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A32898 An old apostate justly exposed his treachery to the Holy God, his truth and people manifested, his great wickedness and uncleanness (which, by false covers, he has endeavoured to hide) laid open to the shame of him, and all his abettors : in a short answer, or some brief remarks, upon a very scandalous book lately published, stiled, The spirit of Quakerism, and the danger of their divine revelation laid open, subscribed, Henry Winder : also the nameless publisher therof, as justly reprehended for his enmity and great malice, in abusing an innocent people, by heaps of most gross lies, slanders, base insinuations and inferences, frothy and scurrilous scoffs and taunts, so void of Christianity, that probably no man, with a name, would undertake / by Thomas Camm. Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707. 1698 (1698) Wing C396; ESTC R21826 31,372 63

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the said H. W. So that the time that can in any respect be supposed for such Solicitations is reduced within the Compass of about Nine Days And that time under strong suspicion of her Sisters being with Child as aforesaid which in reason may be admitted as sufficient to prevent such Solicitation if there had been inclination thereto which I believe not Much more would the certain knowledge of her Sisters being with Child to the Man that basely saith she several times expressed her great Affection and Desire to have him c. For no doubt but the discovery of that Uncleanness and that the said H. W. had so basely abused her Sister would administer occasion of being highly offended at him all Circumstances considered he having a Wife of his own and an honest one too for ought that ever I heard though she had the hard hap of having a very dishonest Husband if not worse Such an one as that she that should express her Affection and Desire as aforesaid considering all his Circumstances so close upon the death of his Wife her death so sudden and surprising her Sister then big with Child by him must needs be concluded Mad or greatly Infatuated and bereaved of common Sense and Reason Wherefore pray consider what sort of Man this H. W. is this very noted Passage highly detects him to be very base enough to give the Reader a clearer sight of him and his whole Book Wherefore pray further consider what kind of Readers must his Book have that believes him who so frequently detects himself of great Falshood I know none that believes him except his nameless as well as shameless Publisher who is like one of them who said Report and we will report it yet may question whether he dare so far express himself as to give us his Name with his belief of the Truth of H. W's Book which he has published especially now when H. W. and his Book is exposed and his false Covers plucked off and he proving a very unclean Man as also very false and malicious And I would hope that such as have abetted him and put him upon Printing such false malicious slanderous as well as sensless Stuff will now repent thereof with respect to their Repute and Credit and to prevent what will be the Reward of all that are accessory to such an evil Work viz. Shame and Confusion of Face And may it not be expected that he whom H. W. calls Excellent Learned and Pious Mr. Gilpin Minister then of their Church and who the now Wife of H. W. confessed the 15th of the first Month now last past 1696 7 before the four Friends before named did write down all Matters relating to H. W's Narrative as they were transacted will now see that he has been too officious on the behalf of such a Man and will ingenuously confess that he was greatly mistaken or worse when on his behalf he gave that Testimony related in Page 12 of the said Narrative That he H. W. was always accounted a very faithful and just Man and that he had for a long time experienced him to be so Oh sad that a Man of his Figure and Station should so mistake to speak modestly to give Testimony and that as he saith upon long Experience that he viz. H. W. had always been accounted a very faithful and just Man when notoriously known as before related to be both very unfaithful and unjust at least to his Wife But Prejudice and Enmity has made many otherways wise greatly to befool themselves Neither will J. N. whom he calls Deacon of their Church get Repute either to himself or Church in Abetting or Testifying on behalf of H. W. if it be such as he who is called Mr. Gilpin has Testified Some few Passages more of the said Book of H. W's I shall take notice of and so draw to a Conclusion with him having exceeded what I intended but that I find so much Dirt to remove off the Innocent and cast back whence it came and