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A13295 A reply to a pretended Christian plea for the anti-Chistian [sic] Church of Rome: published by Mr. Francis Iohnson a⁰. 1617 Wherin the weakness of the sayd plea is manifested, and arguments alleaged for the Church of Rome, and baptisme therein, are refuted; by Henry Ainsworth. Anno 1618. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1620 (1620) STC 236; ESTC S122155 171,683 191

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be_v not_o true_a baptism_n i_o constant_o affirm_v so_o do_v mr._n johnson_n 110._o himself_o while_o he_o stand_v in_o and_o write_v for_o the_o truth_n that_o the_o papist_n have_v turn_v baptism_n into_o a_o idol_n i_o have_v also_o former_o 73._o prove_v and_o will_v maintain_v against_o his_o answer_n that_o therefore_o it_o be_v detestable_a and_o curse_a unto_o they_o through_o their_o abuse_n of_o it_o do_v necessary_o follow_v for_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o wicked_a be_v a_o abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n pro._n 15._o 8._o that_o it_o shall_v be_v no_o better_o than_o the_o daily_a wash_n of_o our_o face_n be_v wrongful_o impute_v to_o we_o and_o mr._n cl._n who_o he_o cit_v in_o his_o margin_n profess_v to_o hold_v no_o such_o thing_n for_o our_o daily_a wash_n be_v no_o religious_a action_n nor_o sacrament_n at_o all_o but_o baptism_n by_o heretic_n and_o apostate_n be_v a_o religious_a action_n after_o their_o manner_n and_o a_o false_a sacrament_n therefore_o 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reason_n be_v unperfect_o set_v down_o for_o wash_v with_o water_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o the_o wash_n away_o of_o sin_n by_o and_o in_o god_n institution_n only_o by_o which_o institution_n it_o be_v to_o be_v minister_v to_o none_o but_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n act._n 8._o 36._o 37._o &_o 2._o 38._o 39_o if_o it_o be_v not_o minister_v according_a to_o this_o ordinance_n of_o god_n it_o be_v not_o the_o sign_n of_o his_o grace_n in_o that_o abuse_n though_o it_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o god_n in_o the_o right_a use_n have_v appoint_v for_o a_o sign_n 2._o he_o will_v deceive_v his_o reader_n as_o if_o we_o hold_v wash_n shall_v be_v with_o any_o other_o creature_n than_o water_n or_o in_o any_o other_o name_n then_o the_o lord_n these_o thing_n we_o know_v be_v in_o themselves_o the_o true_a ordinance_n of_o christ_n but_o by_o antichrist_n turn_v to_o a_o lie_n while_o he_o false_o apply_v they_o to_o his_o adulterous_a synagogue_n which_o christ_n have_v give_v to_o 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god_n elect_v call_v out_o a_o evident_a proof_n that_o she_o be_v none_o of_o god_n church_n whatsoever_o she_o pretend_v etc._n etc._n his_o reply_n be_v question_n very_o well_o 166._o say_v he_o but_o be_v not_o those_o word_n my_o people_n the_o word_n of_o the_o covenant_n as_o i_o say_v answ._n they_o be_v but_o not_o of_o any_o covenant_n with_o babylon_n and_o consequent_o not_o with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o be_v babylon_n at_o this_o day_n rev._n 17._o 5._o 2._o and_o be_v not_o that_o people_n now_o in_o babylon_n the_o church_n and_o people_n of_o god_n under_o his_o covenant_n answ._n they_o be_v god_n people_n and_o his_o 6._o lose_a sheep_n there_o but_o their_o common_a wealth_n &_o
shall_v be_v sin_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n if_o they_o shall_v reject_v baptism_n and_o not_o keep_v it_o which_o do_v plain_o evince_v that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o vain_a idol_n and_o nothing_o for_o then_o it_o be_v not_o sin_v but_o their_o duty_n to_o cast_v it_o away_o and_o not_o to_o keep_v it_o at_o all_o but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n ordinance_n etc._n etc._n answ._n the_o first_o be_v true_a for_o without_o the_o word_n and_o commandment_n of_o god_n it_o can_v be_v no_o seal_n of_o his_o covenant_n or_o have_v any_o relation_n at_o all_o thereto_o the_o second_o be_v a_o deceytful_a reason_n conclude_v from_o the_o holy_a commandment_n of_o god_n to_o the_o unholy_a keep_n of_o it_o in_o rome_n it_o shall_v be_v sin_v in_o they_o to_o reject_v baptism_n &_o the_o lord_n supper_n profess_o it_o be_v sin_v in_o they_o to_o keep_v they_o as_o they_o do_v profane_o it_o be_v better_o for_o a_o man_n never_o to_o be_v baptize_v or_o eat_v the_o lord_n supper_n all_o 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a_o wicked_a mass_n be_v