who to hide his own Deceit laboureth to represent an innocent Act as if it were deceit And so much in answer to his Falshoods and Misrepresentations contained in his Preface XIV page 1. In the beginning of his Book he telleth a great Falshood viz. That the publishing the Breach made in Pensilvania seems designed to gratifie the Adversaries of Truth For the design of its publishing was only to bear our faithful Testimony against the vile Anti-christian Errors boldly maintained by some there and cloaked by others and in Vindication of our Innocency which they of the other side had laboured to defame XV. page 2. He most falsly and injuriously chargeth me with a slight of the Spirits Teachings For I greatly honour and value the Spirits Teachings but the false and vain Pretensions of ignorant Persons to the Spirits Teachings I disown and witness against as the true Prophets did witness against the false Pretences of the false Prophets who said thus saith the Lord when the Lord had not spoke unto them XVI page 2. He falsly chargeth me That my charge against some Preachers in Pensilvania is couched in bare generals But in Contradiction to himself within a few Lines he acknowledgeth the Particulars wherewith I did charge them viz. That T. Fitswater had accused me For denying the Sufficiency of the Light because I said as was alledged by the four Evidences That the Light within was not sufficient without something else Now if this be matter of just Accusation against me it must to them be a false Assertion and the contradictory Assertion must be true viz. That the Light within is sufficient to Salvation without any thing else which most evidently excludes the Person of Christ viz. His Manhood Death and Sufferings and shedding of his precious Blood and Intercession for us in Heaven all which are something else than the Light within But whereas he saith may it not seem strange that I who had been among them Twenty Eight Years and most of the Time a Preacher and a Vindicator of them should not discover this viz. That some among them were guilty of vile Errors But to this it is easily answered I had but a very few Years or rather Months been among them in Pensilvania when I had discovered some among them guilty of vile Errors and laboured much among them in love to recover them which was not without Success to some though others were hardened And for the Time I was among the People called Quakers before I came into America mostly in Scotland my Native Country and sometimes in England and elsewhere it is well known to some now alive in this City that many years ago I had discovered some here in England guilty of some gross Errors such as of late I had discovered in Pensilvania and had also complained of them and diverse Meetings were had where my Complaint was heard and these Meetings giving due and impartial Judgment in the Case and standing up for the Truth and putting to silence these Men for that time this made things quiet and prevented a breach and had these to whom I complained in Pensilvania done the like Justice there they might have prevented the breach that happened therefore the guilt of it lyeth at their door and especially upon S. J. who has been a principal Defender and Upholder of the Persons guilty of those vile Errors But what if I did not discover the Errorâ— that I find too many guilty of now both in America and here also in Europe not having had the opportunity of intitimate Communication with them by verbal Conference perhaps not one of a hundred nor having read very many of Friends Books in those former days But since our Differences began in America this hath given me 〈◊〉 occasion both of verbal Conference with many and also of more frequent reading in Friends Books than formerly and upon the whole I can say I find the whole Doctrine asserted by me in all particulars well confirmed out of Friends Books even in those things wherein I have been contradicted by some both in America and here in England and am able to prove all the parts of Doctrine asserted by me out of the Holy Scripture and Friends Books though I must needs also acknowledge that by some others it is contradicted in some other Books for which cause I did judge and I still so do that diverse Books among us need Correction in diverse Places because they both contradict the Holy Scriptures in some Places and also they contradict the Books and printed Testimonies of other Friends and these palpable Contradictions have done and will do great hurt until corrected both to weak Friends and other friendly People tending to darken some and stumble others XVII page 2. His false Prophesie or Presumption concerning me which he saith he believes a very little time will try or discover as also his false Insinuation against me That I am not real in my professing my being in dear Vnity with all faithful Friends or that any thing of my Deportment hath discovered the contrary For I have differed with none here or elsewhere but so far as they have differed from Truth and if I remain in Unity with the Truth as I do and he nor any else cannot prove the contrary I remain in Unity with all the faithful Friends of it Nor do I judge that every small difference in Judgment doth break the Unity of faithful Friends when Sincerity and the Love of the Truth is kept to in the main XVIII page 