is worthy to stick The first is what I find related about the Search made on Sparkehead-Moore in Page 9. Thus They were slow and had no great Courage to begin the Search but my Wife spurred them on and bid 'em chear up and take Courage c. Thus she upbraided their Faintness and Folly c. Answ She being examined about this Matter by the four Friends before-named the same 15th of the First Month before-mentioned 1697 She viz. H. W's Wife answered Yes at the first I did put them on but I confess my Spirit failed and I did cry out It seems from this Confession that she had neither Innocency nor Confidence enough to support her but her Spirit fell and she cried out The Reason whereof I leave to God and her own Conscience in hope that her Heart is not yet grown so hard as her Husband 's since she confesseth to some Truth The next is what I find in Page 16. viz. Hitherto the Lord of his infinite free Mercy prel●●g● my days with my dear and faithful Wife and Children whom he hath increased preserved and abundantly blessed My whole Family he hath spared as a Father spares his own Son that serves him And this I declare c. Answ Let such as name the Holy Name of the Holy God depart from Iniquity for he will not be holden guiltless that taketh his Name in vain though he long spare and his long-suffering be very great yet in the end Tribulation and Anguish will be the Portion of the Wicked Wherefore let H. W. hear and fear and not bless himself in that he has been spared to this Day nor boast of his Posterity for the Wicked has been seen ere now to spread forth Branches like the green Bay Tree and all things to go well with him yet stands in a slippery place suddenly goes down into the Pit and Bastard's Slips has not long nor deep Rooting neither can Whoremongers Adulterers or Lyers have any part or place in the Kingdom of Heaven but in Tophet prepared of old for the Devil and his Angels In Page 21 he saith I fell into a Temptation wherein I was so cast down that I despaired to receive Comfort any way but in the Ordinances appointed c. Answ It 's evident he has not fallen into one only but many Temptations and gross Evils which all his outward Ordinances cannot redeem him out of for it 's the Blood of Jesus that cleanseth from Sin in which Remission comes to be known in the Work of Regeneration and Renewings of the Holy Spirit where there 's unfeigned Repentance and a walking in the Light Which this Man reviles and slights and counts deceivable and would falsly insinuate to be the ground of his Erring from the way of Truth which bespeaks him in a dangerous Condition blaspheming against that Light in which all must walk who comes to be cleansed from all Sin for if we walk in the Light
AN Old APOSTATE Justly Exposed His Treachery to the Holy God his Truth and People MANIFESTED His great Wickedness and Uncleanness which by False Covers he has Endeavoured to hide laid open to the Shame of him and all his Abettors In a short Answer or some Brief Remarks upon a very Scandalous Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Henry Winder ALSO The Nameless Publisher thereof as justly Reprehended for his Enmity and great Malice in Abusing an Innocent People by heaps of most Gross Lies Slanders Base Insinuations and Inferences Frothy and Scurrilous Scoffs and Taunts so void of Christianity that probably no Man with a Name would Undertake By THOMAS CAMM London Printed and Sold by T. Sowle next Door to the Meeting-house in White-Hart-Court in Gracious-street and at the Bible in Leaden-hall-street near the Market 1698. The Dog is turned to his own vomit again and the Sow that was washed to her wallowing in the Mire 2. Pet. 2.22 They went out from us but they were not of us c. John 2.19 Raging Waves of the Sea foaming out their own Shame c. Jude 13. Behold he Travelleth with Iniquity and hath conceived Mischief and brought forth Falshood he made a Pit and digged it and is fallen into the Ditch which he made his Mischief shall return upon his own Head and his Violent Dealing shall come down upon his own Pate Psal 7.14 15 16. THE PREFACE TO THE Impartial Reader IF thou hast Seen or Read a Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Hen. Winder then be pleased to suspend giving Judgment upon the Matter thereof until thou hast Read and duly Considered the Contents of what follows being a short Answer or some brief Remarks upon the most material Passages in that Book Levelled against the Truth and those People commonly called Quakers Remember what the Wise Man saith viz. He that is first in his own Cause seemeth Just but his Neighbour cometh and searcheth him If thou judge that I have been close upon the Author and have exposed him to publick view consider that he has been the occasion