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A75414 An Answer to a scandalous paper, wherein were some queries given to be answered. And likewise, therein is found many lies and slanders, and false accusations against those people whom he (and the world) calls Quakers. Dated from Dorchester in New-England, August 17. 1655. subscribed, Edward Breck, which was directed to a people at Rainforth in Lancashire, which he calls, A church of Christ. The truth is cleared of his scandalls, lies, and slanders, and he found to bee a reproacher of the Church of Christ. His paper and quæries answered by those people called, Quakers. 1656 (1656) Wing A3345A; Thomason E875_4; ESTC R206566 30,171 38

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and by the eternall infallible spirit we ijudge it to be false judgement and of the living God of heaven and carth shalt thou be judged for thy false judgement which thou hast given of the Spirit of Truth and this thou shalt eternally witness one day when thou art arraigned at the barre of Justice as thou saith and we judge and bids stand off all unclean spirits all lying dark Satanicall Spirits which knoweth not the living God nor joins not to the living God for who is joyned to the Lord is one Spirit and this is that Spirit which we speak from which leads and guides up to God And thou that speaks of trances and quakings and humbling and confessing and Originall Sin and vileness and casting down and such like which thou hast gathered out from the Letter and speaks them with another spirit then spoke them in the Scriptures thou that hath not the same Spirit as spoke these words in the Scriptures we deny thy spirit and judg it to be the Spirit of Error by the same spirit as spoke forth the Scriptures we do try thee and know thee and we deny all false Doctrine and contradictions and rediculous and foolish things which thou mentions and all thy confusion which thou haft uttered forth in thy Paper not worthy mentioning and the Spirit that spoke it we do utterly deny and the Spirit of the living God we own and witness and cleave to which proceeds from the Father and the Son which is the judge of all unclean dark fallible lying Spirits this is our Leader and Teacher and Guider Judge and Law-giver and King Glory and Praises be to our living and powerfull God for ever And after that thou hast judged the Spirit of God to be the Spirit of the Devill thou confesseth that thou hast not waded very deep into the matter Here thou hast made manifest thy shallowness and sinfulness of Truth indeed and uttering forth thy folly and ignorance of God But thou art comprehended and the depth of thy deceit is known and seen and the bottom and foundation on which thou stands is sandy and the words thou hears but doth them not and therefore art thou likened unto the foolish man that hath built thy house upon the Sand for when the winde blows and beats upon thy house it will fall and great will be the fall of it And thou speaks of Iesuits which was known in London to quake and to speak in the Congregations and thou saith These men no doubt might make a Covenant with the Devill and by the finest way of witchcraft and sorcery convey it unto others by an implicit Covenant seducing men thinking no such thing but rather as though God had more abundantly declared his love to them then to any people in the world when as the matter is nothing else but Satan transformed into an Angel of Light and so then thou goes on to tell thy story Answer Here let all who reads thy words and hath any measure of Justice Equity or Honesty in them behold thy blindness and ignorance of God and of his Truth who hath given such a manifest lye as this is under thy hand and yet hath the boldness to judge the Spirit of Truth to be the Spirit of Satan at that very instant when thou art found in the Devils work venting and vomiting lyes and slanders upon the pure Truth of the living God which shall be found clear and pure and innocent and guiltless of all these false slanders which thou hast cast upon it God and his Truth shall be found true and all such men as thou found lyars as hundreds in London from whence thou fetcheth this lye shall witness that this which thou hast spoken to be a lie and slander and all lyes is of the Devill and he is the Father of all lyars and I do beleeve that thou wilt not finde one in London of so many thousands as there is in the same nature as thou art in that will say they saw Jesuits quake there but I am sure that hundreds there are that are convinced of the living Truth of God which will testifie against thy lyes and bear witness for the Truth against thy false slanders And those men which thou saith are seduced by witchcraft and sorcerie and an implicite Covenant Answer but those men whom thou speaks as being contemptible will quickly see thee to be a poor deceived seduced creature who utters forth thy confusion and darkness and ignorance and makes thy folly manifest And thousands there are at this day who have not come so far up to the Truth of God as to own us yet will see thee to be a dark ignorant deluded besotted spirit who knows nothing at all of God but what thou knows it is naturally as a bruit beast which Iude speaks of And thou that doth ground and raise such scandals as thou hath done in thy Paper upon such lyes and untruths as these that thou tells let all honest hearted judge what spirit it is that guides and leads thee for I am sure that hundreds will set to their hands and seals that this which thou speaks is false and yet from this ground dost thou raise thy Exhortation thou saith to the Church of Christ so now whether any Church which hath but the name and profession of Christ will receive such reports and lyes and slanders and give it under their hands as thou hast done let all the professed Churches though there be many that can talk of Christ and God as thou doth and serve the Devill as thou hath done here I say Let all the professed Churchches as thou calls them both in New-England and elsewhere blush and be ashamed of thee who hast given such manifest lyes and slanders and scandals of the pure Truth for a testimony of thy Faith which thou confesseth thou hath but by report But thou hast made thy self manifest to be a defamer of the Truth of God who saith Report and we will report it And so thou goes on with thy Report and Story which thou saith is credibly reported to be in or about Bristol There was a mans wife that desired to go to one of the Quakers Meetings her husband was unwilling but after importunity he gave her leave but she was so wrought upon in that Meeting that when she came home again she was fill'd with Revelations and spoke as though she had spoken with the tongue of Angels to admiration far above her self her husband told her she was bewitched but she was far enough from beleeving that but he could not satisfie himself but would search her body to see what tokens he could finde about her arm he found a silk thred he inquired how that came there she serious professed she knew nothing of it wel saith he this shall not remain here and he took it away and then she returned to the same woman that she was before she went to the quakers Meeting and saith thou