3. His falsely asserting the sufficiency of W. Stockdales Evidence against me who was notoriously known to be a prejudiced Person by his falsly accusing me Of being guilty of Preaching two Christs which Sam. Jennings hath been forced to confess was proved against him and accordingly gave at last a Judgment against him though it was as an Abortive out of due Season XIX His perverting my words saying Divers present cleared him viz. G. K. that they heard him both then and at all occasions that he delivered his Mind on that Subject always bear his Testimony to the sufficiency of the Light to Salvation But this he makes so great a difficulty or impossibility viz. to prove a Negative most perversely arguing or rather quiâ—ling How could they hear him at all times when he delivered his Mind on that Subject But my words do plainly enough bare this sense That they heard me at all such times when W. Stockdale heard me to wit either in publick Meetings where some of them were always present at Philadelphia or at that Meeting at the House of S. Carp where and when he did falsâ—ly so accuse me And if a Negative Evidence be to S. J. such a difficulty or impossibility How is it that he is put to bring a negative Evidence to prove he was not drunk in East Jersey See page 69. May it not be replyed to him Was that Person always with him and had such a perfect knowledge
A FURTHER DISCOVERY Of the SPIRIT of Falshood Persecution IN Sam. Jennings And his Party that joyned with him in Pensilvania and some Abettors that cloak and defend him here in England In Answer to his scandalous Book called The State of the Case IN Order to this further Discovery I think fit to follow this Method First to set down in order the grossest Falshoods and Untruths I find in his Book and for which he giveth no other Proof but his and their bare Affirmation who are his Confederates which ought to be of no Authority or Credit with them who know him and them to be our prejudiced Adversaries in the Case and whom I can and doubt not to prove both him and them guilty of affirming diverse gross falshoods in this following Treatise and for brevity sake to give little other Answer to many of the whole Summ Number or Tale of them but this That they are gross downright Falshoods Fictions and Forgeries of his and their devising hatch'd and invented by him and them whereby as with so many Fig-leaves to cover his and their Nakedness And as I go along to answer particularly to his seeming Reasons so far as they may seem to weak and unwary Readers to be some sort of covering to him and his Party and his particular Charges against me so far as they seem to contain any thing of Truth in them in matter of Fact briefly to reply unto For the first some of the grossest downright Falshoods and Untruths Fictions and Forgeries asserted by him are these in order following I. That he saith in his Title page The state of the Case impartially given c. he had said more truly The state of the Case partially falsly and perversly given c. II. That some few have been seduced by me into a separation c. but on the contrary I have not seduced any but have been made an Instrument of God for which I desire to praise him to preserve many and to recover some from being deceived III. That we are backsliders and have reproached and abused him This is his own Character and not ours IV. That he might have made his Innocency his Sanctuary But instead of that he maketh Falshoods and Fictions his Sanctuary V. That I said to him That it was not for any love I had to him that I had sought his Friendship c. This I solemnly declare is utterly false and I acknowledge I did love him and still love him as I ought to love my Enemies but the bond of brotherly love he himself broke it and not I. VI. That I flatter to gain him to my Party This is false VII That I consult the old Proverb Throw Dirt enough and some will stick This most truly belongs to himself VIII That it's matter of Malice and not Conscience that hath occasioned me to appear against him But my appearing against him was only in my just defence and what I have said or Printed against him respecting some former Passages of his Life before he appeared an unjust Adversary against me were such as I had not the full knowledge and certainty of them before and beside they were of that natâ—â—e or quality that had it not been for his intolerable Pride and Arrogancy as well as Injustice in charging me â—hen Innocent of what he was most guilty himself they might have been buried even with them that knew him to be guilty more than I did and it might have been hoped that he had repented of such things but he proceeding to shew himself worse then formerly not amending but more degenerating might give just occasion in our just defence to let him know what sort of Captain these twenty seven false Judges had chosen to follow in that unjust War they had undertaken His Argumentum ad hominem sheweth him as ignorant in fair Reasoning as he knoweth himself to be in the Latin Tongue which yet he would make some shew of as if he skilled it for his transferring my Complaint against Arthur Cook citing Reasons and Causes of the Separation page 18. to his Complaint against me is not paraâ—lel nor equal But so heedless he is in what he writes as in what he saith that he miscites the Book for that