And what is written in Holy Scripture must be fulfilled viz. The Wickedness of the Wicked must return upon his own Head and he that hides his Sins cannot Prosper I confess I was Astonished to see the Subscriber before named grown so Impudent Hard since I had some small knowledge of him many Years past while he seemed to be of us and before he fell into such gross Vncleanness And have seen yea having by me several of his Confessions and Acknowledgments not only of his great Sins and Transgressions but also to the Truth and Way thereof and that the Quakers are the People that walk therein I say I was Astonished to see the Man now grown so Seared as to give himself the Lie and appear in Print against the Truth and Innocent People thereof with that Inconsiderateness and Fury which manifests him to be one of them Evil Men who grows worse and worse and to have entertained again that Evil Spirit that was in some measure once cast out and with him seven times worse which makes his latter end much worse than his beginning I shall not take notice of all his long Narrative but such as chiefly Reflects upon the Truth and People of God called Quakers My Intent and Aim being to Vndeceive or Inform them who have believed his False Reports and Deceitful Slanderous Insinuations against the Truth and Principle thereof which we Profess As also to Detect his false Pretences in his going from Truth and Vs and deserting that Profession that once he made thereof with us by demonstrating the True Cause thereof neither shall I Justifie the Three Women in any thing wherein they missed the Line of Truth which to his Conscience is known we never owned them in though he would now being filled with Enmity Falsly Insinuate we did in order to Prejudice the Minds of People against that Way of Truth from which he is now fallen through Sin and Wickedness And for a Cover thereto as also to gratifie such amongst them with whom he is now joyned as Lusts to be Envious and whose Fingers Itches to be at their old Work of Persecution being angry at the Liberty we now through God's Great Mercy enjoy as to our Religious Duties from the present Government for which we desire ever to be Thankful in all Grateful Acknowledgments How aptly what follows doth answer to what is before proposed I leave to thee Impartial Reader to Judge Recommending thee to the Guidance of the Vnerring Spirit that gives a good Vnderstanding and Leads into all Truth And that thou and all Men might come under the Guidance and Government thereof is the Earnest Desire of him who wisheth Good to all Men. Thomas Camm AN Old Apostate Justly Exposed c. Hen. Winder WILL not thy own Back-sliding Correct thee and is it not a Dreadful Thing that thou should so far harden thy Heart against God and the Convictions of his Spirit in thy own Conscience for thy great and manifold Sins so as to grow as Evil Men always do worse and worse making Shipwrack of Faith and a Good Conscience being Seared as with an Hot Iron to the fulfilling the Testimony of Holy Scripture upon thee viz. Because Judgment from God has not been speedily Executed thy heart has been more set to do Evil Thy Book if it be thine as by thee Subscribed and as I hear in part owned to be so I have seen read and considered of and find thy Enmity great and thy said Book chiefly bent against the Truth and People called Quakers and to Expose an Innocent People to the Fury and Scorn of Malicious Men such as the nameless Publisher thereof For if thou had bent thy self only against those thou names as Injurers of thee since they missed in their Management in that they Charge thee with whether all true or not we leave to him who knows all things and is the Searcher of all Hearts yet I should not have concerned my self on this wise but finding that through their Sides thou endeavourest to strike at Truth against which thou cannot prevail and the Principle thereof born Testimony unto by those Innocent People called Quakers I proceed to take notice of thy Book as followeth First thy Title is The Spirit of Quakerism An old Nickname more beseeming one that had never born the name of a Quaker than thee that once did and to what follows viz. The danger of their Divine Revelation c. Divine Revelation the Quakers own it 's Scripture Doctrine without it none can come to the True and Saving Knowledge of the Only True God and his Son Jesus Christ whom he hath sent whom to know is Life Eternal For it 's the Testimony of Holy Scripture That no Man knows the Father
