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An apology for Congregational divines against the charge of ... : under which head are published amicable letters between the author and a conformist / by a Presbyterian : also a speech delivered at Turners-Hall, April 29 : where Mr. Keith, a reformed Quaker ... required Mr. Penn, Mr. Elwood ... to appear ... by Trepidantium Malleus ...
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Trepidantium Malleus.
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and your People not told of receiving the Sacrament from Parsons given to Cursing and Swearing I know some of you are not pleas'd that I thus Apologize for the Independents I have often observed that some Conformist who will not call you Schismaticks call the Independents so And Mr. Baxter often called them so and Fanaticks too in his Life written by his own Hand And why because they complyed not with I think some of the most Fanatical Worship under Heaven I confess I have sinned in my once Compliance tho ignorantly not against Light The last Plot convinced me of this I will be so civil to our Clergy as to conceal my Reasons The Men I now contend with are a giddy Generation they that think God loved them with a Complacential Love in their unregeneracy when Drunkards and Whoremongers Lyars and Oppressors some of them may think God may so love them still if they run on in their Sins and so delight in them in Heaven too Alass alass miserable Souls are they who talk as if sadness for Sin were one of their greatest Sins and all doubts to be unbelief No Fastings or Prayers can do good they must act from life which you deny not not for life say they which must not be granted Let them Read that little Book of Martyrs Heb. 10 who looked for a city whose builder and maker is Godâ— who had an Eye to the Recompence of Reward and lest this should be accounted weakness 12 Heb. 1.2 The Apostle direct to the same Looking to Jesus who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross Are they more perfect greater self-denyers than Christ Yet Brethren let me speak freely to you Do not call all Crispians or Antinomians that have provoked you do as Jehu did when he gave charge against the Worshippers of Baal See there be none of the Servants of the Lord but the Worshippers of Baal only Mr. Mather in a kind Letter to me disown'd Crispianism and said The last Lords Day I Preacht against it And know no Vindicator of him but Mr. Cockin I heard the Reverend Mr. Cole now with God condemnd justification from Eternity at Pinners Hall Yet those were too great favourers of the Men more than their Brethren Dr. Chauncy seeks to qualifie bad passages in Dr. Crisp as you do passages not good in another But I am well assured he is no more a thorow Crispian than Mr. Williams is a thorow Baxterian neither have spoken half so bad as their Masters Love blinds the Judgment in defending or censuring both these are good Men and I hope they so judge one of another The man whom I have singled out is accounted by wise men that know him to be an ignorant intolerable Heretick He that will not take Christ in all his Offices shall have him in none Talk of Christ the Priest a thousand times over all is in vain without Christ the King They that condemn sorrow for Sin shall sit down in sorrow You seem to me to have an advantage aingast them that refused as you say Faithful Rebukes c. to subscribe to the Anti-crispian Propositions sent to them No wonder such as I plead against are so free to lye when they believe the Sins were pardoned before they were committed or they were born from the Days of Eternity that Sin can do them no hurt that they are not the Sinners that to go to Humiliation c. is nothing Are these sit to talk of Gospel Preachers who shall say of the Linnen-Draper Speaker what if he tript he wrote only the Heads and some Sentences And yet at another time says If any print his Sermon he will do it for he wrote all And indeed was both seen by the same persons What faces of brass have such noted for nothing but the two good qualifications ignorance and impudence It is beneath a wise Man to throw away his anger upon them I pray you as before conclude not that all that plead for Dr. Crisp are no friends to Good Works or a Holy Life some of them say they are sorry Dr. Crisp said Paul personated a scrupulous man when he said O wretched man that I am who shall deliver me from the body of Death That say they disown what he said Whoever hath any sadness for Sin is out of Christ the way c. Tho they take pains not a little to prove Dr. risp in other places meant not so and so The common practise of all Bigots for their Sect Masters I know to your immortal Honour you generally are no Friends to ignorant Trades Mens Preaching Yet We aere told every where our Linnen-Draper was countenanced by Mr. How 1. Mr. How is a Gentleman and a Courtier and such great Persons are not understood easily always and by all men especially by ignorant Persons 2. This talkt of encouragement was before the Young Spark prophan'd a Pulpit Mr. How knew him not and might be imposedon 3. I am informed by no mean Man Mr. How denies it and so much for that great or greatest Plea for our profound Doctor Are the French Churches laden more or less with good works since they were so corrupted by Camero Tilenus and others to put works out of their right place in a wrong one Geneva corrupted to your Joy exceeding Joy but to our sorrow exceeding sorrow may in time this way lose its beauty and comliness Tho some worthy men among you own Christ righteousness is not imputed to us for our Justification in the Effect only Yet others of them censure these Men. What hath Mr. Humphreys done to name no more who talkt against Mr. VVilliams that Semi-Baxterian like some little Crispian We call for your help against these common Enemys I need not say much here but close this as the Poet his Tristia Qui monet ut facias quod tu facis ille monendo Laudat et hortatu comprobat acta suo A SPEECH deliver'd at Turner's-Hall April 29. at a Meeting with the Consent of the Lord-Bishop and Lord Mayor where Mr. Keith and I also desired Mr. Penn to appear to answer to our Charge where were present one of the Sheriffs and one of the Marshalls to keep the Peace and also several Ministers and Gentlemen and others of all Perswasions By T. M. HAving written a Book entituled William Penn and the Quakets either Impostors or Apostates which they please proved from their avowed Principles and contrary Practices and also a Censure of George Fox his Journal and other Quakerish Writers I shall decline needless Repetitions The last time I appeared here on the like Occasion as now I laid this as my Foundation That God is a God of Truth That the Spirit is a Spirit of Truth that the Devil is the Father of Lyes that therefore George Fox was William Penn is and other Quakers are Impostors and False Prophets teaching false and contrary Doctrines and prophecying Lyes things that never were or came to pass I