Complaint of mine against Arthur Cook is not in Reasons and Causes c. but in the Plea of the Innocent that was in Answer to his and his Brethrens Paper of false Judgment against me for my Complaint against A. C. was That he transgrest Gospel Order in concealing a matter so many years and then bringing it forth against me while I was in the same Profession of Church Membership with them when he so accused me and the matter it self was also false But what I blamed Sam. Jennings for with respect to some years past was only in way of my just defence and was most properly Argumentum ad hominem it being most unreasonable in him to require an absolute Submission from me in the greatest matters of Faith and Conscience when he refused to submit in some worldly matters and I made not this Complaint against him in my just defence until by his and his Parties false Judgment given out against me We were no more of one Society and it stands well consistent with Scripture That if a Man depart from his Righteousness not only his former Righteousness is to be forgotten but his former Vnrighteousness may be justly remembred against him IX That the noise we make of Persecution he doubts not but the Reader will find by what follows is a sham and abuse put upon the World And I refer it to the Impartial Reader whether this his Book be not a sham put upon the World and whether the Sufferings we did undergo for matters purely of Conscience were not really Persecution as much as what many Friends have suffered here in England in former times That he saith page 3. of his Preface How can any thing deserve to be called a Suffering or Persecution that is so much desired and sought for sheweth him extreamly ignorant what true Suffering is and that he is better acquainted with the Spirit of Persecution than with the Spirit of Suffering and also that he is little conversant either in Scripture or Church History for Christ the Prophets Apostles and Martyrs not only desired to suffer for Righteousness sake knowing the Blessedness that belonged to that State but rejoyced at their Suffering not simply for the Suffering but that God might be honoured and the Truth advanced nor did they desire Suffering in any evil will towards Persecutors but prayed for them as so I have done and have them for my Example X. That my and our greatest Suffering from the Government was That we could not provoke them to do more against us This is utterly false we neither gave them just Provocation nor desired to provoke them XI That our Crimes were so gross and enormous as no other Government would have been guilty of
of him that he was not drunk or at least elevated with Drink seeing sâ—me have asserted that he was and one being â—uled by Affection â—ay judge a Man not to be drunk when another Man may judge and perhaps more duely that he is But whether he was or was not drunk as I did not accuse him so it is not my present business to prove or disprove it only I thought fit to take notice how partial S. J. is to reject these divers Evidences on my side that proved a Negative and yet defend himself by one Person that proved a Negative on his side XX. page 3. His Perversion and perversly quibling against the Monthly Meeting that gave Judgment against T. Fish As first That some had been there that were not in the Profession of Truth a thing he saith not usual in solemn Monthly Meetings But this quibble is easily answered The Report spread abroad concerning our Differences occasioned divers to come even to other Monthly Meetings as well as that yea and to their Yearly Meeting too that were not in the Profession of Truth And it can be proved that some have signed to some false Judgments given out against me that were not in the Profession of Truth But however S. J. doth take notice that these that were not in the Profession of Truth were said to have gone away before any Judgment was given Another silly quibble of his is That most of them that gave that Judgment at the adjourned Monthly Meeting were such as afterwards went into the Separation with G. K. page 4. But here he only begs the question without all shadow of Proof that they or I either went into the Separation for on the contrary I have sufficiently proved it both in my former Books and also in my last Book in Answer to T. E. his scandalous Defamation That they of the other side began the Separation and are guilty of continuing it XXI page 4. He most palpably perverteth the matter when he saith I make a mischievous use of the Evidence given by them called the four credible Witnesses and strain consequences from it he alledging It was not the thing in question Whether the Light was sufficient without something else but whether G. K. had said so or not which was proved he had But take notice Reader of this Mans gross Forgery and Prevarication enough to discredit his whole Book and all his other audacious false Affirmations the thing in question was Whether G. K. was guilty of denying the Sufficiency of the Light within to Salvation Th. Fishwater having accused him of such a Crime or Error as is confessed by the Judgment of that Monthly Meeting that took the Evidences of that four Persons which they took most disorderly G. K. being absent and having no call nor notice given him to be present and to prove his charge against G. K. he brings