For when Lust was conceived in us it brought forth Sin and when Sin was finished it brought forth Death c. The Lord made known himself unto us both by his Inward Working in us and by his Messenger unto us Margaret Bradley who is a Faithful Servant of God and a Lover of our Souls who hath Travelled in pain for us c. The Lord Reward her for her Faithfulness between the Lord and us as no doubt but he hath Rewarded her already Ah! you Beloved of us we do this Acknowledge and Confess that we have been such a grievous Burthen and Shame unto you in giving so great Occasion to the Enemy c. Besides you were even pricked to the Heart for us Now we are unworthy and also ashamed to come into your Congregations or into the Assembly of Friends those which we have so grievously Sinned against c. We intreat you if you can find so much Favour and Love in your Hearts towards us as to receive us into your Congregation if it be but into the Entry of your Houses where you meet together to wait upon God c. This out of one of their said Papers now hear also what follows taken out of the Second beginning thus viz. Be it known unto all People unto whom these Presents shall be read That I H. Winder and Ann my Wife do acknowledge and confess before the Living God and unto all People That we have Sinned and done that which we ought not to have done in suffering the Temptations of Sin in the Flesh to overcome us and lead us out of the strait and narrow Way which leads to Life c. So this know all People that it was not because the Quakers Judgment or Doctrine or way of Worship is False that it caused us to fall from them But our fall was of our selves and their Judgment their Doctrine their way of Worship and Faith is Acceptable with the Lord we do Faithfully Believe it and also Acknowledge it c. He hath called us to Repentance For he would not the Death of a Sinner but rather that he should Repent and Live c. I was afraid and hid my self five days but my Covering was too narrow but the Word of the Lord came to me again saying Hide not thy self nor be not Rebellious any longer For I the Lord fill Heaven and Earth with my Presence therefore confess thy Sins and Repent and forsake them c. Then I fell down at the Word of the Lord Trembling Fasting and Praying Weeping and Mourning before the Lord three days c. Let all People take Warning by me to call to Remembrance their former Sins and Transgressions which they have committed before the Lord God for he fills Heaven and Earth with his Presence and nothing can be hid from him c. Let the Wicked forsake his Ways and the Unrighteous his Thoughts and let us turn unto the Lord with penitent Hearts confessing the Evil of our Doings c. Thus far out of the said two Papers faithfully taken out which if any shall question I hereby profer such if they please to read them at large And let it be noted Reader that upon the 15th of the 1st Month commonly called March last past those two Papers out of which I have taken what is above-written was then intended to have been shewed to both H. W and his Wife but he not being met with the said Ann his Wife did then own them to be their own Papers and that she Writ them with her own Hands And did also then own the Preface Narrative and Postscript of that Book called The Spirit of Quakerism c. to be her Husband 's And being further queried why they should put forth such a Wicked Book she answered Ah! we were put upon it by several else we had never done it but would not tell who they were though then desired only confessed that Mr. Gillpin wrote down all things thereof as they were Transacted And the said Ann H. W's Wife querying then of our Friends whose Names are after Subscribed as Witnesses whether we intended to answer their said Book our Friends answering Yea it would be Answered to which she replyed And then will you lay us open to the World c. Witnesses hereof William Grenhope William Greenhow John Bowstead Richard Atkinson I shall now add what is so Notoriously known in the face of the Neighbourhood that though the said H. W. be greatly hardned yet I presume he cannot have a face to deny relating to their great uncleanness for which they were denyed of us c. First the said H. W. had her that is now his Wife so great with Child in his first Wife's dayes that there was but about six Weeks betwixt the Death of his first Wife and the Birth of that Child Now Reader be pleased to compare what is before taken out of their own Papers and what is added as a demonstration of their great Wickedness and Uncleanness that their Papers have relation to and for which they were denyed of our Friends with what I have in short before cited out of their own Book viz. that God should choose him viz. H. W. to be his Instrument to Fight this Battle c. And when I consider what Persons our Saviour chose for his great Apostles c. But being Conscious of our perfect Innocency we made our Appeal to the Searcher of all Hearts c. Again we know no Guilt c. Again a Burthen Intolerable