Fox also called many Women on his Spirit of Discerning Witche s and Sorceresses of which no proof could be found for such things was he beaten by many in the Streets No wonder Having cautioned you against this Book I proceed concerning VVilliam Pen that he was a false Prophet hath been proved and more proof we have of his not being Inspired and Infallible that he shufled in the last Persecution is well known A Quaker who valued him told me that when a Constable came to him in the Meeting to lay hold on him and said I doubt Sir you have been the Speaker which was true Mr. Pen pointed to one afar of who had also spoken That is he Whilst the Constable went to him Mr. Pen ran away out at a Back Door This Quaker said He could hardly believe his own Ears or Eyes and could not Sleep quietly several Nights after that such a pretious Speaker as Friend William was would so speak and do Contrary Doctrins have been delivered from one and the same Infallible Spirit In one Book against the Conformist he says Tell the Church c. The Church was not to be Judge of matters of Conscience In another Book for his own Courts against the Separate Quakers he says It was For the late Liberty granted them by Authority it is now declared Scripture is an exact Rule of Faith and Obedience And now the external Form of an Oath with us is abated them they swallow down such Words in the Presence of God c. which have from the Spirit been denyed to be lawful especially about Meum and Tuum I cannot believe the story Mr. Pen tells of his Father that he should say to him on his Death Bed Son if you continue in your plain simple way of Living you will put an end to all Preachers to the end of the World Is it likely so brave and worthy a Gentleman as his Father was should thus express himself for my part I cannot believe on Mr. Pen 's Testimony however if it be true I shall only say this The Father was such a Prophet as is the Son I now leave him and go to one of their greatest Men tho least censured by us Robert Barclay the Scotish-man his Theol. vere Christ Apol. in this Book is false History unfound Divinity course Latine In his Preface to King Charles II. he thus says of the Quakers Non in Angulos aut obscura loca irrepentes aut semet abscondentes sicut omnes alii professores Dissentientes fecerunt In nullis privati Conventiculis aut Secretis locis c. That they bore their Testimony always openly and none but they that by this were they known to be the People of God c. The last time I here appeared a Bristol Friend was brought forth to Testifie against me before all the People That Bristol Friends never left their Publick Meetings When I asked him in the Presence of God whether he was not one of them 〈◊〉 leâ—â— the Meeting a long time The Man was in great distress between Credit and Conscience at last confest he had left it Months together And slunk away out of this place that when I turn'd from the People to speak to him again he was gon Barclay tells that King That the Quakers were true to him in his Adversities and he did appeal to the King's Conscience concerning their Innocency Now if King Charles thought them so he should appeal to his Ignorance not Conscience For we here all know Fox and others call'd often on Oliver Cromwel to strengthen his Forces against the Kings Return And in the name of the Lord justified what was done to the Family and the Malignants and said C. Love was acted by a bad Spirit to seek to bring him in And revil'd the Presbyterians as Apostates for attempting it Now Oh how faithful they were always to him and how Generations to come would tell what great things God had done for him In the Book he says of all Persecutions Proveniunt a Spiritu Cain et verirati contraria Well then in Pensylvania Cain would have slain G. Keith their Brother Abel Tho this Barclay be accounted by some among us better than others among them it may be a mistake He calls our Praying and Preaching abominable Idolatry He was indeed Subtit in making that Book in declining some greater Controversies between us and them and insisting on the Fall Justification by Works Perfection and other things where Popish Socinians and other Authors had stockt him with Arguments Some perhaps may wonder I have said nothing all this while of George Whitehead The true reason is I take him to be such a Fool that he is not worth Observation I heard him once Expound in Bristol Meeting Solomon's Fool not only to be a Holy but Sinless man too as I have Printed I hope others are convinced so now that have read his late Antidote to that prodigious piece of Sense called The Snake in the Grass To all the many Charges that Author brings out of their Peters how they had flattered Oliver Cromwel contrary to what they had said to King Charles and all in the name of the Lord. He only says in short This Charge is foul and false How false and not attempt to disprove one of his Evidences No doubt he knew all to be true Again he tells us how others applyed themselves to Oliver Did they say I do it in the name of the Lord pretending to a Spirit of Infallibility and Inspiration No He says also The Act of Indemnity forbids mentioning those things True by way of Reviling but not in a way of Disputation Was not that Act in Force when Pen and others twitted the Dissenters with Garments roll'd in Blood I therefore concern not my self about so weak an Adversary and declare I never will For that Quaker who Prophesied London should be Burnt within two Days when it was so it is enough to prove him not a Prophet sent of God seeing in the midst of the Flames he so often Propesied to the People The Fire should end here and then there where he would stop and the Fire should proceed no further but the Fire raged still Well it is sufficient for me to know Friends never believed their own Prophets nor regarded them therefore I pray them excuse us that we in this thing follow their Example What follows from all that I have said Historically after another hath spoken Doctrinally 1. That these Men were not true Prophets nor sent by the God of truth Are there any here so weak that I need say to them Then were they false Prophets and sent by the Devil the Father of Lyes 2. That great was their madness that tho so vile boasted of Perfection George Fox said he was Equal with God as perfect as Christ c. 3. That they were miserably deluded who almost Adored such Men Glory be to thee George Fox Holy One I close all with a great and