four Witnesses to prove that they heard me say The Light was not sufficient to Salvation without something else this the said Meeting takes for a sufficient Evidence to clear T. F. and therefore without the least strain according to them G. K. is guilty of a great Error for saving The Light within is not sufficient to Salvation without something else But seeing by their Judgment this is an Error the contradictory Assertion to it must needâ— be true viz. That the Light within is sufficient to Salvation without any thing else which excludes the 〈…〉 Christ his Death and Sufferings Blood and Intercession for as in Heaven all which are something else than the Light within as all Men of common sense must needs confess That the outward Body or Person of the Man Christ and his Death Blood and Intercession without us are not the Light in us and therefore something else though Christ is but one both without us and within us even as the Godhead and Manhood of Christ is but one Christ and yet his Manhood is not his Godhead but something else for his Godhead did not suffer Death but his Manhood XXII page 4 5. His palpable Perversion and bewraying his gross Ignonorance or Deceit in charging me with Inconsistency for saying The Light is sufficient to Salvation and yet to affirm it is not sufficient without something else as if these two Assertions were inconsistent or contradictory Whereas the least ordinary Christian of the smallest Capacity cannot but see both the Consistency and Truth of these two sound Assertions as much as when I say my Hand is sufficient to write or â—old a Book but not without my Body which is something else and my Eye is sufficient to see but not without my Head and a thousand such Examples may be given And the Grace of Christ is sufficient to save me but not without the Man Christ nor is Christ sufficient without the Father for he said himself I can do nothing of my self but together with the Father he is our All-sufficient Saviour And who will dare to say but the Man Christ without us that was born of the Virgin is sufficient to save us yet not without his inward appearance in our Hearts it pitties me to deal with such an ignorant Adversary Oh! for shame that ever such an ignorant Person should pass with any for a Minister of Christ that seeth not or is so deceitful that he will not acknowledge that he seeth such a thing as the good Consistency betwixt these two Assertions aforesaid XXIII His gross Perversion in charging my Words I spoke at the Yearly Meeting and which were too mincingly and unduly repeated in that Paper called A true Account of the Proceedings of the Yearly Meeting at London c. As if they did infer the same Consequence against my self the substance of my words being viz. That the Light within being God the Word the Spirit in every Man is sufficient to reveal to every Man all that is needful to his Eternal Salvation But let the Reader of the least true Capacity judge whether these words can admit of any such Consequence That the Light within us is sufficient to Salvation without any thing else seeing as is above shewed these two Assertions are well consisting and Sam. Jennings knoweth in his Conscience that I spoke the words more fully than he hath related them viz. by adding yet not excluding the Man Christ Jesus his Death Sufferings c. and Intercession c. from being joyntly concern'd in our Salvation as also my saying That the Faith of Christ as he died for us c. is necessary to our Christianity and Salvation But further to manifest the great Ignorance or rather Deceit of S. J. in this particular he intimating it was not the thing in question Whether the Light is not sufficient to Salvation without something else G. K. meaning by that something else The Manhood of Christ his Death and Sufferings and Intercession He knoweth in his Conscience that some time after John Delawal accused me in a publick Meeting of being
particular he knoweth in his consience how Tho. Lloid hath defended and justified John Hemphrey from time to time in his Antichristian assertion that he was grieved to hear some say they expected to be justified by that blood that was shed at Jerusalem which most evidently proveth that neither J. Hâ—â—er Tho. Lloid did believe it was necessary for them to have that faith that we are Justified by that blood Yea S. Jennings his charging me with an inconsistency in my two Assertions the one being that the light within is sufficient to salvation the other being that the light within is not sufficient to salvation without something else I having always declared that by that something else I mean the Man Christ Jesus and his Death and Sufferings Blood Resurrection and Intercession c. doth sufficiently prove him guilty that he doth not believe it necessary to his salvation that Christ died for him for if the light within be sufficient to salvation without the Death of Christ â—hich is a part of that something else understood by me then it is not necessary to our salvation to believe that Christ died for us and the Death of Christ hath no part or share in our salvation by this his Antichristian assertion But now in reference to the question as stated by him he alledging that I have affirmed that this faith is indispensibly necessary to all viz. in order to eternal salvation to believe in Christ as he