had I not been Supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience c. And then Reader after such comparing the One with the Other and due Consideration thereof I shall leave it to thee if thou be such an one as hath the Fear of God before thee to judge whether this our Adversary H. W. is like an Instrument chosen of the Pure Holy God or in any respect like the Apostles of Holy Jesus fit to be dignified by appearing on God's behalf Can be Conscious of perfect Innocency or can as such make his appeal to the Searcher of all Hearts can know no guilt Can be supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience or no And whether it be not great Impiety and Blasphemous in him so to say considering his Circumstances as before And whether it doth not bespeak and declare his Conscience to be Seared as with an Hot Iron or no Ah surely the Righteous God will Rebuke him for his Abominable Uncleanness and Impiety Hypocrisie and make him and all his Abettors Examples in his Wrath If they Repent not Further let the Reader observe that the said H. W. in the first Page of his Narrative saith That it was in the Year 1673. and Harvest time when Margaret Bradley one of the three Women he calls his Accusers came with a Message to him and after the Relation of her then Message to him he also relates his Answer viz. ' The Lord Rebuke thee thou
Impudent Wretch And in Page 2. he saith That not long after came M. L. with the same Message And further in the same Page he saith We opposed them to Convince if possible by all the Arguments we could use that their pretended Revelations came from the Devil And in Page 3. Calls them Poor Deluded Creatures False Prophetesses and that he thought the Devil had led them so far that he could not bring them off without Confusion and Shame Now Reader I say again be pleased to compare what I have above Cited out of the three first Pages of his Narrative with what I have before taken out of their two Papers relating to Margaret Bradley and then consider when and in what time we shall believe H. W. and his Wife whether in what they say in their Narrative in the Pages aforesaid which they pretend was spoken in the Year 1673. or in their Papers written in 1674. the Year next following since they so positively Contradict each other For in the first Year 1673. She the said M. B. is an Impudent Wretch that her Message or Revelation came from the Devil a Deluded Creature a False Prophetess one that the Devil had in H. W. and his Wife's Thoughts led so far that he could not bring her back without Shame and Confusion c. But in their Paper under their Hands and owned as before said written in the Year 1674. next following fully contradicts what they would now say or pretend was spoken in the Year before for in this later Year she viz. Margaret Bradley is God's Messenger to them a Faithful Servant of God a Lover of their Souls one who Travelled in Pain for them desires that the Lord may Reward her for her Faithfulness between the Lord and them And concludes with that no doubt but the Lord hath already Rewarded her c. Now Considerate Reader which of the two is to be believed as true first or last or both which cannot be being so absolutely Contrary except they grant they wronged her in the first and that she was still what in the latter they say if they had rightly understood her and her Message and if the first be true and that she was worthy of such Vile Terms in 1673. then how comes she to deserve such an Honourable Character in 1674. was not her Message still the same if they alledge she was become a better yea a good Woman will that do no not to reconcile the the Contradiction before the Message being still the same and if the last be true and to be Believed as by them Subscribed to and since owned as before said written in 1674. then how will H. W. justifie his Prosecution of her at Law upon the Score of the said Message But I observe the Serpents Way is very Crooked full of Deceitful Doubles and he Deceives all at last who follow him by leading them where they cannot return without Shame and Confusion where the Reader may see he hath led H. W. and his Wife the old Proverb is Liers ought to have a good Memory And may it not be reasonably concluded by what is before said that it was the real Sense of H. W. and his Wife when their Papers were written they being then under the Sence of the Righteous Judgments of God for their great Sins viz. in the Year 1674. before they had hardened their Hearts against the Lord and that what is pretended to be spoken in the Year 1673. is but only Stuff through Enmity and Malice since entered into their Hearts against the Truth and God's People and now Introduced to Amuse and Deceive the Unwary Reader and with