if this be a true Story as I credibly beleeve tell me if there was not witchcraft used in this quakers Meeting yea or nay Now let all honest hearts who reads this thy Story read thy Spirit and thy envy who hatcheth Cockatrice-Eggs and weaves Spiders-webs and he that eateth of these Eggs dyeth and that which is crushed breaketh into a Viper Now if thou be not blind thou may read thy Spirit in this Scripture but for this cause God hath sent thee strong delusions that thou should beleeve lyes and I know assuredly that thousands there is about Bristol from whence thou fetcheth this lye that will witness and testifie that this is a gross lye also and that there was never any such thing done or acted there by those people called quakers And therefore let all who have but any moderation or dram of honesty in them judge thy boldness and impudence in lying who should send such a lying pamphlet as this is into another Nation which thou professeth love to but thy hands is defiled with blood and thy fingers with iniquity thy lips hath spoke lyes and thy tongue hath utterd perversness and thy trust is in vanity and lyes thou hast conceived mischief and brought forth iniquity and this is the fruits of thy Profession which thou tells such a story of in the beginning of thy Paper and of so many Generations which thou calls Churches of Christ but there was never any Generation but might have such a Church as this is whereof thou art a Member which is grounded upon lyes and reports and stories the Pope and Iesuits which thou speaks of can have no worse Foundation then thou hast Therefore let all that profess this Faith that thou art of be ashamed of thee and the fruits that thou brings forth who hath made lyes thy refuge and with falshood hast thou covered thy self as with a garment And thou goes on and saith no doubt the devill can very wel paint men to come to the Lords table and to preach Christ for thou saith he hath sometime been a Preacher of Christ himself Answer At that Table where thou sits the Devill may paint men to come to and the Devill may preach Christ as he doth in thee talk of a Christ and yet the Doctrine and Foundation and Ground from whence thou speaks is lyes and untruths and all lying comes from the Devill And so let all who have any thing of God in them to guide their mindes judge and try thy Spirit and what Scripture thou hath to prove thy words or when it was that the Devill preached Christ but though in words he might speak of him as thou dost and thy preachers that thou speaks of but the Apostle saith that there is none can preach except they be sent and wilt thou say that God sent the Devill to preach Christ or thou wilt deny the Apostles words and Doctrine or thou wilt blaspheme God choose which of these thou wilt taste And the Apostle said they could not sit at the Lords table and the table of Devill And thou saith the Deville an paint men to come to the Lords table Now wilt thou deny the Apostles Doctrine there or wilt thou confess thy self be at the Table of the Devill feeding among lyars and envious persons which holds the Truth in unrighteousness Therefore expect the wrath of God to be revealed from Heaven upon thee which is against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are back-biters haters of God despitefull proud boasters inventers of evill who have changed the truth of God into a lye Here read thy self and thy spirit and thy practise and thy portion for God is the same he changeth not and according to thy works shall thy reward be So thou goes on in thy accusing and back-biting and slandering and thou brings up Grimdleton whom thou sayes came up to Trances and Revelations which thou saith fell at last to Popery and prophaneness But this which we have only from thy own mouth which is so stuft with lyes and slanders who is set on back-biting and slandering and accusing and thy ground is but by hear-say we shall give little credit to what thou speaks either of Grimdleton or any else for we know thy ground is falsity and lyes and so there can no truth spring from that Root But I do beleeve that thou does accuse Grimdleton falsly and belye them in that thou saith they are turned to Popery but thy throat is grown so wide that thou canst swallow any thing and thou never heeds who thy Informers are so that it feed that Root which grows in thee which brings forth bitter fruit And thou saith It is the main thing that the Devill drives at now ' because Jesuits have been the chief Fomentrrs of this quaking Religion Let all behold and see now thy gross ignorance and emptiness and shallowness that thou should speak things that thou hast no president not ground of truth for where can thou say or where hast thou heard that ever the Iesuits quaked Oh that thou should not be ashamed of such idle groundless untruths that all who reads thy words may read thee to be a lyar and slanderer Thou cannot produce any that ever knew a iesuit quake and so let all who reads thy words read thy gross error and ignotance of Scriptures who talks of Iesuits quaking which they never did and art so blinde that thou cannot see who they were in Scripture that quaked Was Moses a Iesuit who said I exceedingly fear and quake And was the people of Israel Iesuits who came in the morning to the Mount where there was thunders and ligntnings and thick Clouds upon the Mount and the voice of the Trumpet exceeding loud so that all the people that was in the camp exceedingly trembled was this Trumpet sounded among the Iesuits Oh thou miserable creature who art thou contending against And was Ezekiel a Iesuit to whom the Word of the Lord came saying Son of man eat thy bread with quaking and drink thy water with trembling and carefulness And was Daniel a Iesuit upon whom fell great quakings and tremblings Now see and read thy ignorance of the Scriptures which thou saith is thy Light Now see if thou be not blinde who yet knows not that which thou looks upon to be thy guide who casts a Reproach upon that which thou never came to know nor never was made partaker of But to an account and reckoning thou shalt come for all thy hard speeches And whereas thou saith That thy hearts desire is that they may be established in the Faith of Gods Elect. Thy heart is deceitfull and desperately-wicked nor the Faith of Gods Elect thou nor them that thou writes to never know for the Elect of God is pure and none can lay any thing to the charge of Gods Elect So concerning that Faith be thou silent for thou art here charged with many lyes and slanders and false accusations which Gods Elect was