died for us and rose again I freely own it that I have so Affirmed and do still so affirm but however that was neither the only nor the principal question or matter of Debate betwixt Th. Lloid and me but a second branch of the question occasionally happening that at sometimes was also discoursed betwixt us But as concerning the indispensible necessity of Faith in Christ as he died for us and rose again as universally necessary to salvation how and in what sense I have affirmed I have fully explained in divers of my late printed books relating to our late differences where I have distinguished betwixt the express or explicite knowledg and faith of Christ's Death in order to eternal salvation and the implicite knowledge and faith of it asserting this last but not the first as universally and indispensibly necessary And in this my Christian Testimony as I agree with the Holy Scriptures and all my former books notwithstanding of the Insinuations of some ignorant prejudiced persons against me so with the Printed Books and Testimonies of divers friends of good Repute among the people called Quakers and with the General Doctrine of all moderate Christian VVriters throughout Christendom See my aforesaid Explication of my Assertion particularly in my Two late Printed Treatises the one called Truth and Innocency defended from page 10. to page 20. where I largely open the said distinction of faith in Christ explicit and implicit and also my other called Heresie and Hatred page 13. As for what he objecteth concerning the strange Notion of the Revolution of humane souls and his insinuation of my countenancing it having so fully answered to it in the Two aforementioned Treatises in Print to which I refer I need say nothing here further than to tell him and also to inform the Reader that his thinking or insinuation that my holding the faith of Christ's Death indispensibly necessary to all that shall be saved doth oblige me to held that all to whom that faith is not outwardly preached or who have not the outward means or outward opportunity of receiving it must needs live again by Revolution in order to have it preached unto them otherwise they cannot be saved doth sufficiently prove him extreamly ignorant and that he hath neither the true faith nor a true Notion of the sufficiency of the Light within And howbeit he laboureth in his Prejudice and Enmity to represent me as one undervaluing the sufficiency of the Light within it plainly appeareth Ioâ—n the sufficiency of the Light within more than he doth or any of his Party who thus do falsly accuse me for I say as I have oft formerly said the Light within in the highest sense being God and Christ the Eternal Word and the Spirit in every man is sufficient to reveal and give the Knowledge and Faith of Christ as he died for all men and rose again unto all men without all outward means of outward Preaching or Reading and consequently without the Revolutions of Humane Souls for even Such who favour the Revolution of Humane Souls as a probable Hypothesis do it not upon that supposition as if the Light within were insufficient to give the Knowledge and Faith of Christ without as well as within for the sufficiency of the Light within hath not a dependance upon the Revolutions nor upon any outward means of Preaching Hearing or Reading Insomuch therefore that Sam. Jennings doth suppose that to affirm the Faith of Christ's Death to be indispensibly necessary to salvation to all that shall be eternally saved is to infer the necessity of the Revolution of Humane Souls And also that he doth positively affirm that many have not the means opportunity or capacity to know or receive it which he saith will include a great part of Mankind From this it plainly followeth that he thinketh the Light within is not sufficient or able to reveal or give that Knowledge or Faith of Christ's Death which I affirm it is being God the Word and the Spirit and therefore I have a better belief of the sufficiency of the Light within than he hath or his Party that is joyned with him against my Christian Testimony and to say the Light within is not sufficient as fully to reveal and give the Knowledge and Faith of Christ's Death without as of his Life within is a degree of Blasphemy against God who is that Light within and soundeth as harsh and offensive to Christian Ears as to say God is not sufficient to reveal or give to all men the Knowledge and Faith of Christ's Death by Internal Revelation without all outward means of Instruction which yet I think no sound Christian will dare to affirm But as I have oft said it is one thing what God who is Light and is in all men is sufficient or able to do who is able of stones to raise up children to Abraham and who can work by his Spirit when where how and in whom he pleaseth even without outward means whether in Infants or deaf and dumb persons or in them that never heard the Fame of Christ with their outward Ears and it is another thing what he is pleased to do in his ordinary way of working But it ought well to be considered that our full and perfect salvation depends not wholly upon what God either can or pleaseth to reveal in us but also in great part upon what the Man Christ hath done and suffered for us on Earth especially in dying and shedding his precions Blood for us and his interced on