more colour to reflect upon and asperse an Innocent People as also to hide and cover their great Wickedness And in as much as they are Witnesses under their own Hands That she viz. M. B. was a Servant of God and his Messenger to them in 74. What notice is to be taken or credit to be given to what in the Year before is now pretended to be spoken upon her said Message but to be exploded and looked upon as the product of great Enmity against the Truth and People from which he is fallen and to Gratifie his Assistants and Abettors such as his Wife saith urged or put them upon Writing and Publishing in Print else they had never done it who together with them will justly for their pains reap Infamy and Shame For the Wickedness of the Wicked will return upon his own Head And if she was a Faithful Servant of the Lord and his Messenger to them as they say under their Hands in their said Papers I ask H. W. and his Wife what was the Message she brought them Was it what they have Inserted in their said Book which she Charged them with Then I further query of them how they will evade the matter of Fact Charged against them therein or excuse themselves from the Guilt thereof since they say She was to them God's Messenger c. For I find no other Message or Charge Inserted in the said Book Charged against the said M. B. and other two Women except what he mentions in Page 11. viz. They meaning the three Women or some of them had new Revelations saith he That I was guilty of the Death of some Person nearly Related to them and me But who this Person was or how Related either to them or him he mentions not but leaves his Reader in the Dark Wherefore I now Query if it was his first Wife he means for sure she was or at least ought to have been nearly Related to him but such Dishonest and Unfaithful Men to their Wives as he who loudly Lusts after others cannot Love or be so nearly Related to their own Wives as they ought to be and if it be his first Wife he means and yet Conceals her it might be Policy I will not say Wisdom except Devilish lest the nameing her might revive that Jealousie of wrong to her upon her sudden and unexpected Death and the Circumstances before Related That she that was his then and his now Wife was then under O how Gross things looks And it 's Irksome to me to meddle in such Dirty Stuff if it were not to wipe it off the Innocent and cast it back where it ought to stick wherefore I shall take notice of another great Circumstance of more Wickedness than was clearly Discovered That is that when the Sisters and near Relations of her that is now Wife to H. W. was Jealous of her being with Child about the time of the Death of H. W's first Wife and she thereupon being questioned yet stoutly denied they for better Satisfaction did search her and found Milk in her Breasts which I suppose is commonly taken amongst Women for an undoubted Token of being with Child except such as give Suck And their pressing that as a Certain Token of her being so yet she to blind them and to hide if she could her Condition replied
to them then on this wise viz. I have been so once before and you never knew any thing but well with me This she confessed she then spake before the four Friends before named the 15th of the first Month last past only with this throw at her Relations But my Relations has been my great Enemies in the matter Now if she had been so once before that is had Milk in her Breasts Which is as I suppose a common Token of being with Child and if she was before with Child it must be either by H. W. or some other Man I shall only ask if so what became of that Child And shall leave both the further Search and Judgment thereof to him who knows all things and cannot be deceived The next thing I shall take notice of is what he saith in his Postscript if it be his however his Name is to it whoever was the Author which Intitles him to it though most False in the greatest part thereof as after may more fully appear by what follows In the second Page of the said Postscript and 19th of his Book he saith That some after my entrance amongst them meaning the Quakers they reposed a great trust in me viz. to be Receiver of all their Collections in the County c. Answ Had not Judas the Betrayer of our Blessed Lord as great a Trust or greater Reposed in him for he was not only the keeper or bearer of the Bag for the necessity of the Poor t. but was Intrusted in a part of the Ministry yet notwithstanding Wickedly Betrayed his Lord and Master going to the High Priests to make his Bargain with them and has not H. W. Imitated him in endeavouring with the assistance of some at least like the High Priests to betray the Innocent into the Hands of the Wicked Wherefore let H. W. consider the Dismal End