not_o a_o idol_n for_o than_o it_o be_v not_o sin_v but_o their_o duty_n to_o reject_v it_o the_o refutation_n hereof_o be_v this_o rome_n and_o all_o nation_n sin_v that_o do_v not_o believe_v aright_o in_o christ_n and_o keep_v all_o his_o ordinance_n the_o more_o that_o they_o open_o renounce_v christ_n or_o any_o of_o his_o ordinance_n the_o more_o they_o shall_v add_v unto_o their_o sin_v yet_o in_o that_o they_o keep_v they_o not_o aright_o but_o have_v change_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n 11._o into_o a_o lie_n and_o his_o holy_a ordinance_n into_o idol_n they_o be_v also_o great_a sinner_n for_o which_o if_o god_n give_v they_o not_o repentance_n they_o be_v under_o wrath_n and_o damnation_n 2_o thes._n 2._o 10._o 11._o 12._o of_o this_o point_n i_o have_v speak_v etc._n before_o in_o answer_n to_o his_o 6._o reason_n for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n his_o 13._o and_o last_o error_n be_v but_o a_o repetition_n of_o former_a matter_n about_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n god_n ordinance_n and_o creature_n consider_v in_o themselves_o &c_n &c_n to_o which_o i_o have_v before_o answer_v show_v that_o it_o help_v the_o papist_n no_o more_o to_o clear_v they_o of_o idolatry_n herein_o than_o the_o heathen_n of_o old_a who_o make_v idol_n of_o creature_n and_o ordinance_n which_o in_o their_o own_o nature_n and_o first_o institution_n be_v good_a and_o holy_a and_o hitherto_o of_o his_o error_n wrongful_o impute_v unto_o we_o to_o these_o by_o his_o figure_n of_o repetition_n and_o multiplication_n he_o have_v add_v from_o the_o former_a ground_n contradiction_n abuse_v of_o scripture_n vain_a distinction_n and_o anabaptistical_n assertion_n all_o which_o be_v but_o the_o same_o thing_n turn_v and_o repeat_v and_o by_o i_o before_o clear_v i_o count_v it_o needless_a labour_n to_o make_v the_o same_o answer_v again_o to_o his_o empty_a calumniation_n of_o circumcision_n in_o israel_n the_o reason_n why_o we_o repeat_v not_o the_o outward_a work_n 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30._o page_n in_o his_o christian_a plea_n pag._n 65._o to_o pag._n 96._o to_o blind_v his_o reader_n with_o many_o word_n i_o will_v brief_o show_v the_o insufficiency_n of_o his_o answer_n and_o first_o that_o israel_n after_o they_o depart_v from_o the_o lord_n his_o temple_n altar_n sacrificer_n and_o church_n and_o make_v new_a temple_n altar_n sacrificer_n sign_n and_o a_o new_a church_n of_o their_o own_o divise_v that_o israel_n i_o say_v from_o that_o time_n be_v not_o a_o true_a church_n i_o have_v before_o ●_o show_v my_o reason_n in_o handle_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n my_o opposite_n 58._o first_o colourable_a reason_n be_v from_o such_o scripture_n as_o still_o name_v they_o the_o lord_n people_n and_o the_o lord_n to_o be_v their_o god_n and_o to_o remember_v the_o covenant_n of_o their_o father_n abraham_n &c_n &c_n 2_o king_n 9_o 6._o etc._n etc._n and_o 13._o 22._o 23._o answ._n i_o have_v heretofore_o 81._o answer_v that_o this_o argument_n they_o 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covenant_n afterward_o though_o for_o the_o present_a they_o be_v none_o of_o he_o as_o in_o that_o day_n i_o will_v marry_v thou_o jsrael_n unto_o i_o for_o ever_o etc._n etc._n hos._n 2._o 18._o 19_o 20._o 23._o thus_o the_o gentile_n be_v call_v christ_n sheep_n because_o they_o shall_v after_o be_v bring_v into_o his_o fold_n joh._n 10._o 16._o and_o god_n have_v much_o people_n in_o corinth_n a_o heathenish_a city_n act._n 18._o 10._o 1_o cor._n 12._o 2._o and_o the_o jew_n to_o this_o day_n be_v god_n people_n and_o belove_v not_o for_o their_o present_a state_n which_o be_v curse_v but_o for_o the_o promise_n that_o they_o shall_v hereafter_o be_v graff_v again_o into_o christ_n rom._n 11._o 11._o 20._o 23._o 25._o 26._o &_o 9_o 4._o with_o esa._n 59_o 20._o 21._o ezek._n 34._o 23._o 30._o hos._n 3._o 5._o four_o 93._o in_o comparison_n with_o the_o philistine_n and_o other_o heathen_n they_o be_v call_v the_o people_n of_o the_o lord_n because_o they_o never_o renounce_v their_o god_n in_o name_n and_o profess_o but_o pretend_v the_o contrary_n five_o 89._o that_o god_n do_v not_o present_o cast_v they_o off_o in_o respect_n of_o call_v they_o to_o repentance_n and_o of_o their_o dwell_n in_o the_o land_n or_o as_o the_o scripture_n say_v in_o 2_o king_n 14._o 27._o of_o put_v out_o the_o name_n of_o israel_n from_o under_o heaven_n for_o his_o covenant_n be_v to_o punish_v they_o by_o degree_n levit._n 26._o 16._o 18._o 21._o 24._o 28._o 33._o and_o at_o last_o if_o they_o repent_v not_o to_o scatter_v they_o among_o the_o heathen_n till_o their_o 4●_n uncircumcised_a heart_n shall_v be_v humble_v and_o they_o rue_v their_o former_a sin_v and_o then_o
