in his booke of Prescriptions Chap. 22. such imaginations if men would beleeve them are The succession of the Pope in the Apostleship of Saint Peter invocation of Saints service to images the power of the Pope to draw soules out of Purgatory c. And they pronounce this without any proofe save only because theirselves doe say it and the Pope will have it fo to be unto whom these Traditions are very gainefull But wee had rather beleeve in Iesus Christ who expoundeth himselfe in the same place for at the verse following he declareth to his Disciples that the spirit of truth