of Judas and take heed lest his be the like The greatest part of the said Postscript is made up of base Reflections against the Quakers as that they were changed from what they were and become Erroneous in both Doctrine and Practice that there was much Jarring Discord Secret Envying and Different Opinions among them then most Falsly and Wickedly Insinuating that thereby he found much Disquietness and Anguish in his Mind which put him upon a new Examination of the Grounds of Religion and being better Informed could not with clear Conscience stay amongst the Quakers but deserted them which so offended the Quakers that ever after they made him their Butt to Shoot at c. Answ That what is before pretended is Wickedly False will most evidently appear in what follows For that they fell from us through great Uncleanness is before Demonstrated and we have their Confession thereof under their own Hands as before taken out of their Papers viz. Be it known unto all People unto whom these Presents shall be read That I H. Winder and my Wife do Acknowledge and Confess before the Living God and unto all People That we have Sinned and done that which we ought not to have done in suffering the Temptations of Sin in the Flesh to overcome us and lead us out of the strait and narrow way which leads to Life c. So this know all People let the Reader Mark that it was not because the Quakers Judgment or Doctrine or way of Worship is False that it caused us to fall from them but our fall was of our selves And their Judgment their Doctrine their way of Worship and Faith is acceptable to the Lord we do Faithfully Believe it and also Acknowledge it c. Let us be a Warning unto all Backsliders and those that turn from the Grace of God into any Unrighteousness c. Now can any thing be more Clear and Plain than that what H. W. pretends in his said Postscript to be the Reasons of a New Examination of the Grounds of Religion and his leaving them is most Horrid and Wickedly False a very Hellish Device to Bespatter the Truth and Professers thereof to gratifie the Avowed Enemies thereof to Deceive and Beguile his Unwary Reader and to his hide great Uncleanness by which he Fell. Oh False and greatly Hardened Man The Lord sees his Deceit and Abominable Wickedness and will Reward accordingly except speedy Repentance prevent Is it not a Dreadful thing to see Men so to make Shipwrack of Faith and good Conscience as H. W. has done in so positive a Contradiction of what in the Year 74. when the Hand of the Lord was upon him for his Sins in Judgment he so Faithfully and in so Solemn Words then declared as in the presence of the Living God was the Cause of their falling from the Quakers as aforesaid So that H. W. has Contradicted the False Charges of H. W. against the Quakers under his own Hand the Quakers are still what they were not changed in Unity and Concord of one Heart and Spirit their Judgment and Doctrine Faith and way of Worship acceptable to God And the ground of the Sorrow and Anguish he tells of are his Sins under which Sorrow it had been well for him if he had kept if it was Godly till it had wrought true Repentance Who would then have had no need of such sordid Shifts and deceitful Covers But alas the Quakers way was too strait for him the Quakers Judgment too close upon him for his notorious vileness their Religion such as would not admit of his abominable uncleanness So fleshly minded Man must have a broader way where some soft Pillows must be put under to lean upon a Religion in which there 's more liberty to the Flesh and yet be counted a Saint one of the very Elect so from the Quakers to them he went and let him consider Jer. 2.24 25. And if they be better for him or have got Credit by receiving of him they may hold him for the Quakers can well spare him till he be a cleaner Man and hates Lying and every evil Way The next Remark is his Endeavours to fasten what he calls the Tragedy upon the Quakers in general or at least upon a great Party of them As in Page 6. viz. Now these Women meaning his now Wifes two Sisters and M. B. before named mightily bestirred themselves and had quickly got a great Party of Friends inclining to their Opinion so far as to declare them true Prophetesses as J. S. of How a great Speaker in Meetings c. Again in Page 12. That many other Quakers especially their Husbands were intoxicated c. And in Page 18. With the Assistance of and Approbation of many other Quakers c. And in Page 21. This did much displease the Quakers c. Again in Page 22. They meaning the Quakers began to envy me and their Love was turned into Malice which eats like a Canker from which at last broke out the aforesaid Tragedy If this was not the thing that so incensed them against me I know not what