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king_n and_o captain_n 2._o king_n 25._o and_o he_o shall_v so_o have_v apply_v these_o gentile_n that_o tread_v down_o god_n holy_a ordinance_n touch_v his_o church_n and_o worship_n to_o the_o papist_n the_o pope_n mark_a soldjer_n that_o have_v the_o 18._o number_n of_o his_o name_n and_o not_o to_o the_o bishop_n and_o priest_n only_o for_o in_o the_o beast_n army_n there_o be_v not_o only_a king_n and_o captain_n which_o fight_v against_o christ_n and_o christian_n but_o all_o sort_n of_o man_n both_o free_a and_o bond_n both_o small_a and_o great_a which_o shall_v be_v slay_v with_o the_o sword_n of_o christ_n which_o proceed_v out_o of_o his_o mouth_n and_o all_o the_o fowl_n shall_v be_v fill_v with_o their_o flesh_n rev._n 19_o 17._o 18._o 21._o so_o not_o the_o popish_a hierarchy_n alone_o but_o all_o other_o of_o their_o idolatrous_a religion_n be_v the_o gentile_n in_o rev._n 11._o who_o the_o holy_a ghost_n measure_v not_o among_o his_o people_n but_o cast_v out_o as_o 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etc._n etc._n but_o also_o the_o whole_a jurisdiction_n and_o government_n of_o the_o cite_v in_o all_o place_n perteyn_a thereto_o so_o the_o street_n of_o this_o city_n reach_v far_o even_o to_o all_o place_n under_o the_o jurisdiction_n thereof_o and_o comprehend_v sundry_a people_n and_o kindred_n and_o tongue_n and_o nation_n as_o here_o be_v say_v whereupon_o it_o be_v fit_o compare_v to_o the_o great_a city_n babylon_n etc._n etc._n where_o yet_o observe_v further_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v fall_v into_o deep_a apostasy_n and_o have_v the_o man_n of_o sin_v sit_v therein_o as_o god_n who_o have_v the_o city_n for_o his_o throne_n the_o thing_n that_o be_v speak_v of_o this_o city_n be_v also_o apply_v to_o the_o apostatle_a estate_n of_o that_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o the_o other_o church_n that_o be_v under_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o prelacy_n of_o that_o sea_n whersoever_o and_o of_o whatsoever_o people_n kindred_n tongue_n on_o nation_n they_o be_v which_o application_n thereof_o i_o do_v also_o acknowledge_v as_o it_o be_v observe_v by_o and_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n rev._n 11._o 8._o with_o esai_n 1._o 10._o jer._n 23._o 14._o ezek._n 16._o 2_o 46_o rev._n 14._o 8._o and_o 17._o and_o 18._o etc._n etc._n with_o esai_n 21._o 9_o and_o 48._o 20._o jer._n 50._o and_o 51._o 1_o 45_o ezek._n 16._o 2_o 35_o and_o c._n 23._o ziaoh_n 2._o 6._o 7._o thus_o far_o he_o yield_v whereupon_o it_o be_v evident_a to_o all_o that_o will_v see_v how_o this_o great_a city_n the_o glorious_a church_n of_o rome_n that_o kill_v god_n witness_n in_o it_o be_v a_o far_o different_a thing_n from_o the_o holy_a city_n which_o that_o church_n tread_v down_o and_o keep_v from_o be_v re-edify_v as_o the_o babylonian_n have_v ruinate_v jerusalem_n keep_v it_o from_o be_v build_v again_o during_o their_o reign_n so_o then_o his_o compare_v of_o rev._n 11._o 8._o with_o esai_n 1._o 10._o and_o jer._n 23._o 14._o seem_v to_o be_v a_o unequal_a 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a_o new_a temple_n altar_n priesthood_n and_o sign_n differ_v from_o christ_n as_o in_o deed_n he_o have_v doen._n and_o that_o idolatrous_a house_n erect_v for_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o true_a god_n not_o only_o the_o israelite_n but_o the_o prophet_n amos_n call_v the_o house_n that_o be_v the_o temple_n of_o their_o god_n am._n 2._o 8._o as_o paul_n call_v the_o house_n wherein_o antichrist_n sit_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n 2_o thes._n 2._o yet_o this_o man_n blame_v i_o for_o compare_v that_o temple_n with_o jeeroboam_n idol_n temple_n which_o israel_n build_v when_o he_o forget_v his_o maker_n hos._n 8._o 14._o how_o just_o let_v man_n of_o judgement_n consider_v 2._o his_o 2._o exception_n be_v about_o babylon_n and_o the_o beast_n that_o i_o make_v they_o one_o with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o distinguish_v not_o babylon_n from_o zion_n this_o i_o have_v before_o clear_v show_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o whore_n of_o babylon_n rev._n 17._o and_o i_o 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